I'm still running the original stock VZW/HTC ROM. I know, I know, slow adopter... I'd like to root and go with a ROM that delivers better battery life and a basic debloat. However, nearly every ROM I read about seems to have a major (in my humble opinion) flaw. A non working camera or video camera, non working voicemail notification, malfunctioning signal strength bars, no 4G, etc., etc.
Is my only choice really a Froyo ROM? I'm not willing to stomach any major loss of functionality (or apps), be it phone, camera, calendar, GPS, navigation, various google apps, Bluetooth, WiFi, 3G and 4G, working signal strength bars, etc. I guess I am also in the "I prefer Sense" group but also have not given non Sense ROMs any time.
If responding I kindly request a few sentences of explanation/clarification rather than just saying "Get ROM X, it rocks, it is the best". Thanks in advance.
Everything works on most the gb roms, with some needing certain fixes to fix certain things. Gingeritis 3d, with chingys new radio is tits imho
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Well, I'm not going to give you a few sentences, but I can tell you that I use Gingerth3ory (link in my siggy) and everything works, including vvm as long as you apply the bootable zip fix for that. Before, vvm was the only thing not working.
Camera, videocamera, wifi, 3g, 4g all work. I switched to youmail for vvm because I wanted netflix over stock vvm so that meant a GB ROM.
I highly recommend Droid Theory's latest Senseless Rom. This is the smoothest and quickest ROM of his yet and that is saying something. There is a large mod community if you're interested in that. Most importantly, DT is very responsive and provides great support. He will be coming out with an update very soon to fix the market issue.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176922
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187545
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187545
Just showing there's been 3-4 other similar posts in the past few hours, just to avoid fragmenting answers or not getting the answer you wanted.
Just follow my link in my signature.
Synergy is the way to go.
Thanks folks.
OK we have votes for Gingeritis 3d, Gingerth3ory and Droid Theory's latest Senseless Rom. Has anyone ran more than one of these? Any important compare/contrast between them? I care much more about stability and battery life over eye candy. Those are my top 2 concerns. If those things are improved over the stock VZW/HTC ROM I should be happy. The biggest problems with this stock ROM for me are maintaining a data connection when switching from 3G to 4G and back. Also the speed of the GPS lock is very slow. How are these things in these recommended ROMs?
(yareally: You posted 2 identical links but mentioned 4 threads. Yes the questions in some of these were related to mine but certainly were not identical request.)
I'm going to venture a guess you haven't actually looked at the threads or the dev's pages. Most have a thread for bug reports. GB ROMs are about as solid as any OTA these days. If you're new to flashing DO NOT, DO NOT use Synergy. It's a frankenstein project with no official stable release and a constant onslaught of nightlies with no end in sight. STAY AWAY FROM NIGHTLIES. Try BAMF. Try Gingeritus. Try Eaton. Try GING3R3DTH3ORY. Try something that's known to work and isn't revised several times a week. From the sounds of it, Eaton might be what you want. It looks and works very much like stock.
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Thanks folks.
OK we have votes for Gingeritis 3d, Gingerth3ory and Droid Theory's latest Senseless Rom. Has anyone ran more than one of these? Any important compare/contrast between them? I care much more about stability and battery life over eye candy. Those are my top 2 concerns. If those things are improved over the stock VZW/HTC ROM I should be happy. The biggest problems with this stock ROM for me are maintaining a data connection when switching from 3G to 4G and back. Also the speed of the GPS lock is very slow. How are these things in these recommended ROMs?
(yareally: You posted 2 identical links but mentioned 4 threads. Yes the questions in some of these were related to mine but certainly were not identical request.)
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last one was a miscopy, there was another one at least on the front page, but I was half asleep at the time. I said 3 to 4 btw, not 4. There have been lots though of rom reccomendation postings though and felt you would get a better idea by reading what other people had asked already.
i'm using Synergy with the "06275r" radio and the dreamKernal. i also have SetCPU on set to "performance". it runs really smooth and the battery life is better then stock.
i've tried pretty much every ROM out there and have had this running for several days now. i like it and will keep it for a tad bit longer(why just a tad? i can't help it.. i like to keep trying new ROM's)
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If you're new to flashing DO NOT, DO NOT use Synergy. It's a frankenstein project with no official stable release and a constant onslaught of nightlies with no end in sight. STAY AWAY FROM NIGHTLIES....Try something that's known to work and isn't revised several times a week.
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I have to disagree. Just because Synergy is updated every night does not mean you must flash reflash every day. The nightlies have very minor revisions (adding HTC Car Panel, changing the host file for better ad blocking, changing the Market icon color, changing the email splash screen, etc). If you don't need the newest revisions, then don't flash the latest nightly until something comes along that you really want/need. Synergy nightlies aren't released because it is an unstable rom. Quite the contrary. I have tried roms from 4 other devs and Synergy is the fastest & smoothest of them all. The only time I've had lockups or reboots is when I overclocked too much, which would have happened on any rom.
Don't be dissuaded from trying Synergy because there are nightly updates. If anything, that should tell you the devs are committed to making it better.
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I have to disagree. Just because Synergy is updated every night does not mean you must flash reflash every day. The nightlies have very minor revisions (adding HTC Car Panel, changing the host file for better ad blocking, changing the Market icon color, changing the email splash screen, etc). If you don't need the newest revisions, then don't flash the latest nightly until something comes along that you really want/need. Synergy nightlies aren't released because it is an unstable rom. Quite the contrary. I have tried roms from 4 other devs and Synergy is the fastest & smoothest of them all. The only time I've had lockups or reboots is when I overclocked too much, which would have happened on any rom.
Don't be dissuaded from trying Synergy because there are nightly updates. If anything, that should tell you the devs are committed to making it better.
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I don't agree with that and I'll tell you why. Let's say I tell Joe Bob to go try synergy. He does, and downloads who knows what on whatever night. Then he has a problem... Now what? Try to decipher Ziggy's advice? Try another nightly version? As far as I'm concerned nightlies are for developers. I think that because that been the whole point of nightlies from the beginning. I'm pretty sure CM was the first, but even they did that in support of a release candidate aiming towards an official release. I wouldn't tell someone "Go try a CM nightly!" even if they were looking mostly solid. I've read almost all of the thread for synergy. It's hardly a work without error. I don't believe that project is dedicated to producing reliable ROMs. They show no sign of such in any form, be it a release candidate or a final release. It appears to be a few developers tinkering and experimenting, in many cases against the law, and I cannot in good faith suggest someone fresh on the scene jump into one of the most convoluted ROMs for the Thunderbolt.
I've been using nightlies for INC and they've all been stable for the past several months. They just keep adding features. At first it sort of bugged me that I never had the most updated version but then I just lived with staying with my version for several months until I got bored enough to flash the latest.
If nightlies isn't your thing then that's fine but I don't see a reason to tell other users to stay away from them. Generally they *will* have more bugs because the dev's don't thoroughly check the ROM's before they release - they expect the people who flash to find the bugs and then they fix it in the next releases, but after a while all those bugs are gone- then they move to adding a new feature and that may have a bug, and the cycle continues.
But in most cases these bugs are very minor and overall the ROM is superior in performance / battery / features than other ROM's.
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I've been using nightlies for INC and they've all been stable for the past several months. They just keep adding features. At first it sort of bugged me that I never had the most updated version but then I just lived with staying with my version for several months until I got bored enough to flash the latest.
If nightlies isn't your thing then that's fine but I don't see a reason to tell other users to stay away from them. Generally they *will* have more bugs because the dev's don't thoroughly check the ROM's before they release - they expect the people who flash to find the bugs and then they fix it in the next releases, but after a while all those bugs are gone- then they move to adding a new feature and that may have a bug, and the cycle continues.
But in most cases these bugs are very minor and overall the ROM is superior in performance / battery / features than other ROM's.
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Please read what I wrote. I would not tell a NEW user to try a nightly. That would be stupid. The last thing some virgin flasher needs is to flash some nightly that got some new test kernel cooked into and its quirky as hell, or some jazz like that. We ALL wanted our first flash to work and not freeze or crash. I'm telling a NEW user to stay away from nightlies, not the experienced guy. I don't care how stable one night's version might be, or if almost all of them are. They are test beds and you don't know what you're getting night to night. And NO nightly I've ever used has been quirk-free.
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Please read what I wrote. I would not tell a NEW user to try a nightly. That would be stupid. The last thing some virgin flasher needs is to flash some nightly that got some new test kernel cooked into and its quirky as hell, or some jazz like that. We ALL wanted our first flash to work and not freeze or crash. I'm telling a NEW user to stay away from nightlies, not the experienced guy. I don't care how stable one night's version might be, or if almost all of them are. They are test beds and you don't know what you're getting night to night. And NO nightly I've ever used has been quirk-free.
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Well.. I've had plenty quirk-free. But the Incredible nightlies are more polished than the thunderbolts.
I think you shouldn't tell them not to flash a nightly, just warn them of possible issues and explain to them what they are (and they would see this anyway because every nightly thread I've been to explains this)
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Well.. I've had plenty quirk-free. But the Incredible nightlies are more polished than the thunderbolts.
I think you shouldn't tell them not to flash a nightly, just warn them of possible issues and explain to them what they are (and they would see this anyway because every nightly thread I've been to explains this)
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if someone is starting a thread like this, reading threads probably ain't in their game plan. I don't give advice to strangers I wouldn't give to a friend. You run something like a version of BAMF and you're running something a dev has hung his hat on. Not so with a nightly because there will be another tomorrow night! Telling a noob to try a nightly, regardless of stability, is like telling your kid to learn to drive behind the wheel of a Kenworth. If something goes wrong, its going to become a bigger deal than it would be if the guy had flashed 2 or 3 ROMs. This seems real obvious to me. Are you forgetting your first experience rooting and flashing ROMs? I'm not gonna warn someone of the dangers of doing something I consider stupid. I will say "If you want to do something stupid, go flash a nightly for your first ROM. If your LUCKY it will all work right. If it doesn't, go fly a kite because you're own your own, bro."
Thanks for the further comments. Let's not try to get too side tracked on one ROM with many nightlies. I definitely prefer to steer clear of a ROM with nightlies. I'd like to let others do all that valuable beta testing and simply benefit from their work. Selfish - sure but uncommon - no.
Just to clarify some personal details that may help with recommendations. I've read many of the posts here from the devs themselves on their ROMs. However, slogging through hundreds of pages on a small handful of ROMs is not my idea of fun... I'm quite computer/phone literate but have not done programming in years. I also work in the software industry. After years of crappy and unstable WinMo devices and plenty of random freezes, resets and data loss, I've found a pretty nice new home with Android. I'm not afraid to experiment, trouble shoot, etc. However, I want a phone to USE much more than to constantly tinker, repair, troubleshoot, etc. I'd like a really mature, stable bulletproof ROM along with the ability to have GB and keep Sense. It is incredibly difficult for me to read the oftentimes massive features lists on the first page of any given ROM thread and distinguish it from other competing offerings. Despite being pretty computer literate, most of those pages are nearly entirely "greek" to me.
Perhaps there is no single best ROM or recommendation but I am going to continue to read all the replies here and hopefully get my choice narrowed down. Of course I realize no ROM choice is permanent. I'll just say again I like to USE my device rather than constantly "tinker".
Cheers.
InfuseTh3ory ... Try it.
Since you like Sense then check out Gingeritis
http://www.themikmik.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=271
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gingertheory is a nice solid build that I've been running the last couple of weeks. No big deal breakers as far as bugs.
Hi, I'm a bit new to the flashing roms and rooting scene for android so I was wondering if someone can answer a few questions for me.
What is the difference between the ICS Passion rom and the CM9 Nightly build? And what does it mean by nightly does that just mean its not stable?
I'm running on eclair for my vibrant and its just sluggish and not attractive. I'm just interested in running something smooth and has a stock ICS interface. I don't really need certain features like face unlock, gps, so these aren't much of a concern for me. So what would you guys recommend for me to use? One thing to note is that I'm not too keen on heavy customizing, I just like something simple, not complicated, minimalistic/clean.
Also I play on taking this phone to a different country, namely Korea. Would I be able to use a sim card from a Korean carrier and use the phone that's running a custom ICS rom?
Once I root my phone, is that the same thing as unlocking? How do I unlock my phone?
Sorry if some of these are repeat questions, the amount of information in this forum overwhelms me and I couldn't really find any clear answers.
Thank you!
Ok . Here we go..
Passion is based on cm9 with some added tweaks. Cm9 nightlies are auto generated builds synced and built every night.(hence the name nightlies) they are usually fairly stable but their purpose is to find a stable version. (Cm7 took like 150 night ies before stable, cm is very thorough)
I like cm9 over passion, more clean but overall I like aokp
Depends on the bands of Korea carrier for 3g but you should be able to get voice SMS for sure.
Rooting is not unlocking. T-Mobile doesn't really care about a 2 year old phone so they usually give unlock code otherwise there are unlocking tools out there
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Just "completing" the upper post, you can find unlocking softwares for Samsung Vibrant at Google Market (Google Play)...
About the stable/simple/stock ROM... is a matter of preference...
I really like Passion ROM...
Wow thank you guys for the detailed information. Really appreciate it
Can someone also tell me what the difference between the CM9 nightlies and passion is? I've had some experience with CM7 gingerbread and I really liked their work.
Also I read that the passion is also not completely smooth while the CM9 runs very smooth. For someone like me who doesn't have much experience with flashing, should I just install the passion?
My advice is to try them both and see for yourself. Test each one for a couple of days to get the feel for both of them. This way you can decide for yourself which one is stable. I would also suggest trying ICZen which I have been using for over a month now.
Just rooted my SGS2 with this forums help after got fed up with Samsungs decision to delay even further ICS release for sim free owners. Flashed Pure 7.2 rom and am kinda happy with it. But would like to give a try other roms too. Pure seems to be so much better battery wise then stock. Google experience and most important no bloatware.
Am looking for a smooth and battery friendly rom. Am looking forward for a stable CyanogenMod 9 release but till now exploring the option.
Many thanks in advance ...
There si no such thing as the best rom. The best rom is the one that you prefer, take a look around the SII page and try a few. When you have gone through a few choose which you like and stick with that one
If you want a solid rom then go for checkrom which is gb and based on tw but there is no fully stable ics rom...wait for cm9 to get stable.
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actually there are a few roms that are quite stable... omega, litening as well as wanam are the ones i ve used so far.... although there is still a lot of improvement for these roms, if you wanna check out ics I think they are good enough to give them a try...
Posts like this are usually closed as best does not exist and the same question will be posted thousands of times in a year .
Try them all .
jje
thanks for your input
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Posts like this are usually closed as best does not exist and the same question will be posted thousands of times in a year .
Try them all .
jje
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Thank you everyone who took their time to post here for me and maybe other interested. Firstly I do really understand that there is no such thing as best. And I really never meant to ask for a best rom. I just wanted advise on what would be at least worth to start to try. Which ones are better out there. I just started rooting as really got fed up with Samsungs delays and some really unnecessary for my liking apps included (like bbc iplayer etc)... There are so many roms that I would not really want trying all. Therefore seeking for advise for some better roms out there. And not in their experimental or so stage.
Thanks @frankimm but as you mentioned its not fully stable yet I will skip it on this occasion.
Thanks @pokkas88 I was actually considering lite'ning rom myself. Will check on omega.
My first flash was and is Pure ICS v7.2. It is nice and stable. yesterday with my regular usage got more then 24 out my regular usage. Where on stock 2.3.4 would last only half a day... But something is not right with contacts there. Was lagging when trying to organised and join contacts (google, facebook, skype...) and phone app seems laging a bit too. therefore a bit annoying. otherwise solid and stable rom....
Still hope to hear more opinions...
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forgot to mentioned. Roms with better support from other developers would be probably priority. What I mean the roms that get dedicated addons as I undestadand addons are compatible only with certain roms. And would not really want to get creative in trying to force addons whilst am still learning here...
I highly recommend Hydrog3n rom - I've upgraded to this from Check ROM, prior to finding this I tried several other ICS AOKP to find stability issues, I have to say this is a fantastic rom and cannot recommend you try it enough.
Failing this, Check ROM was great; I had issues with it rebooting or not reconnecting to my mobile network if I lost signal, and ultimately I wanted to do away with Stock so I went for an AOKP rom.
Omega is my fav especially black blue theme
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My hones opinion and just in the process of deleting ICS rom number twelve . Non are up to scratch and ICS is not as good as 2.3.6 .
jje
I recommend "Resurrection ics remix" by westcrip. it is really stable. And soon he will publish 4.0.4 AOKP. just give him a try
Just try them all until you like one, there is no other way
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Hey Xda people,
So this is my situation. I have a HTC senseation and I am using to updating roms etc. However I have a friend with HTC legend where her stock rom has stopped working, the touch freezes. So I said I would help root and put a new rom on.
I have been reading the extensive forum and found lots of conflicting information. Which normally would be fine because if I found a rom did like it I would change it straight away. However this is for a friend that's it not tech savvy, and it need to work right and be the best first time around. So I need help in choosing the right rom and radio firmware etc. The requirements are quite simple her is not a power user. important things a battery life and stability.
please help
Regards
Mac Tzu
My opinion, for simplicity, stability, reliability, performance & where everything simply "works", you can't go past cyanogen mod, latest stable is 7.2 (there have been some nightly's released since 7.2 came out which work for me without issue). If you want something a bit more fancy go for homICS its based on cm7.2 anyway,with quite a few tweeks of course these are all gingerbread 2.3.7 there are a few froyo roms that are also pretty much perfect eg. blay0s b0.8.4 & some others I can't think of as I type that would also be worth considering.
There are plenty of other great roms too, but I didn't specificaly mention any of them as they are pretty much still W.I.P. and not quite 100% yet, but it might be worth having a read through the associated threads anyway...
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ranger4740 said:
My opinion, for simplicity, stability, reliability, performance & where everything simply "works", you can't go past cyanogen mod, latest stable is 7.2 (there have been some nightly's released since 7.2 came out which work for me without issue). If you want something a bit more fancy go for homICS its based on cm7.2 anyway,with quite a few tweeks of course these are all gingerbread 2.3.7 there are a few froyo roms that are also pretty much perfect eg. blay0s b0.8.4 & some others I can't think of as I type that would also be worth considering.
There are plenty of other great roms too, but I didn't specificaly mention any of them as they are pretty much still W.I.P. and not quite 100% yet, but it might be worth having a read through the associated threads anyway...
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Fanatasic,
I will read up homICS
thank you
Hi there,
I have a i717. For the past several months, I had been running CM 10 stable build (10.1.3 I believe), but found it to be anything but stable...Lots of random reboots, screen no always very responsive on attempted wake...It got bad enough that I went back to my previous ROM, waaay back to FlapJaxx's Build 12. FJ's ROM is incredibly stable, always has been and I'm very tempted to just roll with this until my contract is up...but at the same time, this is Android version 4.0.4 so it makes me feel a bit old fashioned.
It seems much of the community here has moved onto other phones, so my options may be limited...but anyone got a shout out for a good STABLE ROM?
Besides the rock solid stability of FlapJaxx, I am also generally impressed with the battery life (on CM 10 it was pretty awful), and IMHO BLN is superior to Dynamic Notifications...
Now I am pretty sure that my reliance on BLN will limit my options, but I'm just curious what other options folks here might recommend.
Thanks in Advance.
If you want stable, stick with the stock 4.1.2 version. Or any stock version for that matter.
No one will be able to tell you what custom rom is stable but you. Not all devices will perform the same for 2 different people. What suits one person might not perform the same for another. Xda recommends you try all the custom roms and see what works best for you.
Thanks, clearly I've been out of the loop didn't even realize there was a stock JB update on the phone...I'll blame my kids
As near I can tell, if I want a rooted/de-bloated stock MD3 experience I'm looking at Padawan or Blackstar?
Since these use stock kernel, will BLN work or if I absolutely must have BLN working am I stuck with a 4.0.4 kernel?
Thanks again...
440bro said:
If you want stable, stick with the stock 4.1.2 version. Or any stock version for that matter.
No one will be able to tell you what custom rom is stable but you. Not all devices will perform the same for 2 different people. What suits one person might not perform the same for another. Xda recommends you try all the custom roms and see what works best for you.
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XDA is a development site not a support site. As such members are expected to do the research, read through the development threads and decide what is BEST for them. The only results that would be posted here are what each member has found to be BEST for them by experimentation based on their phone/usage/setup/apps/signal strength. Please take the time to read through those development threads to learn all about the software you are about to drastically alter your very expensive device with.
Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your cooperation.
EFM
Have a great day!