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First of all, hello to everyone. I have been reading through a lot of threads here in the last few weeks after getting my HD2, especially the ones about battery life.
I have never owned a smartphone, so I have no comparison but I'm barely getting through 1 day of use when fully charged! And I'm not even using it that much yet, Wifi is off, no data transfers, just some texting and calls. I have installed Bandswitch and Battlog, didn't really help though.
Got the phone brand new (T-Mobile US) and haven't done any major tweaking yet, it's still pretty much stock with a few programs that I installed so far.
Do you guys have a similar experience or is it completely different? I love the phone, but if I dont even get through one day of use (and I want to use the phone in the future, not just for surfing but for music streaming or web browsing), I would have to bring it back.
Any help appreciated!
It's just something you have to live with, buy a spare battery, or the extended battery, flash a lighter ROM, adjust screen brightness turn off push e-mails etc etc.
I can get 2 days battery from very light use. i.e. a few texts and calls a day, no Wi-Fi, bluetooth or internet browsing. That's just how smartphones are.
So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
brutzel1 said:
So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
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Maybe you shouldn't have a smart phone? Battery technology is ****, it's a shame, but it's true. The only thing I can suggest is a spare battery, I carry one everywhere.
I generally watch an hour and a half of video a day on my phone, text, call, use the internet and I can still make a 9 hour day with 40%+ battery left, and just incase I am out and about in the evening before I have a chance to get the phone on charge I have the spare.
But with that said half hours charge from the mains will give you a good 30% topup I very seldom have to swap the batterys and I use a pretty juicy ROM.
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or maybe not
Given his kind of use, 2 days should be normal. Right now I'm squeezing 3 days out of this battery, and that's only because I swap it out when it's at 10%, otherwise it could be a little longer... and a few calls here and there is not the only thing I did with it... it's still my work pda after all
Since it's pretty much stock, unless it gets better with time (the first recharging cycles are the worst) and even after a hard reset it won't get better, it probably is something wrong not software related.
Install battclock and check the standby battery drain, shouldn't be much higher than 4mA, up to 7mA could be normal, any higher than that, especially if significant, and you've got something wrong, and found the cause to the short battery life.
First off, buy a couple of cheap oem batteries from here...
Now, these eBay batteries have performed slightly better than the original battery...
Some of us smartphone users are so used to poor battery life we have power charging cradles at home work and car just to keep the charge up... And have spare batteries every in case of emergency...
I take my phone off the charger at 6am to go to work... My avg day is 6-10 calls, 20 reminders, an hour of UNO, an hour as a wifi router and I return home at 5pm with 50-60% battery life...
they are trying to make batteries smaller and thinner so they can make the phones thinner and smaller so battery life is compromised. But you do need to give it some time to settle in.
Back up batteries and cradles to charge them are cheap and an easy solution. So are extra chargers to keep at work, in the car, etc. Most people can charge their phone at least an hour during the day and that should give you all you need.
The only smartphone that I didn't carry an extra battery for was the moto q9c, because it came with an extended life battery. But on these phones, that probably isn't the best option.
So what did you guys do to improve the battery life of your HD2? Are there any specific programs (I heared about G-Profile) you are not supposed to use or did you guys just deinstall all the T-Mobile Apps?
If I can just get 1 day of actual use out of it I am OK with that. I just dont want to have die every second or third day if I use more often than normal...
Any suggestions or may tests I could do? I feel like I could stream music on Slacker for about 90 Minutes and the battery would be dead...
EDIT: Just did Battlog for about 15 Minutes, my phone uses between 15ma and 31ma when in standby. So where do I start, how do I find the culprit?
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Mugen Extended-size High-capacity 2600mAh Battery for HTC HD2
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There is a 15% discount right now, better hurry.
Extra chargers and thats it! Now I browse, calls, emails, music, videos, TV stream (Slingplayer) and maximize all of the other features of my HD2 t9193.
Software and the end-user are the cause behind battery drain. I've got 2.5days out of moderate use so I don't think it's the hardware at all.
Methods for testing battery consumption and proof it is typically software related
Hi,
At the risk of looking like I'm trying to hijack this thread, I started a discussion on this particular subject a while ago as feedback on my finding after reading almost all the threads I could find regarding battery use on the HD2. Lude219 is 100% correct, the issue is always software related (yea, I know there might be exceptions to the rule) and my phone was a prime example of that.
See the thread below that explains how to measure your battery consumption, has logs and screen shots from users you have high consumption and also people who have systems where battery life is more than 48 hours so that you can compare your results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718173
Regards
I'm also sure it's software related. My phone would use app. 2% overnight with all connections closed. This i tested over months. Then suddenly without me changing anything drastic software wise, it pulled 5% per 3-4 hours. So after going thru all the cleaning routines nothing helped exept a good "ram cleaning" . Somehow or other the phone starts processes over time wich consume alot of power. One would have to look into it with a process manager to find out what exactly it is. WinMo seems to be quite sofisticated looking at all the running processes. So my view is , keeping the system tidy might be the only way to save the extra power.This is where the huge diffrence to other platforms seems to be, it can take quite a while until you have configured your phone the way you need it. I am useing the stock rom 1.66 German
thanks you guys for participating and sharing your thoughts.
But now, here is a thinker:
Last night, I let my battery drain all the way to zero and then recharged it at night. The only other thing I did was installing BSBTweaks and Touch X Taskmanager. I also changed my Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before).
And I couldnt believe what I was seeing, I took my phone off the charger this morning around 8.30am and now at 7pm I am still at 84%!!! I did not use the phone heavily but sent and received a few texts, made 1 call and played around with it for a little bit. Similiarly to what I did in the beginning after I got the phone, but then the battery had almost died at 7pm!
I am super happy and hope it stays like that but cannot explain why all the sudden it is that different...
Hi everyone,
This is a very usefull thread, for me it is, thanks to everybody that answered.
regrding the last post, a noobish quesition is
”Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before): how do i do this?”
I remember stumbling upon this setting the day i got the phone and started viciously going through it.
Somehow it didnt store in my memory the path i went that day so i can try doing what the man sugested.
So if anyone can lay a hand, much obliged.
Regards
i lost 12 pct over night in 9 hours with my radio turned off last night and only gmail and texts were open...
with battlog how do i do the test so it stays in standby? it keeps turning the screen on and off when i run benchmark
You may want to flash a new radio. Try a new one each day and measure battery life. I use radio 2.12.50 and have had a good experience.
yeah but with my radio turned off the radio shouldnt affect it shoudl it?
i use blackberry to stream pandora radio thru aux for about 8 hours a day and it still has 2 bars left after that.
HD2 just sits there and kills the battery lol
what kind of phone is that when you have to disable all its functions every time you dont use it?
seriously this is called unfinished product or poor design, that is beeing sold to customers as a next best thing.
you guys can argue with me all you want. i heard many excuses from users advocating the companies. such as. if you dont like this than pay more for a better product. well HD2 is a better product, its a 500 dollar phone damn it.
but you dont realize that even the "better" products suffer from same underdevelopment syndrome.
companies spend millions on consumer research and consumers spend millions on **** they dont need every year. cows eat grass, consumers eat garbage made by big companies.
where are the better products? they dont exist because it became "normal" to have a faulty OS or for your phone buttons to fall off, or battery to explode.
companies worked long and hard to make consumers get used to the idea that garbage is just a part of life, and worked long and hard to minimize costs of production, and cut corners.
which corners?
the final QA testing that is not beeing done by a company, so they can release the phone 3 months earlier, the consumers pay for the phone and test it.
we work for the company and we pay for it instead of getting paid.
the phone breaks oh how sad ,
company takes note(dont use this cheap glue or the buttons fall off, get a lil more expensive glue next year)
so they use better glue and cut another corner and we buy another "new and improved phone" and this time screen goes dim oh dang not again...and it continues.
do you disconnect your car battery every night so it doesnt die? or when you buy a lexus do you drive with your AC off because it cant pull the car around when ac is on same time as the stereo?
Hello all,
I'm currently a Samsung galaxy s2 user, just switched from using the iphone 4 because of all the rumors about the galaxy s2. And till now im impressed by everything it has to offer except its battery life.
I love my galaxy s2, but the only problem is battery life, and thats the main reason im being pulled over to buy the iphone 4s!!..
getting that isnt the problem..
I tried way too many custom ROMS, different kernels etc, but ended up with an average 6-7 hr battery life with heavy usage and that doesnt even involve listening to music while commuting. If i did that as well, im sure my battery wud barely last 5 hrs... which isnt ideal at all, im sure everyone feels the same way... Right now im on stock KI3 firmware, rooted. KI3 is slightly better than what bell gave me as stock - KG2.
now i want some strong points of why i shouldn't move back. I've been an iphone user since the 2g iphone and it was amazing!
Only if i could improve my battery life on galaxy s2 i wouldnt have these temptations to move to iphone again.
Should I move back to the iPhone?
no, galaxy s2 is the best !xD
my battery is very good so i don't care just try some kernels or roms
iPhone 4s is much better than SGS2 IMO.
Better size, better display (imo SAMOLED+'s colours are too cartoony), better resolution, better camera, better audio, much better battery and a much faster processor.
Also, iOS has proper dual core optimizations and actually makes good use of the A5 chip, wheras with SGS2, you'll have to wait for a stable ICS rom comes out.
Despite the negativity of the i4s, I personally think it'll be one of the most underrated phones this year.
But that's just my opinion.
My s2 often gives me 16+ hrs of heavy usage (my phone is from the first batch) my other half got a white s2 a few weeks ago and he has dreadful battery life. Both same firmware ect. Although mine is made in korea both battery and handset. His is made in china. Different colour mainboards too. Mines blue his is green.
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Well just to make the point clear, you will never get your sgs 2 to have as much of a battery life as the IP4S. iOS is simply much better at handling battery life than android.
Now it depends on what you want really. Do you value battery life over functionality/choice?
Personally what do you expect of a phone with a dual core 1.2ghz processor? If you expect 12 hrs now that is simply idiocy. You have a laptop that can do that? I don't cuz mine lasts 2 hrs with heavy usage. I haven't read of any laptop being able to last 12 hrs of heavy usage either. No I don't expect a laptop to have a battery life like that either. Now this is a phone with a processor better than most if not all netbooks, it is not going to have a 8hr+ battery life with heavy usage just like a laptop.
I feel your pain with battery life. Also, screen burn in isshowing its face on mine too. But threw iphone is waaaaaay too locked down to make it an easy choice.
Sounds like you dont have things set up correctly to me or your using some resource hogging apps.
Im on wifi all day, send between 40-70 sms a day, couple of phone calls, tweetdeck auto updating, around 20mins of music (well, podcast, but it is an audio file), auto updating of all my apps enabled in the market and the obvious hour or so web browsing and 10mins or so of minecraft when I sneak off for a break in the toilets and I get home with around 30%
Dont forget, your also comparing a closed up OS which has been around for a fair old while to an open one which is still reasonably new which each phone manufacturer has his way with before chucking the phones out
Im not going to fight the android corner as you admitted yourself you are 'looking for reasons to not move back'. Which sounds as though you have already made up your mind.
If you want to go get a shiny fragile phone with a half eaten apple on it by all means do Glad you've at least tried Android though, your light years ahead of 90% of Iphone owners who live around here lol.
must be something thats killing your battery in the background. I quite easily get over a day and between 5-6 hours screen on time. Longest ive had was 6hr 38 mins screen on.
Download better battery stats and see whats running in the background.
Lawl you all are missing a very important statement in his post. "HEAVY USAGE"
What is heavy usage? Web browsing, playing a 3d game, watching a video, recording a video, taking pictures, etc. So of course he is going to get 6-7hrs of battery life.
I agree with the above post. find out whats draining your battery. Shouldn't be that low...unless you are just sitting on your sofa browsing constantly because your so excited about a new phone like i was.
Also you can buy a dock charger and extra batteries set for cheap together (ankhers set) so you never have to plug your phone into a charger again
But it sounds like you have alot of money to burn...then why not...being in a locked system isnt so bad when your willing to just buy every app and media at premium prices and your happy with the interface
Thanks for the quick reply guys, and yes, i m loving my galaxy s2 as i mentioned earlier. And yes, im a heavy user, around 100 texts, playing 3d games (sandstorm, brothers in arms etc). I barely keep wifi on as i haf 6gb of data which is almost unlimited. and im getting 7 hrs, which apparently seems to be good. If thats the case then I have nothing to complain about...
And in terms of money, lol i dont have any... its just i could get an iphone if i sold this one... no way i could afford to keep both!
Stick to the SGS2 and wait for the SGS3 till then.
Hmm, If were I, I would like the iPhone 4S. The iOS 5's new feature iCloud and iMessenge really attracted me.
And can get many apps for it:
http://www.enolsoft.com/blog/best-free-iphone-4s-apps/
SGS2! iPhone4S is inferior in many many ways. It's a ****ty phone.
/ownership bias
u should wait untill the ICS rom is out. that should improve the battery life, because it will be customized to a dual core processor.
Iphone 4S is quite a good phone, but I'm personally against Apple's politics regarding software and price. I don't want Itunes, no format support like FLAC or MKV, no Flash. Also Android has more customization abilities in themes and menues.
I like the big screen and weight on the GS2. Well, the battery life could be better on SGS 2. But there's a Samsung 2000mah battery available at the moment and you can easily replace the battery.
I have been in the same boat in fact I have swapped my Iphone 4 for a SGS2 three times, until finally I realise that the SGS2 really is a SuperPhone.
The reason you will find battery life not quite as good as the Iphone4, is basically down to the fact the Iphone is not actually doing a lot.
I waited until iOs5 before swapping back to this truly, greatest phone since the HD2, iOs5 really is a disappointment to say the least, you get a pull down bar that kinda copies Android to a point, but fails in the fact with its Iphone basic-ness yet again, the weather links to the most basic of weather apps, the notification animations appear at the top all very nicely, but the top bar doesn't state that notifications are listed within, they tried to match the Androids version but in true Iphone style, didn't leave in the design to allow users to feel its their notifications.
One thing you will never get away from even jailbroken is the fact you are not free to choose...you will never own your Iphone, it owns you, Android on the other hand is the opposite and with the SGS2, its power and freedom is far more adaptable than the iphone4.
A friend of mine has received a brand new Lumia a few days back as a gift. This guy happens to be an iOS/Android developer, and he doesn't give a damn about WP7, so he asked me if i wanted to swap my 5 months old GS2 for his Lumia, because he thinks it has no use to him. Sure, i know that this one is a big deal for sure, and that even if i don't like the phone i'll have no problem selling it making some good cash. Anyway what i'm asking you here is how does it feel moving from a top Android to a top WP7 device? Did anyone do that? What's your experience about it?
I already have an Omnia 7 so i know that WP7 is a good OS, but i was wondering basically how good this phone is as a daily driver compared to my GS2.
What will you be using the phone for? Games? Mere surfing and checking Facebook? Work? First thing I noticed when going from Galaxy S (not the 2nd) was that WP7 was way more stable and more importantly, the battery is just a beast, 24h with no charging and still having another 12h on it, despite watching movies for 3h on it.
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What will you be using the phone for? Games? Mere surfing and checking Facebook? Work? First thing I noticed when going from Galaxy S (not the 2nd) was that WP7 was way more stable and more importantly, the battery is just a beast, 24h with no charging and still having another 12h on it, despite watching movies for 3h on it.
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Well i'm not really a heavy gamer, but i play some game from time to time. My usage is pretty average i guess: browsing every now and then, gmail and twitter syncing, whatsapp, youtube, a movie sometimes but that's rare. Sound quality doesn't really matter because i already have a Cowon, can't beat that anyway Basically i want a reliable and solid phone that won't die at about 3 p.m. every day with my kind of usage.
My network did not have the Nokia Lumia in stock when it came to the end of my contract a few days back, the next best this was the SGS2, I sold S2 online and with the cash bought an unlocked Lumia.
Its a really, really nice phone and is very fast, there are a few bugs (firmware related) and we have been promised by Nokia for an update in the coming weeks. If I were you I would go for it, I did, and havent looked back
I cant say about the SGS bit i switched to the Lumia from iPhone 4 and im not regretting. This Os is better than iOS.
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I did this switch my self, SGS2 to Lumia 800, and to be honest, best phone switch I've done. The phone just works and I think, despite the tiny bugs in the firmware it's still among the best phones on the market.
There's plenty of games for WP7 and the native apps other than that work pretty well.
Tho I do miss Opera Mobile/Mini on it.
There should be a thread somewhere (yikes) here that explains weak point and strong points against iOS and Android. For the phone itself it's beautifully made, feels like a real piece of hardware in your hand. It weighs a bit more then expected but hardly an issue unless you have real trouble carrying stuff
The audio quality for me at least is great but I know some people had trouble with it.
The battery life is magnificent, haven't done any real tests but it easily lasts 24h despite heavy usage.
Camera is good but I expected better for going full-out with "Carl Zeiss Optics.."; but it might just be me not having a clue how to point-and-click the damn thing.
I love this lil bugger but Ice Cream Sandwich looks pretty damn sexy as well. I think you won't be disappointed by either phone.
Ok, i think i made up my mind in the end: tomorrow i'll meet my friend and grab the Lumia
I'll report back my first impressions, thanks everybody.
If your not bothered about rooting or the customisation of android then go ahead , wp7 is a much improved version of iOS, just as fast and sleek but with menus and a better looking UI. I have a lumia given to me as a work phone. Not my cup of tea personally , wouldn't dare swap my gnexus for it but has good features as well. Build quality is top notch , decent camera (Carl Zeiss lens) , very nice screen. Down sides , poor customisation apps are slow to use , not the best app choice , no developer support and its a new os. Also because it has the funding of windows and this is one of the most important areas to the company then you know its not going to go web os way , you are going to have a phone with updates and a lot of services. (Nokia maps/music/zune )
My advice is if your looking for a iPhone because you like the way it works (simplicity etc) then the lumia all the way as it works in a similar fashion. If you appreciate the way android works (rooting roms customisation and the actual os) then keep your s2 as it is still easily one of the best phones on the market.
I'd stick with the s2 but if you got a lumia I would doubt you would be dissapointed.
Hope the upsides and downsides I have listed my help you a little
J
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Good choice. My colleague here has the SGSII and gets around 16 hours battery life and has problems with apps crashing and the os lagging/random reboots. No such problems with the Lumia and I get 24 hours with heavy or 36 hours with light use.
I bought a Lumia 800 few days ago but still can't get to 24hrs.. I tried the diagnostics tool and get a 1505 mAh full charge, so I have no battery problems, but still after a few hours of heavy usage the battery dies(90% of times wi-fi is off!!!), tips?
Define heavy usage and define "few hours". I watched movies for 2-3h yesterday and then went to sleep, woke up and fiddled with the camera and checked Facebook regularly until now, 45% battery life remaining. Estimated time remaining: 14 hours. Time since last charge: 13 hours
I have never seen "remaining time 13hrs" ;-) this say's it all!
Now I have 27% with 3hours left.. I never use wifi and i deactivated (i think everywhere) GPS localisation for pictures and stuff like that..
for Heavy usage I mean mail check every 15/30 mins, 5/6 web pages opened per hour and half an hour of games every 8/9 hours with medium brightness... I don't even think that this is "heavy".. with my Nexus S (SLCD) i can get to 40/50hours with no problems and with the SAmoled one I can complete with no problem 1 day (18 to 24hours).. Is there any option that I have to set to get my battery to last enough to go to sleep with still 10/15% left? thanks
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I bought a Lumia 800 few days ago but still can't get to 24hrs.. I tried the diagnostics tool and get a 1505 mAh full charge, so I have no battery problems, but still after a few hours of heavy usage the battery dies(90% of times wi-fi is off!!!), tips?
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Same, my L800 is about a week old now. Battery life so far is not very good and nowhere near the advertised or GSMarena's 35/40 hours.
Right now: 88%, 12 hours remaining, 3 hours since last charge. Rather high battery drain considering low/moderate use. 1529 mAh full charge capacity.
No crazy apps that are always on using data connection except WhatsApp. I don't use twitter, I don't religiously check FB and RSS feeds are on manual refresh since I am in front of PC most of the day. Some calls, whatsapp and a few emails during the day.
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Same, my L800 is about a week old now. Battery life so far is not very good and nowhere near the advertised or GSMarena's 35/40 hours.
Right now: 88%, 12 hours remaining, 3 hours since last charge. Rather high battery drain considering low/moderate use. 1529 mAh full charge capacity.
No crazy apps that are always on using data connection except WhatsApp. I don't use twitter, I don't religiously check FB and RSS feeds are on manual refresh since I am in front of PC most of the day. Some calls, whatsapp and a few emails during the day.
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At the moment I got 94% remaining and "Estimated time remaining: 1 day 6 hours".
Sounds like you have a battery bug of some sort.
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At the moment I got 94% remaining and "Estimated time remaining: 1 day 6 hours".
Sounds like you have a battery bug of some sort.
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I certainly hope it is a bug and the upcoming update fixes the battery issues for all. There appears to be a massive disparity in L800s battery life reports. Some people have the confirmed but where battery doesn't fully charge.
What is your drain rate in Diagnostics? Idle with screen on is between 120-135 mA with occasional spikes into 200+ mA. What is your usage pattern, more or less?
Doing around 185-200 mA idle screen on. Phone syncs to gmail/facebook/calendar, I check it about once a hour, at night I watch movies for like 2-4h and during the day I try out my apps that I developed or other ppl's ones.
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Doing around 185-200 mA idle screen on. Phone syncs to gmail/facebook/calendar, I check it about once a hour, at night I watch movies for like 2-4h and during the day I try out my apps that I developed or other ppl's ones.
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Yes, must be some kind of battery bug.
Doing some math (1529 mAh battery as reported by my L800) and battery durations as provided by Nokia and GSM Arena test.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/nokia-lumia-800-battery-test-now-over-see-how-it-did-test/
Hours Drain (mA)
3G standby 265 5,77
GSM standby 335 4,56
Average 300 5,10
2G talk 13 117,62
3G talk 9,5 160,95
3G talk (GSM Arena) 8,42 181,59
Average 10,31 148,35
Music 55 27,8
Video 6,5 235,23
Video (GSM Arena) 5,87 260,48
Web Browsing (GSM Arena) 4,12 371,12
The phone should last an average person 18 hours assuming a typical 8 am - 2 am day ...
45 mins talk (110 mAh drained), 2-4 hours web/SNS (800-1200 mAh drained) and say some music for 2 hours at the gym (50-60 mAh drained) ... that still leaves 10+ hours of idle drain of around 5 mA according to Nokia.
@SvanteH: You phone's battery life is simply exceptional but do you actually get 24+ hours of usage out of it or are you down to below 10% at the end of the day?
I usually charge it every alternate night + some hour usb charging during the day
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I usually charge it every alternate night + some hour usb charging during the day
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I'm jealous of your L800's battery life, trumps mine by a large margin.
[UPDATE] Unplugged at 100% charge and it said 14 hours remaining. Sigh.
Hi Brothers and Sisters,
I am opening this thread because i need some clarification on why we have so much battery drain on our x10 mini pros.
I have x10 mini pro, using nAa's kernel and rom (latest). I have seen lots of things in this phone and OS and they are working very good. but we all have battery issues and mine goes out soon as i start talking. it's like every 2 minutes or so the battery loses 1% of its juice. and using internet like edge network, or to make it even worse, hsdpa kills it instantly.
I ever thought that SE made the wrong choice of using its gsm communication chips for phones like these. because i see samsung and other rivals compete and they have good battery life even after a 1 or 2 hour talk.
And yes i know it all depends on the network coverage and how much signal strength is available, but the xperia series itself (old 2010 models) are much bad in this case. after i have a one hour of talking nearly 40-50% of charge is gone down. nothing like that happens if i listen to music loudly or play games or even read something. But using internet and calls make the big hit.
Resetting the battery stats doesnt make any sense. i have used at least all the roms here in the forum and i wonder, it ain't the rom's fault, it is the communication chip (i.e the gsm/radio chip) that is on board. That consumes the battery madly.
The matter continues on the newer series too. and they (even the mini and mini pro 2011 versions) have 4 hours talktime. what is going on?
Is SE using any flawed chips that are wasted somewhere?
Has anyone thought about this on what i am talking about? My phone is just one year old now. and everything is fine. except for this battery drain.
Has anyone have any thoughts about this matter? Please share it here if you like
This is just an open discussion, not a question and answer.
Hello, i'm looking to buy a new phone and the nokia lumia has caught my attention.
I've been reading about it and understand that we'll be seeing 2 major updates this year.
Will the lumia 800 support the new windows mobile 8 platform?
I expect it to support Tango, but what about Apollo?
Or should i just wait for next generation nokia?
No one knows the answer to that question yet. But if any current wp7 device is going to get that update, the Lumia 800 is probably it. It is almost a wp7 equivalent of a nexus device.
But if you don't want this phone as it is now, don't buy it ;-)
I'm just waiting for nokia to start pushing out the current firmware update to my Cyan... Still only got the 7740 firmware with 8107.79 OS.
What are your experiences with the phone?
Do the phones that sell here in Denmark also have issues with batterylife, random reboots etc.?
I'm experiencing pretty bad battery time now. Yesterday I had to charge it twice to get through a full day. That is unacceptable! My old X10 holds battery for a day and half easily doing the same tasks.
I hope Nokia is very very aware of these issues and is working their asses off to get it solved.
I bought mine in Germany back in November. Kept it on 2G here in Denmark until the update that fixed the battery issues (last update).
After that update I have kept it on 3G and gotten about one and a half or two days of battery life from it.
I don't know about the status of the battery fix in Denmark. They may very well be on the phones in store (go check ). I found the demo fw for Denmark on the fw site Nokia has.
BUT if you want the phone look outside Denmark.. They are horribly overpriced here.. Some places twice the price of the same phone in Germany or England.
Regarding update to Apollo.. I see no technical reason for lumia 800 not to receive the update.
Hahah slap af en dansker tråd
Translation: "For danes only"
Roughly the same story as jlor except I bought mine in Denmark. Like arkedk, I had very poor battery life on my first phone so I returned it. The new one has up to around one and a half day of battery life with normal use. Roughly the same as with the old iPhone 3GS. I think there is a very high error rate on this battery type.
And yeah, it must be pretty popular here in Denmark
Although I'm not so sure that I should have bought this phone.
Microsoft have confirmed that all current wp7 handsets will get apollo in a response to Eldar (aka the spaz idiot who sould be shot). Tango int going to be that big really just about adding more languages and cheaper hansets to get a wider market. Apollo on the other hand looks to be even bigger than mango
Thanks for them answers.
Definatly gonna get me a winphone one day. But i'll wait a bit longer until either a new version of Lumia 800 comes out or nokia/ms whichever it is releases a firmware that fixes all these issues. Battery and camera in particular.
I'll stick to my damaged htc hero for now
Gnarfsan said:
Although I'm not so sure that I should have bought this phone.
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Ok, I'm going to elaborate this a bit.
Why I am disappointed:
This phone is supposed to be Microsofts and Nokias big gamble to reclaim the mobile phone market. Nokia economic situation isn't very good to say the least but they are still the largest manufacturer of mobile phones world wide. However Apple is close behind and so is HTC and Samsung and they are gaining market shares.
So I had expected this phone to be Microsofts version of a nexus phone. A showcase phone if you like to benchmark other Windows phones against. In my oppionion they failed to do this by rushing it to the market. There are just too many flaws for me to be completely happy with it.
I read a lot of good reviews of WP7 devices regarding their battery life. It is supposed to lightweight and without the pletora of third party battery draining services running in the background. And it is. Many WP7 devices get great battery life. But this phone does not have good battery life. Hands down, you are not going anywhere over night with this phone without a charger. Even if you dont use it at all, you will still be cutting it very close. Even with my SGS 2 running overclocked at 1600 MHz I could easily go up to 3 days if I was mindful of battery my usage.
The camera is usable. It's not great but good enough if the motive is more important than the quality of the picture. But it's not going to wow anyone. I had expected more from Nokia though. I am used to Nokia cameras beeing the best on the market from previous experience.
Sound quality in the jack stick is an insult. It's horrible even if you have very low standards and it will hurt your ears. If you buy this phone, go to a Telenor store and get the black BH-111 bluetooth headset for 199 kr. It has a decent sound output if you throw away the earbuds that come with it and get some better ones. (The tranciever is detachable and has a mini-jack output and a build in microphone)
But there are some good things about the phone too:
WP7 is an absolute joy to use. I love it. I come from the SGS 2 and I did a lot of modding, exceeding 2 GB of custom firmware downloads each month. But I don't miss that at all with this phone, because everything just runs smoothly. I have had a few app crashes, mainly starting settings and the browser, but I can live with that.
I like the design and the build quality is pretty good although the buttons do feel flimsy on some devices. I am not too fussed about that though. The curves makes the phone nice to hold, but the 4 corners aren't that comfortable when you hold it for longer periods of time like 5 minutes plus. The curved glass is great though and it sits close to flush with the rest of the phone. The plastic feels nice when you hold it and looks pretty good too.
Call quality is pretty good in my oppinion and so is the antenna. I get better signal strength with this phone than I did with the SGS 2.
Bottom line: I expected a better device from Nokia. There is no way in h*** this phone will last for two weeks on stand by which is in fact what they claim on their web site and even if you call Nokia Care.
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Kuresu said:
I'll stick to my damaged htc hero for now
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Good idea ;-)
The batter is bad compared to other devices yes. My Xperia Play I could easily get two days out of. Even three. Even so I charged every single night because I want full juice at the start of every day. So the worse battery life does not really affect me even though I know it's there. The camera and audio is confirmed by Nokia to be adressed on future seperate updates that hopefully will fix the issues.
But whats the point really if the majority of the userbase are still complaining about bad batterylife.
I'd say camera/audio comes in second until the phone can last more than 24hours on whats supposed to be regular usage. I hope its faulty software and not hardware.
For all 3 parts, battery/audio/camera
Amen.
I'm not too optimistic about the battery issue being software related.
I agree the battery is very bad. I'm coming from a phone that used 1% battery in 3 hours standby time. With very minimal use I could use that phone for a week without charge but I charged it every night anyway. Coming to this is a world of difference.
I'm just saying that I can live with it.
With light to medium use I am getting one and a half days use on 3G. My LG 900 struggled to last 10 hours.
got this phone 3 days ago and experiencing absolutely retarded battery life. not getting more than 6-7 hours with MINIMAL usage and all chats logged off. WTF Nokia?
PS: My other phone is the Galaxy Note which has phenomenal battery life.
Im not from Denmark...but I am close enough
I bought the NL800 a few days ago with fw 11501, and have no problems with battery at all, and I am on 3g all the time, I play music, surf, update for email every 1 hour, and my battery last aprox. 1 and a half day..And that is what I would expect from this device with my use.
Only thing bugging me right now, is of course the brightness bug and the poor quality in music playback. But those are scheduled to be fixed, so if that don't take forever, then the NL800 is a keeper for me.
But on another side..the screen is a tad small, but I will get used to it...if not, I will probably get the NL900/910 or w/e they decide to call it in europe
Same as above, i have firmware 11501, and at first battery was bad. But the more i use the phone let it go right down and charge it seems to have been last longer. So far i have been using it for 15 hours. Listening to music, facebook, emails as soon as they come in. 3G, texts, facebook chat. I am a really heavy user just now as its the honeymoon period. But anyway, the only thing that is really annoying me is the camera and the audio. I listen to my audio with headphones on (Dr. Dre Beats) so i get the base im after. But it shouldn't take a £80 pair of headphones to get the audio quality im after. Nokia get an update out now!
my lumia will arrive tomorrow, and then i will test the battery life agains my radar and my titan, my titan's battery last for atleast two days with minimal usage. same goes for the radar.