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I find this for NC. Can we use that method for NT?
I'll look into it.
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I'll look into it.
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Thank you!
I'm a little confused here. Can B&N actually force an update on you? Or is it like the iphone, where they notify you that an update is available and then you decide whether to update or not?
I'm little wary of a company that would force an update to my device, without letting me know or giving me the option to decline. Is this really how B&N works? If so, I don't know if I'm gonna keep my Nook Tablet. I prefer to decide when I'm gonna update, not leave it in someone else's hands.
Anyone know anything about this?
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I'm a little confused here. Can B&N actually force an update on you? Or is it like the iphone, where they notify you that an update is available and then you decide whether to update or not?
I'm little wary of a company that would force an update to my device, without letting me know or giving me the option to decline. Is this really how B&N works? If so, I don't know if I'm gonna keep my Nook Tablet. I prefer to decide when I'm gonna update, not leave it in someone else's hands.
Anyone know anything about this?
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you don't have a choice, the update will appear and update your device. if you look in the nook color thread there was a work around to prevent it I believe. same way google market would auto update without a workaround.
I ran cm7 off of sd and kept stock nook so i didn't really care.
I haven't rooted the tablet yet since I'm betting b&n will patch the loophole and I want to see how things play out. if it is true they locked the bootloader to get netflix hd it kinda sucks. I'm sure netflix didn't have a choice in requiring that either.
yet again, the avg. person gets screwed with the idea you can protect your content when in reality it won't stop people from stealing.
I think the sqqlite method is the best.
I'll try when I will receive my nook
diamond_lover said:
I think the sqqlite method is the best.
I'll try when I will receive my nook
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Well I'm not too technically savvy, so if I can't follow any of the methods to block OTAs, then I guess I'm gonna have to return the tablet. It's a great device but I don't like the idea of suddenly being unable to use 3rd party apps that I paid for from Amazon, as well as apps that allow me to watch divx files, etc. I wasn't even planning on rooting, I'm fine with just sideloading apps. But if B&N removes that ability, that greatly decreases the value of the tablet, sadly. Might as well return it while I'm still within my 2 weeks and seek out a device that's slightly less restrictive.
It's a shame because I've been looking for a tablet for a long time and I really thought the nook might be the one. I guess the search continues.
Don't panic
Again - this is a really new topic. Don't return / cancel your order based on OTA updates.
The devs will come up with something really simple that takes care of it - give them a few days.
diamond_lover said:
I think the sqqlite method is the best.
I'll try when I will receive my nook
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Please tell us if it works on NT
Don't Logon to Avoid Update
I think I have been able to avoid an automatic update by not logging on to BN.com from stock until I'm ready.
APLCoder said:
I think I have been able to avoid an automatic update by not logging on to BN.com from stock until I'm ready.
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Hey that's a really good point actually.
If we don't log into BN.com, how do they even know that we own a Nook?
I haven't logged in and have no plans to do so, so maybe that means my nook won't automatically update?
Perhaps?
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Hey that's a really good point actually.
If we don't log into BN.com, how do they even know that we own a Nook?
I haven't logged in and have no plans to do so, so maybe that means my nook won't automatically update?
Perhaps?
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In order to do this...if we have logged in to the B&N account, can we remove the account without doing a restore?
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downsay said:
In order to do this...if we have logged in to the B&N account, can we remove the account without doing a restore?
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Thing is, if you never registered your nook with B&N- how do they even know you have one?
It's not like there's some central computer out there that detects nooks and updates them when it finds them.
Seems to me (and I could be wrong) that if you don't access B&N services, they have no way of knowing you even own a nook.
Unless the Nook itself somehow "phones home" without your permission- how would B&N know about it, much less update it?
Anyone (more in the know) have thoughts about this?
If I do root the device and it does autoupdate, will it brick my device?
Another good question is, can you use your nook without registering it with B&N?
I'm tempted to restore mine, just to see if I can fire it up without needing to register. I'm never gonna use B&N services, so there's no point.
Another question: can you DEregister a nook from B&N?
Curious...
I was never able to bypass the registration screen after a factory reset. I think you HAVE to register.
Can't you just block the update server in your HOSTS file by pointing it to loopback or something?
On the Nook Color you could manually download the update file and drop it into the root of /mnt/media (I think that was the folder) and it would install when the device was idle. If you can figure out what the file name is you might also be able to create a file with the same name and remove all permissions so that it can't be overwritten (hence no update).
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Another question: can you DEregister a nook from B&N?
Curious...
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Its under the nook settings
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I was never able to bypass the registration screen after a factory reset. I think you HAVE to register.
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Yeah I was wondering about that. Well that's discouraging.
However I'm still wondering about what happens if you're never logged into your nook account. B&N can create the update, but how can they push it to your nook if you're not logged in?
Granted with this method you could NEVER log in, but frankly I could live with that.
You can de-register your device by signing into the B&N website on your computer and going to the device section for your profile. I think if you do it from the tablet it will force a factory reset.
So my phone is totally stock, no root (yeah I know, what am I doing on XDA?). Only reason is, I bought it recently in November, and I'm gonna hold off on voiding that not-so-precious warranty until a stable, working, useful ICS rom comes out, then I'll take the plunge.
My problem is that my phone constantly asks me to update to the crappy, broken new 2.3.6 update that AT&T is pushing to everyone. I haven't downloaded it yet as far as I know, it just asks me to press okay to dl the file over Wifi and I keep hitting home to get rid of the screen (there's no cancel button) so I can get on with whatever I was doing before. Is there any way to make this permanently stop? I just tried entering recovery mode and clearing the cache partition, that didn't do anything as the first screen that came up after reboot and unlock was the update one.
tl;dr - how do I get it to stop asking me to update? >.>
There are at least three threads on this same subject. Use the search next time.
The answer is in the below thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1449585
This doesn't really help, but as far as I know, u have to root ur phone to do this. It's not hard to root, and it's almost impossible to break your phone while rooting. Do some searching and you will find an easy root guide. There is not a way to stop the update because this requires deleting a system app, which u need root access to do.
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You can hit the home key and kill the process. It will come back when you reboot, but that's about all you can do aside from rooting or updating. If it has downloaded the update, you can clear the program data for it. It's called device management or something similar.
I was in the same boat a few days ago. I didn't really want to root cause I didn't think I'd use any of the extra functionality. I got annoyed by the nagging update screen and figured I might as well take the next step. Running unnamed 1.3.2 and entropy's 12/08 kernel. I strongly recommend you do the same. All the bloat is gone, the phone feels more responsive and battery life is significantly better.
moustro said:
There are at least three threads on this same subject. Use the search next time.
The answer is in the below thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1449585
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I apologize, I did do some searching but nothing came up for me, maybe I didn't search hard enough or use the right search terms. Guess I can't do it without root/TiBu, so until I decide it's worth my time, I'll deal with it.
I have stock and I strip all bloatware myself disabled device manager and deleted tether manager.
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Guess it'd depend on the ROM you're running. I've never once had my phone ask if I wanted to install an update. lol
Can an admin close this thread? I don't see a use for it anymore, my question was answered.
I can't uninstall it, under managing apps it says deviceDefault, I don't see an icon for it, but I'd like it off the phone. I don't remember seeing it when I went thru my phone when I 1st got it. Not sure if it was installed somehow thru another program, weird that some other program can install something to the root to which even I the owner doesn't even have the ability to get to the root. VERY IRRITATING!
does city id expire?
from what I've been reading you can tell it No when the trial ends (14 day supposedly) and asks you if you wanna subscribe, when you click No, it goes away.. This info was off of another phone thread, not a Note.
I saw the same thing today, and also didn't see any way to remove it.
Same here. I don't even see the app on the list except when I go to application settings. I've been reading about it and everyone's giving it bad reviews. I want it off if it's useless
You can't remove it unless you root your phone.
It has 14-day trial (starts when you first dial your phone). At the end of the trial period, you will get a prompt. Make sure you clicked NO button to permernantly disable it. It costs a few dollars per month to continue using it. So, you either purchase the service or disable it.
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You can't remove it unless you root your phone.
It has 14-day trial (starts when you first dial your phone). At the end of the trial period, you will get a prompt. Make sure you clicked NO button to permernantly disable it. It costs a few dollars per month to continue using it. So, you either purchase the service or disable it.
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Is there anyway to re-enable this thing or once you opt out, that's it?
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Is there anyway to re-enable this thing or once you opt out, that's it?
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Don't know. Why do you want to pay something like $2/month to use it? I'm pretty sure there is something similar in the app market that do the samething for much less.
foxbat121 said:
Don't know. Why do you want to pay something like $2/month to use it? I'm pretty sure there is something similar in the app market that do the samething for much less.
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I use Mr. Number, so I don't really need the City ID, but I do kinda like where it tells me where the caller is coming from, which makes spotting calls to block easy for me. I wish it was a one time fee only.
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I wish it was a one time fee only.
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That's not gonna happen. AT&T spent all its effort to jam that into your phone so that they can make recurring service charges (as most of its bloatwares do). I agree it is nice thing to have, for free. But I usually don't pick up any phone calls unless I know the number that calls in.
root + titanium backup/root uninstaller. Same as all the att bloat
Yep I rooted my phone using this sites info http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-note-i717/how-to-unlock-sim-on-your-att-galaxy-note-sgh-i717-bellrogerstelus/
Then used this info http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-note-i717/how-to-get-free-wifi-tethering-hotspot-on-att-galaxy-note-sgh-i717/ to get my wifi hotspot activated & used it to remove the CityID stuff as well... Just like KingofKingsB said above, but with the links here, it makes sense of what he posted...
By the way Titanium Backup was the only way I could even find CityID to remove it, tried my other file managers & never could locate it.
Yes, root and uninstall it.
I posted a free app here, it does the same thing as CityID without paying subscription. Enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550305&highlight=city+id
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Yes, root and uninstall it.
I posted a free app here, it does the same thing as CityID without paying subscription. Enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550305&highlight=city+id
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My city ID expired a few days ago. I had emailed this link to myself and dug it out when it I was prompted that it had expired. I havn't noticed any difference in the service now.
Or you can go in and delete the data for CityID which will reset the trial period. Not that you'll want to do it every 10-15 days, but it is an option.
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Or you can go in and delete the data for CityID which will reset the trial period. Not that you'll want to do it every 10-15 days, but it is an option.
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Ha! Does that work? Never thought of it though, interesting. I'd classify this as an exploit, and probably shouldn't be discussed, but still interesting that if it worked.
if it's not deleted it'll take up space so might as well delete instead of just letting it stay dormant on your system. but it's your phone do what you want!!
Yup, tried it myself.
Okay so I was browsing my phone and happened to run across the System state saying "Modified"
The issue I am having is I have never even downloaded a rooting app. The only thing close to root I have used is called Helium, which does not require root, but it can backup/restore apps+data.
I am slightly worried that if I have to send my phone in for some reason they will see this and say I have messed with the system, although I have not in the first place.
Has anyone else encountered this random issue? Other than that this phone is quite a good phone and I'm pleased with it greatly.
Did you......root your phone?
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Okay so I was browsing my phone and happened to run across the System state saying "Modified"
The issue I am having is I have never even downloaded a rooting app. The only thing close to root I have used is called Helium, which does not require root, but it can backup/restore apps+data.
I am slightly worried that if I have to send my phone in for some reason they will see this and say I have messed with the system, although I have not in the first place.
Has anyone else encountered this random issue? Other than that this phone is quite a good phone and I'm pleased with it greatly.
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Let me grab a non-rooted G3 here in a few and check. I don't know that they dont all say that. Get back to you shortly. Mine also says this; however, I did root and unlock mine.
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Did you......root your phone?
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Did you fully read his post before replying? I suppose my question is as rhetorical as yours...
My interpretation was that he has not installed one rooting app. One was left to assume he had rooted the phone or did not have a rooted phone which was the basis of my question. And yes I did read his post to answer your question. I would not leave you to assume I did from my response.
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no big deal that it says that. move along
If you go to the Verizon store and look at the G3's they have on display, they all say "modified" instead of "official" however when I received my phone it said "official" until I rooted it.
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Just flash it back to stock if you have any issues. May as well root now anyway. G3 tweak box is amazing!
Sorry for late reply, at work so hard to get on atm.
I have not touched a single rooting app to this phone since I bought it new the day they came out. I have thought about rooting it, but I am touchy when it comes to phones that are in warrenty.
Although I might just say heck with it and actually root it anyways since it's saying modified, my main concern was why it was already saying it was modified when I hadn't touched it yet. I have experience rooting/restoring phones/tablets ever since the mesmerize/desire/fascinate ages so it shouldn't be too hard
I doubt this has anything to do with it, but when it turns on from a restart/shutdown one of the verizon apps "vzrwsservice" or something like that says it has crashed and then goes away until i restart again.
Thanks for you replies though, if someone does come up with a phone that isn't rooted but says modified, I'd be interested to know so that we can figure what's causing this.
My unrooted Verizon g3 does not say modified. It says official.
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Sorry for late reply, at work so hard to get on atm.
I have not touched a single rooting app to this phone since I bought it new the day they came out. I have thought about rooting it, but I am touchy when it comes to phones that are in warrenty.
Although I might just say heck with it and actually root it anyways since it's saying modified, my main concern was why it was already saying it was modified when I hadn't touched it yet. I have experience rooting/restoring phones/tablets ever since the mesmerize/desire/fascinate ages so it shouldn't be too hard
I doubt this has anything to do with it, but when it turns on from a restart/shutdown one of the verizon apps "vzrwsservice" or something like that says it has crashed and then goes away until i restart again.
Thanks for you replies though, if someone does come up with a phone that isn't rooted but says modified, I'd be interested to know so that we can figure what's causing this.
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Hypothetical.... lets say someone bought it, played with it and rooted it or botched a root and returned it. try root checker in app store. just saying. makes more sense then someone snuck in your bedroom and took it and rooted while you were sleeping and returned it.
Another hypothetical...
Could it switch to "modified" if one were not rooted but had disabled some of the bloat? Just a thought.
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Another hypothetical...
Could it switch to "modified" if one were not rooted but had disabled some of the bloat? Just a thought.
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As of now, I cannot tell what it was to change it to modified, I went ahead and tried a reset through the settings and it kept the modified status, did a flash restore and it finally got rid of the modified and is now stating Official.
(To note that when it was in download mode it also stated modified before I flashed it with the ToT file.)
I did also find the reason for the verizon server to crash, which I cannot find the location of the thread elsewhere, but it is due to Google+ and one of verizons apps not being compatible with each other and eventually causing verizons app to crash. The only way so far to fix it is either downgrade google+ to stock, or disable the VerizonAvsService to stop the crash at boot.
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Another hypothetical...
Could it switch to "modified" if one were not rooted but had disabled some of the bloat? Just a thought.
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I have disabled a bunch of bloat without root and it has not changed to modified.
It's a Fact!!!
veteranmina said:
Sorry for late reply, at work so hard to get on atm.
I have not touched a single rooting app to this phone since I bought it new the day they came out. I have thought about rooting it, but I am touchy when it comes to phones that are in warrenty.
Although I might just say heck with it and actually root it anyways since it's saying modified, my main concern was why it was already saying it was modified when I hadn't touched it yet. I have experience rooting/restoring phones/tablets ever since the mesmerize/desire/fascinate ages so it shouldn't be too hard
I doubt this has anything to do with it, but when it turns on from a restart/shutdown one of the verizon apps "vzrwsservice" or something like that says it has crashed and then goes away until i restart again.
Thanks for you replies though, if someone does come up with a phone that isn't rooted but says modified, I'd be interested to know so that we can figure what's causing this.
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I have verified for myself, that my Verizon LG G3 says "Modified" as well, yet it's a fact that I have never rooted or modified any of my system settings... I'm running Stock 6.0 Marshmallow... Go figure... Who knows with Verizon...
I've recently upgraded phones and have decided to root my S5 active. Unfortunately, I am not running the NE4 version of the firmware, therefore, I am not able to use Towelroot. I've done quite a bit of digging trying to solve the problem to no avail. I've tried using Odin to either downgrade my firmware or install a custom/rooted firmware but Odin gives an "Auth" fail. I've done as much research as I can into why I get an auth fail and nothing I've seen suggested has helped. I've tried installing firmware through the SD card, looked into sideloading firmware but that seems to be only for updates as far as I can tell. I am well and truly at a loss and was hoping someone could help.
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Version: 5.1.1
I hate to say it but you are in the same boat I am. There is no root for that. They patched the hole and prevent downgrading.
The only ones that might have been able to break it walked away from Samsung years ago. Sorry. Don't feel bad your not alone.
Surely to god someone SOMEWHERE has figured something out? Maybe I can take it to best buy and have them downgrade the software for me?
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Surely to god someone SOMEWHERE has figured something out? Maybe I can take it to best buy and have them downgrade the software for me?
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It won't work. The updated bootloader prevents it being downgraded. It would take a jtag machine and Samsung to do it.
No. No one has. You have to remember that the best walked away from Samsung. Anyone that tries to break it gets hit with a C&D order.
No I had no idea about that :/
Towel root has something interesting that I saw
https://towelroot.com/modstrings.html
Anybody know anything about this?
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No I had no idea about that :/
Towel root has something interesting that I saw
https://towelroot.com/modstrings.html
Anybody know anything about this?
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Can't say I do. I would never use towel root or king/kingo root.
zelendel said:
Can't say I do. I would never use towel root or king/kingo root.
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Any particular reason why not?
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Any particular reason why not?
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Security concerns. Mind you that is a personal thing and many people are fine with it. Just not me.
So maybe I could find someone who knows more about them to see if they can do something about this?
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So maybe I could find someone who knows more about them to see if they can do something about this?
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Considering no one has been able to be able to crack Samsung locks I wouldn't count on it. I would just accept that it is a locked down device. This is the reason developers Dont buy Samsung devices anymore.
I've shot the creator of towelroot an email asking about mod strings. Hopefully he can explain it a little and help me out. If I find something out I'll let you know but I still am hopeful someone has SOME solution for me. I'm desperate
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I've shot the creator of towelroot an email asking about mod strings. Hopefully he can explain it a little and help me out. If I find something out I'll let you know but I still am hopeful someone has SOME solution for me. I'm desperate
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Well to be honest. If root is something you need then you should avoid Samsung.
If you find something then cool. I'll never use it. The security issues could get me in trouble keeping with my job so it's out of the question.
The only reason I'm trying so hard is because this is my old phone and I can't really afford much of anything else. If I felt like I had another option, I'd go for it. I have no security concerns, I'm not even particularly concerned about bricking my old phone. If I can't figure out how to root it, it might as well be a brick anyway for how useful it is.
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The only reason I'm trying so hard is because this is my old phone and I can't really afford much of anything else. If I felt like I had another option, I'd go for it. I have no security concerns, I'm not even particularly concerned about bricking my old phone. If I can't figure out how to root it, it might as well be a brick anyway for how useful it is.
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It's still a good device. Even stock. The security concerns are there you just don't understand them completely. As an example. They store your IMEI. Which can be used to clone your device. As such when the oem sees 2 IMEI the same it kills both devices. Making them both not work.
I'll be honest for that device you are gonna waste more time trying to find away around it. ( it will be blocked again with the 6.0 update that is planned for it) then you would just using it as is. Mine is completely stock and works as it should.
I'm honestly not worried about losing the device to something like that. I'm not storing anything particularly interesting on it but I need the root to do what I want. I won't be updating the firmware at all so it'll never go to 6.0
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I'm honestly not worried about losing the device to something like that. I'm not storing anything particularly interesting on it but I need the root to do what I want. I won't be updating the firmware at all so it'll never go to 6.0
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Well then good luck. You will need it. Also keep in mind with those root you will have to reroot every reboot. That's if he can find a new whole Samsung has not patched, which is becoming harder with monthly security updates.
It is well accepted around here that sooner or later only nexus devices will be rootable or have any development done for it.
If I had known that earlier, it could've saved me a lot of hassle but this is where I am right now. My new phone is the S7 edge and I really want to use the S5 active for something else.
No one knows of anyone I can even pay to look into maybe even changing the firmware? No way to load custom firmware at all?
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If I had known that earlier, it could've saved me a lot of hassle but this is where I am right now. My new phone is the S7 edge and I really want to use the S5 active for something else.
No one knows of anyone I can even pay to look into maybe even changing the firmware? No way to load custom firmware at all?
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No. Samsung locked it down. They made it so the bootloader can't be downgraded. You have to understand most of the real good developers walked away from Samsung and now refuse to work on their devices or even buy them. When it comes to developers Samsung is at the top of the list right next to Xiaomi of devices not to get. More and more teams are even dropping all support for Samsung devices. It's just the way it is really.
And since it's a phone the hardware can't be changed either?
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And since it's a phone the hardware can't be changed either?
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It can be but you would have to find a device that has the old 4.4.4 rom and then swap mother boards. Not easy at all. Let alone the min it gets connected to a cell network it will update anyway.
I know it's a hard thing to do but I would get used to it mainly with the new device you just. Got.