With the recent update, is it possible that a new sim card (like maybe the one that works with Isis) would allow the tap to pay feature?
In order to use Google wallet, you need NFC, but not a different SIM card
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I was just chatting with Verizon, and asked why Google Wallet would not tap n pay, he said I needed a NFC Sim card. He is sending me one at no charge. What is the difference between the NFC sim and the NFC battery? Why was the S4 not shipped with a nfc sim? I am not even sure if this will work... will let you know.
Thanks! Keep us updated.
The SIM card that Verizon sends you is for their app that they use for mobile transactions, is is. You need a special SIM for that to work. For Google wallet, you don't need that. All you need is a NFL capable device and you are good to go!
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As with past experiences with Big Red I am not surprised that the customer service rep has no clue as to the actual service they offer. I have installed the new Google Wallet on my S4, with the NFC battery that came with the phone ( maybe someone can explain to me what the battery has to do with NFC? ). But I dont see an option to use tap n pay. I am rooted with Safestrap, and was contemplating installing the mod for GW, but now I see it has been abandoned. If I am missing something, maybe someone could point me in the right direction? I will get the sim that I ordered when I return from vacation, but I doubt it will have any effect. Would there be any other benefit from using the different sim card?
P.S. I would like to see this NFL sim card...
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As with past experiences with Big Red I am not surprised that the customer service rep has no clue as to the actual service they offer. I have installed the new Google Wallet on my S4, with the NFC battery that came with the phone ( maybe someone can explain to me what the battery has to do with NFC? ). But I dont see an option to use tap n pay. I am rooted with Safestrap, and was contemplating installing the mod for GW, but now I see it has been abandoned. If I am missing something, maybe someone could point me in the right direction? I will get the sim that I ordered when I return from vacation, but I doubt it will have any effect. Would there be any other benefit from using the different sim card?
P.S. I would like to see this NFL sim card...
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Since you are rooted and have SS installed you can install a functional tap to pay by 2 different methods. I have provided links to both methods below. The older method appears to be more stable. Hope that helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303325
Older method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454971
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If you look at the thread with Gw 2 they have abandoned it... GW 1 is still buggy...
I have been using the 1st version due a while now an it has been working flawlessly
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I am a Vibrant owner with all the Team Whiskey goodness. My sim card is about 5 years old. Is there any reason to get a new one?
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I am a Vibrant owner with all the Team Whiskey goodness. My sim card is about 5 years old. Is there any reason to get a new one?
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Same here. Idk.
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I think mine is coming up on 8 years old, still going strong!
I recently got my sim changed because Tmo store did it for free. I spoke to the rep about the advantage of changing to newer sim and he said that it will have new information about the tmo network, and that might improve speed. Also if your phone is getting delay text messages (few hours or days latter) then the new sim would fix it.
Mine old sim was 5+ years too and i didnt have any issue. If it free, why not!
Also ask the rep to keep your old sim in case you need a replacement sim. I think it cost about $10 for replacement sim.
No need to update the sim card. 6+ strong here. If you need a new one for any reason, do not go to an official tmo store. They will charge you $20. Your better off going to an authorized reseller. Preferebly like a target or walmart. A place where they dont really care and will give it away for free.
I actually still have the sim card that came in the box (still in the box). But When I got my Vibrant I just pulled my sim out of my old phone and put it in my Vibrant. I don't want to mess anything up but, would it help or hurt anything if I put this new one in my Vibrant?
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I actually still have the sim card that came in the box (still in the box). But When I got my Vibrant I just pulled my sim out of my old phone and put it in my Vibrant. I don't want to mess anything up but, would it help or hurt anything if I put this new one in my Vibrant?
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I did the exact same thing as you. I would also Like to know if it will help switching to the new sim? If it does help switching to the new one, how do I go about changing sim and how do I transfer all of my contacts to the new sim.
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T-Mo told me I had to update my SIM when I purchased my Vibrant. No charge, but no good explanation either.
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When i got my Vibrant back in October i was not told to switch the sim to the newer one, but i was noticing really choppy really poor 3g signal. I did my research and the newer sims have something to do with it. Now since i switched to the newer sim my phone gets excellent reception.
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I did the exact same thing as you. I would also Like to know if it will help switching to the new sim? If it does help switching to the new one, how do I go about changing sim and how do I transfer all of my contacts to the new sim.
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Put the old one in and go to your contacts and press menu>import from sim. And then they will be on your phone. Call the number that came with the new card and activate your new one. Put that one in the phone. Open contacts, menu>export to sim and you will have them in your new sim
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Mine died yesterday. I mean suddenly my vibbie pops up a message no sim card. It was 6 year old so I went to tmobile store and they exchanged it for free. They shouldn't charge you for that
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No need to update the sim card. 6+ strong here. If you need a new one for any reason, do not go to an official tmo store. They will charge you $20. Your better off going to an authorized reseller. Preferebly like a target or walmart. A place where they dont really care and will give it away for free.
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If everything works
probably no need to change it. But probably no harm either.
I had a SIM that was more than 10 years old - going back to Voicestream.
The MyAccount app and WiFi calling wouldn't work with it, so I went to Tmo store and asked for a new SIM. They gave it to me for free.
My Wife and I had to change our SIM cards (over 10 years old) because they would not allow importing of numbers to the Vibrant. Nor did they allow us to sign in to the Android market. Took Tmobile a whole day to figure out what was wrong.lol
The only reason I have ever replaced my SIM card is when I have lost my phone and not had an extra SIM card. I now have 8 SIM cards... if you you really feel the need to replace it send me a pm w/ an address and I will gladly send you one. But if your SIM card is working there is no need to replace it.
I know people have asked questions similar to this before, but all of those threads seem to be from a while ago.
Does anyone know if there is anyway to get google wallet? We have NFC, why can't we use it?
Is there any other option to pay with NFC?
Thanks
Both Google and VZW say it's not our fault or we don't know, I asked a rep why they listed Google wallet as an advantage of having a smart phone but it wasn't offered and I got a non answer.
For other NFC VZW is part of IRIS which just launched but only in Salt Lake City and maybe one other place and it should be active on Inc 4G's there I think, it was part of the last update.
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I know people have asked questions similar to this before, but all of those threads seem to be from a while ago.
Does anyone know if there is anyway to get google wallet? We have NFC, why can't we use it?
Is there any other option to pay with NFC?
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Both Google and VZW say it's not our fault or we don't know, I asked a rep why they listed Google wallet as an advantage of having a smart phone but it wasn't offered and I got a non answer.
For other NFC VZW is part of IRIS which just launched but only in Salt Lake City and maybe one other place and it should be active on Inc 4G's there I think, it was part of the last update.
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Isis tells me my device isn't comparable, I got the otb update at the beginning of the month. But it says I might need a new SIM card for it to work.
For anyone who wants to store gift cards like on google wallet or apple passbook, pass wallet does a great job.
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Isis tells me my device isn't comparable, I got the otb update at the beginning of the month. But it says I might need a new SIM card for it to work.
For anyone who wants to store gift cards like on google wallet or apple passbook, pass wallet does a great job.
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You will need a new SIM, there is an encryption method used by Isis stored on the SIM.
I know that it's possible to use our Verizon note 2 with pretty much any carrier now since bootloader is unlocked and there's the apn fix also. My question is if someone stole it would Verizon still be able to lock it like they do with other phones or will it be like any gsm phone now and switch the sim and theif had a new phone?
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Most carriers track imei of a phone and share that information with the other carriers so if they put in a sim for say T-Mobile they should be tracking note II imei numbers and will see yours come up as stolen.
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Most carriers track imei of a phone and share that information with the other carriers so if they put in a sim for say T-Mobile they should be tracking note II imei numbers and will see yours come up as stolen.
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Only the cdma carriers do that. Tmobile and att just put your sim card and it will work. I've had tmobile and reported a phone lost and later found and they never turned it off so I gave it to a friend and never an issue
I understand this isn't what you're asking but along the security lines ...if you don't know about an app called Cerberus I would get it. Its pretty amazing what it can do. Worth the money for me.
Actually gsm carriers are doing it as well. Example is T-Mobile actively blocking nexus 7 3g imei numbers so they can't be used with the $30/mo plan
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As a preventative measure (and for peace of mind), you can install Lookout, then hide it from the app drawer and disable the icon in the notifications. Sure, someone smart would probably look for that app and disable it or wipe it, but it could give you enough time to find your phone.
I turn off the AV and contact backup features of the app and use it only as tracking in case of a lost phone. Or I make it scream if I somehow lose the huge device.
I know this isn't exactly what you were asking for, but I figured it'd be a good tip to throw in. Cheers.
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As a preventative measure (and for peace of mind), you can install Lookout, then hide it from the app drawer and disable the icon in the notifications. Sure, someone smart would probably look for that app and disable it or wipe it, but it could give you enough time to find your phone.
I turn off the AV and contact backup features of the app and use it only as tracking in case of a lost phone. Or I make it scream if I somehow lose the huge device.
I know this isn't exactly what you were asking for, but I figured it'd be a good tip to throw in. Cheers.
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No offense but Cerberus is 3 times the app lookout is. Look into it. The amount of things that you can do from a remote computer is amazing. Take pics (front and rear camera) ...GPS...send a message to phone. Lock phone. Wipe phone. Set alarm...plus many more.
Cerberus is top notch. I paid for it too.
What about where my Droid? Any thoughts
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What about where my Droid? Any thoughts
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Just looked into it...first three reviews were bad. Saying it didn't find their phones or activate like it should. One guy seemed like he was using a rooted phone cause of the phrase "no matter what ROM I used it on". Plus to get the good features u gotta pay. Might as well get Cerberus. ... I seem like I'm advertising for em but because of that app I recovered a lost thunderbolt. Another cool feature is the lockscreen auto picture. You set the app to take a picture if someone enters a pass code or lock patter wrong 1-3 times. It takes the pic silently and sends to email. If anyone is ever messing with your phone you'll know.
Someone would have to pry my phone out of my cold lifeless fingers to get it, but I have wondered how exactly they track it since they now use cards in 4G phones.
any way to make Isis work since it won't work on rooted phone or other options?
Someone may eventually come up with a workaround but I'd just use google wallet, it's better anyhow.
When I got my g3 at the Verizon store, the usually pretty knowledgeable sales guy told me I needed a new sim for the g3, that my old vgnexus 4gLTE sim would work (yes, it did) but with that old sim in I would NOT have any NFC at all. No google wallet, no Isis, no bump to share, Nada. He said that is because the new sim enabled NFC on the Verizon LG G3.
He also said I would need ISIS, since it was going to succeed where Wallet had obviously failed. Hard to like Verizon, isn't it...but that unlimited grandfathered data...sigh.
I'm still using my SIM from my galaxy nexus and I have used Google wallet many times with my g3.
I'm pretty sure with wants goin on in Iraq Isis will be getting a new name soon.
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When I got my g3 at the Verizon store, the usually pretty knowledgeable sales guy told me I needed a new sim for the g3, that my old vgnexus 4gLTE sim would work (yes, it did) but with that old sim in I would NOT have any NFC at all. No google wallet, no Isis, no bump to share, Nada. He said that is because the new sim enabled NFC on the Verizon LG G3.
He also said I would need ISIS, since it was going to succeed where Wallet had obviously failed. Hard to like Verizon, isn't it...but that unlimited grandfathered data...sigh.
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I can believe that a new sim needed for NFC to access the Secure Element, but standard NFC should work independent of the the sim (at least it did on my galaxy s3). Wallet only "failed" because all major carriers, save for Sprint, locked them out of the Secure Element to begin with. NFC Host Card Emulation, introduced in KitKat, solves this problem and permits Wallet to work on any phone with KitKat and NFC. Even if ISIS worked on rooted devices, I would not use it because of the dirty tactics it was born from.
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any way to make Isis work since it won't work on rooted phone or other options?
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Isis works if you install xposed with root cloak module.
Same here. I have no intention of ever running ISIS or whatever they change the name to. I use Google Wallet routinely and prefer merchants that accept it, including gas stations.
Works with all my Nexus devices, even the old Verizon Galaxy Nexuses once they are upgraded to KitKat via Roms like CM or Vanir.
root cloak then it is!
work like charm.
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root cloak then it is!
work like charm.
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Yep, RootCloak is awesome. I personally use Google Wallet, except on small purchases since ISIS is doing the "spend $1, get $1 back" promotion until the end of December now. So a $1 drink at McDonald's ends up costing me $.08 (NY sales tax) haha.
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Yep, RootCloak is awesome. I personally use Google Wallet, except on small purchases since ISIS is doing the "spend $1, get $1 back" promotion until the end of December now. So a $1 drink at McDonald's ends up costing me $.08 (NY sales tax) haha.
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right, we are cheap :sly:
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I can believe that a new sim needed for NFC to access the Secure Element, but standard NFC should work independent of the the sim (at least it did on my galaxy s3). Wallet only "failed" because all major carriers, save for Sprint, locked them out of the Secure Element to begin with. NFC Host Card Emulation, introduced in KitKat, solves this problem and permits Wallet to work on any phone with KitKat and NFC. Even if ISIS worked on rooted devices, I would not use it because of the dirty tactics it was born from.
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Verizon blocks use of the NFC secure element in the phone for things like Google wallet. There is a secure element on the SIM for ISIS. Verizon argued to the acc that they could certify the secure element in the phone was safe so they block it's access to their network. You can beam photos and stuff phone to phone....but anything done with it over the air must use the secure element on the SIM. I know there was a class action lawsuit against Verizon for this becaus they have a financial interest in blocking Google wallet vs making us use ISIS.
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So, the newer Google Wallet doesn't seem to require access to any secure element, on phone or sim, anymore since KutKat, right. The Verizon guy was just wrong, Wallet and bump to share would have worked fine with the old sim, just not ISIS ?
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When I got my g3 at the Verizon store, the usually pretty knowledgeable sales guy told me I needed a new sim for the g3, that my old vgnexus 4gLTE sim would work (yes, it did) but with that old sim in I would NOT have any NFC at all. No google wallet, no Isis, no bump to share, Nada. He said that is because the new sim enabled NFC on the Verizon LG G3.
He also said I would need ISIS, since it was going to succeed where Wallet had obviously failed. Hard to like Verizon, isn't it...but that unlimited grandfathered data...sigh.
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He lied. You might need a new SIM for ISIS because they store the secure element in the SIM not the phone.
Wallet emulates secure element now and doesn't need secure element on the phone or the SIM. The only real requirement is that you be running KitKat because touch to pay doesn't work on any older version of the OS.
NFC is built into the phone.
If you want ISIS on a rooted phone use Xposed and Root Cloak.
I know it has the radios, but has anyone been able to activate it on Verizon? They couldn't do it for me directly, so we tried activating a different tablet, cutting down the SIM, and sticking it into the 9. No dice...the cut SIM works fine in my Droid Maxx so I know it's not the the cut SIM, and the number shows up in my "about tablet" so the sim is being recognized, but there's no service.
Anyone have any luck yet and/or suggestions?
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I know it has the radios, but has anyone been able to activate it on Verizon? They couldn't do it for me directly, so we tried activating a different tablet, cutting down the SIM, and sticking it into the 9. No dice...the cut SIM works fine in my Droid Maxx so I know it's not the the cut SIM, and the number shows up in my "about tablet" so the sim is being recognized, but there's no service.
Anyone have any luck yet and/or suggestions?
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I sell Verizon, had my first customers come in with these tablets and tried the same thing (activated the SIM in an iPad). SIM in the Nexus will read the IMEI, but it shows NO network signal. On the phone with tier two tech support right now. Will report back when I have an answer!
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I sell Verizon, had my first customers come in with these tablets and tried the same thing (activated the SIM in an iPad). SIM in the Nexus will read the IMEI, but it shows NO network signal. On the phone with tier two tech support right now. Will report back when I have an answer!
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Great! Thanks!
I have the same exact issue...device sees the sim but it just seems like the radio won't even turn on. Started to get afraid that mine might be defective but I'm excited to see if you come up with anything!
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Great! Thanks!
I have the same exact issue...device sees the sim but it just seems like the radio won't even turn on. Started to get afraid that mine might be defective but I'm excited to see if you come up with anything!
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My customer couldn't stick around long enough today for me to continue to trouble shoot. I'm going to continue on Monday when they get back from their Christmas travels! I'll for sure let you know whatever I'm able to solve as soon as I'm able to solve it! For sure not just you... I was worried for them as well, but didn't figure that the odds of TWO brand new tablets having the exact same issue, especially not when you say the same thing!
On a side note, I cannot WAIT to get my own one of these bad boys!
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My customer couldn't stick around long enough today for me to continue to trouble shoot. I'm going to continue on Monday when they get back from their Christmas travels! I'll for sure let you know whatever I'm able to solve as soon as I'm able to solve it! For sure not just you... I was worried for them as well, but didn't figure that the odds of TWO brand new tablets having the exact same issue, especially not when you say the same thing!
On a side note, I cannot WAIT to get my own one of these bad boys!
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Yes I love it so far, and the keyboard folio is great, especially since I grabbed it half off from HTC last week haha.
tried at verizon store .. he tried adding imei didnt work just gave me a sim card.
came home tried adding it on the website no dice..
switched the sim card from nexus 6 into nexus 9 no dice either.
if this all might not work i might just go and switch to tmobile ... have no service half the time but at least the stuff i want to use will work with no issue!!!!!! sick of VZW crap.
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tried at verizon store .. he tried adding imei didnt work just gave me a sim card.
came home tried adding it on the website no dice..
switched the sim card from nexus 6 into nexus 9 no dice either.
if this all might not work i might just go and switch to tmobile ... have no service half the time but at least the stuff i want to use will work with no issue!!!!!! sick of VZW crap.
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also my radio state is off and cant seem to be able to turn it on. did htc/google fuk something [email protected]?!?!?!
also any reason why factory image is missing modem from all of the files??!??
this thread is of great interest to me. Since this will really determine if I get a N9 LTE.
Also find the troubles interesting since a simple sim card swap worked with the N7 and is currently working with the N6.
I know Verizon won't do anything officially but doesn't stop us from getting our 6's running.
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this thread is of great interest to me. Since this will really determine if I get a N9 LTE.
Also find the troubles interesting since a simple sim card swap worked with the N7 and is currently working with the N6.
I know Verizon won't do anything officially but doesn't stop us from getting our 6's running.
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tomorrow going and getting a nano prepaid sim from walmart i hope to see if it activates on tmobile with no problem. then ill continue to wait.
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tomorrow going and getting a nano prepaid sim from walmart i hope to see if it activates on tmobile with no problem. then ill continue to wait.
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You're a BRAVER soul then I going shopping at walmart on christmas eve.
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You're a BRAVER soul then I going shopping at walmart on christmas eve.
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btw opened a case with google see if they know anything with verizon.
Looking into your account, I saw that you had contact support previously today (Case: 9-41030000*****) in regards to being unable to activate your Nexus 9 LTE tablet with Verizon. I wanted to let you know that your case has been escalated to the next tier of support and is currently being reviewed. You can expect a reply by email from either the previous agent or the Specialist who has reviewed your case, within the next 1 - 2 business days.
Thanks,
Heather
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Actually didn't go to Walmart trying to use the Sim card which came from my nexus 6
And connected. 30$ is spent.. I guess I'll get to test them again.. But at home just like when I left them getting 2g
Glad I sparked interest in this...I'm confident now I'll get this figured out one way or the other now that xda members are on it lol.
FYI, someone just mentioned it seems like their radio state is off. I noticed this too...i installed the 4G switcher app just to see if I could get more info from it, and it defaults that the radio state is off.
I did get it to seem to turn on once or twice but it didn't actually do anything.
I'm just hoping this isn't something stupid where verizon has decided not to sell the nexus 9 so they are blocking it from their network.
I used this app to dial *#*#4636#*#* to access the radio when it was off. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.modoohut.dialer
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Figured I'd try to chat with someone from Google...they don't know of any reason why the device shouldn't work on Verizon. Here's the transcript - http://pastebin.com/ZuhwvnAY
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I used this app to dial *#*#4636#*#* to access the radio when it was off. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.modoohut.dialer
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Yea the 4G switcher app gives the exact same info, and same thing showed when I tried what you did...seems like the radio is turned off, and it won't turn on.
My first thought is maybe google has the devices deactivating the radio when it detects Verizon but then they would have done the same with the 6 one would think.
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I think the device needs an update to work .. Would be good if someone on sprint try it too
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My first thought is maybe google has the devices deactivating the radio when it detects Verizon but then they would have done the same with the 6 one would think.
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Well the Google Play support guy says there's nothing on their end that he's aware of for why it wouldn't work on Verizon...I wouldn't see Google doing that, but I COULD see Verizon doing it haha.
One thing I am holding onto is that I ordered this the day it went on sale on the Play Store, so its just possible Verizon hasn't done something it needs to do to allow the connection. Its all conjecture for now though lol.