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Only now, after joining this forum and having learnt how to get the most out of the I9000's sonic capabilities (with Voodoo Sound), do I realise what an amazing audio device this handset is.
Last night I compared an uncompressed mp3 - played through my SGS1 - with the same track from the original CD played through a £500 Maranz CD player (CD-63 Mk2 KI Signiture). The set up they were tested with, while not new and not top range, is solid: Technics SUA-900 Mk3 Amp, B&W 602 speakers, bi-wired with Cable Talk 3 speaker cable, connected with Audioquest Turquoise.
I was amazed at how close the sound was to the benchmark - and so was my future son in law, the owner of a recording studio.
While I lack the golden ears of a true audiophile (a £10,000 set up sounds as good as a £30,000 one, to me) I think I am quite a discerning listener and music lover. Because of this the two things any mobile phone must do, for me, is be a serviceable phone and radio and a good mp3 player. For this reason I will not be buying the SGS2. It may be superior in every other way but the fact that its audio capabilities are inferior, means I will be sticking with the SGS1 - and making a bit of noise about this fact.
Who feels the same?
I totally agree I think supercurio did an amazing job!
Guys post your opinions on the audio quality of the device and if possible also a comparison with your previous phones.
Thanks.
Already quite heavily discussed...
Disappointed. Don't like the headset at all. got replacement and it's fine and waiting for the smart headset to come out.well hopefully it'll be the best, I love listen to music and this time I'm really disappointed with Sony for sure. (Sad Face)
Why disappointed? Everyone knows that standard headsets are bad.
Use your own, be happy.
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Disappointed. Don't like the headset at all. got replacement and it's fine and waiting for the smart headset to come out.well hopefully it'll be the best, I love listen to music and this time I'm really disappointed with Sony for sure. (Sad Face)
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Can you expand a little - what exactly are you unhappy about? When you say you 'don't like the headset' - is it the sound quality or the ergonomics/comfort that you don't like? what aspects exactly are bad?
When we assess the audio performance of a phone, there are several separate aspects:
1. Audio output signal quality, i.e. the analog signal coming out of the phone jack. I would argue that this is superb, as can be witnessed by connecting it directly to a quality Hi-Fi system or high-performance headphones.
Has anyone noticed anything different in this respect - like distortion, noise or other defects? I haven't.
2. The audio quality in the main use of the device: as a telephone (unless we have forgotten that it can also make calls). Taken for granted most of the time, this audio quality was disappointing in my previous X10 - but on the X-S is significantly better. Call audio quality (including volume) is on par with the best phones I've used.
3. The sound quality when listening to music 'over the air', i.e. form the phone's built-in speaker. There are limitations how much loudness and/or bass you can extract form a tiny speaker in a tiny box - I hope nobody expects it to sound like a 500 Watt stereo system On speaker, the X-S is on par with the following models found around my household: Xperia X10, SE C905, SE C902, Nokia 5800. Differences are minor and, at this compromise level, not worth analysing. Subjectively, on built-in speaker the X-S sounds to me slightly but certainly better than the X10.
4. Audio quality via the standard headset provided in the pack. NOT (!) any extra /additional headphones - those are subject to your taste (and investment), see (1) above.
The kit headset is a hands-free unit optimised for making calls and not for music consumption. Yes, they certainly can play music (and many models do it decently, depending on the listener's audio culture and expectations) - but they absolutely must not be assessed and criticised as a musical device, they simply are not that.
Anyone who has the ears to hear the difference and values audio quality normally buys dedicated musical headphones. (Or already has them - as technology in them evolves slower than phones and they need less frequent 'updates'. I keep them over the life of 2-3 phones).
When we rely on the headset provided in the box, we voluntarily agree with the limitations - that those are a compromise, designed for making calls and also designed to minimise the cost of the bundle.
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I'd like to think that we all agree with the above logic. Please feel free to prove me wrong (with facts) on any aspect of it. In this light, I would like to hear:
- What aspects of the audio is @chesterr (and others) unhappy about?
- If Sony disappoints, who else doesn't? What are you comparing the X-S with? What is your example of the ideal mobile audio experience (straight out of the box)?
Anyone could recommend a headset at, at max 50 dollars, for listening to music that works on it. Cable at least 1 meter and has to be in-ear.
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Since my kplisch x10i won't work with the Sony @) I have gone back to my trusty denon ach 360's
Very nice warm sound in my opinion even though they are considered an older model.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/accessories/earphones/301807/denon_ahc360_review.html
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Using Soundmagic E10s with mine and have to say I'm impressed - easily on a par with my iPhone 4s for audio quality - sounds pretty neutral to me and more than adequate for a phone imho.
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Can you expand a little - what exactly are you unhappy about?
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Wow man you're promoting Sony or something I thought that I was doing that..
well It's Sony dude they should've done more better than this, I don't blame it but I don't like the headset.Okay If you're telling me to be happy with what I get for the price that I paid for, Okay then.
BTW I'm waiting for their new Smart Headset. and Hopefully it'll be better and yes the call quality is to the maximum comparing to the other devices and they've done a pretty good job with the equaliser and with the xLoud.But I feel like I'm not getting enough Bass. Anyways I hope Smart Headset will be out soon to get
Included earbuds are always crap. If earbuds cost less than €50/$75 they are crap by definition. I've heard the audio output quality of the Xperia S is brilliant and amongst the best of all phones ever made.
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they've done a pretty good job with the equaliser and with the xLoud.But I feel like I'm not getting enough Bass. Anyways I hope Smart Headset will be out soon to get
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Bass is very dependent on the headphones. I just tried on a pair of Sony MDR-EX81 and the bass is thumpin!
Tip: If you really wanna splurge, try the Sony balanced armature series...
I'm really impressed with the audio quality on the xs. I came from a Samsung Galaxy s2 which is a truly awful mp3 player.
The only criticism I can find with the Sony is that the highs and percussion are often more pronounced than vocals, but having said that the highs are very detailed and defined, and a pleasure to listen to!
This is the best performing phone for audio I have owned. That includes the Iphone 3gs...
Hi!
Could anyone compare the sound coming from the backside speaker to the Iphone 4 speaker output (music without headset).
Cause coming from the X10i and comparing to Iphone of my wife, x10i has a miserable sound (small tweeter behind speakerhole at the left side), Iphone4 has a much richer base when playing back music without headset.
Reading that SXS is "on par" with my X10i in that aspect is really not what i hoped to hear ....
Greetings,
Bax
Baxxx said:
Hi!
Reading that SXS is "on par" with my X10i in that aspect is really not what i hoped to hear ....
Greetings,
Bax
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When I compare the built in speaker of my XPS with my old x10 mini pro, the x10 mini pro has a better sound, but with stock hearphones I think XPS is better.
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No, I'm not promoting Sony. Unlike Appleheads, I am not a blind fan - every time I am buying a new device I research all products in the market, from all brands and makers. I have a (rather complex) set of comparison criteria and carefully score all available options. The fact that my last few phones happened to be Sony (Ericsson) is not brand loyalty, they just scored top marks according to my criteria. As a rationally-minded (stupid engineer) I can only compare facts and measurable parameters. 'Cool' factor, fashion trends and media hype are not among my criteria - otherwise I always gave Apple a chance in my shortlists.
Talking of audio, I cannot completely ignore the fact that among all phone makers Sony is the only one that has been making audio equipment for more than half a century, including high-quality HiFi systems and components. That includes a (very) deep vault of patents, but more important - a wealth of experience and expertise that no other phone maker has, and no 'think different' genius can easily replace.
Talking about cameras (sorry about straying off-topic for a moment) - apart from Samsung no other phone maker has any experience in making 'normal' cameras, and even they started much later and excel at the cheaper end. Sony have been making (photo) cameras longer and long before that they were making professional TV cameras used by every major broadcaster in the world. That counts for some (deep) understanding of electronic imaging that no one else has. In fact, Apple respect this and have chosen not to reinvent the steam engine, but have built a Sony camera in their phone. There can hardly be a higher recognition.
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No 'Sony-heads' and blind fans here, just noticing objective facts and using my head, not my 'heart' (or other body parts).
To everyone in this forum (you must already have Sony phones, since you are here?) - and on topic: Enjoy the Sony sound, it's objectively better than others!
Sony actually include the package with livesound in malaysia .
The best bounded earphone i ever have inside phone box for the phone i brought .
Having moved from an iPhone 4 to the Xperia S I would say that the audio quality is ok but nothing special.
Listening through decent headphones (Klipsh Image X10s) the Xperia produces a good sound but I don't think it is as good as the iPhone. It is perfectly serviceable but the iPhone does a lot better in my view, especially with lossless files where you can really hear the difference on the iPhone and on the Xperia it is marginal at best compared to 320Kbps mp3.
I've no complaints about the Xperia and it beats the iPhone in most other respects but I think audio quality is an area where it could be improved.
I guess it comes down to the quality of the DACs used within it. Sony's audio experience may help but it cannot compensate for lower quality audio circuitry at the end of the day.
The output is also noticably louder on the iPhone and the Xperia may struggle to drive some headphones at a decent volume level. Its ok with mine but I find I am using 85% volume on the Xperia to get the same sound level as my iPhone running at around 70%.
Great phone though.
The sound quailty of the phones speaker is good.
The bundled headphones are poor.
The sound output via analogue is okay but not great.
The call quality is very good.
I moved from iphone 4 to xperia arc to samsung s2 to samsung note to xperia s.
Xperia arc's noise level is too high and both samsung s2 and note sounded too soft.
If lack of low frequency is not a concern to you, iphone obvious has a more open and detailed mid-range frequency reproduction (e.g. vocal voices). However, I still prefer XS for the more balanced sound.
output volume from XS is too low... hope it will be fixed by firmware upgrade.
anyway, XS is the best music player among all mobile phones i've ever had.
btw, I am using Shure 425 earphone and 840 headphone.
I don't think xs has good quality of sound indeed, I heard that there is a deficit for android or Qualcomm chips dealing with 48k (or 44.1k sound ). I am not sure about it but the default music player does improve music quality a lot.
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What're some options of headphones with a working mic and controls that work with the Note 3? Not sure if this is standard or not but my Note 3 didn't come with any headphones like my S3 did. Unfortunately I don't have my S3 headphones anymore.
HaVoK C89 said:
What're some options of headphones with a working mic and controls that work with the Note 3? Not sure if this is standard or not but my Note 3 didn't come with any headphones like my S3 did. Unfortunately I don't have my S3 headphones anymore.
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You could buy some Samsung OEM headphones on ebay.
There are better quality headphones with mic out there but most have controls that are meant for the iPhone and not all function will work with Android devices. My Denon headphones work to pause and play but volume buttons don't work.
Theirs the Klipsch S4A that is specifically made for android and even has an app available to customize the button functions, but even so it may not work with all devices. I'm not sure if they work completely with the Note 3.
Personally I'd recommend the some bluetooth headphones as they work great with Bluetooth protocols to control android devices.
Here are a couple of places to start:
Wired (note II forum):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2041669&highlight=headphones
Bluetooth (note 3 forum):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502432
A quick search will also get you many more links and answers.
Sony MH1C - great ****ing sound and build quality, and Sony has an app for the controls.
Head-fi - rated #1
Ebay - I bought them off this guy twice, they used to be $25 but now they're $60 since they've gotten more popular.
They're pretty much the correct answer to your question.
I have tried 9 different pair...the OEM Galaxy S3 headphones rock thee best hands down...
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V-Moda M-100. Durability, Quality, Sound Quality, Design. Pricey.
Is there any available for Galaxy Note 3 from Plantronics...?????
Usually I carry a FiiO amp (I have three different models). I use them with my Note 3 and have various headphones ( Audio Technica ATH M50, V-Moda M100 and V-Moda XS, Beats Solo 2). On full amplification via the FiiO and depending on genre, I like the V-Moda XS and FiiO E18 the best. I would rate it a 9 for clarity and depth on portable device (I'm not huge into Ibiza levels of bass). So i walk into the T-Mobile store and hook up the V-Moda XS right to the phone and set the amplification to the highest setting. I would rate it a solid 8.5 (again for portable application). Although to a newbie not typically used to listening on good headphones they would probably rate it a 20.
Basically as is, the V10 makes carrying a headphone AMP a bit unnecessary now. By the way, I paid $160 for that FiiO E18 headphone amp a year ago but the going rate was over $200. The big selling point was that it was made for Android and you could switch to different tracks using the side mounted buttons on the FiiO instead of having to take the phone out, unlock the screen and move to a different track. For whatever reasons, all headphone cords don't work with all music apps on Android.
All that being said, is the V10 the best in class phone for not just camera functionality but audio playback?
I know the new HTC and Samsung Note 5 have a few advantages of their own. I'm curious to see if anyone thinks these are better on audio than the V10 based on experience.
I gave the Note 5 a quick listen, and V10 beats it IMHO. Had a fiio e18 too, good little amp.
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The V10 will hands-down have the best audio performance of any phone to date. However, the question has been raised as to whether or not the ESS DAC/amp are active 24/7. It seems some apps use the standard Snapdragon DAC instead (typically streaming apps). Local content works fine as far as I can tell, and I may have found a workaround to force the ESS DAC on a session-by-session basis, but it might be something that can also be forced via software modifications produced by developers later on.
Well that's good to hear since I won't be going back to Samsung since they ditched SD card and removable battery.
One thing I thought of, the V-Moda XS is known for having a compact folding design that has "military" grade impact resistance and all around durable build quality. Which are similar selling points for the V10. Right out of the box, this is a great sound pairing. Some say the Beats Solo2 is on par with V-Moda XS on sound, but given the plastic build quality it's not really the same value for the money.
Yes, some apps aren't working. Tidal is gtg fortunately. Sounds pretty damn good too.
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The V10 will hands-down have the best audio performance of any phone to date. However, the question has been raised as to whether or not the ESS DAC/amp are active 24/7. It seems some apps use the standard Snapdragon DAC instead (typically streaming apps). Local content works fine as far as I can tell, and I may have found a workaround to force the ESS DAC on a session-by-session basis, but it might be something that can also be forced via software modifications produced by developers later on.
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I was wondering about that too. Let me touch on my experience a bit.
A couple of things for reference: I briefly tested the DAC with my Sennheiser Momentum, and then with my HD 650 without any intermediary signal processing. Also, I believe that the 32 bit is an overkill, so signal-wise I don't consider this better than a 16-bit DAC for practical purposes. Still, I like having it just because it's there. My comparison is between the V10 and a Nexus 4, as well as a FiiO E07K + Little Dot Mark III at times.
So, the Momentum: of course the Momentum run well and loud, since they are easily run. DAC-wise, I do notice some added clarity and soundstage with Hi Fi on using FLACS and 320 kbps files (nothing major, but it's there, as expected). All good.
Now, for the HD 650: the V10 with Hi Fi on will do an automatic impedance/power match, which is really nice for volume control normalization. In the end, the V10 makes the FiiO e07k useless, because the HD 650 sound fine, loud, and equally clear on the phone. Now here is the thing: we know that Spotify is not affected by the Hi Fi toggle, yet the sound is equally loud and clear on the HD 650 than with Hi Fi on using local files. When I turn Hi Fi off, the amp can't power the headphones nearly as well (or at all), impedance match ends, and the volume and clarity go down.
In short, Spotify with Hi Fi off = Local files with Hi Fi on, even though it's supposedly not affected by it.
What that means to me is that they could be doing a Beats maneuver, and lowering audio quality on Hi Fi off on local files to really give people the feel that turning it on affects music. On the other hand, it could mean that Spotify (or other 3rd party, streaming apps) simply bypass the toggle and just run on the amp/dac's full power regardless. Proof of the latter would be that my Nexus 4 (and some other phones I've tested) simply cannot drive the HD 650 at the level that the V10 does on Spotify. I mean, I can barely reach a mediocre volume on the Nexus 4 maxed out.
Keep in mind that this is my initial impression, and I haven't done an in-depth sound test yet. That said, I'm very happy with the V10 regardless, since it can effortlessly power my HD 650 without having to carry an external amp/dac combo.
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What that means to me is that they could be doing a Beats maneuver, and lowering audio quality on Hi Fi off on local files to really give people the feel that turning it on affects music. On the other hand, it could mean that Spotify (or other 3rd party, streaming apps) simply bypass the toggle and just run on the amp/dac's full power regardless. Proof of the latter would be that my Nexus 4 (and some other phones I've tested) simply cannot drive the HD 650 at the level that the V10 does on Spotify. I mean, I can barely reach a mediocre volume on the Nexus 4 maxed out.
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I don't think they lower quality for hi-fi off. It simply uses a completely different DAC. It defaults to the Qualcomm Snapdragon DAC... which is low quality.
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I don't think they lower quality for hi-fi off. It simply uses a completely different DAC. It defaults to the Qualcomm Snapdragon DAC... which is low quality.
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That's what it's supposed to be like, so I'm inclined to believe it. My question is whether Spotify is really using the ESS, even if it was not supposed to. More of a curiosity than anything.
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That's what it's supposed to be like, so I'm inclined to believe it. My question is whether Spotify is really using the ESS, even if it was not supposed to. More of a curiosity than anything.
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Inclined to believe what?
Someone reported getting 3rd party apps like spotify to use the ESS dac with toggling tricks so it's definitely possible that it was using the ESS dac.
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Inclined to believe what?
Someone reported getting 3rd party apps like spotify to use the ESS dac with toggling tricks so it's definitely possible that it was using the ESS dac.
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Of course it's possible, but I have yet to find a 100% sure response. Not that it's a big deal anyways, since the audio is fine regardless.
By the way, can you send a link to the report? I want to test it.
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Of course it's possible, but I have yet to find a 100% sure response. Not that it's a big deal anyways, since the audio is fine regardless.
By the way, can you send a link to the report? I want to test it.
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http://www.head-fi.org/t/782706/lg-...gship-android-phone-from-lg/465#post_12047691
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Thanks. That guy is saying something similar to what I said. Difference is, I didn't even have to overlap local file playing to trigger the amp/dac with Spotify. It just goes and it can't be turned off in any way, which is fine with me. But without any more information of course I was going to have initial doubts about it.
Can the v10 replace a standalone music player?
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I was wondering about that too. Let me touch on my experience a bit.
A couple of things for reference: I briefly tested the DAC with my Sennheiser Momentum, and then with my HD 650 without any intermediary signal processing. Also, I believe that the 32 bit is an overkill, so signal-wise I don't consider this better than a 16-bit DAC for practical purposes. Still, I like having it just because it's there. My comparison is between the V10 and a Nexus 4, as well as a FiiO E07K + Little Dot Mark III at times.
So, the Momentum: of course the Momentum run well and loud, since they are easily run. DAC-wise, I do notice some added clarity and soundstage with Hi Fi on using FLACS and 320 kbps files (nothing major, but it's there, as expected). All good.
Now, for the HD 650: the V10 with Hi Fi on will do an automatic impedance/power match, which is really nice for volume control normalization. In the end, the V10 makes the FiiO e07k useless, because the HD 650 sound fine, loud, and equally clear on the phone. Now here is the thing: we know that Spotify is not affected by the Hi Fi toggle, yet the sound is equally loud and clear on the HD 650 than with Hi Fi on using local files. When I turn Hi Fi off, the amp can't power the headphones nearly as well (or at all), impedance match ends, and the volume and clarity go down.
In short, Spotify with Hi Fi off = Local files with Hi Fi on, even though it's supposedly not affected by it.
What that means to me is that they could be doing a Beats maneuver, and lowering audio quality on Hi Fi off on local files to really give people the feel that turning it on affects music. On the other hand, it could mean that Spotify (or other 3rd party, streaming apps) simply bypass the toggle and just run on the amp/dac's full power regardless. Proof of the latter would be that my Nexus 4 (and some other phones I've tested) simply cannot drive the HD 650 at the level that the V10 does on Spotify. I mean, I can barely reach a mediocre volume on the Nexus 4 maxed out.
Keep in mind that this is my initial impression, and I haven't done an in-depth sound test yet. That said, I'm very happy with the V10 regardless, since it can effortlessly power my HD 650 without having to carry an external amp/dac combo.
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Do you think the v10 can match something like a Fiio X3? I normally have to carry my phone and the Fiio X3. It'd be great to be able to carry just one device and not have to sacrifice decent sound quality.
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Do you think the v10 can match something like a Fiio X3? I normally have to carry my phone and the Fiio X3. It'd be great to be able to carry just one device and not have to sacrifice decent sound quality.
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I found this in another forum:
"I have had about 2 days to seriously listen to the V10 with a variety of different headphones and I've continued to be blown away. It puts the iPhone 6/6s to shame and even embarrasses (what I thought to be excellent) Samsung GS6E+/Note 5. I'm typing this in my bed listening to London Grammar's "Flickers" with my LCD-3 and V10. I'm amazed that a) a phone could power these cans as well as the V10 does and b) that there is such excellent instrument separation, transparency, soundstage, and quickness from a smartphone DAC/amp combo. I'd choose this over a FiiO X1/X3/(even) an X5. Until you get into the Questyle/AK territory, this thing is just as competent as any DAP. With TIDAL!"
And with that, I'm in
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I found this in another forum:
"I have had about 2 days to seriously listen to the V10 with a variety of different headphones and I've continued to be blown away. It puts the iPhone 6/6s to shame and even embarrasses (what I thought to be excellent) Samsung GS6E+/Note 5. I'm typing this in my bed listening to London Grammar's "Flickers" with my LCD-3 and V10. I'm amazed that a) a phone could power these cans as well as the V10 does and b) that there is such excellent instrument separation, transparency, soundstage, and quickness from a smartphone DAC/amp combo. I'd choose this over a FiiO X1/X3/(even) an X5. Until you get into the Questyle/AK territory, this thing is just as competent as any DAP. With TIDAL!"
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I'll see if I can get one tomorrow and test for myself.
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Do you think the v10 can match something like a Fiio X3? I normally have to carry my phone and the Fiio X3. It'd be great to be able to carry just one device and not have to sacrifice decent sound quality.
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I have a Fiio e07K that I used to use on the go. The V10 does just as well, or maybe even better, than the Fiio. Assuming the X3 is comparable to the e07k (haven't tested it), I would just stick to the V10 and reduce bulk.
I think I'll sell the e07K now.
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I have a Fiio e07K that I used to use on the go. The V10 do just as well, or maybe even better, than the Fiio. Assuming the X3 is comparable to the e07k (haven't tested it), I would just stick to the V10 and reduce bulk.
I think I'll sell the e07K now.
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I think I'll sell my x3 as well.
Maybe it's possible that the V10 uses the ESS amplifier not matter what DAC is used. I've never noticed a difference between DACs for the most part... my PC sound card (Xonar Essence STX), Schiit Uber stack, and V10 all sound the same. Note5 honestly sounded about the same too. Maybe I just have insensitive ears or can't pick out the differences yet, but my AKG K812's are clearly the best sounding audio equipment I've ever heard, and I try to be critical in details of just about anything I hear sound through (apart from the source components). 320kbps .mp3's suit me just fine too.
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Maybe it's possible that the V10 uses the ESS amplifier not matter what DAC is used. I've never noticed a difference between DACs for the most part... my PC sound card (Xonar Essence STX), Schiit Uber stack, and V10 all sound the same. Note5 honestly sounded about the same too. Maybe I just have insensitive ears or can't pick out the differences yet, but my AKG K812's are clearly the best sounding audio equipment I've ever heard, and I try to be critical in details of just about anything I hear sound through (apart from the source components). 320kbps .mp3's suit me just fine too.
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mp3 normally sounds a bit more noisy and a lot of the details i look for are normally not present. then again, my hearing is pretty good. so I do notice the diffrence between mp3 at 320kbps and flac. At most times I don't listen to my music at high volumes either and then the missing stuff becomes more apparent.
I can tell the difference using Koss Portapro with 192kbps ogg.
The sound is more transparent than G4.
I have recently bought a Poco F1 and I need a good pair of earphones. I have a Samsung earphone, but I am afraid to use it. The last time I was in a Xiaomi service centre for my Mi A1, one of the technicians suggested me not to use Samsung earphones. He said the headphone jack on Samsung has a bit different shape even though 3.5mm headphone jack is universal. Samsung 3.5mm jacks are a bit narrow on the edge and thick at the bottom/end. Due to this structure, if it's pushed hard, the 3.5mm port may get damaged or loosen in a long run. After hearing this, I stopped using Samsung earphones (except Samsung devices) and now I am looking for a earphones which can produce perfect balanced music (not heavy bass or heavy treble). I was thinking of going for Xiaomi earphones, but the reviews are not good. Can someone please help me??
Thank you!!
I bought some Xiaomi Mi Youth earphones. Only about€5 and really nice sound quality (especially with the phone set to the right EQ for the earphones in settings)
Depends a bit on your taste, and the situation you want to use them.
For my home, I use a Sony MDR-10RNC, they are amazing in terms of sound quality. And I also got them pretty cheap, like 50 dollars, they were originally like 200 so I got a pretty got deal, sadly since they are also a bit old, like 6 years, you might have trouble to find them on that price.
For exterior, I use Bluetooth headphones, the Jaybird X2 you can find them also around the same price, or X1 cheaper, they sound quite great for bluetooth headphones, they are sweat proof, but I have use them on rains and never had a problem with them. They also deliver very good sound with poco, and to me they are very practical for subway or streets.
Hope it was from help!
Still using my Klipsch S4A II edition. Nice sound especially when listening to music with Viper4Android in it.
I am Using Apple Genuine 3.5mm .Perfect with "Mi Earbuds" in EQ Option.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
I have recently bought a Poco F1 and I need a good pair of earphones. I have a Samsung earphone, but I am afraid to use it. The last time I was in a Xiaomi service centre for my Mi A1, one of the technicians suggested me not to use Samsung earphones. He said the headphone jack on Samsung has a bit different shape even though 3.5mm headphone jack is universal. Samsung 3.5mm jacks are a bit narrow on the edge and thick at the bottom/end. Due to this structure, if it's pushed hard, the 3.5mm port may get damaged or loosen in a long run. After hearing this, I stopped using Samsung earphones (except Samsung devices) and now I am looking for a earphones which can produce perfect balanced music (not heavy bass or heavy treble). I was thinking of going for Xiaomi earphones, but the reviews are not good. Can someone please help me??
Thank you!!
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You can go for sennheiser one they are bit costly but has perfect balance between bass & treble. crystal clear sound as per my liking.
BUT what ever you go, go with earbuds which provide buttons so that you can change the song using it as in MIUI there's no provision to skip song via volume button on phone.
Oneplus 1st gen is also good option. (it has mic & 3 buttons and good sound at cheaper rate, afaik sennheiser one with same would cost you around twice as much)
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
I have recently bought a Poco F1 and I need a good pair of earphones. I have a Samsung earphone, but I am afraid to use it. The last time I was in a Xiaomi service centre for my Mi A1, one of the technicians suggested me not to use Samsung earphones. He said the headphone jack on Samsung has a bit different shape even though 3.5mm headphone jack is universal. Samsung 3.5mm jacks are a bit narrow on the edge and thick at the bottom/end. Due to this structure, if it's pushed hard, the 3.5mm port may get damaged or loosen in a long run. After hearing this, I stopped using Samsung earphones (except Samsung devices) and now I am looking for a earphones which can produce perfect balanced music (not heavy bass or heavy treble). I was thinking of going for Xiaomi earphones, but the reviews are not good. Can someone please help me??
Thank you!!
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interesting that you say that , thats why many complain sammy akg earphone is not working well with poco , i explain to a few people yet they are ignorant about it , lol
im using the Xiaomi Mi In-Ear Headphones Pro 2 / Quantie 2 which is present in the MIUI headphone settings.
curious anyone install soundabout app ? kept crashing
Xerk-Xes said:
im using the Xiaomi Mi In-Ear Headphones Pro 2 / Quantie 2 which is present in the MIUI headphone settings.
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How is it?? I placed order and cant wait for it to arrive...
Btw im still use Piston 3 and S8 Akg earphone at the moment...
Some offbeat ChiFi suggestions -
1. KZ ES4 (about 14$)
2. Rock Zircon (about 11$)
3. Tin audio T2 (about 35$)
All of them can be bought from aliexpress/gearbest and more than justify their price. Currently rocking an ES4 with my Poco and very happy with them. Hope it helps.
ronald_loulan said:
How is it?? I placed order and cant wait for it to arrive...
Btw im still use Piston 3 and S8 Akg earphone at the moment...
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They are excellent except the problem lies with the Poweramp or Pocophone being unable to play HiFi Flac files at 24bit via Direct HD.
I am using Viper4Android as main equalizer but havent tweaked it yet for this earphone as i am waiting for Android Pie Stable update for the Poco.
Keep your impedance low (true for wired earphones/headphones)
Good day, if you wanted to have better earphones just make sure to keep track with their impedances.
Keep your impedances in this range (earphones, IEMs, and the likes): 20 ohms or below, you can do up to 25 ohms max but that's really a gamble, I've seen that @prateekj1993 has posted a 25 ohm KZ ES4 and it works so I guess I'll adjust my recommendations up to 25 ohms as before I only suggest up to 20 ohms.
For headphones, you need to do lower impedance than earphones due to bigger speaker driver. You should keep your impedance below 16 ohms for higher peak volume, anything greater would make you crank you volume to max everytime as what I always did on my 19 ohms (passive mode) MDR-NC8 headphones. Active headphones with their own dedicated volume is an exception OFC.
Here's what I have:
1. KZ ZS6 (15 ohms).
2. KZ ZS5 (16 ohms).
3. MDR-NC8 (17 ohms active, 19 ohms passive).
I advice anyone posting here about their recommended earphones or IEMs to post the model name and the corresponding impedances. Thank you for reading.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
I have recently bought a Poco F1 and I need a good pair of earphones. I have a Samsung earphone, but I am afraid to use it. The last time I was in a Xiaomi service centre for my Mi A1, one of the technicians suggested me not to use Samsung earphones. He said the headphone jack on Samsung has a bit different shape even though 3.5mm headphone jack is universal. Samsung 3.5mm jacks are a bit narrow on the edge and thick at the bottom/end. Due to this structure, if it's pushed hard, the 3.5mm port may get damaged or loosen in a long run. After hearing this, I stopped using Samsung earphones (except Samsung devices) and now I am looking for a earphones which can produce perfect balanced music (not heavy bass or heavy treble). I was thinking of going for Xiaomi earphones, but the reviews are not good. Can someone please help me??
Thank you!!
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https://www.amazon.in/Focal-Sense-1...ords=focal&dpPl=1&dpID=31UFZZ8eYUL&ref=plSrch
You won't get to see such premium build and fantastic sound quality in this price range. This pair of earphones is bomb.
Xerk-Xes said:
They are excellent except the problem lies with the Poweramp or Pocophone being unable to play HiFi Flac files at 24bit via Direct HD.
I am using Viper4Android as main equalizer but havent tweaked it yet for this earphone as i am waiting for Android Pie Stable update for the Poco.
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Ohh man, i was really looking forward using that with poweramp...
Btw our DAC are not fully ultilise? Or Poco DAC sucks??
Well impedance is not a parameter for audioquality
If you have the money and you want one of the best planar magnetic inears: audeze isine 10 or isine 20
They sound like big overears of even like a soundsystem, amazing iem's i have the isine 20 and its par on par with the audeze lcd 3 bigger brother
ronald_loulan said:
Ohh man, i was really looking forward using that with poweramp...
Btw our DAC are not fully ultilise? Or Poco DAC sucks??
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I believe it's not fully utilized because the Direct HD used the 24 bit upon an update but unfortunately i messed it up by going into the Audio Settings of the Output which reverts it back to the 16 bit.
Otherwise the sampling frequency options work fine.
I recently bought the OnePlus Wireless Bullets.
Im really happy with those earphones so far
The magnetic functions work so far really well. Auto disconnect and auto connect work. The only thing that does not work is autoplay function when they are connected, but I wouldn't like it anyway.
They have a Type-C connector and Dash Charge.
jody2k said:
Well impedance is not a parameter for audioquality
If you have the money and you want one of the best planar magnetic inears: audeze isine 10 or isine 20
They sound like big overears of even like a soundsystem, amazing iem's i have the isine 20 and its par on par with the audeze lcd 3 bigger brother
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WTF dude, did you just say that impedance is not a parameter for audio quality? Impedance matching is the first thing you should do when you want to match your speaker/earphones/headphones to your amp. Anyways it is known that Poco F1 can drive in-ears up to 25 ohms so your isine 10 and 20 (both 24 ohms) is well within range.
FYI impedance dictates the volume and also how the audio quality behaves all-throughout the volume range. If you match your Poco to a 32 ohm headphones, you'll have a very low volume output even at 100%. Audio quality is nil when you can't hear a decent sound.
Do you know what people does when they blindly bought 32 ohm in ears for Poco? They complain that Poco's sounds too low. You're lucky that your isine is 24 ohms if you have that kind of mindset towards impedance.
I'd recommend you to buy a good DAC cable first since the audio output isn't good for me. You can get Venture Electronics Odyssey for budget or Sonata HD II for a bit higher price range.
For the IEM's, I'd say go for music/audio shops and audition each earphones you find there. Each one has different preference depending on music genres and artists. I currently use KZ ED16 which has balanced sound signature in case you want a reference.