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I'm thinking about rooting my G2, currently running 2.3.4. I plan on using the method shown here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
But before I potentially brick my phone, as I am a COMPLETE noob, I was wondering if there are any topic I should read first. Things that will help me understand what I'm doing and how to fix common issues I may/will run into. I did some searching for noob guides but they were all phone specific, and I couldn't find anything specific to the G2 for noobs. A dictionary of terms, for example, would be very helpful. Any and all advice and links would be highly appreciate! Thanks in advance.
P.s. Sorry if this was asked a million times. I did search, as i mentioned, but searches yielded 50,000+ results and not much help.
Generally IMO rooting is relatively safe, its more about what you do after rooting your phone where the potential to "brick" it comes about. I.E Flashing Radios ect..
There is plenty of guides going about the net for a whole range of phones, what i done when i decided i wanted to root my phone was read a few articles for my phone make/model and read them all again just to make sure i understood them as i was in a similar position to yourself with very little knowledge about rooting or flashing roms ect..
You should check out other sites as well as this one of course and find one that you feel you can understand, theunlockr.com (just browse the "how to" section for your phone) they have videos (But not all of them work) was a good one for me aswell as using google to look for videos. Another good site is androidforums and not forgetting XDA its self.
Good luck....
You are on the wrong forum. This one is for the HTC Hero GSM, you have a G2 aka Desire Z.
I don't know how I missed that Habarug. Mods please feel free to relocate to the proper section.
Your not the first one gonna contact some mods and ask if they can remove the g2 touch part of the forum name
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Okay. I posted my first ever question/request for advice the other day and, despite 79 views, I have had no response. Perhaps it was too dull for those who are more accomplished with all things Android and everybody assumed that somebody else would answer.
Perhaps within the morass of information on these forums the answers are already out there. Maybe, but who knows. In other forums people tend to at least say - look there for answers - and post a link to another thread. But, it has been Christmas and I guess we are all pretty busy this time of year - Merry Christmas to all by the way
So, I thought I would re-shape my question/needs here.
Could anybody give me, or at least point me in the direction of, a glossary of terms type of thing?
I need to know things like what does 'radio' mean? How does it relate to the 'flashing' process' , And any other terms which people take for granted as being blindingly obvious, but which may not be to those of us very inexperienced. This forum can be quite daunting, but still, enquiring minds wanna know
Any help, again, appreciated.
cargob69 said:
Okay. I posted my first ever question/request for advice the other day and, despite 79 views, I have had no response. Perhaps it was too dull for those who are more accomplished with all things Android and everybody assumed that somebody else would answer.
Perhaps within the morass of information on these forums the answers are already out there. Maybe, but who knows. In other forums people tend to at least say - look there for answers - and post a link to another thread. But, it has been Christmas and I guess we are all pretty busy this time of year - Merry Christmas to all by the way
So, I thought I would re-shape my question/needs here.
Could anybody give me, or at least point me in the direction of, a glossary of terms type of thing?
I need to know things like what does 'radio' mean? How does it relate to the 'flashing' process' , And any other terms which people take for granted as being blindingly obvious, but which may not be to those of us very inexperienced. This forum can be quite daunting, but still, enquiring minds wanna know
Any help, again, appreciated.
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I would've loved to answer but perhaps you need to be more specific on what you want to be answered
you said you wanted to have 2.3.5 on ur DHD,but that doesn't tell anyone what you are asking for,if you are asking us to find a ROM for you,or how to flash a recovery first,or how to flash the ROM !
You should have to provide us more specific data, phone, model, rooted or stock, etc. It is normal that why you don't get replies.
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droidiser said:
I would've loved to answer but perhaps you need to be more specific on what you want to be answered
you said you wanted to have 2.3.5 on ur DHD,but that doesn't tell anyone what you are asking for,if you are asking us to find a ROM for you,or how to flash a recovery first,or how to flash the ROM !
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HI, and thank you. Also apologies for my woolly question. And this is kind of my problem. When new to this even the questions I want answered are not always asked correctly. I was hoping to find a ROM for my Desire HD which has Sense 3.0. I have Gingerbread on the phone currently with Sense 2.1.
To be completely humble and honest, which I find to be the best way in almost all cases, I must say that I am not even sure what "how to flash a recovery" means, or "how to flash the ROM".
So, as you see, I am really new to this and feeling my way around. I am a quick learner though so I really just need bringing up to speed on a few of the basics and then I am sure I will be able to research my way around.
Anyway, thank you for your kind reply. I wasn't trying to be shirty with my post. I meant what I said - it is Christmas and I am sure people look in over the holidays but it is a busy time for everybody. I hope I have not caused offence.
Can I contact you on your email,i find that more easily accessible!
What's your email id?
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cargob69 said:
HI, and thank you. Also apologies for my woolly question. And this is kind of my problem. When new to this even the questions I want answered are not always asked correctly. I was hoping to find a ROM for my Desire HD which has Sense 3.0. I have Gingerbread on the phone currently with Sense 2.1.
To be completely humble and honest, which I find to be the best way in almost all cases, I must say that I am not even sure what "how to flash a recovery" means, or "how to flash the ROM".
So, as you see, I am really new to this and feeling my way around. I am a quick learner though so I really just need bringing up to speed on a few of the basics and then I am sure I will be able to research my way around.
Anyway, thank you for your kind reply. I wasn't trying to be shirty with my post. I meant what I said - it is Christmas and I am sure people look in over the holidays but it is a busy time for everybody. I hope I have not caused offence.
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Please read before you do anything at all. From your posts it is plain you are very new to Modding so it is very important you understand what your doing as it void your warrenty and if done wrong can brick your device. Start with the stickies in the DHD section and read those a couple of times. Then check the Q&A and read there as well.
As mentioned, read the stickies in your section, there should be a lot of information there. In my device's subfora, there are great stickies chocked full of information. If we had the same device, I'd post some links for you. There's also a glossary of sorts stickied in the Thunderbolt section. Not everything in it will apply to your device but it may help with some general terms.
Before I even rooted my device, I read all of the stickies and recommended links. I then read over the Q&A and general subfora just to get a feel for it. What I read didn't make a lot of sense at the time, but later I remembered it and it made more sense. I then rooted my device, then read and read and read before flashing my first rom (CM6 - it was a while back).
It's a process, and the more you read the more you'll understand, until eventually you can start answering some of the questions that go unanswered. Just give it time... and make sure that you know exactly what you're doing - and why - before you jump in to something.
Good luck!
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Hi there Gauravgahlyan , and many thanks. I have dropped you a line via gmail - and you have helped indeed
zelendel said:
Please read before you do anything at all. From your posts it is plain you are very new to Modding so it is very important you understand what your doing as it void your warrenty and if done wrong can brick your device. Start with the stickies in the DHD section and read those a couple of times. Then check the Q&A and read there as well.
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Hi there Zendel.
Apologies for the lateness of this reply. Been a busy day. I wanted to say thanks for the advice and to also fill in a couple of blanks, if I may.
You are quite correct, I am very new to modding and my only fear is buggering it up, as we say in Lancashire lol. However, it has already been rooted by a friend who took me through the process over the phone some months ago.
When I first got the phone it was with Orange and had all that Orange junk and splash screen etc. Hence, my friend talked me through rooting and installing a standard factory ROM. It was a lot to take in and, at the time, I didn't make any notes along the way, which would have helped me now - hindsight is a wonderful thing, as they say.
More recently he pointed me at a link to a RUU (is that right?) so that I could upgrade from Froyo 2.2 to Gingerbread 2.3.3 with Sense 2.1 - so, in a nutshell, void warranty is no longer a concern
I have taken a look at some of the stickies, though I have not studied them intensely at this point. I will spend more time looking however and come back, perhaps, with more questions - or at least more relevant questions I should hope
plainjane said:
As mentioned, read the stickies in your section, there should be a lot of information there. In my device's subfora, there are great stickies chocked full of information. If we had the same device, I'd post some links for you. There's also a glossary of sorts stickied in the Thunderbolt section. Not everything in it will apply to your device but it may help with some general terms.
Before I even rooted my device, I read all of the stickies and recommended links. I then read over the Q&A and general subfora just to get a feel for it. What I read didn't make a lot of sense at the time, but later I remembered it and it made more sense. I then rooted my device, then read and read and read before flashing my first rom (CM6 - it was a while back).
It's a process, and the more you read the more you'll understand, until eventually you can start answering some of the questions that go unanswered. Just give it time... and make sure that you know exactly what you're doing - and why - before you jump in to something.
Good luck!
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Many thanks PlainJane - I shall go there now
Just seen this browsing threw the web and was wondering since stated amaze wanted to know what you guys think about this anyone willing to try?
http://www.androidauthority.com/roo...pire-incredible-with-htc-super-tool-v3-41701/
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Just seen this browsing threw the web and was wondering since stated amaze wanted to know what you guys think about this anyone willing to try?
http://www.androidauthority.com/roo...pire-incredible-with-htc-super-tool-v3-41701/
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search, it's been discussed already.
Rule numero uno, search, search and then search some more.
I wish u gave me a useful answer other than the usual flaming....i didnt see any thread other than mikes and it only got one reply maybe something new came of it..
HTC tool unlocks the phone, however does not provide S-off for us. From my understanding there are developer versions of the Amaze running around and the only person I have seen with one is Xboarder. Not really that big of a deal I guess because Xboarder has a kernel flashing tool you can find in the development section.
Im aware of X's kernel flashing tool but S-off will make all our lives a lil easier...
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Im aware of X's kernel flashing tool but S-off will make all our lives a lil easier...
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Yeah, it would. But at least we have something until someone figures it out. I got my Linux for Dummies book ready to go!
RobbyRob said:
I got my Linux for Dummies book ready to go!
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i need one of those lol
HigherSensation said:
I wish u gave me a useful answer other than the usual flaming....i didnt see any thread other than mikes and it only got one reply maybe something new came of it..
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Wow, your a sensitive one aren't ya. I was not flaming you, the info was relevant. If you had used the search function you would have found the thread discussing this bit of software your asking about.
I found on the first try using, wait for it......"htc super tool" in the search function.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413787&highlight=htc+super+tool
There is your useful information, have a nice day!
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I found on the first try using, wait for it......"htc super tool" in the search function.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413787&highlight=htc+super+tool
There is your useful information, have a nice day!
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I'm fully aware of using the search function and mike's thread but since he's not active in this forum I was wondering if anything new came of it..Thanks for pointing out the obvious tho..p.s i did see the link in mike's thread also but who wants to read threw 104 page's when a simple answer is all we needed.
Binary please close thread.
what was the point of this thread?
teflon252 said:
what was the point of this thread?
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no point at all, all the information the OP is seeking is already available elsewhere.
HigherSensation said:
I wish u gave me a useful answer other than the usual flaming....i didnt see any thread other than mikes and it only got one reply maybe something new came of it..
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Seriously? You didn't see the thread that said
Everything S-OFF - Think tank, General information, Q&A
So I am guessing you didn't see the part where it says:
There is no way to get S-OFF on a normal S-ON phone now.
You don't actually need to search. It's a sticky at the top of the Development section.
That includes the HTC Supertool.
It took me literally ten seconds to find the post you were referring to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413787
And the post #2 looks very familiar. Guess what? Nothing has changed or else we wouldn't have the other posts asking for s-off. Would we? I'm not trying to be harsh but this is why people get flamed. I'm not flaming you but instead I'm educating you. If I already posted an answer in that thread... did you really feel that need to start another exact same thread? And did you honestly expect a different answer??? Think about how frustrating that is for me that has been spending hundreds of hours trying to get us s-off. Just take it into consideration next time.
However if you had searched for the term "Amaze s-off" you would have been presented with the following:
[Q] HTC.com dev unlock vs. S-Off in Amaze
[TOOL] Easy Perm Root One Click for 1.36 or earlier devices only (granted that it's not very helpful)
[Q] How to S=off on U.S version T-mobile
Everything S-OFF - Think tank, General information, Q&A
Any progress on S-off?
But you just stated "i didnt see any thread other than mikes"
How is that even possible??? What did you search for to NOT get any of the posts above??? I'm puzzled as to how you couldn't find them.
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Binary please close thread.
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Not yet... I want to get an answer from the OP.
You know, if the first response had been "no it wont work" this whole thread would have over in 2 posts.
marleyfan61 said:
You know, if the first response had been "no it wont work" this whole thread would have over in 2 posts.
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Where is the fun in that
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marleyfan61 said:
You know, if the first response had been "no it wont work" this whole thread would have over in 2 posts.
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It's never going to be that easy because there will be another one exactly like this next week. It has to be a couple pages long to look serious enough for some one to read the first post.
Binary i researched all the other links after posted the thread i was just curious if anything ever came of it.Obviously it didn't because we would of all have s-off by now that's a mistake on my behalf everyone's always so hostile on this forum all it took was a positive answer which i thanked BobbyRon for.I'm sorry and will use this for future experience..
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Binary i researched all the other links after posted the thread i was just curious if anything ever came of it.Obviously it didn't because we would of all have s-off by now that's a mistake on my behalf everyone's always so hostile on this forum all it took was a positive answer which i thanked BobbyRon for.I'm sorry and will use this for future experience..
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And knowing is half the battle.
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It's never going to be that easy because there will be another one exactly like this next week. It has to be a couple pages long to look serious enough for some one to read the first post.
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Binary I respect your insight and your efforts here in this forum. There have been numerous posts recently speaking to the hostility and lack of basic decency here in the Amaze forum. I never experienced anything like this in the Hero forum. All I'm saying is that if people simply answer a question rather than "flame the noob" then this forum would be a whole lot better for it. It also would result in more useful hits coming up for people actually using the search button since the answers would be more plentiful. Flaming and rickrolling helps nobody.
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Binary i researched all the other links after posted the thread i was just curious if anything ever came of it.Obviously it didn't because we would of all have s-off by now that's a mistake on my behalf everyone's always so hostile on this forum all it took was a positive answer which i thanked BobbyRon for.I'm sorry and will use this for future experience..
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Look at it this way: If everyone, noobs and non-noobs alike read from the top down, 95% of all question would be answered within the sticky before a new thread is ever created.
I agree that flamimg is counter productive, but the frustrations of the mod is well warranted. He's the one who has to clean up the mess.....
So I'd been around the forums and looking here and there trying to collect as much information as possible on going about flashing the ROM on this phone, and I can't help but become baffled by walls of text filled with links to other pages and tons of software to download. It's overwhelming to say the least. I don't remember my last Android phone ever being this much of a pain to get the process done and over with.
I'm sorry if I come off as a very lazy person, but I look at the General forums for this phone and there's like five different guides for like multiple variations of this L9 model. I find it baffling that all these phones share the same space honestly. It makes this all so confusing for me to just figure out what to do and what not to do in all this. What information is reliable and what is outdated.
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So I'd been around the forums and looking here and there trying to collect as much information as possible on going about flashing the ROM on this phone, and I can't help but become baffled by walls of text filled with links to other pages and tons of software to download. It's overwhelming to say the least. I don't remember my last Android phone ever being this much of a pain to get the process done and over with.
I'm sorry if I come off as a very lazy person, but I look at the General forums for this phone and there's like five different guides for like multiple variations of this L9 model. I find it baffling that all these phones share the same space honestly. It makes this all so confusing for me to just figure out what to do and what not to do in all this. What information is reliable and what is outdated.
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Sorry you're frustrated. The L9 can be a frustrating device. It however is not a simple device to manipulate. However there is way too much information for me to cover in a single post. You will need to search for more details yourself. XDA pushes using their search feature before making new threads.
Obviously you must root the device and there are several methods around depending on the version of Android on your device. In order to install any ROMs your bootloader will need to be unlocked. That's the tricky part. And that's what most of the threads you are referring to are about. I cannot offer any advice at this time as to what road to take as far as unlocking your bootloader goes.
As for all L9 variants being in one forum I cannot address this. This structure is common throughout XDA. IE; There are almost a dozen variants of the original Optimus One. They are all discussed, managed, etc. within the same subforum. Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 subforum is the same way.
Best of luck in your endeavors.
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Sorry you're frustrated. The L9 can be a frustrating device. It however is not a simple device to manipulate. However there is way too much information for me to cover in a single post. You will need to search for more details yourself. XDA pushes using their search feature before making new threads.
Obviously you must root the device and there are several methods around depending on the version of Android on your device. In order to install any ROMs your bootloader will need to be unlocked. That's the tricky part. And that's what most of the threads you are referring to are about. I cannot offer any advice at this time as to what road to take as far as unlocking your bootloader goes.
As for all L9 variants being in one forum I cannot address this. This structure is common throughout XDA. IE; There are almost a dozen variants of the original Optimus One. They are all discussed, managed, etc. within the same subforum. Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 subforum is the same way.
Best of luck in your endeavors.
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Thank you for your reply. I guess I will have to further my research in these forums in order to fully understand the workings of this phone. But what you have typed helps me a good deal. My question becomes this, "Am I to root the device first to unlock the bootloader, or unlock the bootloader to root the device?"
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Thank you for your reply. I guess I will have to further my research in these forums in order to fully understand the workings of this phone. But what you have typed helps me a good deal. My question becomes this, "Am I to root the device first to unlock the bootloader, or unlock the bootloader to root the device?"
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Rooting can be, and I believe should be, done before unlocking the bootloader. With root you can at the very least install L9RecoveryInstaller_1.5.0.apk ( 2nd-init bootstrap recovery ) and then flash any of the prerooted CWM backups that are listed throughout the L9 forums. However, your bootloader is still locked. @kuma86 has made a themed stock JB ROM for P769 devices with locked bootloaders that can also be flashed with the recovery mentioned above.
Hello, Some poor soul posted (BELOW) this YEARS ago, and never got any help (other than the single, typical, 'go search' 'reply', NOT MUCH HELP when you DON'T KNOW THE FILE-NAME)
I'll just repeat what he said, it's the same thing i'm looking for. I just want 1080p video record on the device, I don't have time to learn another new technical speciality... I can only use official ROMS, None of the half-baked, home-brewed partial ROMS that come with lists of hands in the air, (i didn't do it) warnings of problems and bricking no thanks,.. (right?)
I don't know what 'S-OFF' means and it could takes months to find out here as the simplest of questions can go YEARS w/ no decent attention, I've never seen a forum like this one, One guy actually has 'I WILL IGNORE STUPID QUESTIONS' as his SIGNATURE.... There are no Stupid questions, only stupid Punks who hoarde info because the info TIDBIT (Small as it is, like their EGO...),, its the only thing they have to Feel Important...
I'm hoping this can be a simple double click, wait and done. It is an old phone I took apart, replaced half the innards and screen and now it works, it would be whatever original stuff it came with, I don't need any data on it...
THE POOR SOULS UN-ANSWERED REQUEST:
"Hi all. I'm new to xda. I have been trying to manually update my HTC EVO 4G LTE to Android 4.3, however HTC is no longer hosting the files. I was wondering if anyone knew where i could download HTC's software update?
It used to be here tinyurl.com/n279mpk
The link would download a 866MB executable. Thank you for any advice.."
As you can CLEARLY see, HE DOES NOT KNOW the name of the file, SO being told to Search is useless, NOTHING is EVER Explained Here,.. I find it PATHETIC that this community let that question lapse for YEARS with that single RESPONSE, SHAME ON YOU. HANG YOUR SELFISH HEADS IN SHAME. How is he, or Me or Anyone New, to EVEN KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE:
"SPRINT HTC EVO 4G LTE ANDROID DEVELOPMENT" Category, and the:
"SPRINT HTC EVO 4G LTE ORIGINAL ANDROID DEVELOPMENT" Category.... All Greek to anyone not ALREADY IN THE KNOW, HENCE THE QUESTION 2 YEARS AGO.....
So The NON-ORIGINAL category is What? New Ones? and the ORIGINAL category is for Original Copies of Official HTC Releases? OR Perhaps ORIGINAL, Means not ORIGINAL, BUT NEW? OR,... I certainly don't see any CLUES in the categories:
InsertCoin Sense, JEWEL CyanogenMod 12.1, PAC-ROM LP-MR1 Beta3 Weeklies,
NONE OF THIS SAYS:
HTC 4G 4.3 Approved APk 866MB executable formerly hosted at tinyurl.com/n279mpk (OR WHATEVER...) AND NEITHER SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD HAVE A LINK TO ANYTHING OFFICIAL!??!
SO WHY SEND SOMEONE BLINDLY TO "SEARCH" YOU THINK HE WASN'T SEARCHING ALREADY?
THIS PLACE MAN, THIS PLACE.... YOUNG INSECURE MALES HOARDING INFO BECAUSE IT BOLSTERS THEIR WEANING EGO AND NO OTHER REASON.
I NEVER SEE ANYONE GET ANY HELP HERE SO WHAT THE HELL IS THE DAMN POINT?
If there is a GOOD, Android 4.3+ UPDATE FOR STANDARD SPRINT HTC 4G, (NOT USED AS A PHONE, ONLY A TELESCOPE AND MICROSCOPE EYEPIECE CAMERA) That doesn't have strange 'rooting' (?) or S-OFF (?) Requirements then PLEASE, Let Me and the next 100 People to come here, KNOW !
Check out my HTC EVO 4G LTE Hboot guide in my signature. It has a lot of good info contained in it.
As far as updating to Android 4.3, there is a RUU available to do so. You can find it in the aforementioned Hboot guide, along with instructions on how to install it. The instructions can be found in the RUU section of my Hboot guide. The RUU is from HTC and does not require S-off or a rooted device.
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Check out my HTC EVO 4G LTE Hboot guide in my signature. It has a lot of good info contained in it.
As far as updating to Android 4.3, there is a RUU available to do so. You can find it in the aforementioned Hboot guide, along with instructions on how to install it. The instructions can be found in the RUU section of my Hboot guide. The RUU is from HTC and does not require S-off or a rooted device.
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Im in SHOCK.
THANKS! :~}
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Magnum_Enforcer said:
Check out my HTC EVO 4G LTE Hboot guide in my signature. It has a lot of good info contained in it.
As far as updating to Android 4.3, there is a RUU available to do so. You can find it in the aforementioned Hboot guide, along with instructions on how to install it. The instructions can be found in the RUU section of my Hboot guide. The RUU is from HTC and does not require S-off or a rooted device.
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Thanks! GOT IT! Thanks!
Glad to help.
Were there any other questions about definitions or specific help with the HTC Evo 4G LTE (Jewel)?
I'd be happy to help. Anything from "What is a ROM?" to "How can I post a patch to gerrit?" I have written a couple of guides in the past, and I have done work to make custom ROMs easier to build for this device (hopefully "answering" many questions for you).
Feel free to post here, in the different ROM forums, or message me.