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And for my 1000th post I wish to impart upon you all the knowledge I have just gained this afternoon.
If you upgrade you can keep your unlimited data if you add a home phone line for $20/mo. according the the guy at the Verizon store today.
Went in there to try to get my phone replaced under warranty, which they wouldn't do since it has a cracked screen, threatened to leave VZW and was offered an early upgrade. After I asked if my plan would change he said yes, it would go down to 2gb, but then he told me if I added a home phone line I could have unlimited. I have a home phone with AT&T so I'll just port my number over and I'll be set. (I did buy a Magic Jack that I keep forgetting to hook up but I can sell that and hopefully get a refund for the months of service I paid for.)
EDIT: The phone service is a wireless service. According to jayochs it's called Home Phone Connect.
You mean a land line?
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You mean a land line?
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EDIT: Nope. It's wireless phone for your home, you use a regular phone on a wireless thing.
I will have to do that next time
Last upgrade (when I upgraded to the rezound) my unlimited data carried over, and the lady said that she had never seen that happen before, but I will have to try this if they try to take it away)
I call fibs
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That's some shady **** right there. I have unlimited and had my phone replaced under warranty with no issues. Don't go into the store when doing warranty stuff.
I wonder if Verizon is offering incentives to their store employees to get people off unlimited data. This isn't the first time I've heard of them telling ppl they won't warranty a phone if they don't switch off unlimited
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All you need to do is an alternate upgrade then put the new device back on your line.
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I dont believe it!!! I work for verizon communications (non wireless) and never heard of that. The only thing wireless does for us is fios. Was it a copper landline or fios? Either way if you kept your unlimited data, thats great! Did they give you a contract on the landline?
chaos254 said:
That's some shady **** right there. I have unlimited and had my phone replaced under warranty with no issues. Don't go into the store when doing warranty stuff.
I wonder if Verizon is offering incentives to their store employees to get people off unlimited data. This isn't the first time I've heard of them telling ppl they won't warranty a phone if they don't switch off unlimited
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Sorry, didn't mention my screen is cracked. He said if he did it I'd just get charged for it later so they don't do it anymore.
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I dont believe it!!! I work for verizon communications (non wireless) and never heard of that. The only thing wireless does for us is fios. Was it a copper landline or fios? Either way if you kept your unlimited data, thats great! Did they give you a contract on the landline?
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I'd have to buy a wireless router/receiver(?) for $12 and the phone service is wireless. So technically I guess it isn't a land line... it's home phone service, $20/mo., call waiting, caller ID, nationwide calling...
Still thinking it through and wondering if that's better to pick up a new phone with new contract or buy a used one and keep unlimited without adding the home phone line. Plus I have to decide between the 2 phones he offered me for the same price but I don't want to hijack my own thread.
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Sorry, didn't mention my screen is cracked. He said if he did it I'd just get charged for it later so they don't do it anymore.
I'd have to buy a wireless router/receiver(?) for $12 and the phone service is wireless. So technically I guess it isn't a land line... it's home phone service, $20/mo., call waiting, caller ID, nationwide calling...
Still thinking it through and wondering if that's better to pick up a new phone with new contract or buy a used one and keep unlimited without adding the home phone line. Plus I have to decide between the 2 phones he offered me for the same price but I don't want to hijack my own thread.
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that's called home phone connect. it's a little box that you can bring anywhere and it uses verizons network to make calls, but you can plug normal landline phones into it.
lol my store gives those boxes away for free. you just have to pay that 20 a month, and you get the reciever for nothin
That makes more sense than a land line! They have an ETF if you cancel before 2 years on the home phone connect right?
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That makes more sense than a land line! They have an ETF if you cancel before 2 years on the home phone connect right?
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yeah i think so..it's added like another line to your acct, just like a tablet/jetpack etc
jayochs said:
that's called home phone connect. it's a little box that you can bring anywhere and it uses verizons network to make calls, but you can plug normal landline phones into it.
lol my store gives those boxes away for free. you just have to pay that 20 a month, and you get the reciever for nothin
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Well why don't you come open your damn store in Los Angeles then???
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That makes more sense than a land line! They have an ETF if you cancel before 2 years on the home phone connect right?
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yeah i think so..it's added like another line to your acct, just like a tablet/jetpack etc
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Well there goes my plan of trying to do that cancel thingy like on the hotspot and keep my unlimited. Doesn't sound like it would've worked anyway, seems any change triggers the loss of unlimited from what I've read.
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All you need to do is an alternate upgrade then put the new device back on your line.
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I don't understand. Can you explain what an alternate upgrade is?
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I don't understand. Can you explain what an alternate upgrade is?
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they mean if you have a family plan and another line has the upgrade, you take that, but you upgrade it on that other line...then just do an ESN change to put it to your line, thereby keeping unlimited data, but f'ing up our commissions. lol
i don't do that for customers because then i lose ALL of the commission i would've made. verizon wants you to do alternate upgrades instead of just ESN changes. my store would get charged back all that commission money from verizon at the end of the month because it's not a technical upgrade. if you can find someone who's dumb enough to do it for you, then so be it.....but when you order yourself online, you don't have this problem. only when you goto a store with a physical salesman.
I have read so many threads on unlimited data. Things about being able to keep unlimited on a non family plan, being able to keep it if you pay full retail, this, etc. I am confused. How do I keep it. I certainly don't want this useless box to connect my land phone to lol.
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a store with a physical salesman.
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If my salesman gets physical he's gonna lose a hell of a lot more than his commission.
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If my salesman gets physical he's gonna lose a hell of a lot more than his commission.
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Something tells me you can get very scary .
On a side note, I have one of these, works great. I keep a cordless phone plugged into it and I backfed it into my house wiring for another phone I have.
johnwaynegacy said:
I have read so many threads on unlimited data. Things about being able to keep unlimited on a non family plan, being able to keep it if you pay full retail, this, etc. I am confused. How do I keep it. I certainly don't want this useless box to connect my land phone to lol.
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Don't do anything that modifies your contract and they won't take it away from you. Any other way will be depending on some type of promotion or special allowance. Buy a phone without using an upgrade (either by paying full price or buying used) and you'll keep unlimited data. Using an upgrade discount triggers a contract modification and you lose it.
I picked mine up. .. With a ship date by 11/27!?
I really hope it doesn't take that long.
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November 27? Wow
It sucks indeed along with the $699 full retail price I paid. Whatever though Ive wanted since we never got the first one. Atleast its coming!
Yes the delay is really unacceptable as well as tbe retail price. I will try to order one today, seeimg as there is no rush.
I really think their stalling to let HTC's Droid branded phablet get a jump on sales it's set to release soon too last I heard.
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Am I gonna lose my Unlimited LTE if I get this phone with 2yr contract?
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Am I gonna lose my Unlimited LTE if I get this phone with 2yr contract?
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So... I'm looking to buy this off contract since I'm not loosing my unlimited data. Currently I only have a 3g phone and never had a 4g plan (3g unlimited is mine), would activating a phone that was purchased without a plan make me loose my unlimited, or have a limited 4g plan???
And yeah this delay is ridiculous, it's a good legitimate complaint that could get the upgrade fee waved for some.
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So... I'm looking to buy this off contract since I'm not loosing my unlimited data. Currently I only have a 3g phone and never had a 4g plan (3g unlimited is mine), would activating a phone that was purchased without a plan make me loose my unlimited, or have a limited 4g plan???
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Good question. I'm not sure, about the 3g to 4g, but my guess is you should be fine. You'll need to get a new SIM for 4g. Best bet is to contact Verizon support and ask if it affects your data plan at all. Hold on to it while you can! Rumors have it that the unlimited plan will end this spring.. You may want to do the math and see if it'd be worth it or not.
The only way to avoid the tiered data plans is by purchasing the phone outright. So as long as you're not buying the phone from Verizon at their 2-year contract/upgrade price, you're keeping you're unlimited data.
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Good question. I'm not sure, about the 3g to 4g, but my guess is you should be fine. You'll need to get a new SIM for 4g. Best bet is to contact Verizon support and ask if it affects your data plan at all. Hold on to it while you can! Rumors have it that the unlimited plan will end this spring.. You may want to do the math and see if it'd be worth it or not.
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If it ends this spring I'll buy it on contract I can live (barely) with 2Gb data a month. If I remember correctly the ETF fee is waived if they change your contract terms, not sure if that's if they notify you or not, i.e. a surprise FU from big red is reason to waive the ETF.
I'll get on the phone soon, thanks.
Got mine preordered today. Supposed to ship by 11/27 also. Cost me 740 and change but worth to keep unlimited data. Funny thing is the rep on the phone didnt even know what the note 2 was. Lol. Funny we know this and they dont.
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So... I'm looking to buy this off contract since I'm not loosing my unlimited data. Currently I only have a 3g phone and never had a 4g plan (3g unlimited is mine), would activating a phone that was purchased without a plan make me loose my unlimited, or have a limited 4g plan???
And yeah this delay is ridiculous, it's a good legitimate complaint that could get the upgrade fee waved for some.
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I was bored so i called and asked your above question about coming from 3 to 4g. I spoke with the contract department so they say and they said if u pay full retail u will keep unlimited no matter what as long as its smartphone to smartphone. Going from 3g to 4g phone doesnt matter. Just make sure when u ordered or buy it u make sure u still have unlimited data. When i bought my S3 full retail they changed my unlimited data to one of their BS plans and i had go through over aweek of calling to get it fixed back. I also asked if paying retail to keep unlimited data was going to be ending by next spring and he said there is no imformation or plans to do that. Doesnt mean much since i/we usually know more than their employees do. All i can say is screw u big red for getting rid of unlimited data in the first place.
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Its bull that att is going get it on nov 6 .. why the hell is it taking verizon a month longer to get theres in? Cause of some crappy branding?
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Its bull that att is going get it on nov 6 .. why the hell is it taking verizon a month longer to get theres in? Cause of some crappy branding?
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Branding and locking the bootloader, just like the s3
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thunderbread said:
I was bored so i called and asked your above question about coming from 3 to 4g. I spoke with the contract department so they say and they said if u pay full retail u will keep unlimited no matter what as long as its smartphone to smartphone. Going from 3g to 4g phone doesnt matter. Just make sure when u ordered or buy it u make sure u still have unlimited data. When i bought my S3 full retail they changed my unlimited data to one of their BS plans and i had go through over aweek of calling to get it fixed back. I also asked if paying retail to keep unlimited data was going to be ending by next spring and he said there is no imformation or plans to do that. Doesnt mean much since i/we usually know more than their employees do. All i can say is screw u big red for getting rid of unlimited data in the first place.
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Thanks for the info If they are going to kill unlimited the phone would still be cheaper with the ETF fee paid (by ~$125 assuming they add it to the advanced devices page). If taking a subsidized phone means I have to go onto that BS share everything (get less) for the same price plan that means I'm going to pay full retail.
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Branding and locking the bootloader, just like the s3
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Don't forget VZW navigator and useless bloat ware/garbage like that...
Perhaps the delay is to sell more RAZR HD and Maxxs more than the HTC DLX?
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Its bull that att is going get it on nov 6 .. why the hell is it taking verizon a month longer to get theres in? Cause of some crappy branding?
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I noticed the first feature under multi-tasking is the "multi-window" feature. Since most US carriers dont have that feature from my understanding, maybe its to allow time to include the newest possible firmware? (long shot I know, but im bored and sick of waiting just like you guys and looking for any rays of light)
I am going to complain about the release date to directly to Verizon. I really doubt that they are releasing the phone late to improve anything. It is more likely that they are holding off the release to sell another device (as mentioned above).
Verizon seems to take customer complaints serious. This whole release has been a disaster.
Let me know what you send Ill spam em too
So nowadays with the release of the s5, M8 and the pending LG G3, everybody wants to upgrade their phone, but nobody wants to lose unlimited data. very understandable and there is a method that works perfectly!
Yes we all know that you can buy a phone at full retail price, but who the hell wants to do that? the following instuctions is legal and should work without question.
First and foremost, if you are on the share everything plan you can exit this post because you are already screwed. furthermore if at any point in time you change your plan to the share everything plan all of your unlimited data lines will be gone forever. So don't do it.
Before we start there are a couple prerequisites you need to know.
1) You must still have an unlimited data line that you want to keep.
2) You MUST have a tiered data line on the same account. It does not matter if its a 3g phone or 4g phone. As long as it does not have unlimited data. Yes, you can add an additional line to your account to make this work if all lines are unlimited. However, you will have to pay the activation cost and $30 a month for the next two years or as long as you want to keep the additional line for this purpose. This trick obviously works better if you have a tiered data line cause then your bill will not increase and you will get the same results.
So, without further ado, here it is:
The only time you lose unlimited data is when you either A, switch to the share everything plan or b, upgrade the LINE that has unlimited data. It does not matter where the upgrade comes from, only what line is upgraded. I will provide an example at the end of the post.
1) go to the Verizon store and upgrade you're non unlimited data line to the phone you wish to purchase. Even if that particular line does not have an upgrade you can use an upgrade from any other line even if they have unlimited data. Just make sure that the phone that is upgrade is not the unlimited data line. so now you have used an upgrade from any line on your account to purchase your discounted phone. The phone that you have just bought should be on the line that does not have unlimited data.
2) after you have done that and paid for the phone you simply ask the representative to do a device only change. you put the just purchased phone on whatever number you want it to be on and put the original phone from the non unlimited data line back on the original line. Depending on the store you may have to buy an additional SIM card but you now have a brand new upgraded and discounted phone on your unlimited line and your non unlimited line is exactly as it was when you walked in the store. And that is well worth the price of a SIM card. So essentially, you have just upgraded your unlimited data line to a new phone without losing your data plan or costing you any extra money(minus if u had to buy a sim card).
If you are not familiar with Verizon plans for how this works it may seem complicated. I have provided an example below to make things easier. Feel free to PM me if you need any extra help.
I have spent a decent amount of time writting this guide and A LOT more time responding to posts and PM's. As of 11/19/2013 this thread has been viewed over 21,000 times and only 11 people have taken the time to press the "Thanks" button. Going forward, if you can't take 3 seconds out of your day to kindly rate the thread and/or hit the thanks button , then please don't expect me to answer a 3 paragraph question about your upgrade. This is a reasonable request in my opion. Thanks.
Example
Plan: 2phones 1 w/unlimited (we will call it the gs3)
1 w/2gb data plan( we will call it the Note2)
Availible upgrades: gs3 has an upgrade, note2 does not
1) do an alternate upgrade which means you're using your gs3 lines upgrade to upgrade the note 2 line to whatever phone you want, we will say the GS4.
2) after you do your alternate upgrade you should now have A GS 3 with unlimited data and a GS 4 with a 2 gig data plan.
3) ask the representative 2 then do a device only change and move the GS 4 to the line with the gs3 and unlimited data. put the gs3 sim card in the GS 4 and that line is good to go.
4) now, ask the representative to put the note 2 back on its original line, the one with the two gig data plan. put the original sim card from the note 2 back in the note 2. your SIM card that came with the GS 4 upgrade is now extra. you won't be able to use it for a day or so but you can hang on to it for future use.
5) you should now have a GS 4 with unlimited data and a note 2 with 2 gig data.
This is a very simple procedure unless you get a complete idiot at the store you should have no problem doing so. to the best of my knowledge you can upgrade as many phones using this method on the same account as you want. AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT UPGRADE AN UNLIMITED LINE DIRECTLY YOU WILL BE FINE. My only suggestion is, don't abuse it. don't try to upgrade 3 phones the same day using this method. As I said before, it's not illegal but I'm pretty sure verizon would not be happy with people abusing this loophole so space your upgrades apart a little bit.
I have upgraded to phones on my plan in the last 9 months doing this very message and have had no problems at all. I hope this post helps some people out! The only thing that sucks worse than not upgrading your phone is losing your data or paying $690 for a retail price device. HAPPY UPGRADING!!
Please note, as of August 24, 2014, Verizon changed their policy. Any line upgraded to a smart phone must keep the data package for the 2 year length of the contract. There for, performing the switch with a basic line means it becomes a data line for 2 years.
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I would highly advise doing the device only change with another rep or even at another store. If a device is switched to a different line within 6 months of purchase, it can result in a chargeback for the rep (lose the commission they made off your purchase). I don't know if it differs between corporate and retailers, but I wouldn't do it if somebody asked.
tl;dr = upgrade at one store, device only change at another
dtrichard said:
I would highly advise doing the device only change with another rep or even at another store. If a device is switched to a different line within 6 months of purchase, it can result in a chargeback for the rep (lose the commission they made off your purchase). I don't know if it differs between corporate and retailers, but I wouldn't do it if somebody asked.
tl;dr = upgrade at one store, device only change at another
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Anyone get commission when you order online? I don't want to screw the rep in the store, they're just trying to make a living like the rest of us, they don't set VZW's BS policies. I was thinking order it online, activate the new phone over the phone. Then call back and put the old phone back on the data capped line. Someday, when I get a chance I'll pop into a corporate store and get a new sim on my unlimited line and activate the S4 on that one.
I never deal with corprate stores due to the fact rhat they could not care less about an individual. They have so much traffic they are not imterested in goimg the extra mile. I used to work for a retailer and have done this method at least 10 times, 12 if you include my stuff and also watched countless other reps do rhe same. Nobody ever incured a charge back. I guess you could go to a different store just to be safe but shouldn't be necessary. But I would never choose a corprate store. Tons of bad experiences.
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Anyone get commission when you order online? I don't want to screw the rep in the store, they're just trying to make a living like the rest of us, they don't set VZW's BS policies. I was thinking order it online, activate the new phone over the phone. Then call back and put the old phone back on the data capped line. Someday, when I get a chance I'll pop into a corporate store and get a new sim on my unlimited line and activate the S4 on that one.
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From Verizon's website, I don't believe so. Some retailers allow you to ship a phone to one of their stores, and then whichever rep finishes the process for you gets the commission.
So yeah, it's neutral to buy online. No reps will gain anything or lose anything.
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I would highly advise doing the device only change with another rep or even at another store. If a device is switched to a different line within 6 months of purchase, it can result in a chargeback for the rep (lose the commission they made off your purchase). I don't know if it differs between corporate and retailers, but I wouldn't do it if somebody asked.
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Are you corprate or retailer? Cause I dont know where your getting this chargeback thing. Once the phone is sold its sold. How are they going to hold the representative accountable for a phone that switch lines. even if that's true all you have to do is take the SIM card from your old phone and put it in the new phone and it will work. it doesn't even technically need to be switched in system. especially if both phones are 4G once you switch SIM cards they will be updated automatically in system. I highly doubt that anybody will get charged back for something the customer did. Not to mention, if you are correct, how would going to a different store or a different reps make any difference? according to you there still going to chargeback the person you sold the phone right? I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just saying I'm 99.5 percent sure I'm right. Besides the fact, I'd rather screw a rep out of 5 dollars worth of commission then lose my unlimited data or not upgrade my phone.
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Ask jayochs.. I think he works for a retailer or used to.
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I did this at a Verizon store at a bjs wholesale no problems he knew what he was doing and thanked me for the commission. I specifically travelled to him knowing he was aware how to do it.
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No commission is lost when you do this. I have a couple friends who work at Verizon retail stores and that's how they do it for people that ask to keep their unlimited data.
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This is exactly what I did. Except the Verizon retailer knew about so I didnt have to BS or anything. They got the commission and I got my new GS4.
I went to a Best Buy store, they do everything for you, they don't even charge for the SIM Card, they swap phone and all for you in the spot, I also did the adding a line to my plan so I can get the Galaxy Nexus when it came out, but it's like $17ish a month because of taxes and some fees, At the end of the 2 years you save around $100 bucks, compered to buying the phone full price, but then you'll have another line that you can use the upgrade if you need to.
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I went to a Best Buy store, they do everything for you, they don't even charge for the SIM Card,
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i was told that all verizon stores are supposed to give out sim cards for free, even replacements. the csr told me that if anyone charges for them that i'm supposed to report them.
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i was told that all verizon stores are supposed to give out sim cards for free, even replacements. the csr told me that if anyone charges for them that i'm supposed to report them.
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That is true for corporate stores. Retailers are different because Verizon charges them for the SIM cards that they have.
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I never deal with corprate stores due to the fact rhat they could not care less about an individual. They have so much traffic they are not imterested in goimg the extra mile. I used to work for a retailer and have done this method at least 10 times, 12 if you include my stuff and also watched countless other reps do rhe same. Nobody ever incured a charge back. I guess you could go to a different store just to be safe but shouldn't be necessary. But I would never choose a corprate store. Tons of bad experiences.
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Yeah the person at a cooperate store wouldn't do that method for me so I said F U I'm going to Sprint then and never looked back especially because there lte isn't as saturated here in LA.
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costco
I thought i was doomed as well.
fortunately i bought mine through costco, they will also switch around the accounts for you to activate at $199 for galaxy s4 instead of the full retail price of $699 or whatever it is these days.
My advice, go to costco
An easier way is to do it online cause they give u the option to move the upgrade to any line u want. I have 4 lines. 2 of them have the note 2 on them with the unlimited data plan. The other 2 lines have 2 lg chocolates on them to avoid having to get a data plan on them lines. So if I have an upgrade on one of the lines that have unlimited data on them I just log in and put the upgrade on one of the other 2 lines that dont have unlimited and order and wait for it to come.
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An easier way is to do it online cause they give u the option to move the upgrade to any line u want. I have 4 lines. 2 of them have the note 2 on them with the unlimited data plan. The other 2 lines have 2 lg chocolates on them to avoid having to get a data plan on them lines. So if I have an upgrade on one of the lines that have unlimited data on them I just log in and put the upgrade on one of the other 2 lines that dont have unlimited and order and wait for it to come.
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That's how I got my S4.
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Just upgraded to an s4 with a dumb phone line. Going to get it and switch it to my unlimited data line, then remove the data and put the dumb phone back on the other line. Can't wait to get it on Wednesday!
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An easier way is to do it online cause they give u the option to move the upgrade to any line u want. I have 4 lines. 2 of them have the note 2 on them with the unlimited data plan. The other 2 lines have 2 lg chocolates on them to avoid having to get a data plan on them lines. So if I have an upgrade on one of the lines that have unlimited data on them I just log in and put the upgrade on one of the other 2 lines that dont have unlimited and order and wait for it to come.
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They do that in the store as well. Its call an alternate upgrade. The purpose of my post is to explain in easy to understand teminology , how to use the alternate upgrade switch to your advantage. Whether you do it online, at a store or with Santa Claus makes no difference to me. I just don't want people to give up their plan if there is another way.
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I have an unlimited plan on a 3g phone with an upgrade available, and a dumb phone not eligible for upgrade. I tried this alternate upgrade. method at the vzw store and got to the checkout point, and was told that using the upgrade from the unlimited data line on *any* line will lose unlimited data. I went to a different store and asked there as well, and they said the same thing. I guess I have to wait until the dumb phone is eligible for an upgrade...
I am about to add another line on my "share everything" family plan. I am in need of Internet at my home, and would like to buy a 350$ line and do a assumption of liability account transfer. Problem is I am on a share everything and one line doesn't go out until 2015 (The line I'd like to put unlimited data on) So my question is. How would I go about adding another line and getting unlimited Internet on my s4? While only paying 2 lines.
Galaxy s4 - ends 2015
Galaxy S3 - contract ended can cancel anytime
New line unlimited data.
Any help would be nice, don't want to pay $400 for Internet setting a line up and Verizon find a way to rip it away of me. **I am trying not to let my s3 get the unlimited line** Could I also keep my same numbers? I am new about how all this works. And do you think it's a good investment? Or do you think verizon will rip the plan away from me in a few months either way for all grandfather users?
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I am about to add another line on my "share everything" family plan. I am in need of Internet at my home, and would like to buy a 350$ line and do a assumption of liability account transfer. Problem is I am on a share everything and one line doesn't go out until 2015 (The line I'd like to put unlimited data on) So my question is. How would I go about adding another line and getting unlimited Internet on my s4? While only paying 2 lines.
Galaxy s4 - ends 2015
Galaxy S3 - contract ended can cancel anytime
New line unlimited data.
Any help would be nice, don't want to pay $400 for Internet setting a line up and Verizon find a way to rip it away of me. **I am trying not to let my s3 get the unlimited line** Could I also keep my same numbers? I am new about how all this works. And do you think it's a good investment? Or do you think verizon will rip the plan away from me in a few months either way for all grandfather users?
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If you have an existing line with unlimited data, you'll want to go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2367734 - "How to upgrade without losing unlimited data".
If you don't, I don't think VZ is selling unlimited data plans any longer.
I am buying the unlimited line off ebay. Which would mean I wouldn't need a line and would get rid of my on where contracts up. How would I go about setting these 2 lines up where
1 has unlimited
No more share everything family plan
Keep numbers
And s4 Getz the unlimited plan (which its current one will not go out until 2015) example could I switch my s4 and s3 lines so my s4 is off contract and switch it with the newly unlimited plan putting my s3 on contract again till 2015? Get numbers changed back and somehow get off share everything and keep unlimited data line I purchased for my s4?
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I am buying the unlimited line off ebay. Which would mean I wouldn't need a line and would get rid of my on where contracts up. How would I go about setting these 2 lines up where
1 has unlimited
No more share everything family plan
Keep numbers
And s4 Getz the unlimited plan (which its current one will not go out until 2015) example could I switch my s4 and s3 lines so my s4 is off contract and switch it with the newly unlimited plan putting my s3 on contract again till 2015? Get numbers changed back and somehow get off share everything and keep unlimited data line I purchased for my s4?
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I suggest you read the thread that I pointed you to. It tells you how people have kept their existing unlimited service and transferred it to a new S4. I've not done this, so can't give you the real-world experience that you'll get from that thread. (And buying an unlimited line on eBay? I don't think so - if you buy a phone off of eBay that has unlimited service currently, you'll need to re-apply for service and won't get unlimited AFAIK.)
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I suggest you read the thread that I pointed you to. It tells you how people have kept their existing unlimited service and transferred it to a new S4. I've not done this, so can't give you the real-world experience that you'll get from that thread. (And buying an unlimited line on eBay? I don't think so - if you buy a phone off of eBay that has unlimited service currently, you'll need to re-apply for service and won't get unlimited AFAIK.)
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It is assumption of liability where I take access over another customers plan who originally had unlimited data. I'll read through the thread again see if I can find anything useful, seems like I'm going to have to go up to verizon to make sure they don't mess anything up and I won't waste $400 :/ Basically I need home internet and I'd rather pay 30 for Verizon each month since I get little over 45 mbp/s in my location.
If I am understanding correctly your wanting to merge the unlimited plan/line your getting on eBay with your share everything plan you currently have right?
I don't you can do that, you ate going to need to leave them separate.
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jazzyjames said:
If I am understanding correctly your wanting to merge the unlimited plan/line your getting on eBay with your share everything plan you currently have right?
I don't you can do that, you ate going to need to leave them separate.
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Not 100% correct I want a nationwide plan and off share everything then accept the new link to avoid losing unlimited data. Just don't know the steps I'll go about doing it to get everything set up where my s4 which contracts not ended somehow get on the unlimited line and my s3 take over my s4 contract (if it's even possible) I'll probably end up paying contract early termination fee then getting the lines switched how I want them
I would double check.. I could be wrong I believe Amazon makes you keep it on line for 181 days.. Maybe I'm mistaken with another one.. I'm on the go now so further research is needed for sure..
is this true? If I upgrade my dumb line to the note 3 and then activate it, then after activation switch the note 3 to my unlimited line and dump the data plan on the dumb line, will amazon make me pay or no?
Yes some are bone heads but some aren't. Here's my recent experience.
I have 4 phones on my account with a 10 gig shared data plan. My daughter wanted to move from Sprint to Verizon so my wife and I went to a Verizon store to help her through the transaction. One of the first things I do when I talk to one of the CS reps is state my position and what I want from this conversation with him/her. I like to see what they know or don't know. My rep, John, saw that I wasn't an average clueless customer and he immediately shifted into a smarter mode. Kudos for that.
So, my daughter decides on a Moto X. He runs the numbers and quickly figures out that it's much cheaper for her to join our family plan. No problem, we'll do that. She now pays us monthly for 1/5 of the total bill.
Then he pulls this one: "I'd like for you to look at the Edge plan for that Moto X." Ok, I'm not dumb, I've read all about the Edge plan. Yes it's no contract and yes you can switch to a new phone after a year but you pay for the phone as you go. I've looked at the numbers and it never makes sense to get Edge unless you just can't wait to upgrade phones. But boy do you pay for it.
Right now my opinion of John is changing. He's trying to pull a fast one. So I object saying, "I'm not interested in Edge." He comes back with, "What if I can prove it saves you money?" "OK, wise guy," I'm thinking, "do you take me for an idiot? Show me how smart you are, bonehead." Instead, I say, "Really? How?"
And he shows me. The way the Edge program works is that the monthly cost of the phone on an Edge plan is retail cost divided into 20 months. In the case of the Moto X it's $400 retail or $20 per month. Turns out if you have a 10 gig, or higher, data plan they discount the Edge program by $25 for EACH phone on the Edge plan. So, in her case the $20 plan minus the $25 discount reduced the plan by $5 compared to a 2 year subsidized contract. "So," I thought, "this guy really knew what he was doing."
Other advantages to Edge: The phone can be upgraded after 60% of the retail price is paid off. That's 12 months. If you want to trade it in sooner than 12 months then pay the difference to get up to 60%. This is a trade-in, you don't keep the phone. However, if you do keep the phone for 20 months it's yours to keep, no trade in necessary.
The break even point is phone that retails for $500. At that point the monthly payment is $25 and the discount is $25.
An HTC One and LG G2 are break even on Edge. A Note 3, S5 and LG G3 are only $5 more on Edge. All in all, it turns out, Edge is a pretty good deal if you have the 10 Gig plan.
In the end, my daughter was happy, I'm happy and it was a great experience. So, not all CS reps are idiots.
Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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Nice too bad I have unlimited and won't be going the edge route
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You can say that again
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You can say that again
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Yeah. Because of how much data I use, they told me they would give me all the deals of a more everything plan plus 20% off my whole bill. Then I said I already have 20% off through a worker who worked there years ago. They said it would add on top of that. So 40% off plus what ever more eveything. But given how much data I use, wouldn't do anything for me.
You lost me at "some aren't"
Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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Deekayy said:
Nice experience. Not sure why you keep calling him a bone head in your mind. If you knew about the edge and the savings you get (-$25 for 10gb), then the sale would be as easy as in and out. But then again looks like you didn't know of that last part about the savings. Anyways congrats on your new phone purchase.
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For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
TabGuy said:
For now. The days of unlimited are coming to an end. Before long the only to keep unlimited data is to never change your phone.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
droidstyle said:
As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
TabGuy said:
First of all, if you read your contract you'll see that they have the right to change the contract at any time. In essence, legally, they can boot you off of unlimited data anytime they want. There's nothing you can do about it, you signed the contract. Right now they won't do that because there are too many unlimited plan customers, including my phone, that it would get bad press.
Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
Right now the only way left to keep unlimited data is to buy a full phone at full price, not a discounted price. However, I expect to see that change in the future. I believe that within the next 12 months Verizon will change their policy with regard to unlimited. They won't kill it but you will lose it if your phone's MEID changes. In effect, the only way to keep unlimited data is to never change to a different phone. Lose your phone, break your phone, or upgrade to a new phone and your unlimited data plan will go away. Verizon has stated LOUD AND CLEAR that they don't like unlimited data plans and that they will eventually end.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
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This forum has a link about the future of unlimited data. Basically Verizon will begin throttling people who use more data than they deem profitable.
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Yes I am well aware...see my posts in that thread.
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First of all if you are not on a contract then they can not change anything.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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If you aren't under contract then they can do anything. They could end your unlimited data tomorrow and you'd have absolutely no recourse.
Edit: You are always under contract, the one you signed when you first joined Verizon. The phone may be paid off but the contact always exists as long as you use their network. You are just under the month-to-month portion of the contract.
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No you are not under a contract when month to month. There are no binding terms keeping me locked to any set rules or conditions. However, there is the TOS I agreed to back when I first joined. Aside from that I have been a VZW customer for 15yrs and they have never ended or terminated any service I have had with them. They may discontinue a older plan, but they have never forced me off of any plan I was on. I have no reason to believe they would start doing such things. Just because they did away with the loop hole(add a line/transfer device/put dumb phone on added line) to keep unlimited does not mean they are going to start forcing people off thier unlimited plans. Even if they did, I would simply jump on a shared plan...it is what it is.
Boy did I luck out. Just read this about august 24th. I got a note 3 yesterday! Still unlimited.... and my upgrade I'd in November, seems like people better get their phones now! So what if you buy a used phone and swap sims?? Post Aug 24th...
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Another loophole changes in August were people would have someone on their family plan buy a new phone and they switched the SIM card to be able to upgrade their phone without paying full price. That goes away on August 24th.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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That's not true, the only loop hole they are closing is that if you add a new line to get a smartphone you have to keep the data plan on that phone. You can still use an upgrade on another smartphone line then transfer the SIM, or if you have an upgrade on your unlimited, transfer it to another smartphone do the upgrade then swap the SIM cards(this is what I just did a couple of months ago). So basically I have an unlimited line and my wife has a tiered plan, we both get to use our upgrades, we just have to do the transfer gimmick.
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Exactly... +1
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As. Long as wee keep our current unlimited plans and buy our devices outright then I do not see how they can legally boot us off of unlimited.
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I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
bairste said:
I worked for Verizon, and have recently left to pursue other opportunities. I posed this very same thought to my account manager. She said that the most likely scenario is that there will be a point when they will absolutely remove unlimited data. They can say we are sorry but that phone cannot be put on a line with unlimited data. You have to also scour the terms and conditions. The company does reserve the right to terminate any plans and change existing plans. This is whether or not you are in contract. I am pretty sure they have a legal team that has already discussed this. I always see threats by people saying they will leave and go to this company or that company; but let's face it, choices for phone companies are very limited. You go to T-Mobile and you have limited areas, same with Sprint. The two companies that are in control are Verizon and AT&T. They have effectively formed a duopoly. It is not by accident that they have nearly the same exact plans. All I am saying is enjoy the data while you have it.
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the problem with putting any stock in what your account manager says is the simple fact that one could speak to 10 different account managers and get 10 different answers.
Amen to that, verizon employees must not have group trainings as they All seem to have a different answer for you.
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Most people do not realize the 25 dollar credit per edge line per month on the bill.
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