if i S-off and root and install a Rom will i still be able to get OTA and will taking the OTA brick my phone or Put it back to S-on and Stock
or should i S-On then take the new 4.2 or 4.3 ota when it comes
isu8023 said:
if i S-off and root and install a Rom will i still be able to get OTA and will taking the OTA brick my phone or Put it back to S-on and Stock
or should i S-On then take the new 4.2 or 4.3 ota when it comes
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No, you cannot get an OTA while on a custom ROM, therefore, it cannot brick your device. And the only way to get back to s-on is to intentionally give the command to do so. Cannot be done by an OTA. If you get s-off and want to take an update, you will need to be totally stock to do so. However, you DO NOT need to go back to s-on.
From my S-Off BadSeed DNA
Stock only
OTA updates are for STOCK only, and do not affect the S-OFF/S-ON of your phone.
I hear an echo.
From my S-Off BadSeed DNA
If you THINK you might want root and/or s-off, you should definitely do it BEFORE the update. Updates tend to block currently known rooting/s-off methods.
If you do root/s-off, then the update will not affect your device. You COULD choose to go s-on and take the update at any future point.
Most people that have rooted and have s-off will NOT take want the update, instead we will wait for one of the dev's to grab the update and adapt it to be used on a rooted / s-off device. Generally, in less than 1 day of VZW pushing the update, there will be a base rom available for s-off users to install that is basically the OEM update with a few minor variations (root added etc). Within 2-3 days, there will be more custom roms available that are based on the update. (Most the of popular roms that are being used right now are actually based on the HTC One update that was already released.)
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I'm unlocked but not s-off.
stock HTC Sense build that came with phone
Android 4.0.3
Sense 4.0
Software version 1.13.651.1
HTC SDK 4.2
So I've searched all over and its so scattered i don't know what to make of it.
If i take ota update what happens given my above specs? Lose root? Perm loss of s-off but can still root?
If it removes root privileges as a result or whatever, is there a method to get root back after the ota so i can wifi tether, etc?
If i don't take ota update is there a hacked zip package available i can run in recovery to get it up to date without causing ill effects?
And most importantly, going to a newer hboot and 4.0.4, does the end justify the means? Is there must haves in it that far out weigh the encumbrance of the process?
I know the easiest thing is go custom ROM, but I'm not looking to reinstall everything so that's why I'm hoping i can just ota or equivalent.
Thanks for any help!
Things are less of a hassle if you s-off your phone. I suggest you do that and then you can flash away. Never take an ota, not worth the risk.
metalfan78 said:
Things are less of a hassle if you s-off your phone. I suggest you do that and then you can flash away. Never take an ota, not worth the risk.
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^^^^^^ Agreed never take an OTA and go S-OFF while you still can alot of guys would kill to have your phone and have the ability to get S-OFF
Here's the stuff you gotta do to update firmware if you don't get s-off
Relock hboot and run ruu
Unlock hboot
Reflash recovery
Reflash superuser and busybox or custom rom
Or
Restore stock rom and recovery
Relock bootloader
Accept ota
Unlock hboot
Reflash recovery
Reflash superuser and busybox or custom rom
Do yourself a favor and get s-off
I made the mistake of thinking I would stay stock and not unlock my phone since I got the LTE. I should have know I would be right back to XDA devs. I did the OTA and now have to deal with not getting s-off fast booting my new kernals
s-off does sound the way to go and was my next step. You completely convinced me what direction I need to go.
Thanks for the replies so far!
Hello all,
A while back, I rooted my friends Evo 4G LTE. That obviously involved unlocking the phone, flashing TWRP, then flashing the RegawRooter zip. I did not go through the process to get S-OFF, as he had no interest in running a custom rom. His rom build is 3.15.651.16. Shortly afterwards, the update to 3.16.651.3 came out. After searching the forums and elsewhere, I can't seem to find a definitive answer as to whether or not if it is safe to update to 3.16.651.3.
If I update, will it brick the phone?
If I update, will I have to re-unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP again, and re-root?
Again, we don't really care about getting S-OFF, so if this update contains an HBOOT that isn't downgradable, we don't really care.
If you have any insight as to what I have to do, I'd appreciate it. It was extremely frustrating to get to this point compared to my Optimus G, and if possible, I'd love to not have to go through the whole unlocking and flashing all over again.
You should not brick his phone by doing the OTA. You will have to relock the bootloader and flash a stock recovery before you can do the OTA.
Yes you will have to unlock and flash twrp again
I would highly suggest going the S-OFF route it will save a lot of headaches down the road. HTC is making it harder with every OTA to do anything to our phones.With S-OFF you can at least stay current with the firmware/radios without flashing any custom roms. That will all be done manually thanks to Captain_Throwback picking through the OTA's and removing the stuff we don't want. But you have to be S-OFF to utilize that method.
FacePalm in the Original Development takes about 5 minutes to complete and is super easy but will not work on the newest OTA 3.16
Any questions feel free to PM me
First of all, I'm not the most tech savvy person out there but have been able to do some stuff with my phone. Using the Hasoon all in one kit verson 2.1 I was able to root and unlock my phone a couple of months ago. It somehow received the 3.12.605.13 710rd update and is now not rooted. I only wanted root to have wifi tether but that's not important to me
When I start phone in recovery it says (the caps may not be right)
Tampered
unlocked
Vigor PVT Ship S-on RL
HBoot 2.25.0000
Radio 1.22.10.0421r/1.22.10.0424r
Open DSP V13.6.0.7611.00.0104
eMMC-boot
The phones been trying to get the OTA for weeks now on is driving me nuts because my phone is my alarm clock and the pushes always happen overnight and locks up the phone.
What do I need to do (in simple terms, will lots of help please) to get the OTA and get the phone running normally again?
Thanks in advance
You need to have stock recovery. And possibly be on a stock ROM. If you are stock you can flash the stock recovery and take the OTA.
Or, there is a ROM of the latest OTA and stock if you want to just flash that you should be set:
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40949419&postcount=11
Looks like it doesn't like TWRP recovery.
You won't get the latest firmware with that though, if you care. If you want the latest then go with flashing stock recovery and taking the OTA. Also, it seems that dev made another ROM based on this with some mods, you might want to find that and see if you'd rather use that one.
Alternatively, I believe you can also run the global leak RUU then take the OTA but I'm not positive. You can find that here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ull-ruu-build-4-03-605-2-for-the-htc-rezound/
If you take the OTA I would make a nandroid as soon as you put a custom recovery on it since atm there's no RUU of it released. It'll make it easy to go back if you need to.
My device is stock, unrooted, S-On, AT&T. I want to get the new software pieces from the OTA update without taking the actual OTA itself because I do not want to update HBoot in case I decide to do S-Off again in the future. Is there a file or set of files I can install from the outside? Or can I flash just the new radio, or even get the phone to quit bugging me about the update?
My HBoot is 1.44, May 2013. My roommate has the same setup but he took the OTA and now his HBoot is 1.44, June 2013 and revone doesn't work on that version.
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My device is stock, unrooted, S-On, AT&T. I want to get the new software pieces from the OTA update without taking the actual OTA itself because I do not want to update HBoot in case I decide to do S-Off again in the future. Is there a file or set of files I can install from the outside? Or can I flash just the new radio, or even get the phone to quit bugging me about the update?
My HBoot is 1.44, May 2013. My roommate has the same setup but he took the OTA and now his HBoot is 1.44, June 2013 and revone doesn't work on that version.
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Just flash the stock 1.26.502.15 ROM from this thread. It doesn't contain any firmware files so your firmware will remain untouched.
K.AuthoR said:
My device is stock, unrooted, S-On, AT&T. I want to get the new software pieces from the OTA update without taking the actual OTA itself because I do not want to update HBoot in case I decide to do S-Off again in the future. Is there a file or set of files I can install from the outside? Or can I flash just the new radio, or even get the phone to quit bugging me about the update?
My HBoot is 1.44, May 2013. My roommate has the same setup but he took the OTA and now his HBoot is 1.44, June 2013 and revone doesn't work on that version.
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I wouldn't wait to s-off if I were you. That update will end up running when you least expect it and then you're done.
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I wouldn't wait to s-off if I were you. That update will end up running when you least expect it and then you're done.
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I might as well.
My concern is, if I S-Off, can I then accept the OTA? Or how could I go about updating everything EXCEPT for HBoot?
K.AuthoR said:
I might as well.
My concern is, if I S-Off, can I then accept the OTA? Or how could I go about updating everything EXCEPT for HBoot?
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S-Off doesn't affect OTA's. You just need stock recovery to accept them. But if that update installs to your phone, there's no telling when S-Off may be available. Once you're S-Off, you can flash anything and you'll remain S-Off.
jdk2 said:
S-Off doesn't affect OTA's. You just need stock recovery to accept them. But if that update installs to your phone, there's no telling when S-Off may be available. Once you're S-Off, you can flash anything and you'll remain S-Off.
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Gotcha, excellent!
(first HTC Android device after coming from nothing but Nexus devices, so HTC's setup is totally foreign to me)
I just went ahead with the S-Off. Am I good to accept this OTA or will this override HBoot / return me to S-On? Or what if it runs while I'm asleep one night, would that screw me?
K.AuthoR said:
Gotcha, excellent!
(first HTC Android device after coming from nothing but Nexus devices, so HTC's setup is totally foreign to me)
I just went ahead with the S-Off. Am I good to accept this OTA or will this override HBoot / return me to S-On? Or what if it runs while I'm asleep one night, would that screw me?
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Once you're S-Off, you remain S-Off until you change it. Accepting OTA at this point won't change that.
You can also manually update firmware and ROM.
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ilal2ielli said:
Once you're S-Off, you remain S-Off until you change it. Accepting OTA at this point won't change that.
You can also manually update firmware and ROM.
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Question, I understand the need for stock recovery to attain the OTA. I'm already s-off and Super CID and the like. What I'd like to know is the best method for flashing just the stock recovery to receive the OTA. Also, would having the device rooted, with bloatware removed, effect the device in any way, during installation of the OTA, or after?
Or on the other hand, would it just be best to manual flash the rom from here? I'd like to pretty much attain the all of the aspects of the rom, including firmware, radio etc. I'm wary of changing the H-Boot, even though i'm already s-off. I'd hate to fall into a situation later where I need to go s-on, then turn around and want to do s-off again, but can't, because of the h-boot change. I am trying to read up on everything as best as i can, but some of it is quite confusing, and i don't keep up with the forums like I used to. So I'd totally apprecate a little clarification. thanks.
Hey,
Doing some work on a friends device. He brought it in said that he bought the device a while ago and it was custom and wanted to simply return to stock so he could update to the newest firmware. Normally I can search and find the answers I need but Im stumped at the moment.
So when he brought it to me, the system was in this state:
Bootloader - UNLOCKED
S-ON
HBOOT - 1.44
Recovery - CWM
ROM - CleanRom1.0
Android Version 4.2
So I figured I would relock the bootloader and run an RUU to bring him back to stock. I used "RUU_M7_UL_JB_50_Cingular" to bring him back to stock. It actually brought the device back to 4.1.2 which is what I believe it was on when it was rooted and customized in the first place. Anyhow, I popped my ATT card in there and hit software update and it downloaded it, restarted, and when it came back up, its still on 4.1.2?? And the software update and ATT software update section both say the device is up to date.
Then I downloaded the latest stock RUU which is - "RUU_M7_UL_K44_SENSE55_MR_Cingular_US_4.18.502.7_R10_Radio_4T.24.3218.09_10.26.1718.01L_release_356565_signed_2"
Ran that and it tells gives me and error saying that I should download the correct image file.
So my question to you is, do I need to unlock the bootloader again and gain S-OFF to run this RUU properly? I was under the impression that once the device was back to stock, I could update it again. My goal here is to get this phone on KitKat for him.
Current System State -
Bootloader - RELOCKED
S-ON
HBOOT - 1.44
Recovery - STOCK? Just get a phone with a red triangle with an ! in the middle.
ROM - Stock
Android Version - 4.1.2
Thanks in advance.
I would recommend trying to S-OFF the device first, before updating anything. The current S-OFF tools may not work after the latest updates. Try Firewater w/ the temproot method first. Once you get S-OFF you have more options to update.
I've seen a few posts lately where the latest AT&T 4.4 RUU isn't working for some people (see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723785). I'm planning on trying it this weekend. If it doesn't work for me, my plan is to run the 4.3 RUU from here then install the OTA, either through "Software Updates" on the phone or install it manually.
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I would recommend trying to S-OFF the device first, before updating anything. The current S-OFF tools may not work after the latest updates. Try Firewater w/ the temproot method first. Once you get S-OFF you have more options to update.
I've seen a few posts lately where the latest AT&T 4.4 RUU isn't working for some people (see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723785). I'm planning on trying it this weekend. If it doesn't work for me, my plan is to run the 4.3 RUU from here then install the OTA, either through "Software Updates" on the phone or install it manually.
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Yeah, I just downloaded the 4.3 update to give that a try...
My HBOOT version is 1.44 so technically, gaining S-OFF should be really easy with the HTC One Toolkit no?
digisolnc said:
Yeah, I just downloaded the 4.3 update to give that a try...
My HBOOT version is 1.44 so technically, gaining S-OFF should be really easy with the HTC One Toolkit no?
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I would think so. I never looked at HTC One Toolkit, though so don't know what it's all about. When I was researching S-OFF, Rumrunner then Firewater were the goto tools to S-OFF. Personally, I prefer not to use toolkits. Just rather figure out the commands to run myself. But if they work for you, go for it.
digisolnc said:
Yeah, I just downloaded the 4.3 update to give that a try...
My HBOOT version is 1.44 so technically, gaining S-OFF should be really easy with the HTC One Toolkit no?
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I was able to gain S-OFF using revone with the 1.44 version of HBOOT. Detailed instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2497712
sharksfan7 said:
I would think so. I never looked at HTC One Toolkit, though so don't know what it's all about. When I was researching S-OFF, Rumrunner then Firewater were the goto tools to S-OFF. Personally, I prefer not to use toolkits. Just rather figure out the commands to run myself. But if they work for you, go for it.
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the android 4.3 ruu followed by the OTA update is the easy way to AT&T 4.4.2
http://dl3.htc.com/application/RUU_...13_10.38j.1157.04_release_334235_signed_2.exe
and the OTA is here if you want to flash it manually
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407573841