I have forgotten how a dell streak 5 aws would behave on ATT networks. Can anyone pls help refresh my memory?
It seems data frequencies for ATT are UMTS 850 1900 2100. The aws runs 900 1700 2100.
Only one band overlaps ie umts 2100. How does a aws model with a ATT sim card respond in non-umts 2100 coverage areas??
Thanks.
AWS Streaks on AT&T, because of the different bands, are limited to EDGE (2G) speeds. Data will be slow, but should be usable.
If you don't wanna be stuck on edge ill trade ya a HTC vivid
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I unlocked my Vibrant and put in my AT&T sim, and I'm not even getting edge. What do I need to do to enable 850mhz 3G?
(And yes I have 850mhz 3G here)
Restored and got edge. still no 3g...
The vibrant does not have the 850 MHz 3G band so it will not work on 3g if your area has the 850 MHz band.
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I have the HTC Radar 4G on T-Mobile. Once I unlock it and use it on At&T, it will definitely do calls, but will it pick up 3G or 4G on the AT&T network? I asked HTC and they were unsure. Thanks!
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AT&T uses 850 MHz / 1900 MHz for GSM/GPRS/EDGE and the same two frequencies (850 / 1900) for UMTS/HSPA (their 3G/4G service).
T-Mobile uses the same frequencies (850 / 1900) for GSM/GPRS/EDGE, but uses 2100 MHz and 1700 MHz for UMTS/HSPA/AWS (their 3G / 4G network).
If you want to know what phones will work where, compare the frequencies they receive with those of the carrier you want to use.
In the case of the Radar, it uses the following frequencies
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850 MHz; 900 MHz; 1800 MHz; 1900 MHz
UMTS/HSPA: 1700 MHz; 2100 MHz
So, for GSM phone calls and data you have a match with AT&T (and, of course with T-Mobile). 3G / 4G is a different story. The Radar has the T-Mobile 3G/4g bands, but not the bands for high-speed data on AT&T.
So, if you are happy just making phone calls and using EDGE data, then you can use the phone on AT&T. If you want 3G /4G as well you have to stick with T-Mobile.
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I finally was able to get the h2O SIM card (AT&T service) and surprisingly it picks up 3G! I definitely notice the difference from when it goes from 2G up to the 3G speeds
http://www.htc.com/us/products/radar4g-tmobile?view=1-1&sort=0#tech-specs
Apparently. It says it does 2100/1900/1700/850
*T-Mobile only uses 1700/1900 bands. source
Interesting! I took my specs from the T-Mobile page which omits the UMTS 850/1900 band. Thanks for the correction.
The box clearly states GSM 850/900/1900/2100 AND HSPA/UMTS: 1700/1900/2100
AWS 1700 = T-Mobile, Wind, Mobilicity
UMTS 1900 = AT&T (although they use 850 extensively too), Rogers, Telus, etc
UMTS 2100 = Asia/Europe
My Radar picks up AT&T 3G. Not sure if UMTS 1900 band will be omnipresent on AT&T as a lot have been extended with HSPA 850 as well.
So, whereever you find UMTS 1900, you'll definitely catch AT&T 3G
Hope this helps.
So, will this work with the medianet plan?
z33dev33l said:
So, will this work with the medianet plan?
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Hey guys, just about to trade and get one of these, I just want to know if it can work in the UK because At&t is USA based. Will my O2 sim work in it by using the app from the market which carrier unlocks it?
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Hey guys, just about to trade and get one of these, I just want to know if it can work in the UK because At&t is USA based. Will my O2 sim work in it by using the app from the market which carrier unlocks it?
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It'll probably work but I don't think o2 supports the 3g bands our phone uses so you'll be running on edge
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thanks,
I searched up o2's 3g bands and it came up with, 850,900 and 1800.
The samsung galaxy s2 i777 model bands: Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, 3G EURO/AT&T AND 3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
So it could possibly work. I don't use 3G much anyway, I only get 2g in my area and at school I get HSDPA. Might ask the trader if i can trial the:
a) sim
b) network connection bands
sensation lover said:
thanks,
I searched up o2's 3g bands and it came up with, 850,900 and 1800.
The samsung galaxy s2 i777 model bands: Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, 3G EURO/AT&T AND 3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
So it could possibly work. I don't use 3G much anyway, I only get 2g in my area and at school I get HSDPA. Might ask the trader if i can trial the:
a) sim
b) network connection bands
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Just might have to make sure you are not in a 1900 mhz band area
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Just FYI, only ONE of the frequencies need to match for you to get 3G, they don't send out one frequency at a time.
Want to get the s3 but want to make sure it works with TMobile.
No, you will only get edge speeds, no 3g.
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It works for me. Bought my unbranded, non-simlocked phone in Europe. Visiting US now. Daily plan with T-Mobile works fine for me.
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It works for me. Bought my unbranded, non-simlocked phone in Europe. Visiting US now. Daily plan with T-Mobile works fine for me.
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And you are getting 3g speeds??
I doubt that, the international version doesn't have the frequency for tmo's 3g.
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i also tried my att i747 sgs iii after i unlocked it with a t mobile sim.. works but also only get edge.. maybe it would work if i flashed the t mobile modem?
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i also tried my att i747 sgs iii after i unlocked it with a t mobile sim.. works but also only get edge.. maybe it would work if i flashed the t mobile modem?
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No, its nothing to do with the modem. If it was, people all over the world would be buying devices from other countries.
The fact is the international GSM version only works on the frequencies its designed to work on. This is a hardware limitation and no amount of software will resolve that.
International frequencies are different to USA frequencies and as such, devices not designed for the USA will not work to their full potential in the USA.
UK (international) uses 900 Mhz/1800Mhz GSM/3G where as USA T-mob uses 1900Mhz GSM and 2100Mhz 3G.
Because the International GSM quad band device is:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz...
The GSM and 2G function works on 1900 (T-mob) but has no way to use 2100 for 3G as its not physically possible
Edit:
USA Carrier Voice Frequencies (MHz) 3G 4G Notes
AT&T 850 (Band 5)/ 1900(Band 2) 850 / 1900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1700/2100 MHz) GSM
MetroPCS 1900 / AWS 1900 / AWS AWS CDMA
Sprint 1900 1900 2500 / 1900 G-Block CDMA
T-Mobile USA 1900 AWS(1700/2100 MHz)/PCS (1900) AWS (1700/2100 MHz) GSM
Verizon 800 / 1900 800 / 1900 700 / AWS CDMA (GSM for 4G)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
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Sorry I pressed thanks instead of quote.
No, its nothing to do with the modem. If it was, people all over the world would be buying devices from other countries.
The fact is the international GSM version only works on the frequencies its designed to work on. This is a hardware limitation and no amount of software will resolve that.
International frequencies are different to USA frequencies and as such, devices not designed for the USA will not work to their full potential in the USA.
UK (international) uses 900 Mhz/1800Mhz GSM/3G where as USA T-mob uses 1900Mhz GSM and 2100Mhz 3G.
Because the International GSM quad band device is:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz...
The GSM and 2G function works on 1900 (T-mob) but has no way to use 2100 for 3G as its not physically possible
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USA Carrier Voice Frequencies (MHz) 3G 4G Notes
AT&T 850 (Band 5)/ 1900(Band 2) 850 / 1900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1700/2100 MHz) GSM
MetroPCS 1900 / AWS 1900 / AWS AWS CDMA
Sprint 1900 1900 2500 / 1900 G-Block CDMA
T-Mobile USA 1900 AWS(1700/2100 MHz)/PCS (1900) AWS (1700/2100 MHz) GSM
Verizon 800 / 1900 800 / 1900 700 / AWS CDMA (GSM for 4G)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
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yes i agree for international version.. but if you read closer i DONT have the international version but the att version.. and as far as i know all the usa versions are the same with just diff. modems.
The international version will work in areas where T-Mobile is refarming 1900mhz to 3G. However this is only happening in parts of the coasts. I'm using it in Ohio and getting EDGE only. That said, it isn't too bad.
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The international version will work in areas where T-Mobile is refarming 1900mhz to 3G. However this is only happening in parts of the coasts. I'm using it in Ohio and getting EDGE only. That said, it isn't too bad.
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Erm, it's being tested in some coastal areas, but the 3g/hspa+ over the 1900 band is slated to go live on the majority of the network by the end of the year.
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No service HELP or clairfication PLEASE
I purchased a Tinji i9300. I have been working on this for over 3 weeks. I have no service with T-mobile. It recognizes my SIM card as T-mobile. In Engineer Mode, my bands are, EGSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900, GSM850, WCDMA-IMT-2000. I have tried numerous ROMs (stock and custom) and have rooted the phone. I have changed the IMEI. No service at all. Any thoughts? Band issue? T-mobile issue? Possible solution? **** out of luck? :crying:
Thank you!
I want to know if with the international lumia 920 will work with ATT 4g LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_920-4967.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_900_at&t-4275.php
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I want to if with the international lumia 920 will work with ATT 4g LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_920-4967.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_900_at&t-4275.php
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I'm curious too. I refuse to buy the Lumia in black off of Rogers and the AT&T model is likely to be unlockable like the 900 was.
Add one more request to that. I'm not eligible for an upgrade until next year, so I'll be paying full price for my Lumia 920. I'd rather get the unbranded version if I go that route, since I won't have AT&T blocking any updates that they're notorious for doing.
Hopefully someone will answer this, that att logo looks ugly, and they block updates, so I need to know this, and two others too.
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It will work fine -
http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia920/specifications
Operating Frequency
Frequency bands
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band IV (1700)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
LTE 700
LTE 800
LTE 850
LTE 900
LTE 1700
LTE 1800
LTE 1900
LTE 2100
LTE 2600
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It will work fine -
http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia920/specifications
Operating Frequency
Frequency bands
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band IV (1700)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
LTE 700
LTE 800
LTE 850
LTE 900
LTE 1700
LTE 1800
LTE 1900
LTE 2100
LTE 2600
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Unless Nokia did something extraordinary, I really do not believe they will release the phone with 9 LTE bands.
The original specs was PentaBand LTE and the AT&T LTE Bands were missing. Meaning the international version will NOT work on AT&T's 4G LTE.
Please see my post here for more information.
Here's an interesting article about unlocked/international phones. I found it pretty informative.
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57527428-85/how-phones-are-optimized-and-why-you-should-care-smartphones-unlocked/
I may just resign myself the AT&T version.
Make a simple answer yes or no? The att lte phone have lte 2100 so does the international lumia 920.
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Make a simple answer yes or no? The att lte phone have lte 2100 so does the international lumia 920.
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Yes. According to the current specs both have LTE at 2100Mhz.