Related
HTC AMAZE ROM Bible
No one is responsible for what YOU do with YOUR phone. Any software modification to technology carries with it a certain risk of permanent damage, when you modify your device you accept this as your own responsibility.
XDA specific stuff:
Useful information/posting rules
XDA Developers Android application
Useful software (PC)
How to Root your HTC Amaze
Unlock Bootloader - Unlock bootloader on your HTC AMAZE
S-OFF - Everything S-OFF on your HTC Amaze
Quick glossary
ADB - The Android Debug Bridge. A collection of tools that any rooted Android user should have. ADB allows one to interact with their device from a terminal interface. This enables the user to do a variety of tasks such as sideloading applications and more.
Android - A Linux based operating system created and mostly designed by Google. The major revisions are 1.0, 1.1, 1.5 (Cupcake), 1.6 (Donut), 2.0/2.0.1/2.1 (Eclair), 2.2 (Froyo) 2.3 (Gingerbread), and 3.0 (Honeycomb - tablet only). The majority of Android major revisions are named after desserts.
APK - Android PacKage. These are, basically, Android applications and all of their data. They are run via the Dalvik Virtual Machine on your device.
Bootloader - The part of a computer that loads the operating system. If this is damaged/deleted you are screwed.
Flashing - The act of installing a ROM onto an embedded device or emulator.
Overclocking - Increasing the "clock" of a processor to increase its speed at the expense of battery life and possibly your phone. Not all processors overclock the same, even if the hardware is identical. One phone with a Hummingbird SoC will not be able to overclock to 1.2ghz, yet another would be able to overclock to 2.0ghz (very unlikely).
S-ON/S-OFF - S-ON is a "security" measure put in place by HTC on their newer phones that read locks /system and /recovery. Switching S-ON to S-OFF disables this protection and allows you to replace the stock recovery, and modify /system while the phone is in Android.
Radio/Modem - The parts of a firmware that allow communication between the operating system, the telecommunication hardware, and a mobile network. Some radios give good battery life, some good signal, some neither.
CRT - Also known as "Cathode ray tube" is the "animation" when you turn on and off a T.V. The animation of the line flashing across the screen and then the image appearing/disappearing.
XDA - This site, XDA is a community of likeminded developers, hackers, and users who modify various phones running various operating systems (Windows Mobile, Windows Phone 7, and Android specifically).
ROMs
Rom||RUU|| Shipped Ruby ROM Collection
These are the original htc amaze ROMs. (for more info read the thread)
[ROM][*NEW*] |Jun 20| Energy™ -.¸¸.·´¯ ICS Sense 3.5 Themed BLUE ¯´·.¸¸. -
SenseUI
[ROM][*NEW*] |Jun 20| Energy™ -.¸¸.·´¯ ICS Sense 3.5 Stock Look ¯´·.¸¸. -
SenseUI
Amazing QuikSense v3.0.0||Sense 3.0||Wifi Calling ||Free Teathering||CIQ Free||CRT||
SenseUI
ROM||BulletProof v1.0.0||Sense 3.0||Wifi Calling ||Free Teathering||CIQ Free||CRT||
SenseUI
[ROM][Sense 3.0] One Good ROM V1 [Base 1.46][Stock Kernel]
SenseUI
Fourth Bar Sense [ICS Themed|
This ROM is Ice cream sandwich like.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313017?referrerid=922386
How To Flash Kernels
Kernels
[Kernel]Amaze -COMPATIBLE with ALL Amaze (AKA Ruby) Rooted Stock and Custom ROMs
Radios
None at the moment.
Mods
Launchers
Widgets
Live wallpapers
Solar Wind live wallpaper
Matrix live wallpaper
Snowfall live wallpaper
Apps
Copied the format from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924793
You guys all are more than welcome to edit this.
I'm new to this phone.
xologist said:
Copied the format from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924793
You guys all are more than welcome to edit this.
I'm new to this phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did edit the ROMs text. You forgot the /center but other than that I left it untouched.
Oh.. and I stuck it too. Nice job!
I was wondering when you were going to do this.
You're missing QuickSense in the rom list...
2sh0rt said:
You're missing QuickSense in the rom list...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was just gonna say that.
- dredd
2sh0rt said:
You're missing QuickSense in the rom list...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Added.
Also shortened it up a little bit by hyperlinking the urls to the text.
great job!! hopefully this decreases all the repeated questions in other threads and makes binarys life easier haha!
Yes, but the all in 1 root tool thread got deleted.. or I dont see it anymore.. so that'll bring questions
will this work? what do you think.:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310115&page=24
xologist said:
Yes, but the all in 1 root tool thread got deleted.. or I dont see it anymore.. so that'll bring questions
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had to delete it b/c it was starting to get complaints because it was too similiar to the HTCSuperToolv2. He did modify a great deal of the script but since it was so simliar it was removed.
If it failed, do it again before post questions
When I first:
* Attemped to unlocked my Amaze: When I paste the unlocked code, HTCDev failed me and told me that my device is unlockable or something like that. I have to copy and paste the code again and it's worked.
* Attempted to root: My device told me the file signature is wrong (or invalid or something in that nature). I have to re-doing it the second time. Especially in this step, my phone kept unzipping the file and copy/update and repeating the unzipping process several times before successfully installed/update the file
* Along the way, when flashing new rom and kernal, sometime the phone told me that the zip file is wrong/invalid or stuff like that. At one point it even told me that it can not find the file. I have to do it the second time ...
* Browsing through the forum I've often encounting many replied from new Amaze owners complaining/asking as why they can not do as instructed, eventhough they did followed the step-by-step guide
To top it off, for some reason, the Amaze (compared with my old HD2 when come to flashing stuff) often gave me that wrong/invalid/fail results and I always had to do the second time to make it work. So, to the OP, Xboarder and other chiefs or anyone who would like to wrote guides like this, I'ld suggest to put a note telling noobies to DO IT AGAIN before gave up and posting questions which may not be a pleasant to others to read/answer/reply/helps ...
Just a though
Binary100100 said:
I had to delete it b/c it was starting to get complaints because it was too similiar to the HTCSuperToolv2. He did modify a great deal of the script but since it was so simliar it was removed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What ever happened to the open source community that used to be XDA? Nobody seems to care anymore about the overall advancement of things, so sad the direction things are going. I saw some posts in that thread where even xboarder was acting like an ass towards someone that was actually interested in learning things. What happened to the XDA that was all about everyone helping each other to get the most out of our devices?
Willieumm said:
What ever happened to the open source community that used to be XDA? Nobody seems to care anymore about the overall advancement of things, so sad the direction things are going. I saw some posts in that thread where even xboarder was acting like an ass towards someone that was actually interested in learning things. What happened to the XDA that was all about everyone helping each other to get the most out of our devices?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree that this needs to be an open source community but the issues begin when developers feel that they don't receive the appropriate amount of credit for the time and effort that they put into a project. If you spend hours or days making something just so that someone else can simply rename it and pass it off as their own, you would be upset too. What do you think would happen if I took CM9 rom, made some xml edits and renamed it to BinaryMod. Cyanogen and team spent HUNDREDS or THOUSANDS of hours making it and I spent maybe one renaming it. They would be pissed! Would you blame them? Who would want a BinaryMod anyway?
I would try a binarymod, I'm a masochist, er, ummmmm I mean an adventurist.
jimczyz said:
I would try a binarymod, I'm a masochist, er, ummmmm I mean an adventurist.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't feel like being banned. Yes, even moderators can be banned.
Even worse I might get CM team after me. They would put a hit out on me. Good think I have confidential plates though!
Even though our device is fairly new, Its been almost three months since it has been out I really do believe we need much more support. I'm trying to help people as much as I can myself...but we need more developers. HTC also needs to make it easier, we need S-off, if warranty is voided why wouldn't they give us S-off?!!! Limited availability of this phone to a few carriers also restricts development... I still love this phone!!!
wouldn't it be great if pershoot started developing for the amaze!!!
seansk said:
Even though our device is fairly new, Its been almost three months since it has been out I really do believe we need much more support. I'm trying to help people as much as I can myself...but we need more developers. HTC also needs to make it easier, we need S-off, if warranty is voided why wouldn't they give us S-off?!!! Limited availability of this phone to a few carriers also restricts development... I still love this phone!!!
wouldn't it be great if pershoot started developing for the amaze!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let's not forget that HTC won't release the full kernel source either.
Dev friendly my ar$e!
Binary100100 said:
Let's not forget that HTC won't release the full kernel source either.
Dev friendly my ar$e!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe they are also withholding other things like wifi, no?
seansk said:
I believe they are also withholding other things like wifi, no?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly. I suppose the wifi drivers isn't their source so they can't pubish it. That's what I understand of it though.
Hello All,
I want to start off with a very big thank you to everyone in this community, everyone here has been very helpful to someone who is a general noob to HTC-Android devices (last HTC I owned was a TPII).
With that out of the way, I've had my Rezound for about a week and I love this phone. It feels great in the hand, has a gorgeous screen that is second to none, and an amazing camera that I'm happy to walk around with in case I need to grab a quick picture of something. Truly, this is a top notch device.
The problem I'm having is that after a week of owning this phone, I'm ready to leave stock. I was settled on CleanROM ICS for the time being until CM9 came out, but then I did some reading looking into CM9 which brought up a few questions.
1) What is S-Off and why is it important? Coming from a Droid X, I thought the important thing was an unlocked Bootloader. Why are other HTC Phones "S-Offed" and this one isn't? How does this affect ROM Development? Does this hurt the chances of CM9 making it to the Rezond (very hard to tell because they have not announced CM9 device support other than the G-Nex)?
2) What is the RIL and why is it important? This seems to be a problem amongst developers.
The main reason I bought this phone over the G-Nex was the SD-Card slot, the camera, and the screen. If development of an AOSP or AOKP is going to be lackluster because of the issues above, I still have one week to return the device and go back to my X for the time being. I will admit, I'm loving 4G, but I'm going to have this device for 2 years; I need to make sure I can get as much as I can out of this device.
Thank you as always for your answers!
EtherBoo said:
1) What is S-Off and why is it important? Coming from a Droid X, I thought the important thing was an unlocked Bootloader. Why are other HTC Phones "S-Offed" and this one isn't? How does this affect ROM Development? Does this hurt the chances of CM9 making it to the Rezond (very hard to tell because they have not announced CM9 device support other than the G-Nex)?
2) What is the RIL and why is it important? This seems to be a problem amongst developers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The 2 questions you have are very related. What it means, from what I understand, is custom radio developments. Also referring to your first question and your concern, that's what we are waiting on. To not rely on a leak for custom roms and to get an official OTA to base the roms off of, which refers back to your 2nd question if this device can't get s-off capability. We already have a way to flash custom kernels & roms, so at this time, s-off would just add the functionality of creating a custom radio.
Snuzzo said:
The 2 questions you have are very related. What it means, from what I understand, is custom radio developments. Also referring to your first question and your concern, that's what we are waiting on. To not rely on a leak for custom roms and to get an official OTA to base the roms off of, which refers back to your 2nd question if this device can't get s-off capability. We already have a way to flash custom kernels & roms, so at this time, s-off would just add the functionality of creating a custom radio.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So what makes custom radios important?
EtherBoo said:
So what makes custom radios important?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it's more of nodding radios and not creating them. the only advantage is possibly better signal(depending on location,prl and tower) which leads to better voice quality but since this is high end as it is it might not even make a better difference even with possible data speed increases.
dyetheskin said:
it's more of nodding radios and not creating them. the only advantage is possibly better signal(depending on location,prl and tower) which leads to better voice quality but since this is high end as it is it might not even make a better difference even with possible data speed increases.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It sounds to me like an excuse not to develop on this device if this is really something stopping us from a solid AOSP or AOKP build.
I'm really torn. I want a Sense-less ICS ROM, but I really love this phone. I have a week left before I can return it. I suppose worst case I could steal my wife's upgrade in May and give her this phone if we don't see development start picking up.
Unrelated, I'm starting to think this device will never see a solid 5.0 build. CM9 isn't even out of beta and official device support is still showing CM7 devices.
I guess it's a tough decision. At least my wife is willing to take this phone.
The radio isn't the issue. The RIL in android is. I don't know of any android devices that have needed modded radios in order to get AOSP working. There is a working build of MIUI with 4G working... but it seems like the dev wants to get it perfect before he releases it. Once that is done we should be able to get CM9.
But by all means though, if you don't like sense, get a nexus. It is possible nothing will ever be released though so don't hinge your plans on it.
con247 said:
The radio isn't the issue. The RIL in android is. I don't know of any android devices that have needed modded radios in order to get AOSP working. There is a working build of MIUI with 4G working... but it seems like the dev wants to get it perfect before he releases it. Once that is done we should be able to get CM9.
But by all means though, if you don't like sense, get a nexus. It is possible nothing will ever be released though so don't hinge your plans on it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So con247- Do you think there is a chance that an ASOP ril will never be developed?
I guess my question is- how is the rezound>RIL>sense different than rezound>RIL>ASOP? If that makes sense?
It is possible it won't ever happen, but I have 99% faith it will be completed soonish.
EtherBoo said:
It sounds to me like an excuse not to develop on this device if this is really something stopping us from a solid AOSP or AOKP build.
I'm really torn. I want a Sense-less ICS ROM, but I really love this phone. I have a week left before I can return it. I suppose worst case I could steal my wife's upgrade in May and give her this phone if we don't see development start picking up.
Unrelated, I'm starting to think this device will never see a solid 5.0 build. CM9 isn't even out of beta and official device support is still showing CM7 devices.
I guess it's a tough decision. At least my wife is willing to take this phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seems like an odd thing to buy a phone on the expectation of AOSP. I'm pretty sure we will see a solid AOSP ROM before long though. Not sure how development is going to pick up much more than it is. We have a ton of great ROMs that these awesome devs have been working on tirelessly since before the unlock was even announced. It's only been four months since the phone came out. The development has been moving at breakneck speed! The lack of flashing unsigned radios has no bearing on ROM developing. Con is dead on. Patience folks.
Hey guys, I've been on an iPhone for over a year and I've recently begun looking into Android phones, particularly the DNA. I've got some concerns though. Some have been addressed here and there, others haven't.
My first concern is getting rid of the bloatware. I don't really dread it (although trying some other options seems really appealing). From what I've read, you need s-off in order to truly get rid of all the bloatware without negatively affecting other aspects of the OS. I've also deduced that an s-off exploit will probably come around sooner or later, but please correct me if I'm wrong. What exactly is downside of flashing a ROM or a kernel to an s-on phone as opposed to s-off?
I want the cleanest OS I can get. The "iOS of Android', if you will, and I unfortunately don't own the phone yet.
I'm also not sure I understand the difference between ROMs and Kernels. What's the point of using a different kernel? ROM's I understand, but the kernel seems like yet another layer beneath the ROM. What's wrong with the stock kernel HTC provides? Please clarify!
Thanks for reading and I'm glad to have this community here to help me answer some of these questions.
On the stock o.s., you can disable most of the bloat through the settings options. If you are rooted/unlocked, you can modify the Rom zip before you flash to get rid of the bloat as well.
Rom vs kernel:
The Rom is the o.s. that you see and interact with while using the phone. It consists of all the files needed (system, data, etc.). The kernel is the interface between the Rom(software) and the phone(hardware), which lets the two "talk" to each other.
Hope this helps.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda premium
Debloat works fine s on. S off is just to write to system while booted to android. Kernel is the layer beneath the ROM. Above the hardware. It's not that the stock kernel is bad, it could just be better. That's kind of the whole android thing. It could always be better, so we as community members try to make it better. The ios of android you speak of would be aosp. It may come to this phone eventually. I hope it does but at the moment ukb does a good job of looking like it. I hope you like the switch and get a chance to learn more about how it all works. You can read about it forever but getting down into is the only real way to learn
sent from my unlocked and rooted droid DNA
I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
Check out the non-carrier-specific forum...it's pretty active.
EDIT: HTC didn't come up short, this phone is considered quite a success.
My theory for this specific forum being dead is that T-Mobile's national release of this phone was yesterday (06/05/2013). Before that, it was only available in their "high-volume" locations.
Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
yea all the development is in the international forum. all roms on that forum will work on the tmo htc one and they work very well. i have flashed every sense based rom and most of the aosp roms. definitely not a ghost town over there:good:
Yeah, they should. But as always, continue at your own risk.
akarol said:
Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes but the 4.2 sense roms havent implemented support for tmo yet they still work as im running trickdroid 7.0 now just no wifi calling yet but the 4.1 versions have wifi calling and most other tmo stuff
akarol said:
I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
Yea I've been hanging out in the International One forums as almost all their ROMs work for us.
This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
LiquidSolstice said:
This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
akarol said:
Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Psssst... psssttt hey if u come we will welcome you!:screwy:
Sent from my SGH-M919 ddr3 13mp bad ass s4 using xda app-developers app
Firov said:
As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
the7thson said:
I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
Firov said:
9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
the7thson said:
Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
LiquidSolstice said:
It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
the7thson said:
Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
akarol said:
You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're going to enjoy the One. It's the first Android phone to have the build quality of an iPhone with specs that beat the pants off it
The only thing that sucks about the One is that because it has such a high pixel density, you will be extremely sensitive and aware of pixels in all your other displays (laptop/desktop/tablet etc).
I own an ASUS Zenbook, which is a 13" ultrabook with a full 1920x1080p display which is retina-levels of dense on such a small screen (I think it's almost 170 pixels per inch). The One? The one is a whopping ~470 pixels per inch. It is stupidly dense and I promise you won't find a single pixel no matter how hard you look.
the7thson said:
I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
jjohn999 said:
would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Look like they took it down. I have it in my local computer here and I can upload it for you somewhere if you like. PM me if you have access to somewhere I can put it for you.
Hey guys I've had my DNA since launch weekend. I've become interested now that I've seen there are methods for S-OFF and then now return to stock methods.
I am fully stock with the most recent OTA update. So I need help in figuring out which methods of S-OFF are easiest as I know I've seen different requirements for each one and it seems they keep changing so I can't keep up with them.
Also with the ROM's, are there any fully complete ones that work 99.9999% with the phones features. I have used CM 10 on my Incredible 2. Any thoughts as to which ROM's to start out with?
I know I could search the $hit out of this, but I read into things too much and then just get frustrated when trying to find a ROM or a method and never pick something.
**********Update**********
I moonshined my phone this weekend, so now it's time to look at each of the ROM's that you guys mentioned! Thanks again for the help in this!!
I really would appreciate any help on the matter and I thank you in advance!!
NOS7 seems to be my most fav all around so far. Very complete
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 4 Beta
like viper Dna the best no bugs at all very smooth and you can have tweaks and customize it to your liking. Moonshine to achieve s off worked flawlessly for me and it can now be run on windows so it's very simple.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda premium[/QUOTE]
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda premium
I personally think Revone method is the easiest way to get S-off .
If you want 99% bug free I would recommend NOS7
Moonshine -> TWRP -> Carbon -> Win
Sent from my Carbonized DNA
I'd probably suggest PAC or carbon. I'm on PAC right now, but next time I clean flash a rom, carbon is going on my phone.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda app-developers app
I'd suggest not asking users as you will get a different answer from every single one of them. Research each ROM and make a decision based on what you want.
As for S-Off, both methods are insanely easy. Pick one and go with it.
Phaded said:
I'd suggest not asking users as you will get a different answer from every single one of them. Research each ROM and make a decision based on what you want.
As for S-Off, both methods are insanely easy. Pick one and go with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I understand that different people will like different ROM's, but their suggestions do help with making a starting choice in figuring out which ones to give a shot first. I just tend to over research stuff and never making a choice as I can't decide which to pick. Sometimes it's easier to just start off with suggestions from others who have already done what I was trying to do.
Again thanks everyone for your inputs and suggestions! I'm going to research the methods for getting S-Off and pick one. I will most likely get this done this weekend.
If you are a fan of Sense 5 and okay with using android 4.1, then go for newt's NOS7 rom, it's essentially bug-free and super smooth.
If you're an AOSP kind of guy, I would highly suggest flyhalf's CM10.1 build paired with crpalmer's aosp kernel. Keep in mind that it is a WIP, so there is plenty of room for optimization, and some features (such as bluetooth audio) may not be working.. it is android 4.2.2, so you do have some features over 4.1, but it's whatever you prefer. There are more updates on CM based roms for the DNA because it is still generally new, and the developers are active on their respective roms.
I definitely would go with a Sense 5 Rom. I had nothing with problems with CyanogenMod on this phone. I take a lot of the talk of good things about it on this phone as circle jerking. I really had quite a few problems, even on the later versions that came out earlier this month.
Switched to NOS M7 and have had no problems what-so-ever.
mracrawford said:
I definitely would go with a Sense 5 Rom. I had nothing with problems with CyanogenMod on this phone. I take a lot of the talk of good things about it on this phone as circle jerking. I really had quite a few problems, even on the later versions that came out earlier this month.
Switched to NOS M7 and have had no problems what-so-ever.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As offensive as your post can be to developers, I do agree that a sense 5 ROM is most likely what the OP will enjoy using the most, and personally I also enjoyed NOS M7 quite a bit.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
pio_masaki said:
As offensive as your post can be to developers, I do agree that a sense 5 ROM is most likely what the OP will enjoy using the most, and personally I also enjoyed NOS M7 quite a bit.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wasnt trying to be offensive by any means. I understand the work that goes in to these roms and I appreciate it immensely. BUT I wanted to give this guy my most honest opinion from my experience. I don't want him to end up Rom swapping like mad if he doesn't have to, I've had zero problems with NOS M7. On Cyanogen I had force quits, bluetooth cutting in and out, wireless tether dropping constantly, now I have none of that.
mracrawford said:
I wasnt trying to be offensive by any means. I understand the work that goes in to these roms and I appreciate it immensely.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, you don't or you wouldn't call it circle jerking. Given the OPs requirements a sense 5 ROM, NOS M7 in particular would seem to best fit his requirements, which also seems to fit yours, no reason to talk like that about our work OR the users that support and enjoy it enough to recommend another user give it a try, even though they really don't meet the OPs stated needs in a ROM. Everyone has their opinion, especially on XDA, there's no reason to be insulting because you disagree with their ROM choice.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
Bad terminology, you're correct. It's been a looooooong day, and lots of work, lots of redditting, saw the term and used it. I should have re-read my post before I said I wasn't trying be insulting because that totally was. I'm sorry.
mracrawford said:
I wasnt trying to be offensive by any means. I understand the work that goes in to these roms and I appreciate it immensely. BUT I wanted to give this guy my most honest opinion from my experience. I don't want him to end up Rom swapping like mad if he doesn't have to, I've had zero problems with NOS M7. On Cyanogen I had force quits, bluetooth cutting in and out, wireless tether dropping constantly, now I have none of that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Carbon is my daily driver and I've had zero problems. Granted I don't use blue tooth or tether, but I haven't had a single force close. I had some connection issues, but due to a bad flash.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
I personally used the Moonshine method. It was very simple. I already use a Linux distribution so my PCs OS wasn't an issue. Just run the exploit and, for me at least, everything went very smoothly. I tried out CM10.1, Revolt, Carbon, Rootbox (one of the earlier more buggy builds), and Hatka Supreme. I'm currently running CarbonROM (the 6/11 build) with stock kernel and am loving it! I've considered trying the latest build of Rootbox, but not sure if I want to go through the setup process again. Its all a matter at personal opinion, just my $0.02 USD!
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda app-developers app
I just moonshined my phone, so now it's time to look at each of the ROM's that you guys mentioned! Thanks again for the help in this!!
+1 for NOS M7 haven't had a single issue with it. Only issues I have had are with mods or themes for it. Can't speak for an AOSP ROM as I haven't tried one yet. Also FYI I would recommend using crpalmer's kernel.
I'm in the same boat OP. I tried Viper's rom and it was too much of a change for me. I wasn't ready to ditch the stock (or a stock-like) interface yet. Been researching roms, but it's tough like mentioned earlier, b/c it's very subjective.
I just want everything to work, debloat, hotspot capabilities and some customization options. I like the stock look and I haven't had the phone long enough to tire of it just yet.
I've had a rooted phone before and I do get bored with things after a while, so I know I'll run through roms over the next time period before I buy a new phone. I want to get my mileage out of each one.
I tried to download Hatka (sp?) earlier today, but I guess it's unavailable atm.
Downloading Nos7 now. It's going EXTREMELY slow though. I even switched to wifi and still at 5% after 4 minutes.
natypes said:
I'm in the same boat OP. I tried Viper's rom and it was too much of a change for me. I wasn't ready to ditch the stock (or a stock-like) interface yet. Been researching roms, but it's tough like mentioned earlier, b/c it's very subjective.
I just want everything to work, debloat, hotspot capabilities and some customization options. I like the stock look and I haven't had the phone long enough to tire of it just yet.
I've had a rooted phone before and I do get bored with things after a while, so I know I'll run through roms over the next time period before I buy a new phone. I want to get my mileage out of each one.
I tried to download Hatka (sp?) earlier today, but I guess it's unavailable atm.
Downloading Nos7 now. It's going EXTREMELY slow though. I even switched to wifi and still at 5% after 4 minutes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here is the Hatka download http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=22909751817929231
I run CM10 only
Droid DNA