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I created this http://www.change.org/petitions/htc...unlock-the-droid-incredible-4g-lte-bootloader. to petition the unlock of the bootloader. We can't just sign a petition an pray for it to happen. We must get on their Facebook, twitter an any social media site they have pressuring them into this. Don't go post "hey assholes unlock our device", that won't help, just makes you look stupid! Post on their something like "I've been with you since 2005,long time customer, but you locking my device down in unacceptable! If this isn't fixed shortly I will leave for another company!" stuff like that over an over will get their attention. At the same time spread the word of the site an the unfairness of both the companies.
It's time to rise up an show them, without us, they are nothing!
Some extra info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32332265#post32332265
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if anyone has some suggestion,like change this or other stuff. bring it up here,so we can all discuss it. this is a community.even though the petition has my name on it,its all for you guys. so if their isnt something in it you dont like,well didnt i say bring it up?? lets all work together on this.
If anyone has heard back from either company, please share it here with everyone.
I might delete some comments in the future, just to showcase responses back from people or other stuff. It's not personal .
10/1/2012:
Thanks to mdmower,I added his revised version for the petition. I'll admit his looks better then mine.
mdmower said:
Include the HTC Incredible 4G LTE in HTCdev's unlockable bootloader program
Upon release of the HTC Incredible 4G LTE, HTCdev included the phone in its unlockable bootloader program. Within a matter [of] days, the phone was removed from the program, presumably at the request of Verizon Wireless. There is no clear reason as to why this phone was removed from the program, as users of the bootloader unlock suffered no ill effects.
This petition is being put forth to both HTCdev and Verizon Wireless to request that the HTC [Droid] Incredible 4G LTE be reinstated into the unlockable bootloader program. Support of open development drives innovation and sales. HTC's software developers can learn from the developer community while Verizon Wireless can benefit from end-users upgrading/renewing their plans to take advantage of this new phone. Furthermore, this simple act would incline users to recommend both HTC products and Verizon Wireless service in the future.
Inclusion of the HTC Incredible 4G LTE into HTCdev's unlockable bootloader program is in the best interest of HTC, Verizon Wireless, and end-users. Please take action on this matter as soon as possible.
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That is well put. I would gladly sign that petition.
IceDragon59 said:
That is well put. I would gladly sign that petition.
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Agreed. This is similar to the letter I wrote to the regional prez for VZW covering South Carolina. Granted mine was 3 pages long and covered individual issues I've had with VZW. Of course I never got a reply.
Signed. Recived another letter from Verizon that was the exact one I recived before.
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Signed
Op updating
The several posts that were deleted were on-topic and showed contribution from the community to writing/revising this petition, I don't see why they were removed. This also eliminated the possibility of thanking users for various contributions. I'm new to posting on XDA, and now I'm missing out on any opportunity to add to my thanks meter.
The OP's petition still retains the old petition letter below the description. I initially thought these would be non-editable so I created a separate petition (really, I'm surprised that a petition author can change the letter AFTER signatures have been added, but change.org seems to allow this). I now see that the OP can in fact edit all aspects of the petition (except maybe the url), and so users should sign that when it is completely updated.
signed.
but should it say "HTC and Verizon" not "an" ?
Guys please read the op over again. I currently stated that some posts would be deleted, it's in order to show who signed an has heard back from either company.
I will be adding to the op who has helped an stuff, just please bare with me on this. I have a lot going on with xda.
Here is what i Got from VZW. I talked to Scott today and he offered me a different device saying that the letter states VZW's stance on the bootloader being unlocked. He actually started the offer with a Galaxy S3 and I said Rezound if I was going to do that. It was for a certified used device with cover and battery. He said my plan and everything would stay the same. He gave me until Friday for the offer.
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Here is what i Got from VZW. I talked to Scott today and he offered me a different device saying that the letter states VZW's stance on the bootloader being unlocked.
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BULLCRAP!!!
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aldo101t said:
bullcrap!!!
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sounds to me like we'll never get unlock. If this holds true
tjamscad said:
Here is what i Got from VZW. I talked to Scott today and he offered me a different device saying that the letter states VZW's stance on the bootloader being unlocked. He actually started the offer with a Galaxy S3 and I said Rezound if I was going to do that. He gave me until Friday for the offer.
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Did they offer you the S3 at upgrade price? Without losing unlimited data? In the letter I wrote to the regional prez for the Carolinas, I told them I'd be willing to pay for a new phone at upgrade price if I didn't lose my unlimited data, but haven't heard anything back.
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Did they offer you the S3 at upgrade price? Without losing unlimited data? In the letter I wrote to the regional prez for the Carolinas, I told them I'd be willing to pay for a new phone at upgrade price if I didn't lose my unlimited data, but haven't heard anything back.
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He said it everything would stay the same. No cost was explained.
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I deleted all the stuff, in trying to keep updated from users in the thread. I will be adding to the op on xda, who helped an stuff.
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I just want to make sure that you realize the petition isn't completely updated. Please take no offense, I just want people to have a petition they are comfortable signing (myself included),
1) Other users have mentioned the use of "an" in place of "and"; these are two very different words. I hope you'll reconsider this habit in the future.
2) The letter just beneath the description of the petition still contains the old petition's text: "HTC an Verizon are abusing their abilities...". I'm very uncomfortable signing the petition with this letter still in place.
3) The paragraph breaks are missing from the letter. The breaks help emphasize different points and are appropriate.
4) When introducing HTCdev, it would be best to first list the name, then follow with the web address. In the first paragraph, replace "http://www.htcdev.com" with "HTCdev (htcdev.com)".
Please realize that we are trying to petition some very large corporations. Professionalism is a must if we expect to be taken seriously. Attacks on their name or reputation are only going to guarantee non-response. Poor grammar and structure will also leave our petition ignored. HTC and Verizon Wireless will have a more difficult time combating reason and intellect, and for this I think the community should strive.
I copied everything you posted in the pm. I'm not obligated to do this for y'all, I'm trying to help out. This will be updated when I have the time. If you want to start your own be my guest. Don't get mad or something with me, when I'm busy doing stuff around xda an in my life.
Honestly you should be glad, that I'm doing this for you guys. I don't mind a little nudge here or there to fix stuff. Just don't badger me over stuff.
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I copied everything you posted in the pm. I'm not obligated to do this for y'all, I'm trying to help out. This will be updated when I have the time. If you want to start your own be my guest. Don't get mad or something with me, when I'm busy doing stuff around xda an in my life.
Honestly you should be glad, that I'm doing this for you guys. I don't mind a little nudge here or there to fix stuff. Just don't badger me over stuff.
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fixed.
Been there done that all bull****
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The Archangel said:
I copied everything you posted in the pm. I'm not obligated to do this for y'all, I'm trying to help out. This will be updated when I have the time. If you want to start your own be my guest. Don't get mad or something with me, when I'm busy doing stuff around xda an in my life.
Honestly you should be glad, that I'm doing this for you guys. I don't mind a little nudge here or there to fix stuff. Just don't badger me over stuff.
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did someone in our community ask you to make the petition?
If not.. you did this on your on time and doing.
so we would like to be taken seriously, no on is putting you down, I've had issues with mdmower, but I have to agree with the polite way he approached you about the petition, but I found your response a bit childish in the manner you had let us know that you aren't doing this because you have to but rather YOU chose to.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate you and what you're doing.
but I don't NEED to be glad about anything that you are doing, so for you to say "Honestly you should be glad, that I'm doing this for you guys." is completely childish IMO and I don't agree with it one bit.
If you don't want to be bothered over "stuff" then why are you the OP?
I'm confused.
If it possible please ignore my actions last night. I was stressed out over my job interview I had this morning.
I'm sorry for the way I acted.
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If it possible please ignore my actions last night. I was stressed out over my job interview I had this morning.
I'm sorry for the way I acted.
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It's all good, no worries.
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Any other changes need to be made?
I have a Sprint LG G3 that I am leasing. I want to root it, but I do not know if it will affect me returning it when my lease is up. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks for the help.
EDIT to add more information: Most of the time when I talk to Sprint on the phone, they don't understand what I mean by rooting. Should I just say "Modifying the original software of the phone" or how would you go about it?
Historically, Sprint has been much less concerned about people rooting their phones than other carriers. But there's a thread here in the Sprint subforums that shows you how to revert to a completely stock, unrooted state. I would suggest doing that before returning it, just to be safe.
crizz23 said:
I have a Sprint LG G3 that I am leasing. I want to root it, but I do not know if it will affect me returning it when my lease is up. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks for the help.
EDIT to add more information: Most of the time when I talk to Sprint on the phone, they don't understand what I mean by rooting. Should I just say "Modifying the original software of the phone" or how would you go about it?
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Can anyone give me a more detailed tutorial on how to install this? The one in the thread isn't very good for people who are doing this their first time. Thanks!
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Did u get rooted and flashed? I saw where u had question about rooting.
Most of your questions are already answered on here. But for any question you have most members are helpful and dont just tell you to post questions somewhere else. These processes with your phone are daunting even for experienced folk. If something goes wrong it can be a $600 penalty. There are many who have helped me most dont even know they helped because they halped someone else who had the same problem i had. Meyerweb is probably who has helped me most throughout the years as i followed him with gs3. When i was looking at lgg3 i asked him about development before i purchased. If you need help post spicific questions about what your doing or trying. I will try to help
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One more thing. Dont tell sprint anything about root. There is no need for them to know. The warranty on your phone is now void. Dont mention modifying software or bootloader. I cannot think of a reason of using these terms with any carrier. And return to stock before u turn back in.
If you are leasing your phone i may have a different pov on rooting. My justification to rooting is i bought phone, own phone, will do to phone what i want. Its like buying or leasing a car. If you buy it you can paint it but if you lease it you cant turn it in with a yellow polka dot paint job. With that being said who am i to tell you what t o do.
crizz23 said:
I have a Sprint LG G3 that I am leasing. I want to root it, but I do not know if it will affect me returning it when my lease is up. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks for the help.
EDIT to add more information: Most of the time when I talk to Sprint on the phone, they don't understand what I mean by rooting. Should I just say "Modifying the original software of the phone" or how would you go about it?
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A friend who has good information explained it to me this way: They try to take a hands-off approach to it, unless one of a couple things happens:
The phone causes the customer to call in for support on the handset itself (i.e. not dropped calls or a cracked screen, but some difficulty in launching/running applications or compatibility)
A phone without a tethering package starts pushing 25gb/month of traffic, *and* the user calls in to complain about throughput. (bonus points if they actually mention that they don't have a tethering package and call for compatibility help on the wifi hotspot features)
Resolving some issue would require sprint to acknowledge that the customer has modified the phone, and implying their approval for that.
The customer states that they are doing something in violation of applicable laws or the service agreement. Please, don't do this. Support calls are recorded and doing anything other than feigning deafness would require the support tech to follow up on the issue raised. That blank stare is an act of courtesy, not ignorance.
My take-away was "root and code all you like, but make sure you know what you're doing and understand that the second you mention 'rooted' to a SPCS employee, you're gonna get a blank stare".
is there anyone working on a simple root method as of now since vs98512b ?
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is there anyone working on a simple root method as of now since vs98512b ?
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Don't think so.
I believe with 12 you can roll back still. That's the only option. And since it still works... No real need for anyone to work on another method. Sure it might be more convenient but putting the time and effort in might not be worth it just for convenience
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You can root at 10b. Install supersu and have it maintain root across otas. Then you can take all the otas and preserve root. That's what I did. Do not bump with twrp. You must keep the original recovery in order to take the otas. Once on 12b, you can bump but if a new ota comes out, you'll have to go back to 10b first.
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You can root at 10b. Install supersu and have it maintain root across otas. Then you can take all the otas and preserve root. That's what I did. Do not bump with twrp. You must keep the original recovery in order to take the otas. Once on 12b, you can bump but if a new ota comes out, you'll have to go back to 10b first.
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You should be able to restore a backup of the original 12B recovery and kernel if running stock Odex'd.
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You Might try This
str8boosted said:
is there anyone working on a simple root method as of now since vs98512b ?
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From another thread. Verizon G3 General, VS98523A OTA Release
Note that there is some discussion as to whether this is legit. I haven't researched it.
http://androidxda.com/download-root-genius
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From another thread. Verizon G3 General, VS98523A OTA Release
Note that there is some discussion as to whether this is legit. I haven't researched it.
http://androidxda.com/download-root-genius
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Yeah, @roirraW "edor" ehT said McAfee is flagging it as a Trojan, but that could be due to what it does:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59061762&postcount=84
Had my stock G3, downgraded to 10B, rooted with IORoot, added SuperSU with survivability... went to do the Verizon Hidden Menu and realized I had to take the 12B OTA again. And now, it says no updates are available and that my Software Status is "Modified". Might be stuck on this one. Got a meeting in 10 minutes, then I'll get back at it.
Wrong thread, my bad.
Smithfolk4 said:
From another thread. Verizon G3 General, VS98523A OTA Release
Note that there is some discussion as to whether this is legit. I haven't researched it.
http://androidxda.com/download-root-genius
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Update - this WON'T work with complete stock 12b. So, you will have to go back to 10b and root there, preserve root across OTAs, and take the 11c and 12b OTA to get 12b rooted.
Well I flashed back to 10b from 12b (via tot) and it wiped my imei number. Am I supposed to remove my Sim card or something none of the guides say anything.
I ended up using the imei converter and fixing my imei but I couldn't connect to 4G very well and it kept saying I had voice and data roaming. I rooted my phone but since the 4g wasn't working I unrooted it so the software status said official again.
I ended up taking the otas back to 12b and took it to Verizon and they gave me a new sim card and now it is working again but I want to root my phone and flash back to 10b again but I don't want to mess the Sim card up again. Anyone help?
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Well I flashed back to 10b from 12b (via tot) and it wiped my imei number. Am I supposed to remove my Sim card or something none of the guides say anything.
I ended up using the imei converter and fixing my imei but I couldn't connect to 4G very well and it kept saying I had voice and data roaming. I rooted my phone but since the 4g wasn't working I unrooted it so the software status said official again.
I ended up taking the otas back to 12b and took it to Verizon and they gave me a new sim card and now it is working again but I want to root my phone and flash back to 10b again but I don't want to mess the Sim card up again. Anyone help?
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take the sim out? smh
Yeah that's what I'm asking....none of the guides say to take the Sim out...am I supposed to. You took the time to quote my post and write a smart-ass comment but no straightforward answer. Guess this is is the reason I'm a long time lurker and never post.
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Yeah that's what I'm asking....none of the guides say to take the Sim out...am I supposed to. You took the time to quote my post and write a smart-ass comment but no straightforward answer. Guess this is is the reason I'm a long time lurker and never post.
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You've answered the question yourself. Supposed to or not, does it really matter? If you want to be sure nothing happens to the SIM next time, then by all means take it out. The directions don't say to take the SIM out for a very good reason: it's not required.
I've largely sat on the sidelines recently because all sorts of users who don't usually post refuse to help themselves by using the tools available to them, besides their brains and their eyes (and this part isn't directed at you): reading and the forum's search tools, are coming out of the woodwork and expecting information to be repeated ad nauseum. Or even Google, even if googling specifically for info on XDA.
There's nothing wrong with wanting help or asking for help, but it gets tiresome holding user's hands 1000 at a time on a daily basis. This is why I've all but refrained from posting my true feelings regarding all this demanding going on.
Maybe you don't deserve this whole rant but guess what? Like someone else I recall recently on here, you just happen to have been the straw to break the camel's back in my case.
99% of the time, if anyone...anyone at all has experienced something similar, it's been reported and you can find the information yourself. If you can't find the information, more than likely it's because the information isn't there to be had. Pure speculation here: I have no idea if others have taken their SIM out when flashing using TOT or KDZ method. I haven't yet, but I haven't once been able to TOT on four different PCs from desktops to laptops, with different cables and with different USB ports on the same PCs, under both Windows 7 and 8.
At this point I sincerely don't expect you to read all this because I am definitely on a rant, but if you do, good for you.
His answer might've been slightly smart, but your reply to him was downright rude and I don't think he deserved it. You, on the other hand, posed a question you can answer yourself. For god's sakes, try it! Try it with the SIM out and see what happens. Then you'll have your answer.
If you or anyone else feel you must direct any sort of response regarding this to me, PLEASE PM me. For anyone responding to this in this thread, I'll block you if I'm nice.
Sincerely: good day, take care, good night.
P.S. Maybe you don't feel the way we do because we are *NOT* lurkers. We do help people and take part of these forums for years and nearly each and every day. Nobody's forcing us to do so, but it does mean that we notice a lot more of the BS that comes from users who are expecting help.
AND I'M A LIBERAL EX-MILITARY!
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You've answered the question yourself. Supposed to or not, does it really matter? If you want to be sure nothing happens to the SIM next time, then by all means take it out. The directions don't say to take the SIM out for a very good reason: it's not required.
I've largely sat on the sidelines recently because all sorts of users who don't usually post refuse to help themselves by using the tools available to them, besides their brains and their eyes (and this part isn't directed at you): reading and the forum's search tools, are coming out of the woodwork and expecting information to be repeated ad nauseum. Or even Google, even if googling specifically for info on XDA.
There's nothing wrong with wanting help or asking for help, but it gets tiresome holding user's hands 1000 at a time on a daily basis. This is why I've all but refrained from posting my true feelings regarding all this demanding going on.
Maybe you don't deserve this whole rant but guess what? Like someone else I recall recently on here, you just happen to have been the straw to break the camel's back in my case.
99% of the time, if anyone...anyone at all has experienced something similar, it's been reported and you can find the information yourself. If you can't find the information, more than likely it's because the information isn't there to be had. Pure speculation here: I have no idea if others have taken their SIM out when flashing using TOT or KDZ method. I haven't yet, but I haven't once been able to TOT on four different PCs from desktops to laptops, with different cables and with different USB ports on the same PCs, under both Windows 7 and 8.
At this point I sincerely don't expect you to read all this because I am definitely on a rant, but if you do, good for you.
His answer might've been slightly smart, but your reply to him was downright rude and I don't think he deserved it. You, on the other hand, posed a question you can answer yourself. For god's sakes, try it! Try it with the SIM out and see what happens. Then you'll have your answer.
If you or anyone else feel you must direct any sort of response regarding this to me, PLEASE PM me. For anyone responding to this in this thread, I'll block you if I'm nice.
Sincerely: good day, take care, good night.
P.S. Maybe you don't feel the way we do because we are *NOT* lurkers. We do help people and take part of these forums for years and nearly each and every day. Nobody's forcing us to do so, but it does mean that we notice a lot more of the BS that comes from users who are expecting help.
AND I'M A LIBERAL EX-MILITARY!
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Lol you just took it too far...TLDR
His post was just sarcastic and I didn't know if he was 'smh' at the idea of taking out my Sim card or not. I've done my research and nobody agrees upon taking the Sim card out or not. I just don't want to **** up my phone again. I've rooted unlocked flash Roms and gone the whole nine yards on my G2. I am not at all new to this.
Guess I was just hoping someone had a plain answer instead of long paragraphs saying why they are so butthurt.
Toodaloo.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You've answered the question yourself. Supposed to or not, does it really matter? If you want to be sure nothing happens to the SIM next time, then by all means take it out. The directions don't say to take the SIM out for a very good reason: it's not required.
I've largely sat on the sidelines recently because all sorts of users who don't usually post refuse to help themselves by using the tools available to them, besides their brains and their eyes (and this part isn't directed at you): reading and the forum's search tools, are coming out of the woodwork and expecting information to be repeated ad nauseum. Or even Google, even if googling specifically for info on XDA.
There's nothing wrong with wanting help or asking for help, but it gets tiresome holding user's hands 1000 at a time on a daily basis. This is why I've all but refrained from posting my true feelings regarding all this demanding going on.
Maybe you don't deserve this whole rant but guess what? Like someone else I recall recently on here, you just happen to have been the straw to break the camel's back in my case.
99% of the time, if anyone...anyone at all has experienced something similar, it's been reported and you can find the information yourself. If you can't find the information, more than likely it's because the information isn't there to be had. Pure speculation here: I have no idea if others have taken their SIM out when flashing using TOT or KDZ method. I haven't yet, but I haven't once been able to TOT on four different PCs from desktops to laptops, with different cables and with different USB ports on the same PCs, under both Windows 7 and 8.
At this point I sincerely don't expect you to read all this because I am definitely on a rant, but if you do, good for you.
His answer might've been slightly smart, but your reply to him was downright rude and I don't think he deserved it. You, on the other hand, posed a question you can answer yourself. For god's sakes, try it! Try it with the SIM out and see what happens. Then you'll have your answer.
If you or anyone else feel you must direct any sort of response regarding this to me, PLEASE PM me. For anyone responding to this in this thread, I'll block you if I'm nice.
Sincerely: good day, take care, good night.
P.S. Maybe you don't feel the way we do because we are *NOT* lurkers. We do help people and take part of these forums for years and nearly each and every day. Nobody's forcing us to do so, but it does mean that we notice a lot more of the BS that comes from users who are expecting help.
AND I'M A LIBERAL EX-MILITARY!
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Lol you just took it too far...TLDR
His post was just sarcastic and I didn't know if he was 'smh' at the idea of taking out my Sim card or not. I've done my research and nobody agrees upon taking the Sim card out or not. I just don't want to **** up my phone again. I've rooted unlocked flash Roms and gone the whole nine yards on my G2. I am not at all new to this.
Guess I was just hoping someone had a plain answer instead of long paragraphs saying why they are so butthurt.
Toodaloo.
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Guess I just like to be sure what I'm doing is what I should be doing and won't mess up my phone..I apologize for any curt responses as I can't afford for any mistakes..
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Yeah that's what I'm asking....none of the guides say to take the Sim out...am I supposed to. You took the time to quote my post and write a smart-ass comment but no straightforward answer. Guess this is is the reason I'm a long time lurker and never post.
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You asked a really dumb question, so I posted I really dumb answer, if you took it as smart arse, ohh well.
Toasting a SIM is pretty rare that's why it's not instructed to do. If it's happening to you, what do you think you should do, leave it In and keep frying them? No, you should take it out, because you have proven you are one of the rare ones this happens to.
I mean, really, if you walk into traffic and get hit by a car, should you coninue to walk into traffic? Only if you want to keep getting hit by cars.
See, if I really wanted to post a smart arse answer, it would have looked more like this ^^.
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You've answered the question yourself. Supposed to or not, does it really matter? If you want to be sure nothing happens to the SIM next time, then by all means take it out. The directions don't say to take the SIM out for a very good reason: it's not required.
I've largely sat on the sidelines recently because all sorts of users who don't usually post refuse to help themselves by using the tools available to them, besides their brains and their eyes (and this part isn't directed at you): reading and the forum's search tools, are coming out of the woodwork and expecting information to be repeated ad nauseum. Or even Google, even if googling specifically for info on XDA.
There's nothing wrong with wanting help or asking for help, but it gets tiresome holding user's hands 1000 at a time on a daily basis. This is why I've all but refrained from posting my true feelings regarding all this demanding going on.
Maybe you don't deserve this whole rant but guess what? Like someone else I recall recently on here, you just happen to have been the straw to break the camel's back in my case.
99% of the time, if anyone...anyone at all has experienced something similar, it's been reported and you can find the information yourself. If you can't find the information, more than likely it's because the information isn't there to be had. Pure speculation here: I have no idea if others have taken their SIM out when flashing using TOT or KDZ method. I haven't yet, but I haven't once been able to TOT on four different PCs from desktops to laptops, with different cables and with different USB ports on the same PCs, under both Windows 7 and 8.
At this point I sincerely don't expect you to read all this because I am definitely on a rant, but if you do, good for you.
His answer might've been slightly smart, but your reply to him was downright rude and I don't think he deserved it. You, on the other hand, posed a question you can answer yourself. For god's sakes, try it! Try it with the SIM out and see what happens. Then you'll have your answer.
If you or anyone else feel you must direct any sort of response regarding this to me, PLEASE PM me. For anyone responding to this in this thread, I'll block you if I'm nice.
Sincerely: good day, take care, good night.
P.S. Maybe you don't feel the way we do because we are *NOT* lurkers. We do help people and take part of these forums for years and nearly each and every day. Nobody's forcing us to do so, but it does mean that we notice a lot more of the BS that comes from users who are expecting help.
AND I'M A LIBERAL EX-MILITARY!
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Really, you can't get tot or kdz to work? I must have missed you mentioning that before, or I just forgot.
Not sure it would help, but on a previous device (i forget which) it would only flash on a clean pc, and only once. After one flash or try it would never work again until I re-flashed the pc. Really weird I know. I have a spare laptop I used so it wasn't a huge inconvenience, but no matter what I did, or sugestions I tried from the community, it just would not work until I cleaned the pc again.
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See, if I really wanted to post a smart arse answer, it would have looked more like this
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LOL!!
Really, you can't get tot or kdz to work? I must have missed you mentioning that before, or I just forgot.
Not sure it would help, but on a previous device (i forget which) it would only flash on a clean pc, and only once. After one flash or try it would never work again until I re-flashed the pc. Really weird I know. I have a spare laptop I used so it wasn't a huge inconvenience, but no matter what I did, or sugestions I tried from the community, it just would not work until I cleaned the pc again.
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I meant to specifically mention that KDZ works for me every time and on any PC. It's just TOT that always says waiting for connection. I've searched and followed at least four alternate sets of directions, even for problems I haven't had the opportunity to have, like TOT finishing with the wrong number. Tried unplugging and re-plugging, different versions of drivers and the TOT program.
I hadn't mentioned it anywhere so you're not going crazy. ☺ I do have spare computer hardware and considered trying it on a fresh install but I didn't feel I had much hope of that working. I had even thought about using Windows 7 32-bit or XP.
With your experience, now it makes me curious if it would work for me. I might try that next time just to see, whenever that may be. Thank you! I'll let you know either way what the result is.
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Unfortunately I found out too late that the Moto E 2nd generation (2015 LTE) purchased directly from Cricket Wireless comes with a permanent locked boot loader. It came preinstalled with Lollipop. Is anyone willing to work on a way to unlock the boot loader, maybe for a few bucks? If someone has already come up with a method of unlocking this phone, could someone direct me? I have been searching for weeks and come up empty. The closest I came was with Sunshine, but it couldn't with Lollipop installed. I have tried the ADB method but obviously failed and Motorola gives the device not compatible message when trying to unlock from their site (obviously) and now at a loss. If anyone is willing to help, I'd appreciate it.
I'm dealing with the same exact issue. It's been driving me crazy as well.
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I'm dealing with the same exact issue. It's been driving me crazy as well.
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I am glad I'm not alone on this, just hope someone is interested enough to actually try, and who knows, maybe even succeed.
You're definitely not alone. I've seen some interesting and possibly relevant posts in the Moto E section. Including a batch file that tries a bunch of codes. Unfortunately, it didn't work for me. But I'm still plugging away at it. I'm not a developer though, just a geek that enjoys trying to break things.
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You're definitely not alone. I've seen some interesting and possibly relevant posts in the Moto E section. Including a batch file that tries a bunch of codes. Unfortunately, it didn't work for me. But I'm still plugging away at it. I'm not a developer though, just a geek that enjoys trying to break things.
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Do you have the link to the file? I'd love to try. Stupid thing with Sunshine is it passed the Percheron's but because it has lollipop installed, it has to be rooted first to unlock.
I tried sunshine too, lemme find the link
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Here's a link to the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54882427
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I tried sunshine too, lemme find the link
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Here's a link to the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54882427
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Thanks TheWeirdedOne, I am giving it a shot right now, it appears that it is going to be a long brute force process, still faster than if I tried to guess.
Lemme know your results, please. I need to run it again overnight, I didn't get very far when I tried (needed the phone). So I'm going to try again as well.
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Lemme know your results, please. I need to run it again overnight, I didn't get very far when I tried (needed the phone). So I'm going to try again as well.
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Yea, I needed my phone, I was only able to try for a few hours, no luck yet. From what I can tell, it appears the code is in hex, wouldn't it be easier to broot force by incrementing the value by one. Only thing is we'd need to know for sure is how many characters long it should be. I'd think this would be faster than randomizing, just my opinion. Also with that tool, what prevents it from trying some of the same codes? I really hope someone with real knowledge would respond and help out, but I am not about to demand it or annoy anyone.
I hear ya. I believe it's a 20 digit code. The guy that made it just basically randomized the numbers in the list. I highly doubt it would actually work. So we sit and wait patiently. Someone will eventually crack it, even At&t might, at some point allow for the bootloader to be unlocked. Until then, we just sit and wait lol
If it is a 20 digit code, I might try a simple hex counter with this, but that still will take awhile for it to run. I wish Cricket would reveal the code for my phone.
You and me both, I feel like I got ripped off. This isn't a phone that was purchased under a contract. That's what bugs me. The phone is completely ours since we paid for it. We should have fill rights to do whatever we want to it.
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You and me both, I feel like I got ripped off. This isn't a phone that was purchased under a contract. That's what bugs me. The phone is completely ours since we paid for it. We should have fill rights to do whatever we want to it.
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Yes, I so agree, just wish I were smart enough to crack it or rich enough to rip one of these apart and break it if needed. Regardless, I'm open for suggestions.
This phone's price is subsidized by Cricket. If you want a fully unlocked version you can buy it from Motorola directly:
http://www.motorola.com/us/smartphones/moto-e-2nd-gen/moto-e-2nd-gen.html
I would like it a lot if the bootloader was unlocked, but I don't feel cheated.
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This phone's price is subsidized by Cricket. If you want a fully unlocked version you can buy it from Motorola directly:
http://www.motorola.com/us/smartphones/moto-e-2nd-gen/moto-e-2nd-gen.html
I would like it a lot if the bootloader was unlocked, but I don't feel cheated.
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I never said I felt cheated at all, I only requested assistance with unlocking the bootloader
Let's please stay on topic.
Anyway, I was wondering if there was a way to use odin to crack the bootloader instead of adb mode or rsd lite, you know like using Linux to crack windows , I'm already familiar with Odin as far as rooting a Galaxy Tab 3 is concerned. Im sure I'm just grabbing at straws right now.
Any other ideas with this? The script is unrealistic at this rate.
Resurrecting an old thread here, but I take it no one has yet found a way to unlock a Cricket Moto E 2015? Disappointing that you have to wait 6 months in order to have Cricket do the unlocking for you. I would like to root my phone but apparently that isn't going to happen any time soon! I'll keep hoping though.
Holly
post ur questions here
How unlock SM-G930P?
I'd like to know?
send me pm ill send u instructions there
Deleted, so I don't contribute to help form anyone's opinions. And if anyone see's my old posts in a quoted response, I'm here saying that I was wrong and I had no proof of and rule breaking here on XDA.
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Im dying for a solution here. Please do tell.
i m not giving solution just can do via usb over network
Why is this thread not deleted? It's obvious BS in this community we share information freely, not via PM.
u just need to install flexihub and teamviewer what else information you need?
My apologies to the OP. I was unaware of the details involved to achieve the unlocking of the sim. So here im admitting to my jumping to conclusions and being a asshole. You would think with how long I've been here on XDA that I would know better than to be so judgmental. So I'm sorry to the OP for opening my big mouth. My bad bro.
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^^^^^ this.. I tried to pm the OP and he told me I had to install all this crap via "TeamViewer" and something else on my computer, then i had to install skype or some other application all just to get some instructions from this person. I mean, why can't you just post the instructions here for everyone to see, and use? My having to go install all that crap on my computer, in an attempt to get your so called directions makes me not trust you. Why do you gotta be so God damn shady?
Anyways, im not wasting anymore of my time looking at your stupid/uninformitive thread. Im just wasting my time and bumping this worthless thread. Smh
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It's also complete BS I have learned it's actually impossible to get a Sprint S7 unlocked anyway besides on the Sprint side. So unless this guy is hacking Sprints servers he is scamming people.
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What is this, another advertisement (wolf) in sheeps clothing? Only telling you how in pm's so they can charge you $$$ without their thread getting deleted by the mods, instead of posting the instructions here for everyone to see? Seems sketchy to me... what do you think mods???
I mean, if im wrong please forgive me but the op not posting the instructions here tells me their hiding something??? OP, and thoughts?
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Why is this thread not deleted? It's obvious BS in this community we share information freely, not via PM.
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^^^^^ this.. I tried to pm the OP and he told me I had to install all this crap via "TeamViewer" and something else on my computer, then i had to install skype or some other application all just to get some instructions from this person. I mean, why can't you just post the instructions here for everyone to see, and use? My having to go install all that crap on my computer, in an attempt to get your so called directions makes me not trust you. Why do you gotta be so God damn shady?
Anyways, im not wasting anymore of my time looking at your stupid/uninformitive thread. Im just wasting my time and bumping this worthless thread. Smh
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It's also complete BS I have learned it's actually impossible to get a Sprint S7 unlocked anyway besides on the Sprint side. So unless this guy is hacking Sprints servers he is scamming people.
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To perform certain functions (sometimes including SIM unlock), you need a dongle or some other piece of hardware (most of which are expensive). Hence why the OP requires you to install flexihub, which allows your PC to access remote USB ports and, thus, remote USB devices. So, now that we are aware of what is going on here, please check the judgemental attitudes at the door, and if you don't want to participate in this thread, then you are free not to...
The OP is provide a service for free for the benefit of the community. Now, if this was not provided for free, then that would be a different story, and I would have shut the thread down long ago if I had proof of that.
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To perform certain functions (sometimes including SIM unlock), you need a dongle or some other piece of hardware (most of which are expensive). Hence why the OP requires you to install flexihub, which allows your PC to access remote USB ports and, thus, remote USB devices. So, now that we are aware of what is going on here, please check the judgemental attitudes at the door, and if you don't want to participate in this thread, then you are free not to...
The OP is provide a service for free for the benefit of the community. Now, if this was not provided for free, then that would be a different story, and I would have shut the thread down long ago if I had proof of that.
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Not in this case, I've confirmed with a sprint tier 3 support technician at a call center here in Portland. It's a white list on the server side. You can use all the hardware you want, do whatever you want to the phone without the sprint server authorizing ICCID unlock it's not happening. Period. So again this is a scam.
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Not in this case, I've confirmed with a sprint tier 3 support technician at a call center here in Portland. It's a white list on the server side. You can use all the hardware you want, do whatever you want to the phone without the sprint server authorizing ICCID unlock it's not happening. Period. So again this is a scam.
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You may very well be correct. However, I don't intend on choking off a thread that could potentially work until we see confirmation either way by someone who has tried the service.
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You may very well be correct. However, I don't intend on choking off a thread that could potentially work until we see confirmation either way by someone who has tried the service.
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You can do research to confirm Sprints new method of of controlling ICCID unlocks via the the server side. It's all out there. Meantime potentially our xda members could be getting ripped off.. Just saying. But hey what do I know lol.
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You can do research to confirm Sprints new method of of controlling ICCID unlocks via the the server side. It's all out there. Meantime potentially our xda members could be getting ripped off.. Just saying. But hey what do I know lol.
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Funny, because there's a user here on xda who has been unlocking Sprint HTC devices for a while now, and it has been confirmed by many others...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-one-m9/general/sim-unlock-thanks-to-gcprokey-t3166761
Like I said, you may be correct, and there may be something specific about the S7, but we need confirmation from a user here, not from Sprint tech support...
but i m wondering why people not posting feedback who got unlocked by me. i have other threads check if i have done scam or some thing with any one .
i m in such filed since 2005
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/member.php?u=199814
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It's also complete BS I have learned it's actually impossible to get a Sprint S7 unlocked anyway besides on the Sprint side. So unless this guy is hacking Sprints servers he is scamming people.
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Do you have any proof of your allegations? Because I didn't, and I deleted my posts cuz i had no proof that the OP had broken any XDA rules. In addition, until we see a user here on XDA that own's a galaxy s7 (Sprint) that says his process works or it doesn't work, we should continue to keep a neutral opinion and let the OP do his thing.
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but i m wondering why people not posting feedback who got unlocked by me. i have other threads check if i have done scam or some thing with any one .
i m in such filed since 2005
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/member.php?u=199814
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I have looked over your other threads and I seen no indication of you breaking any rules, or ripping anyone off, so hopefully you and I are good. Are you and I good? I went back and deleted my inappropriate comments and I apologized to you for my opening my big mouth.
As for the others not reporting feedback, if you in fact helped them unlock their phones, then they have a obligation to you to post their feedback, and if they didn't, then SHAME on them.. And did you mean to say that you've been a member since 2005?
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Not in this case, I've confirmed with a sprint tier 3 support technician at a call center here in Portland. It's a white list on the server side. You can use all the hardware you want, do whatever you want to the phone without the sprint server authorizing ICCID unlock it's not happening. Period. So again this is a scam.
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You may very well be correct, BUT until you, or someone else has any proof of the OP ripping them off, or scammed them using this service, everyone accusing the OP of scamming should keep their opinions to themselves, IMO.
And to the MODERATOR, perhaps you should delete some of my unneeded comments, just to clean his thread up a bit so my big mouth doesn't help form any bad opinions of the OP? Anyways, imma shut up now and stay out of the OP's thread, lol...
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Do you have any proof of your allegations? Because I didn't, and I deleted my posts cuz i had no proof that the OP had broken any XDA rules. In addition, until we see a user here on XDA that own's a galaxy s7 (Sprint) that says his process works or it doesn't work, we should continue to keep a neutral opinion and let the OP do his thing.
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I have looked over your other threads and I seen no indication of you breaking any rules, or ripping anyone off, so hopefully you and I are good. Are you and I good? I went back and deleted my inappropriate comments and I apologized to you for my opening my big mouth.
As for the others not reporting feedback, if you in fact helped them unlock their phones, then they have a obligation to you to post their feedback, and if they didn't, then SHAME on them.. And did you mean to say that you've been a member since 2005?
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You may very well be correct, BUT until you, or someone else has any proof of the OP ripping them off, or scammed them using this service, everyone accusing the OP of scamming should keep their opinions to themselves, IMO.
And to the MODERATOR, perhaps you should delete some of my unneeded comments, just to clean his thread up a bit so my big mouth doesn't help form any bad opinions of the OP? Anyways, imma shut up now and stay out of the OP's thread, lol...
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Nah i just mean im into unlocking and flashing since 2005, its only thing i do for living
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ANYONE NEEDING UNLOCKING, CONTACT @asadnow2k!!! Unlocked my phone with ease. I can now use my Sprint unlocked device with my new tmobile service. Very satisfied