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Anyone tried it ? What are the first impressions ?
http://developer.android.com/guide/google/gcm/index.html
pandata000 said:
Anyone tried it ? What are the first impressions ?
http://developer.android.com/guide/google/gcm/index.html
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Why should anybody want this?
Well, it depends from the app, iOS has push notifications (which are almost the same), and this one will be good if you want to send messages to users app remotely - for example alerting them for event or something ....
pandata000 said:
Well, it depends from the app, iOS has push notifications (which are almost the same), and this one will be good if you want to send messages to users app remotely - for example alerting them for event or something ....
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But you could have done this without google... push notifications do not require a server by google (however you need one, but that shouldn't be the problem these days)
iOS and Windows Phone both have an OS dependant push notification service. That's simple because you have (or had) no internet connection from background apps on those OSs - so the only way to reach an app is via push using apple/microsoft servers - android does not have this restriction - so why give your/your user's data to google?
MaR-V-iN said:
....... the only way to reach an app is via push using apple/microsoft servers - android does not have this restriction - so why give your/your user's data to google?
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To avoid having background tasks and permanent connections that would degrade the performance of the device.
However, I don't feel that sending a push message that just tells the user that there's new stuff in the app hurts or discloses any private info. Even, thanks to Android, you could use the push notification to "awake" the app, then the app connects silently to your own server to get the info it needs, without google knowing, and closing the connection right after.
mocelet2000 said:
To avoid having background tasks and permanent connections that would degrade the performance of the device.
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That's not correct - you just give away the background task / permanent connection to another application, it's still needed. Moreover, with using this "service" you force your users to have gapps installed (and currently also JB, as gcm is currently only available in the newest Google APIs)
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However, I don't feel that sending a push message that just tells the user that there's new stuff in the app hurts or discloses any private info.
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If its only a tickle to notify the app that there is sth to update its not a privacy problem. But gcm allows you to send 4k of payload - this could be a private or chat message. (google gives such an example: http://developer.android.com/guide/google/gcm/adv.html#payload )
mocelet2000 said:
Even, thanks to Android, you could use the push notification to "awake" the app,
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That's right, but the question is if I - as a user for now - want this. Should the app developer (and Google!) be able to start apps on my phone to do things?
mocelet2000 said:
without google knowing
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I'm not going to tell you that google will know about it - it's up to you to find this out.
I agree, being not universal is a problem. But I prefer just an open connection to a notification server than many connections and multiple background services that developers might have not optimized.
Regarding what Google knows or not, it actually has nothing to do with GCM
mocelet2000 said:
I agree, being not universal is a problem. But I prefer just an open connection to a notification server than many connections and multiple background services that developers might have not optimized.
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GCM does not stop developers from doing **** with their background services.
You might be right, that one connection is better than many, however it is important to see, that most traffic on android devices today is with google servers - even if your mails are not there. All this traffic is not done with a single connection, but often many parallel connections. So google should optimize thier own things, else this is useless to me, as i do not need those google apps and i would have less connections with every other app using their own connection than with google apps installed.
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MaR-V-iN said:
GCM does not stop developers from doing **** with their background services.
You might be right, that one connection is better than many, however it is important to see, that most traffic on android devices today is with google servers - even if your mails are not there. All this traffic is not done with a single connection, but often many parallel connections. So google should optimize thier own things, else this is useless to me, as i do not need those google apps and i would have less connections with every other app using their own connection than with google apps installed.
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However GCM is just an additional option for developers, which itself is good. The C2DM was a poor try to make things done. I hope this time its better
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However GCM is just an additional option for developers, which itself is good. The C2DM was a poor try to make things done. I hope this time its better
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GCM is just an additional option for developers who want to make their apps incompatible with AOSP. However as there still are developers out there that do not know what AOSP is, they do not know that using GCM makes them incompatible. So GCM is not good at all, because it may be used "accidentally" by those developers.
So GCM is even worse than the pendants for iOS or WP, because there the push service is available for everyone.
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GCM is just an additional option for developers who want to make their apps incompatible with AOSP. However as there still are developers out there that do not know what AOSP is, they do not know that using GCM makes them incompatible. So GCM is not good at all, because it may be used "accidentally" by those developers.
So GCM is even worse than the pendants for iOS or WP, because there the push service is available for everyone.
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Agree ! But without any other alternatives, it's still an option
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Agree ! But without any other alternatives, it's still an option
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There is an alternative: write your own stuff. A push server is not that complicated. As you propably already got a server (because i dont think you want to send GCM pings from your home ) you got all you need, to not use GCM.
Hello
Google Cloud Messaging apparently not working on my device. Reported by a web service (not from Google but using GCM). Why?
My Google account fully configured and all used services assigned and working.
Where's the problem??
This is used by a few big developers. In their own apps. One of the biggest being AOKP with their AOKP push app.
Wayne Tech Nexus
In new Cyanogenmod Google CloudMessaging been used. CM 10 encodes SMS and these SMS been send per Google Cloud Messaging. CM is Open Source so you can get tipps from there
Being a Noob to Android I thought I'd install some location based profile software which is one of the things that Android owners always say they can do which is lacking from the iPhone.(where I come from)
Lamma seems to be recommended but the permissions it asks for include:
"Add or modify calendar events and send email to guests without owners' knowledge. read calendar events plus confidential information"
clicking on the detail is even more scary.
Android tells you what it's going to do - but do users actually allow this? Most apps seem to want permissions that you would have to be mad to accept.
Can I not install any useful app without agreeing to terms that are unacceptable?
What am i missing? Do people just allow unrestricted access? Not install any app? or is there a way of installing apps but not giving them stupid access?
I can't believe people allow that sort of access - I must be missing something.
Some custom after market ROMs allow to drop any permission by user but it may render app useless.
Most of the time apps are not malware, but sometimes they may be. You can contact developer of the app requesting for reasons of these permissions and he may reply better.
you can always use auto start manager app within the rom toolbox to control the permissions of the apps..
Confucious said:
Being a Noob to Android I thought I'd install some location based profile software which is one of the things that Android owners always say they can do which is lacking from the iPhone.(where I come from)
Lamma seems to be recommended but the permissions it asks for include:
"Add or modify calendar events and send email to guests without owners' knowledge. read calendar events plus confidential information"
clicking on the detail is even more scary.
Android tells you what it's going to do - but do users actually allow this? Most apps seem to want permissions that you would have to be mad to accept.
Can I not install any useful app without agreeing to terms that are unacceptable?
What am i missing? Do people just allow unrestricted access? Not install any app? or is there a way of installing apps but not giving them stupid access?
I can't believe people allow that sort of access - I must be missing something.
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You really have to think about what the app could be using the permission for, for example something like tasker pretty much needs every permission going because it allows you to set anything up as a profile etc.
The rule of thumb is to look at the app reviews, look at the permissions and just think about what the app could be using it for.
Sure a soundboard style app shouldnt need to make phone calls but many apps do need permissions that at first glance you might not think are needed.
And if your really in doubt email the developer and ask them to explain why they need this permission.
Surprise :laugh:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/manage-individual-app-permissions-with-xprivacy/
Run only the apps you want at system start.
With this app modul you could prevent selected apps of running on system startup. Only apps with the permission BOOT_COMPLETED are shown in the list. System apps are marked with an exclamation mark.
To restrict system apps you have to donate. ReceiverStop accepts this donate key too!
Important:
This app needs the Xposed Framework. The framework requires root access for installation. Don't forget to enable the module in Xposed. You can grab it here: Xposed Installer
Donation:
No self-promotion in the app.
System apps could also be selected
You support this app and further development!
Website: http://tinyurl.com/p2lsmou
Play Store: http://tinyurl.com/nfd3ftm
Xposed Repository: http://tinyurl.com/ogfq3t7
Changelog: http://tinyurl.com/k75vfbv
My personal intension to create this app:
IMHO the best way to prevent apps from beeing executed at sytsem startup is with Xposed - and there was now module/app available. So i created one
Translation:
You could find here a interface to translate the english strings: http://tinyurl.com/okycacj
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Description for non-developers:
Each app with permission "android.permission.RECEIVE_BOOT_COMPLETED" is placed in a (Windows slang) "startup folder". For my 200 installed apps that are about 33%. On system boot every of these apps gets started. Possible options:
app shows a notification
app starts a (hidden) service in background
app exits again (eg user has set an option)
If you disable an app in the BootManager it does not get that event and is not started at next system boot.
ReceiverStop
An app still starts at system boot? Android has many other events which could start an app!
Example: Skype has the permission "android.permission.MOUNT_UNMOUNT_FILESYSTEMS". This means, (again Windows slang) if you insert a DVD into you drive, "autorun" is executed and starts Skype.
Note: As your sd-card is mostly always inserted, this could be used to start apps at system boot....
Other triggers are: A BlueTooth device (dis-)connect, connection type changes (2g/3g/wlan) or power adapter is (un-)plugged.
All these could be restriced with my other app "ReceiverStop". Be carefull and do not disable the wrong.
Btw, ReceiverStop accepts also the donate key of BootManager.
defim said:
Run only the apps you want at system start.
Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/p2lsmou
Play Store: http://tinyurl.com/nfd3ftm
Xposed Repository: http://tinyurl.com/ogfq3t7
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First, your tinyurl links are broken for me...
Direct links:
http://bootmanager.apk.defim.de/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.defim.apk.bootmanager
Then I think minimal informations (and screen shot) about application would be preferable in this thread.
Not just the link that redirects to homepage or Play Store...
Hi Defim,
Thank you for this module This is a good job
Why not other languages ? Just German & English ?
I would like the French, please, if possible
There's not much to say
All links are working, except www.xposed.info which is down. Maybe you ask here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
defim said:
There's not much to say
All links are working, except www.xposed.info which is down. Maybe you ask here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
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Actually I gave direct links and give my opinion on the lightness of your thread!
About broken links for some, screenshot, xposed module link, minimal information and english language,.. it's your application and it is you who see
Steph310 said:
About broken links for some, screenshot, xposed module link, minimal information and english language
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I created this thread, because Xposed entry requires one. What's about the things you list?
defim said:
I created this thread, because Xposed entry requires one. What's about the things you list?
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System app requires donation
At list provide here in xda for experimental basis.
So we can check and give you reviews.
Also provide change logs here.
sent from my GT-N7100. Press thanks if I helped..
There is yet in-app changelog and on both other sites. I do not really want to update a 4th place. -> i places only links to 1st post
You should post change log here also, so every mate can know what changes made in new version instead of opening every time that site.
sent from my GT-N7100. Press thanks if I helped..
MBariya said:
.. post change log here also, ... instead of opening every time that site.
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No changelog here. You have alway to click somewhere, either to open this thread or play store or xposed repository...
Simplest way: use playstore which shows changelog on update
Found that system apps are removed in 1.0.2 version but they are available in 1.0.0
Donation switch also not working or directing to payment method.
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I seems that it doesn't work at all.
I have adaway, go backup, audiomanager, gnotes, pulse,skype they all loaded at the boot time.
If defim tried using the code that was pulled from XPrivacy very early on it's not going to be sufficient. One of the main reason the code was pulled was that apps were still triggering.
Autostarts is an alternative and it is available at f-droid.org
Changelog is now only available on this site, updating 5 places takes much more time than writing java. http://tinyurl.com/k75vfbv (english translation will there be soon)
MBariya said:
Found that system apps are removed in 1.0.2 version but they are available in 1.0.0
Donation switch also not working or directing to payment method.
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Se "about". Switch has no action, to not annoy people if touching it accidentally. System apps were available in 1.0.0, but only shows a msgbox -> annoying too
henrik.dk said:
I seems that it doesn't work at all.
I have adaway, go backup, audiomanager, gnotes, pulse,skype they all loaded at the boot time.
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Please check logfile:
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cat /data/xposed/debug.log | grep BootManager
Thera are many triggers which could start an app, like connection-changes. e.g. the app com.mobidia.android.mdm has even not onboot-trigger, but stars always. Next app will be for disabling such events...
famewolf said:
If defim tried using the code that was pulled from XPrivacy very early on it's not going to be sufficient. One of the main reason the code was pulled was that apps were still triggering.
Autostarts is an alternative and it is available at f-droid.org
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Take a look on the about menu...
I think to prevent apps to start, xposed is the best way!
thanks. I checked the debug.log it does indicate that bootmanager does try to reject.
Would you please just investigate why skype/audio manager still load after boot?
the app I listed is quite common apps.
defim said:
Changelog is now only available on this site, updating 5 places takes much more time than writing java. http://tinyurl.com/k75vfbv (english translation will there be soon)
Se "about". Switch has no action, to not annoy people if touching it accidentally. System apps were available in 1.0.0, but only shows a msgbox -> annoying too
Please check logfile:
Code:
cat /data/xposed/debug.log | grep BootManager
Thera are many triggers which could start an app, like connection-changes. e.g. the app com.mobidia.android.mdm has even not onboot-trigger, but stars always. Next app will be for disabling such events...
Take a look on the about menu...
I think to prevent apps to start, xposed is the best way!
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henrik.dk said:
Would you please just investigate why skype/audio manager still load after boot?
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Skype uses the "MEDIA_MOUNTED" action, that should the cause why the app is executed. The action is triggered if a sdcard is inserted/detected,even on boot.
@defim, it's too early to make a paid version, don't you? I think that at the beginning it's better to give it free, having more testers for your new module than this way.
For example, I don't know if you are going to mantain this apk, so I prefer to wait some time before paying for it (and also others).
What do you think?
And also keep in mind that there are a lot of others apk that make the same without paying (autorun...). Anyway, it´s your decision dev
thanks for the info. what the hell with skype to start auto when sd card is inserted.
defim said:
Skype uses the "MEDIA_MOUNTED" action, that should the cause why the app is executed. The action is triggered if a sdcard is inserted/detected,even on boot.
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agree with you.
Just could not find the autorun you talked about.
crispi7 said:
@defim, it's too early to make a paid version, don't you? I think that at the beginning it's better to give it free, having more testers for your new module than this way.
For example, I don't know if you are going to mantain this apk, so I prefer to wait some time before paying for it (and also others).
What do you think?
And also keep in mind that there are a lot of others apk that make the same without paying (autorun...). Anyway, it´s your decision dev
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crispi7 said:
@defim, it's too early to make a paid version, don't you? I think that at the beginning it's better to give it free, having more testers for your new module than this way.
For example, I don't know if you are going to mantain this apk, so I prefer to wait some time before paying for it (and also others).
What do you think?
And also keep in mind that there are a lot of others apk that make the same without paying (autorun...). Anyway, it´s your decision dev
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Maybe it' no clear, so i will clarify that i really prefer your module. I have uninstalled the other app because i prefer free source.
Please keep it up
Everyone will complain if at a specific point some featurs of an app will be restricted. So it is better to have it from the beginning. Beside that, you could "test" the modul as long as you want for free
If I maintain my apps until eternity could noone tell you. But you could take look at the changelog of other apps by me, eg FreetzMobil (http://tinyurl.com/ktzhcl3)
Handling of broadcasts like the "MEDIA_MOUNTED" are work in progress
PeerBlock is now available in the Google Play Store! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.peerblock_new
For anyone who is having the first version of PeerBlock For Android, I lost my certificate key by accident and was not able to update the first one I've uploaded.
Please install this version if you want it more updated with a lot of bug fixes.
Some features might not work yet as it's still Work in Progress but the basic functionality is working.
PeerBlock For Android lets you control who your phone 'talks to' on the Internet.
By selecting appropriate lists of 'known bad' computers, you can block communication with advertising or spyware oriented servers,
computers monitoring your p2p activities, computers which have been 'hacked', even entire countries!
They can't get in to your phone, and your phone won't try to send them anything either.
And best of all, it's free!
Keep in mind that I'm not a member of the PeerBlock team, I just wanted PeerBlock for phone
You're able to grab the lists from iblocklist.com so you can start blocking those evil hosts
To add lists to PeerBlock create a new directory in the root of the sdcard (not external sdcard)
Called 'PeerBlockLists' here should be all the text files
Everytime you added a new/updated list to your PeerBlockLists please press the 'Rebuild cache blocklist' and reboot so that new hosts can be blocked
Running a Firewall? or no internet ?
Be sure you enable Input Chains and WiFi rules for PeerBlock for Android even if PeerBlock for Android does not use the internet or WiFi.
The internet permission is being used to inter process communication with the apps and service to see if a connection should be allowed or blocked.
WARNING:
Root is required for XPosed to be installed
Use at your own risk!
WORK IN PROGRESS. WILL EAT YOUR CAT.
Features:
Block million of hosts (upto billions)
Add unlimited amount of block lists
Allow HTTP/HTTPS Traffic when PeerBlock is enabled, this will make a security hole though so better if u keep it off
Block All Traffic (Paranoid Mode) every single application in android will not have internet
Block DNS - Block DNS Requests
Block the 'Ad' Keyword in host names to give a better success rate for blocking ad's
Have a history list of every application that connected to a host
Block a hostname/subnet/ip address from the history
No internet leaks at startup!
Show a notification when a connection is being blocked.
Show a notification when a new connection is being established.
If people wonder if this also works for the Galaxy Note3... yes it does I'm having one myself
How To use
1. Install XPosed Framework
2. Install PeerBlock For Android
3. Create a directory in the sdcard called "PeerBlock"
3. Create a directory in the PeerBlock directory a directory called called "PeerBlockLists"
4. Go into XPosed Framework Installer and enable "PeerBlock For Android"
5. Reboot your device
6. Now go to the website iblocklist.com
7. Take any list you wish for example, http://www.iblocklist.com/list.php?list=bt_ads
8. Press the Update button to download the list (or copy the Update URL into your browser to download it)
9. Now simply copy/paste the .txt file into the sdcard in the folder PeerBlockLists
10. Go to the main menu and hit the "Rebuild cache blocklist" button
11. Reboot your device and enjoy
New features in 1.04:
PeerBlock For Android is now using a Service to have it more stable and if the service is not running no app can communicate with the outside world.
More stability
Re-designed UI
Strange behaviour is fixed which people noticed
Quite a few bug fixes which people reported
Fixed most app crashes
Designed my own database format
Less format errors in rebuilding the cache list
@DragonHunt3r can we get gingerbread support plz?
It seems old problems still there : block ad hosts button still unchecked for example.
I cannot add a list thé button does nothing ?
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Wow this looks huge many thanks! Does anyone know if this plays nice with AdAway installed or should this be a direct replacement for AdAway?
lmike6453 said:
Wow this looks huge many thanks! Does anyone know if this plays nice with AdAway installed or should this be a direct replacement for AdAway?
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You can replace AdAway with this or keep it side by side, it's your call really as AdAway is using the Hosts file and PeerBlock For Android is not using the hosts file
bournaze said:
It seems old problems still there : block ad hosts button still unchecked for example.
I cannot add a list thé button does nothing ?
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Same here, and if I select the 'Rebuild cache blocklist', all it seems to do is lock up the program.
Also, no mention on the YOLO test server being removed or not.
Hey there! What's happened? no play store, no apk, no xposed repo... no nothing... ?!
Conte Mascetti said:
Hey there! What's happened? no play store, no apk, no xposed repo... no nothing... ?!
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Does anyone know of an alternative app to peerblock?
Since we just get ignored by the developer, and mysterious connections are constantly being made from the program.
xT29c said:
Does anyone know of an alternative app to peerblock?
Since we just get ignored by the developer, and mysterious connections are constantly being made from the program.
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alt for PeerBlock - UnbelovedHosts
yespda2 said:
alt for PeerBlock - UnbelovedHosts
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Thanks! I'll be using that until/if PeerBlock gets officially released to android.
Lost a user dragonhunter.
Welcome Back
DragonHunt3r said:
PeerBlock is now available in the Google Play Store! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.peerblock_new
For anyone who is having the first version of PeerBlock For Android, I lost my certificate key by accident and was not able to update the first one I've uploaded.
Please install this version if you want it more updated with a lot of bug fixes.
Some features might not work yet as it's still Work in Progress but the basic functionality is working.
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Hi Friend, where have you been? Long time no see on xda....I must say you were missed I know many fellas were disturbed with your app....so much so that they got old thread locked....but if it gives you any satisfaction I have been always using your app....though I missed your to do list....which I am sure now that you are back.....you can work upon
HTML:
Todo's
Check if UDP is getting blocked
Remove space used by Ad's
Add MAC-Address filter white/black lists
Show notifications (if enabled)
Making the Ip Range check multi-core
Create a blacklist/whitelist for apps to allow internet
Blocklist updater/downloader
Create a whitelist for hosts/Ip Addresses
Root-Mode with IpTables (I will not remove XPosed from the project)
Remove host from blocked hosts
A popup window which shows allow/deny for establishing a connection
that YOLO problem is yes definitely there...can you please remove....though I understand that your app wasn't using any permission even if it would I had DMZs (double checks) in place to get rid of any unwanted outgoing requests....even for PeerBlock....anyways back to the point....Your to do list was great....you should complete that :good:
Also, ask forum moderator to unlock that original thread as you are back in business
can you please post the link?
godofgeeks said:
Hi Friend, where have you been? Long time no see on xda....I must say you were missed I know many fellas were disturbed with your app....so much so that they got old thread locked....but if it gives you any satisfaction I have been always using your app....though I missed your to do list....which I am sure now that you are back.....you can work upon
......
Also, ask forum moderator to unlock that original thread as you are back in business
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wow, could you cuddle Dragonhunter's balls any tighter?
So I've created an app with Unity3D using C# and implemented the GoogleMobileAds plugin on it so I can use AdMob with this app. I didn't publish it yet and after testing it looks fine and the banner is working as well, but I have some questions:
1: I got the Ad Unit ID and implemented it on my script, the thing is. Should the name of the "app" created in AdMob be the same than my app itself? In the attached image, under the app management in AdMob you can see the "app name" I am referring to.
2: Do I need to link my "AdMob app" to the app that will be published in the Google Store, through that "Link your app" button marked in red.
I've never published anything and I'm really lost with this exact part. Thanks for the attention.
All right, I got help from somewhere else and the answers are:
1: No, the naming should be used to help you associate it with your published app, generally having the same name than your app helps but it's not necessarily needed.
2: No, you don't need to link it, but linking it will help AdMob to show more information about it on your page.
This thread can be locked if the mods wish to.
1. No, you can select any name
2. It is optional
1. No
2. Optional, but I think when there are some strange activity with your app, Rate is so high, they will ask you add link for checking app.
1. No
2. Optional