The following is my thoughts on our (my wife and I) newly acquired HTC One phones. Thoughts regarding the big, glaring problem would be appreciated.
In the past week and a half, I found two killer deals on the HTC One (64gb) models, which I bought for my wife and I (second hand). At only $280 a piece, how could I pass it up??
Both my wife and I really love the look of these phones. Ours are matching silver models, running stock (Sense 5.0, Android 4.3) on Straight Talk using the AT&T SIMs. The beautiful aluminum finish, gorgeous 1080p 4.7" screen, BoomSound, and the best Sense UI ever! Fast too; the Snapdragon 600 and 2gb RAM really make this thing fly! I don't even mind the BlinkFeed, and other bloatware too much. High quality construction just oozes from this device.
After hearing about the amazing "ultrapixel" camera, I was excited about trying out the camera. To my dismay, this camera has been the source of my frustration. On both phones, the main camera refuses to focus. No amount of cleaning, Tap-to-focus, different modes, nor different camera apps have helped with this problem. On my wife's phone, you can gently tap the back of the phone, and it will focus suddenly for a few seconds to a few minutes, before totally unfocusing again. With my phone, no amount of tapping will make it focus at all. The only focus I can get on my phone, is on objects within about 2 feet of the lens (and, no, I an not using the Macro setting in the options, not the video camera focus lock). Further, if there is a low light situation, there is a lot of "blue noise"that gets into the picture. The front facing camera is fine, though.
I have Googled this problem, and it seems to be a pretty common problem (camera blurriness/bad low light conditions). HTC has acknowledged this problem to some degree, saying a software patch will be released soon. This problem has been ongoing since the phone was released, though, and I just don't think HTC gives a damn.
Any thoughts on this? Except for the camera, this is a fantastic device! So utterly disappointed with the camera, that I an considering just selling it, and getting a different phone. Help would be appreciated!
Sorry to hear your issue. I can say at least for me I do not have the camera issues your describing. Perhaps the camera issues were why they sold the phone.
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Sorry to hear your issue. I can say at least for me I do not have the camera issues your describing. Perhaps the camera issues were why they sold the phone.
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Perhaps, but there is ALOT of folks out there with camera issues. HTC has admitted in varying stages that there are issues with the camera, but yet they have done really NOTHING to fix them.
In my humble opinion, I believe this is a hardware defect. Defect, as in many, many from the factory line were pushed with this issue. My thinking is, is that there is some kind of focusing mechanism piece in the lens setup, that is either getting hung up on something, or was made with such poor quality, that its either breaking, or just simply not doing its function. This thought is based on my wife's phone, as I can knock the back of the phone near the lens, and all of a sudden it will work for a bit.
Of course, this isn't the case on all the HTC phones, which makes me think something is just getting hung up in the hardware lens piece. I would bet that is why HTC doesn't want to recall all those phones, as they made it nearly impossible to open up the phone (I am sure its a royal b*tch for them to get into as well!). Plus, with their less than stellar track record, this would only serve up to hurt their reputation more, and show how vulnerable the "ultrapixel" camera really is.
I know the blue tint is a acknowledge issue but your case is the first I have heard about focusing issues. Either way I do hope you can get it fixed. I would imagine it is still under manufactures warranty so try with att or by contacting htc
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Hi all. I am thinking about buying a Titan to replace my Focus but i haven't followed this phone too closely and i would love some input.
The Focus is a great size and Windows Phone is fantastic but it feels like a Samsung, meaning cheap and plastic. Also I would like a front facing camera.
Most of my phones have been HTC and I miss the quality feel of an HTC device. I'm concerned about the size of the device and whether it will fit well in my pocket. Spec wise it isn't much bigger than the HD2 but that doesn't always tell the whole story.
Anyway the reason for posting is to ask whether there are any known issues to be aware of, are there any model or versions to look for when buying second hand and is there a working unlock for this device?
Lastly has anyone made the move from the Focus to the Titan and if so what are your thoughts?
I think alot of people with the AT&T Titan is having issues. The only issue I have right now is that the WiFi randomly loses the connection so I gotta go into settings>wifi and just let it search, it finds the hotspot and automatically connects to it again. Annoying.
I have a Titan on AT&T, as does my girlfriend. We have had zero issues so far. Call quality could be a little better, but overall I have no complaints about the device. It definitely feels solid and quality built when handling it, and has a decent heft to it that you obviously don't get with plastic devices.
I'd say if you are looking to make the switch, go ahead and do it. From what I have experienced, it's a great device. I came from a GS2 on Sprint and the size of this phone actually does not bother me. I am 5'9" tall with "normal" sized hands and I can still perform all functions on this device with one hand.
I have the same experience: came from the Focus and haven't looked back. I don't have the connection issues many experience, but I agree that the call quality is horrible. I've never had so many people have trouble hearing me - it's almost unusable on speaker phone because nobody can understand me. Fortunately, I hate being on the phone.
Another thing is that my wife has dropped her Focus hundreds of times and it always breaks apart on impact with minimal damage. I don't drop my phone often, but I had the same experience with my Focus. Of course, when I was getting used to the size of my Titan, I did drop it once, just one day before my case arrived. Naturally, there was a huge gouge in the metal body. It's solid, but it's not as forgiving as the "cheap, plasticky" Focus.
Oh, so one other point: the Titan is huge, initially, but you get used to it really quickly. I laugh when people talk about how 4.7 is too big, and that it might as well be a tablet, that phones will start shrinking again. (http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44717/nokia-big-screens-are-stupid) I'm not so sure...this phone, because of its thinness, is easy to get used to. It now feels "normal" size and my wife's Focus feels "dinky." ...and the Focus screen wasn't all that tiny either!
Here are some of my early gripes with the Titan, but it's pretty much outdated at this point, because I really have very few gripes anymore about this awesome phone. And at a penny (same price I paid on Black Friday), you canNOT go wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372056
Thanks. If the price is right I’ll probably pick one up.
One other thing I’m curious about. I started with WP7 using the original dft rom on an HD2 and I thought the screen response and especially the keyboard were outstanding. I’m less impressed with the responsiveness of the Focus. I’ve seen mixed comments about the Titan, anyone have current thoughts about this?
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Thanks. If the price is right I’ll probably pick one up.
One other thing I’m curious about. I started with WP7 using the original dft rom on an HD2 and I thought the screen response and especially the keyboard were outstanding. I’m less impressed with the responsiveness of the Focus. I’ve seen mixed comments about the Titan, anyone have current thoughts about this?
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I think the screen of the Titan is a bit unresponsive/slow compared to my iPhone in terms of tracking the finger. iPhone tracks it 100% correct and fast while the Titan seem to either struggle or have a speed limit on the screen.
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Thanks. If the price is right I’ll probably pick one up.
One other thing I’m curious about. I started with WP7 using the original dft rom on an HD2 and I thought the screen response and especially the keyboard were outstanding. I’m less impressed with the responsiveness of the Focus. I’ve seen mixed comments about the Titan, anyone have current thoughts about this?
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Is a penny the right price? ATT has it on sale again. I had a Focus. I moved to the Titan. I had all the issues mentioned,lol. I did all the fixes mentioned in this forum and I'm tickled pink. I gave my Focus to my girlfriend. Had my Titan since December. Yesterday my girlfriend wanted my to add something to her phone. When I grabbed the Focus, I couldn't believe how tiny it looked. I had trouble typing on the keyboard because the letters looked so small. Titan has ruined me! I can't get a smaller phone,lol.
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I think the screen of the Titan is a bit unresponsive/slow compared to my iPhone in terms of tracking the finger. iPhone tracks it 100% correct and fast while the Titan seem to either struggle or have a speed limit on the screen.
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ArtieQ, my experience with the iphone obviously differs from yours but ill take the point as "it could be better"
I went and played with a Titan today and i was pretty impressed with it until i changed it to the same green theme in had on the Focus. The colors were completely different. Ive always thought that the Focus was a bit much but in a direct comparison the Titan seems to go to the opposite extreme.
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I went from the Arrive to the Titan. I haven't looked back. I'm 5'10" and comfort isn't an issue. I don't even notice the phone in my pocket (I never use a case except at work). I have had zero issues that most people express except for the occasional keyboard problem (minor issue compared to the text limit of the Arrive). Build quality is right on par from what I expect from HTC. No plastic feeling here. I agree with bennyj71, I'm amazed how tiny the wife's 4.3" phone seems after using this phone the last 4 months.
Thats cause the focus uses a super amoled screen colors tend to be better QUOTE=Will_nonya;23348196]ArtieQ, my experience with the iphone obviously differs from yours but ill take the point as "it could be better"
thats because the focus uses a super amoled screen colors tends to be more vibrant
I went and played with a Titan today and i was pretty impressed with it until i changed it to the same green theme in had on the Focus. The colors were completely different. Ive always thought that the Focus was a bit much but in a direct comparison the Titan seems to go to the opposite extreme.
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The only issues I ever had with my Titan are the WP7.5 ones with disappearing keyboard etc that the latest update has gotten rid of.
The handset feels great to hold and use and fits easier in your pocket than you might think, forget about any docking stations except the specific one though! I like the battery cover being one whole side of the phone too, makes it seem more solid.
The camera is really really good, useful having the front facing one too and to help with photos, the screen quality is miles better than my old phone the HTC HD7.
Literally the only thing I can think of that annoys me is that there aren't more theme colours!!!
In all it's a great phone to have and people although mocking, will actually be jealous of the screen size!
I love HTC hardware. It just feels so much better in your hand than Samsung was certainly no exception. It also seemed to perform very well.
The only thing that gives me pause is the washed out look of the screen. Some colors that are briaght and vibrant, and arguably over saturated, on the Focus were washed out and not even close to the same shade.
The only other consideration is how the Lumina 900 will compare. Assuming that it is well build I'm honestly more interested in the Nokia software but i have a long history with HTC.
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I love HTC hardware. It just feels so much better in your hand than Samsung was certainly no exception. It also seemed to perform very well.
The only thing that gives me pause is the washed out look of the screen. Some colors that are briaght and vibrant, and arguably over saturated, on the Focus were washed out and not even close to the same shade.
The only other consideration is how the Lumina 900 will compare. Assuming that it is well build I'm honestly more interested in the Nokia software but i have a long history with HTC.
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Can't disagree with the build quality, but I do disagree about the screen. Nothing about it is washed out to me, and I also came from the Focus. I also have heard that the Focus S is even MORE saturated, and I've definitely come to prefer the Titans more realistic colors. More under "screen colors" here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372056
Go and get the Titan. you won't be disappointed.
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I came from the Samsung Galaxy S III and before that it was the iPhone 4, and iPhone 3g and before that Blackberry. I have been all over the place with phones and I get very excited when anyone releases the next huge phone. My main plan was to get the Galaxy S IV until it was actually revealed and I felt quite let down but what it was offering. I felt like they 'appled' things up by just making tiny upgrades just to get people to buy more of the same thing.
Then I read about the HTC One and was a bit skeptical. They were raving about the speakers and the Ultrapixel and all the other features and I just couldn't get past the fact it was HTC. My friend had the HTC One X and I saw how it lacked in updates and didn't have expandable storage or a removable battery. On my SIII I had an extended battery and would still manage to burn through it in a day of heavy usage. So even though I LOVED most of the things about the HTC One. I was scared of jumping ship and trying it.
As the weeks went on and the reviews came out I begun scouring the internet for every bit of information I could find on the HTC One. I read every review and I swear I surfed every forum and at the end of the day I was still impressed by the device and figured i could get over the lack of replaceable battery and extra space. So I made the leap and got the HTC One on AT&T.
I've had it a few days now and I'm still as impressed with this thing as I was when I was reading all the reviews on it. Everything from the 'BoomSound' to the 'Ultrapixel' camera was spot on like I read. The names of the cool features might be a marketing gimmick but they really are the things that make this phone stand out and make it unique.
BUILD QUALITY:
Do I even need to touch on this? Every review, every person who ever touched this device all same the same thing. That it truly is a sight to behold. Trying to put it up against my S III makes the S III look like a toy. This is one phone that I don't want to get a case for (and still haven't) because I think everyone needs to see the HTC One because this is how quality phones should be made. If you read the forums and some reviews they do mention there could be a slight gap around the plastic antenna band, and on mine that is also true. But it is SO tiny on mine that I don't even think it's an issue.
BLINK FEED/SENSE 5:
I have never used an HTC phone with Sense before, coming from the Galaxy S III SENSE is a HUGE step up from what Samsung had. I would often through CM10 or AOKP on my SIII just to get rid of the horrid UI on the S III. I read in reviews that blink feed was almost worthless and most people wouldn't use it and so I figured that be the case for me too...but the crazy part is, I actually DO use it! While I am sitting at work waiting for something to happen or I'm at dinner waiting to order I'm actually finding myself unlocking my phone and seeing what is going on with the world through Blink Feed. I LOVE RSS readers and being on top of things and Blink Feed helps with this without me having to even load up a third party app or anything. While Blink Feed is good they do need to open it up to allow me to import my RSS feeds and what not (like flip board, etc). Blink feed isn't perfect but I'm surprised by how much I actually use it.
On to Sense 5 I am quite impressed with it. Typically I'll throw Apex or Nova launcher on top of the UI and be done with it but after putting Nova on it for half a day I actually ended up uninstalling it. Part of it was so I could have Blink Feed back but the other part is I liked the overall look of Sense 5. It was clean and the buttons were nice. I wish I could use the Sense 5 icon for internet on instead of the look of the Chrome button since that's what I use and chrome now sticks out like a sore thumb on the dock, but I can live with that. Sense has done some nice things in the app locker section by letting you easily search for apps/hide apps and even put apps in folders. I've found that I use Blinkfeed as my main screen and the app launcher as my 'second screen'. I don't even bother swiping over any more to show more home screens.
CAMERA
The camera was the real reason I was excited about this phone. It was something different and something that sounded amazing on paper. HTC was doing something radically different and instead of going the way of the MegaPixel war, HTC was bypassing it completely. And for me, their bet has paid off. This camera will not be for everyone. For people who want amazing clear and detailed pictures then 4MP will probably not be enough. But I'm the kind of person who likes capturing the moments through out my day and sharing them with friends on FB or on G+. I like taking pictures during almost everything and the HTC One helps me with that tremendously.
Zoe mode is a nice change of pace where instead of just capturing a still pic it does the still with 3 seconds of video/sound. This allows you to then find the perfect picture in the 3 second period and edit and save that or even do things such as picking the best face from people in the photo and combining it into one, removing objects in the background, actually making peoples faces skinnier and many other tweaks. There are some options I don't think I'll ever use such as the option to make eyes bigger but I've used it to make funny pictures of my family by making them look like aliens!
The highlight reel is pretty neat and I find myself creating them and posting them to facebook. I think it was completely stupid of HTC to only include 4 themes and make it that you can't use custom music/themes but I have my fingers crossed that that functionality is coming. The highlight reel is a lot like the blink feed. It's a great start to something that can really shine, but HTC needs to get off it's butt and finish it to make it stand above the crowd.
The UI for the camera isn't very pretty or intuitive but the amount of options it offers easily makes up for it. Coming from the SIII it's pretty cool to be able to change everything about the camera settings and it allows people who take the time to learn to capture some pretty impressive shots. Even on full auto it takes good pictures but I think that one will need to learn to adjust the settings based on the situation they are in to get the best photos possible.
The lowlight shooting is hands down amazing. I was able to take a shot around 830 at night after the sun set, the cars on the road had their headlights on and the street lights on the side of the road were on, but the HTC One captured enough light to make it look like the sun was still out. It is crazy how much light this camera captures and when you're like me and love capturing photos of your kids in the house and might not always be in perfect lighting, then this phone is fantastic. Thanks to the quick capturing taking pictures of fast moving objects is also quite enjoyable. On the SIII (not so much on the iPhone) capturing moving objects would lead to very blurry photos, that isn't the case on the One.
I know this section got a bit big but I just wanted to run down some things about it. I didn't even mention the slow motion video, the hdr, the video hdr and other things such as the sequence shot. I have used the HDR pictures (there is a tweak out there on custom roms to enable front camera HDR too) and it's QUICK. The slow motion video makes the video quality really bad but it's still a fun effect. The camera is just something you need to use to be able to fully comprehend. I'll take a photo of something and show someone and they look at me like I'm crazy because they don't understand why I'm so excited about the picture. It's hard to describe just how low the lighting was in it and how awesome the One captured the photo.
BOOM SOUND/MICS:
Stupid name, awesome feature. I never understood why phones put the speakers on the back/bottom. It never made sense. The screen is on the front so why would I want the sound coming from a different location?! On the iPhones the speaker was on the bottom and on the S III it was on the back and I'd have to do this weird cupping movement with my hand to get the sound to make it around to the front of the phone just so I could actually hear what I was watching! And if I put the phone down some where then it'd get all muffled and horrible. The One does not have this problem at all. I'd say the front speakers can be on par with some netbooks/tablets if not louder. This makes watching videos/listening to music or even taking speaker calls a very good experience. It also has dual membrane mics that do a great job at making sure that you're recording sounds of things you actually want to record. Apparently the company that made them for HTC is being sued in Europe because they were supposed to wait 12 months to use them in another phone, but HTC isn't being held liable in that because HTC had no idea.
Now most of this review seems like it's all glowing and perfect for the One but it does have some issues. Things such as Blink Feed and the Highlight Reel (2 huge features HTC touted) feeling like they aren't finished. Or the fact the LED is only 2 colors (I miss being able to have the Notification LED on the S III let me know exactly what the notification was for before I even had the phone in my hand). I also know this isn't a big thing but I always feel like I'm going to scratch the phone when I set it down someplace just because of the noise it makes. Hard to describe but when you put something metal down it makes quite a bit of noise. I know it won't scratch or anything, but in my mind I can't convince myself it won't!
At the end of the day, I'm in love with the phone. It fits me and my life style perfectly and it captures why I love smart phones. I don't take pictures of my food but I spend a lot of my day capturing memories and sharing them with the people close to me. The HTC One makes doing that and keeping it organized thanks to events very easy! I would still recommend the S III to anyone that wants a great cheaper phone (specially since the price has dropped on it). But if someone asks me what the best phone in, I will say the HTC One without hesitating.
Same thing was going on with me, but I knew HTC always made high quality build phones. I took the jump from an N4 and haven't looked back. Your review was awesome and right on par with my thoughts about this phone too.
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Great little review! Thanks for taking the time to write it up. I'm trying to hold off on getting the One, but I don't think I can after seeing it all over the place. The thing just looks too damn nice. I'm also really over the plastic body of the S3.
I got a question for ya though.. How is multitasking on the One? I completely hated it on the One X and even ended up returning the phone. I wouldn't even call it multitasking tbh. Dunno if you ever used the One X, but I was curious if any of the problems still persist.
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Great little review! Thanks for taking the time to write it up. I'm trying to hold off on getting the One, but I don't think I can after seeing it all over the place. The thing just looks too damn nice. I'm also really over the plastic body of the S3.
I got a question for ya though.. How is multitasking on the One? I completely hated it on the One X and even ended up returning the phone. I wouldn't even call it multitasking tbh. Dunno if you ever used the One X, but I was curious if any of the problems still persist.
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The multitasking was one of the things that turned me off about that phone. From what I heard it'd start closing things after you had one or two things open. With the One I haven't noticed anything like that and when I open my 'Open Apps' by double tapping home it is always full. Now it only shows 9 open apps at any given time. I'm not sure if it closes other apps if you get over that number or not. But if that's the case it hasn't affected my use at all. Maybe HTC wised up after the bad reviews or maybe it's because it has better memory management.
Thanks for the review robamacaf! Well written and very informative.
I have also grown tired of Samsung plastics and gimmicks. My recent devices have been HTC One X, iPhone 5, Galaxy S3, and a Galaxy Note 2.
HTC has always made nice hardware. Dare I say that even the One X had pretty good build quality when compared to the S3.
Like you, I assumed one of the 1st things I would do on the One would be to find a way to rid myself of BlinkFeed. That crazy thing happened to me as well and now I find myself using it and loving it.
Thanks for the awesome review!
If you wan't to skip the back story, just head down to the problem and question, thanks.
Let me start of by saying that I've loved HTC since the Sensation saved me from years of being brainwashed and enslaved into using iPhones.
But, It's actually more of a love/hate relationship... During the year or two in which I used the Sensation 4G (loved it) - I went through about four different ones due to them always having some sort of silly hardware issue.
I've been using the HTC One (m7) the month after its initial release and it is by far the best phone I've ever had in terms of feel, quality and features. It's pretty much an all around perfect phone.
Anyway, that being said... In search of a solution - I written my current problem below which has been haunting me relentlessly.
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The problem: During my time with the HTC One, I've had to get it replaced twice due to the camera sensor eventually giving into the heart and becoming fault. Leaving me with an horrible blue, purple, orange, red, etc... tint in almost all of my semi low light photos
Question: I've heard from a rep in the past that HTC delayed on the release for the Max until the camera issue was resolved.
It's been some time since I was made aware of that and the max has been out for a while now as well so I'm a bit confused or maybe I just don't want to believe that my beloved HTC is continuing to ship faulty cameras after being aware of the problem.
Anyway, Is there any specific starting production date from which they actually stopped using the crappy sensors vulnerable to the heat generated by the phone it self?
If so - Is there anyway to tell... for ex. serial number, revision? Pretty much any liable distinction, I'm a bit frustrated + a little desperate since I can't seem to find one my self. I would like a solution to this before replacing into number three. Sigh.
T-Mobile versions by the way. I've also tried all the updates, custom roms, diy fixes etc... nothing works.
Help is greatly appreciated, thank you. Save me. lol
Any input?
Camera version is "st vd6869(1.0) cinesensor 2013-04-12"
If I turn off all the lights, I just get a pitch-black image. Leave a 60-watt table lamp on, point at the wall, and there doesn't seem to be a tint other than the yellowish light put out by the bulb. However, image resolution leaves quite a lot to be desired. Zooming in a bit more than a fourth of the way produces noticeable grain of all sorts of colors.
What does it say when you open /sys/android_camera/sensor ?
I have always liked HTC phones. My last three phones have been HTC. I like they way they look, and the premium build quality of the the One X and later models only added to that. And I am one of the few that actually liked Sense. I was pretty sure I was going to get the M8... then I test drove it in the AT&T store. Why oh why HTC? No, I am not talking about the flimsy camera and the weird fingerprint reader knockoff.
1) Why occupy so much real estate with those two giant front-facing speakers? Exactly how many people listen to music on their speakerphone? Yeah, it happens in one particular community, but I don't think HTC was targeting that primarily that type of customer with this feature.
2) More importantly, what's up with the fat bezel below the screen with the HTC logo on it. I am so used to having the navigation buttons down there that kept pressing the blank areas around the logo. It seems that HTC is aware of this tendency, as touching the left and right areas triggered the buttons immediately above. However, the behavior of the HTC logo was maddeningly inconsistent. Sometimes it would trigger the area above it, sometimes not.
How do you find this "feature"? I really wish they had found a more discrete way to put their logo on the face of the phone (hey, even image-obsessed Apple does not do that). If they really wanted it on the face they should have at least put it on the top of the screen where it is out of the way.
Am I missing something about this feature, or is it really as boneheaded as it appears. This alone is making me want to buy a different brand phone. I don't like the S5 and it seems the Xperia is not going to be available in the US for a while, so as of now I am waiting for the LG G3.
There are components underneath it.
At least that's what I read a long time ago before the phone came out.
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Their is hardware beneath, and if they were to make the screen longer the screen's ratio would be off. It is not annoying actually. This is my first HTC phone but I got used to it really fast.
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I thought it would be annoying and hated it in pictures and actually decided not to get it bc of this, but then my wife surprised me with the m8 and it doesn't bother me in the least coming from the m7. This is an awesome phone and the fastest phone ever.
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Don't even notice it
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yes these "lower bezel" complaints are ridiculous. You don't notice it at all, and it's there for a reason - some hardware (and I believe antennas) were placed there because the back was all covered with metal.
is kind of annoying during the first week or so, after that you just get used to it, but I do think that HTC should at least leave the capacitve buttons in there to justify the bezel and give us a full screen user experience.
Still occasionally bothers me when looking at other phones/manufacturers who found a way to avoid this. But then I hold their phones and am all good again.
I just got this phone yesterday. Coming from a Note 4. Not sure how much good the secondary screen will provide. Is this a good phone? Is there developer interest? Would I be happier with a different phone from verizon? The main reason I got this phone was because it has a removable back and replaceable battery in addition to an SD Card slot.
I got it because my Z3v broke and I needed a replacement. I was considering the G4 but I liked the fingerprint scanner so I went with this on black Friday. It's a good phone for the $170~ with all the deals I got but if I had to pay more I might not have gone for it honestly. I love the replaceable batteries I got and the 200gb SD card. The camera is great on it, and the wide screen front camera looks great in photos.
Secondary screen is pretty useless for me, I leave it off or on the signature screen. Also as for development I don't think we'll see much cause Verizon. I'll probably keep it for awhile but honestly might upgrade to one of next year's nexus devices if they look good.
So far I love it. My Note 4 was turned into a square white turd by the latest update from Verizon. It was absolute crap, overheat, battery life sucked and it would just go black...Verizon said that it was impossible to downgrade back to 4.4.4 where my phone was great. This phone is Smooooth as butter. The second screen is kinda gimicky but it does come in handy, much better than that "edge" crap from Samsung. As far as root??? Dont get your hopes up, the note 4 never got it and probably will only when it is obsolete. Just enjoy the buttery smoothness that is the V10. I know I will.
The V10 is great. I considered a Samsung but they got rid of expandable storage and removable battery. Otherwise, I might have ended up with a Note 5. This is my third LG device. I have the G2 and G3 prior to this. Not crazy about the second screen and I think there's no need for 2 front facing cameras. All in all I love it.
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Here here. Second screen so much better than the edge crap. I loved my Sammy S3, but very happy with the V10. I know too many people that hate their S6 of all varieties.
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I would recommend the G4, I'm regretting selling mine to buy the V10.
R4NDR01D said:
I would recommend the G4, I'm regretting selling mine to buy the V10.
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Main gripe is lack of root / dev support. My G4 was rooted rather quickly and I never realized just how much Viper4Android did for my music. Sure there's a DAC and AMP, but Viper had a LEGIT equalizer, compression, and the main selling point: Convolution. I realize I'm in the minority here. But actually, 3 of the new features that the G4 didn't have I find don't use. I've literally disabled the 2nd screen entirely since the lack of customization proved it to be useless / distracting to me. Plus that light bleed when the screen was off was annoying. Completely didn't realize there wasn't any LED notification light until it was too late. Wide angle front facing lens is nice, but I'm not much of a selfie person and would have LOVED to have a wide angle rear facing lens more. Front facing camera quality also seems sub-par compared to G4. Battery dies faster on the V10 than it did on the G4. I can't change the DPI on the V10 because the 2nd screen causes any DPI app to FC. Finger print scanner didn't work with any of my cases, but I don't really use a lock screen any ways because I use Gravity Screen. I just really feel dumb for switching...but you don't know what you have til it's gone! Oh well. I learned my lesson. I'm trying to convince my brother-in-law to trade me his G4 for my V10. Wish me luck. ( ^o^)/
I love my V10. I hated the LED on my G2 and G3. Second screen shows icons for notifications which is more helpful to me. When in silent mode I can quickly see what app is notifying me and can decide if it needs attending to. Not that activating the screen is any slower but I like that aspect of second screen. I only notice the bleed when the screen is off and the room is dark. I'm not real big into EQs or anything. The new VZW updates that came last week fixed the FPS issue. Works great with a case. I never had a FPS before and I hated security locks so I never used one previously. I absolutely love the phone. I tried root and ROMs with my G3 and while I found some features that were good I found more that I didn't have. I missed the VZW Visual Voicemail app and the LG camera app. LG has now included the flashlight with the OS and the UI is pretty smooth. I'm happy with the improvements to Lollipop on the V10. I getting an average of 4 and a half ours of Screen On Time with one charge from 100% to 5%. There are days when it's less but I am just happy with the V10. I also loved my G2 and G3 so I was confident that I'd like the V10.
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R4NDR01D said:
Main gripe is lack of root / dev support. My G4 was rooted rather quickly and I never realized just how much Viper4Android did for my music. Sure there's a DAC and AMP, but Viper had a LEGIT equalizer, compression, and the main selling point: Convolution. I realize I'm in the minority here. But actually, 3 of the new features that the G4 didn't have I find don't use. I've literally disabled the 2nd screen entirely since the lack of customization proved it to be useless / distracting to me. Plus that light bleed when the screen was off was annoying. Completely didn't realize there wasn't any LED notification light until it was too late. Wide angle front facing lens is nice, but I'm not much of a selfie person and would have LOVED to have a wide angle rear facing lens more. Front facing camera quality also seems sub-par compared to G4. Battery dies faster on the V10 than it did on the G4. I can't change the DPI on the V10 because the 2nd screen causes any DPI app to FC. Finger print scanner didn't work with any of my cases, but I don't really use a lock screen any ways because I use Gravity Screen. I just really feel dumb for switching...but you don't know what you have til it's gone! Oh well. I learned my lesson. I'm trying to convince my brother-in-law to trade me his G4 for my V10. Wish me luck. ( ^o^)/
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Cant say as that I blame you for wanting a rooted phone back.
As far as the fingerprint scanner, I fixed that issue with some tin foil. You have to make contact with the steel sidebars to get the scanner to work. Mine works great with the caseformer case. I actually use the second screen. I comes in handy especially with the camera. And the camera takes photos in RAW format which makes photoshop editing more precise.
I use poweramp and winamp on this phone and they are great....
But if the V10 is not for you, maybe bro in law will be kind...good luck!