Hi guys, I have the Rock Jaw Vi phone which by all sense and purpose seems to be a clone of the HTC One. It's Quad Core with 2 mega pixel camera on the front and 8 mega pixel on the back. The case and all outward appearances are that of the HTC, the phone info screen displays the following ...
Model Number = RJViJGTL32SM
Andoid version 4.2.1
Baseband version = moly.wr8.w1248.md.wg.mp.v6.p8,2013/08/12 15:55
Kernel version 3.4.5 [email protected] #1 Mon Aug 19 16:54:14 CST 2013
Build Number = 0502H026_20130819
I can get into the boot options screen by doing the On/Volume Down press but the menu's are all in Chinese and just seem to go through self diagnostics and tests. I can drag n drop file from Mac OSx but none of the apps I have found so far will communicate with the phone via USB. I am trying to get root so i can do a full back-up and then to try and put HTC Android 4.3 on it.
Do you guys have any idea on how I can achieve this or to get the phone to display it's boot options in English ?
I am pretty much clueless and stuck, any advice, tips, hacks etc would be really appreciated
I did follow a link at one stage on the web that went to SRSroot but their tool was windows only
Hmmm More messing with the phone has revealed power on with volume up depressed gets me to some very small text menu with the options;
Boot Normal
Fastboot
Boot(UART)
Boot UART is all the test screens that I was getting in Chinese but now they are touch screen buttons and labeled in english ao that's good to know.
Using fastboot-mac from HTCRootOne tries to talk to it but comes back with error: could not clear input pipe; result -536854449, is this something that's platform specific, ie it's not a true HTC so the version of fastboot-mac is no good and needing a non specific version ?
Ok that error is generated to the oem get_identifier_token...
If i do a fastboot-mac devices i get the reply "mt6589_phone_720pv2 fastboot" ...
I'm getting there slowly
Done some more digging with the phone attached to the Mac here and checking my systems profile I see that the phone is listed under usb connections as seen in the screen grab, still referring the as a HTC. Getting a new usb cable delivered to see if the phones usb cable provided is for charging only. If anyone here has any other suggestions I would be all ears or eyes as the case might be
Done more grubbing around and have found it to be a HDC One, HTC One clone .... Now to go see if any are rooted on here
Can anyone help me
Well i am pretty much stuck here so if anyone is reading this and wants to offer some help and advice I could do with it
I have looked around on the phone and can't see any bin or system folders even with show hidden i can't find them.
adb wont give me a remote shell, it complains that there is no bin/bash
when i try and do an adb backup i get 0 byte files grrrrr!!
I still need to find a way of getting root
This phone is a tricky beast for a learner - lol
Install some file explorer that allows you to browse from the top folder (/). I'm pretty sure you'll find at least /system there.
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Install some file explorer that allows you to browse from the top folder (/). I'm pretty sure you'll find at least /system there.
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Thanks Gbl08ma - I have have it opened in Mac osx finder with show all files hidden or otherwise - The phone shows as two "No Name" devices and get mounted immediately on connection ....
I used sideload to push a package file over using adb and then went back to use Finder, and I can't see the file anywhere - hidden partition perhaps ? Can you do that with Android ?
Even the Android SDK file transfer app wont see the phone when it's connected, I am all very confused - lol
Thanks for the reply - Wonder if i can use disk utility to so some probing and at least get an ISO image file incase I goof things real bad - lol
TpwUK
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Thanks Gbl08ma - I have have it opened in Mac osx finder with show all files hidden or otherwise - The phone shows as two "No Name" devices and get mounted immediately on connection ....
I used sideload to push a package file over using adb and then went back to use Finder, and I can't see the file anywhere - hidden partition perhaps ? Can you do that with Android ?
Even the Android SDK file transfer app wont see the phone when it's connected, I am all very confused - lol
Thanks for the reply - Wonder if i can use disk utility to so some probing and at least get an ISO image file incase I goof things real bad - lol
TpwUK
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/ does not get mounted over USB so you won't see /bin, /system, /data or anything other than the SD card and the internal FAT32 "user" partition when entering USB transfer mode.
You must do it on the device. And for adb to work, USB debugging must be enabled in the settings.
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/ does not get mounted over USB so you won't see /bin, /system, /data or anything other than the SD card and the internal FAT32 "user" partition when entering USB transfer mode.
You must do it on the device. And for adb to work, USB debugging must be enabled in the settings.
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I already had the phone in usb debug mode. Had to set the phone to use usb as MTP and not mass storage device connection type. Now it allows me to get in to the blighter with adb, fastboot still errors with pipes. That method allows me to get adb shell running and i can get android file transfer .... back to the reading part again
Thanks for the information gbl08ma - if i can find a way to back-up the rom i will share it somewhere
Hmm yummy - lots of interesting things in there .... Forgive my ignorance again please, but if i can create an update.zip file from the shell on the device that compresses all files from \ and all subdirs would that be the same thing as a safe ROM backup ? i wanna be safe before i attempt to root the phone as someone on here has a lower spec version of this phone and says it's a partial brick now.
TpwUK
Rooted
This phone is easily rooted with the motochopper
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40747604
Now should I push my luck further and go for the ROM - lol
TpwUK
I believe i own the same mobile
@tpwuk01
I also asked the same here; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180425&page=92
but i was only able to root using frama root app, and it worked like a charm, but thats the only thing i could achieve, dont know but it seems theres no official thread of developement going on for any cloned device, mine runs the MOLY.WR8.W1248.MD.WG.MP.V6.P8 2013/08/12 15:55 Baseband.
After root i just installed some root apps, ads blockers, cant get any recovery to work, (Playing safe actually not to brick this now, since no support yet) but would have appreciated trying out kitkat on it, using antutu to view up specs, its impressive, i got to find out our 13MP camera at the back can do a great job than it currently is we only need to figure out how to change the image compression, the one i stumbled upon online was the blast, the 13MP was great also the flash light was tweaked to be 50X its current brightness, our 1GB application space was increased to 3.5GB, GPS and the rest was also modded to work really great.
Would like to hear any new updates you stumble upon bro.
Still a nice and featured packed device.
Related
Today I tried to flash the CyanogenMod 9 Nightly 06-30-12, coming from Build 35 of AOKP and after factory resetting and clearing Dalvik I went to install the zip and while flashing it I got a build-prop related error!
All of my NANDROIDS gave me a data error when flashing and now I am pretty f'd! I /really/ need to fix this ASAP but have no idea how.
-Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 Wifi-
-CWM 4-
On a second note, does anywhere know where I can get my screen replaced for cheap? I dropped my tab a few months back and the screen got MAJOR cracked, though it still does technically work (I still use the screen, it works but it's cracked is all...) and after calling Samsung and waiting for over 1 and a half hours they told me they wanted $150 to fix it, which if I recall is about half of what I payed for it anyway...
To be honest, I'd be lying if I said I was happy with Samsung over all.
I mean, bad customer support, the proprietary connection cable, and lack of official updates (along with the ugly TouchWiz that I'm not sure /who/ likes ) don't make me that happy...
Anyway, can anyone help me please?
Thanks in advance!
Update your recovery: http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/?p=2655
If you have a GT-P7510 (p4wifi), in this post are flashable zips (with your current recovery) of CWM and TWRP, in case you prefer this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28051448&postcount=29
After that, flash your ROM like always.
Yeah, thanks, were it so easy. I fired up ODIN multiple times, no matter what, unsuccessful. Like always, my computer would not recognize my tablet. Yes, I have the bloody Samsung drivers, yes I've tried reinstalling them (several times in the last few months), yes I've tried using different USB ports! And what? Nothing. Nothing at all. For the last few months I have not been able to transfer movies/music to my tablet via file transfer and I can't even get the stupid odin download thing to work. To be honest, I really am pissed off with this broken pile of trash. Would trade it in for a similar tablet any time.
Did you try any of the flashable zips for a new recovery?
About the USB, it sounds like a different problem, but for the file transfers, are you sure you have MTP selected? (answer #5 --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642009 )
If you haven't tried it yet, you could use a different computer, another OS (some Linux distro and check that adb works), change the USB cable.
I can't use a flashable zip since I can't copy files onto the tablet >.>
Also, yes, for file transfers I /do/ have MTP selected always and it doesn't work eitherway.
Essentially, I am stuck with a $300+ ugly and broken thing that I can only use as a paperweight for the huge mess I call my desk. Yay.
>Rage sidenote; Samsung, go take the money I payed for **** and shove it.
And I guess you don't have your old ROM (AOKP build 35) in your tab.
Try with adb (in recovery), but if you can't get a working USB connection (using other computers or OS), maybe there's something physically wrong with your tablet.
No, I don't. I'm stupid enough to delete the ROM zip after flashing it to save space on the tablet...
How do I do this ADB thing? I've heard of it before alot but never used it or looked into it...
Read this: for windows -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387527 , for Ubuntu -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921169
After everything is installed, boot your tablet into recovery and try running in your command line application (CMD for windows):
adb devices
If it shows that a device (and ID number and the actual state, e.g. recovery) is connected, your golden!
If you have another android device, try it too, to be sure that is working.
To transfer a file the command is
adb push /path/to/file /path/in/tablet
In windows I guess is something like this:
adb push C:\path\to\file /path/in/tablet
so I'd do something like
adb push C:\ADB\CWM-5.5.0.4-p4wifi.zip mnt/sdcard/ ?
Im dling the ADB files right now
adb push C:\ADB\CWM-5.5.0.4-p4wifi.zip /mnt/sdcard/
You need the slash at the star and end of the path of the tablet.
While installing PdaNet it failed, said it couldnt connect through to the device or w/e
Also,I don't recall having ADB on when I had the tablet. I might've but I don't think I kept debugging on for the general time...
This is so frustrating >.>
I'm not sure about that error in PdaNet, I can help you with adb but I don't use Windows, so there's things I can't test.
If you didn't select ADB debugging in your ROM it doesn't matter, you're doing this from recovery.
BTW, do you have other android device?
adb seems to be working and copying, but I can't find the file in Recovery while doing choose a zip to apply!
Yes, I have an LG Optimus V on Virgin Mobile running tdm's AMAZING Quattrimus Alpha 10 on Ice Cream Sandwich/ Android 4.0.4
this is what I get
C:\Users\Mikoyan Gurevich\Desktop\LG Drivers>adb devices
List of devices attached
43C800340009517 recovery
C:\Users\Mikoyan Gurevich\Desktop\LG Drivers>adb push C:\CWM-5.5.0.4-p4wifi.zip
43C800340009517\sdcard\download
1328 KB/s (4147569 bytes in 3.048s)
C:\Users\Mikoyan Gurevich\Desktop\LG Drivers>
If you connect your phone and execute
adb devices
What's the output?
If you do the same with your tablet, what's the output?
with the tablet it's
C:\Users\Mikoyan Gurevich\Desktop\LG Drivers>adb devices
List of devices attached
43C800340009517 recovery
with my phone it doesn't wanna show up in Recovery or not.... Hmm.
Well, it shows fine, then you should be able to transfer the files
First, in your recovery, go through the steps to install some zip file, but just go as far as selecting the directory, then go back
Now in your PC try running something like this, change your path in windows:
adb push C:\CWM-5.5.0.4-p4wifi.zip /sdcard/
The in your recovery, select install and should show there. The thing is that most likely the sdcard wasn't mounted in your tab
Edit, to mount your sdcard in recovery do: mounts and storage > mount /sdcard > Go back
The do the transfer in your PC.
Hmm
While I was holding it to my gut, pushing the end of the cable into my stomach (It was the only way to get it to be recognized) I fooled around and went into download mode, hoping that on the contrary I could do that, turn it off, and when I went back into Recovery it would be there when it finally said the cable WAS connected and then I rushed to open Odin and wrote it through, and it frickin' wrote CWM v5 right on and it worked, I'll be damned!
Maple, I can not thank you enough for helping me with this, I am in great debt.
You're welcome, I'm glad it worked. Knowing how to use adb is really useful. And now you know that something is wrong with your cable.
Or in the connector pins or w/e of the tablet... The cable works fine for charging though....
You are my savior, bro.
My Samsung galaxy s2's screen reciently got smashed, nothing comes up but I believe the rest of the system works. Now when I connect to my computer it just charges. So I was wondering if there is any way to retrieve my contacts, internet favorites, pictures, and memos without replacing the screen.
Thanks
i cant do too much research at the moment, but I have an idea.
Assuming that you have clockwork recovery installed:
I think there is a way to mount the file system using clockwork recovery.
*You should try looking up the key combo to get into the recovery screen in boot
*Then look for specific instuctions on how to mount the file system.
*Since clockwork recovery is entirley controlled with harware keys you should be able to navigate without seeing what you are doing
*(just look at the instructions and press the appropriate keys, the appropriate amount of times to get to where you need to be)
Its a shot in the dark (bu-dum-chi) but I think it might be your best bet.
This should point you in the right direction:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ClockworkMod_Recovery
If not, there may be a way to remove the internal storage and put it into a simmilar device and get the data that way. But I cant really help with that.
assuming it does turn on, turn it on and plug it to your pc, then use adb (android debug bridge) which comes with the android sdk to pull files out of your phone.
as for the contacts you can pull the sqlite db file:
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-rescue-squad/30987-acquire-contacts-via-adb.html
you can also parse them directly on phone with the sqlite3 command while in adb shell.
Is there any feedback on this.
dziridz said:
Is there any feedback on this.
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I've just used Samsung Kies and was able to retrieve data, now I am looking for a way to format the internal memory.
Hi! So I'm wondering if anyone know if there is\have been any development for
the Tizzbird Stick N1 (M\G) ?
We have this Android-stick in stock at my store, but I'm not sure if I'm going to get it or not yet. Depends the development, as I'd really like to see the capabilities for it. I believe it's a lowbrand tho. so I might be out of luck.
Anyone know anything?
I searched the forums, and did a google search. Didnt find much.
regards,
Dag M.
Hi there!
I own one of those, and there are a handful of (german-speaking) people activly posting in this forum http://forum.tizzbird-tv.de/ about the Tizzbird N1. - The problem with that forum is that they heavily censor it - as soon as anyone posts info on how to "get in", or if someone asks uncomfortable questions - those posts gets deleted.
They sell it really cheap for 30€ (not all the time, but twice for one day @ redcoon) and although the Wifi-Chip (or the drivers for it) are really crappy, the media player part is really nice.
update: I've did a little research, and here is a little list of relevant links about the tizzbird n1:
==== Marketing Product Pages ====
http://valueplus.co.kr/english/product/product_player_n1.html
http://www.tizzbird.com/eng/index.php?mm_code=719&sm_code=755
http://tizzbird-tv.de/tizzbird/tizzbird-n1.html
==== Official Firmware ====
http://www.tizzbird.com/eng/index.php?mm_code=726&sm_code=727&board_search_head_word=stick+n1
http://download.tizzbird-tv.de/TizzBird_N1G_update_GMS_V3_20_13072719.tzbird
==== German Support Forum (posting info about root-access prohibited) ====
http://forum.tizzbird-tv.de/viewforum.php?f=11
==== GPL-Code for Tizzbird N10, N20 & N30 - but not for N1? ====
http://www.tizzbird.com/eng/index.php?mm_code=752&sm_code=754
==== Kernel Sources ? ====
http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/03...k-n1-android-ics-hdmiusb-dongle-media-player/
http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07...hips-tcc8925-mini-pcs-cx-01-z900-tizzbird-n1/
https://github.com/cnxsoft/telechips-linux
Yeah, the pretend to be "community friendly and supportive" but once you actually start digging in, they get quite agressive and boot you out.
Anyways, I got a N1 a couple of days myself now (snagged it for 30 bucks at another RedCoon sale ) and I am surprised.
Got it pretty much only to tinker around with it and this thing suits more perfectly for that than I imagined.
Esp. that fact they used a simple SD card as "internal flash storage" - my guess is because a simple SD is cheaper than an actual eMMC flash chip, but it's so cool on so many levels for us.
I already found out how to replace the 4GB SD with a bigger one (have a 16GB in mine ATM).
I'll post some more details about it here later, got a few things I want to test and/or prepare first (thinking of some "easy to use cloning script"), but long story short:
You need to copy the bootloader to the very end (last few blocks) of the SD you want to use.
Once the BL is at the proper place it already boots from the new SD again, to be sure everything is as it's supposed to be one should apply an update via USB (I'm not 100% sure about a possible pointer to the BL that needs to be corrected, which the update does).
After that the partition information has to be edited to make the userdata partition larger and you're done.
thanks for the info HellcatDroid!
It would be great if you could elaborate on how to put the bootloader at the end of the sd-card.
Also I would love to get info how to get root into the stock firmware, that crippled down root-firmware that they allow to exist in the official tizzbird forum doesn't really satisfy my needs
I did it via a hex editor, but it should be doable with a few "dd" commands as well - that's one of the things I still want to try, find the propper dd params to copy the BL over.
If you dumped the original SD into a file using dd, at the very end of the image file you will find the bootloader and the very last block of the SD is a "header" telling the bootrom of the N1 a few things about it, so it can properly locate and load it.
So what you got to do is to copy those last ~230k from the image to the end of the new SD card.
As said, I'll try to write a small shell script that does it.
The rooting is even more easy (Stonecold would kill me if he'd read this, lol):
For when running on Linux (no can do on Windows, as Windows doesn't know the ext4 FS):
Since you got the SD in your PC anyways already, just mount partition 2 (e.g. if the SD is sdc on your PC, mount /dev/sdc2).
That is the partition where the Android system is sitting on.
Then just copy over the files needed for root to where they need to go, chown/chmod them properly, unmount and done
I used the "update-supersu.zip" I had for my Nexus7 to grab the required files.
But I'm planning to make a simple rooting script as well.
So if all goes as planned it'll come down to
- insert original SD
- run script 1
- insert new SD
- run script 2
- to root run script 3
brilliant! I would love to see those scripts
way easier than start tinkering with that stuff myself
One thing I wonder about - over at the official forum you said that a simple dd copy didn't work - is that if the target sd-card is bigger or also for an sd-card of equals size? because with equal size simple dd copy of the sd-card should still work, even if some things need so be exactly at the end.
Yup, just a dd didn't work because the new SD card was larger and the bootloader ended up being somewhere in the middle of the card instead of at the end.
While your thought of "dd to equal size cards" is totally correct, it might still fail due to the fact every card is not 100% exact same size counting down to last byte.
There ususally is a tiny size difference (a few bytes to kbytes) between cards, even if they are supposed to be same, so the bootloader might end up truncated or not exactely at the end.
If, however, the size of the cards is 100% the same, down to the last byte, then yes, a simple dd clone would work.
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... There ususally is a tiny size difference (a few bytes to kbytes) between cards, even if they are supposed to be same, so the bootloader might end up truncated or not exactely at the end. ...
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Oh! Didn't know that. I thought same marketing size means not the same size they write on the box, but at least the same size between those that are marketed with the same GB numbers on their stickers.
OK, here we go, I slapped together a few scripts for prepping a new (and larger) SD card to work in the N1 and while having the SD in the PC to aplly some root.
* hints at attachment of this post
The scripts might still have problems and not work on any Linux out there, but it's a start.
If there's more people interested and joining in on this I might continue but for now I got what I wanted - more storage and root.
Hi
I think I destroyed my MiniSC cand! The N1 is dead. I tried to insert the card in a linux and gparted did not see anything. What can I do?
thank you for your help
somade said:
Hi
I think I destroyed my MiniSC cand! The N1 is dead. I tried to insert the card in a linux and gparted did not see anything. What can I do?
thank you for your help
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Could you post how you got there? what did you do to the sd-card that destroyed it?
Hi.
If you got a dump from a working state of the SD you can just dd it back onto the card.
If you don't, it can still be recovered but might need bit more work.
Two options:
find someone who gives you a dump of their card and use the write-card script from my above post to write it to your SD.
Problem with this: a working dump contains copyrighted code, like the bootloader, it technically it's "not OK" to share it
we come up with another script that only contains an "empty" image (i.e. only partitioning information) and that takes the bootloader and recovery from the official update and gets the card into a state that it boots into recovery and lets you install a working system using the official update from USB (option in the recovery menu)
Option 2 would be nicer, IMO.
I'll try to make up said script
Thank you for your immediate answer!.
Actually I dont know what has happened, maybe the sharp instrument I used to remove the plastic cover scratch it...But now when I put it in a card reader the led of the reader switch off and the card is heated!!!. And also when I put it in the N1 the blue led turns off!.
So I bought a new empty micro Sd .
Waiting for your script to partition the new card and then boot in recovery mode and install a firmware....
Because I am not expert to linux please give me a lot of details how to do this.
Thanks again!
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we come up with another script that only contains an "empty" image (i.e. only partitioning information) and that takes the bootloader and recovery from the official update and gets the card into a state that it boots into recovery and lets you install a working system using the official update from USB (option in the recovery menu
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Do you think the bootloader is even part of the offical updates? wouldn't it be "best practice" to leave the bootloader partition alone as long as possible (and normally firmware updates don't need to change the bootloader)
update: something else I've just found, those might be kernel sources for our Tizzbird N1:
http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07...hips-tcc8925-mini-pcs-cx-01-z900-tizzbird-n1/
-->
https://github.com/cnxsoft/telechips-linux
Yep, the bootloader is in the update - at least in the 3.20 one.
And yes, usually the bootloader shouldn't be touched because that's usually the one thing that can "perma-brick" Android devices.
However, sometimes the manufacturer updates it (fixing bugs, adding functionality) - on my Nexus7 they updated the bootloader on pretty much every update and also Samsung updates their bootloaders every now and then (and every single update flashes the current one).
Last, not least, on the N1 the bootloader isn't on a partition but at unpartitioned space at the very last blocks of the SD (=> reason for a simple dd to a larger card not booting).
Ohyay at the possible kernel sources!
It'd be so cool if that's really sources able to build a kernel for the N1 with - I think we might be able to even get custom recovery (CWM and the likes) on the N1 if those sources work
OK, while trying to recreate a working SD card w/o using a dump of a working one I found out a few more things - some of them still need figuring out if we wanna do it properly.
There seem to be TWO bootloaders!
A stage1 bootloader of ~1kB size located at the third and second last block of the SD. If it's missing the N1 can't boot and it looks like ARM code (haven't tried to disassamble it yet), I assume the bootrom loads and executes that piece of code which in turn parses the header (see below) and load/starts the stage2 bootloader (the one also found in the FW update).
The very last block of the SD is a "header block" with some information beeing parsed either by the bootrom or (more likely) the stage1 bootloader.
The headerblock contains (among numerous other unkown data) the size of the ("stage2") bootloader (the one that then actually loads and boots the Linux kernel of the Android OS, this is also the one contained in the FW update) and the usable size of the SD card! (everything works fine though if the SD size is wrong and a proper FW update updates the header during writing of the bootloader and also sets the correct size).
Also, the headerblock has a checksum of which I have no clue on how it is generated.
All that is just educated guesses and might be totally off, but for now it looks like it's not too far off.
So, for now we can assume the following boot sequence:
Boot-ROM
-> loads stage1 bootloader from fixed position "SDsize - 3 blocks" (1 block = 512bytes)
stage1 bootloader at fixed position on SD
-> checks checksum of headerblock (?), gets size of stage2 bootloader from headerblock, locates stage2 bootloader based on it's size and loads/executes it
stage2 bootloader on variable position on SD
-> base initialisation of hardware
-> checks for recovery trigger (the red button on the remote control) and boots kernel from partition 6 if trigger present
-> boots kernel from partition 1 if recovery was not triggered
-> enters fastboot mode when booting the kernel fails
Kernel
-> loads base drivers and boots up the system
you're brilliant Hellcat!
And did you also find both bootloader stages inside the firmware updates?
Another question that came to my mind while reading your post (fastboot..)
Is there a way to use the Tizzbird as USB-slave? So to make use of adb and fastboot and such stuff? Okey adb could also be used via network I guess..
somade said:
Hi
I think I destroyed my MiniSC cand! The N1 is dead. I tried to insert the card in a linux and gparted did not see anything. What can I do?
thank you for your help
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Somade, do you have a linux running on your pc? If no, download and get a knoppix running. and then contact me via pm. I have the original n1 image so no problem to recover the n1.
sebastian.heyn said:
Somade, do you have a linux running on your pc? If no, download and get a knoppix running. and then contact me via pm. I have the original n1 image so no problem to recover the n1.
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Welcome to our rouge and non-censored Tizzbird N1 forum Sebastian!
I wonder if you found us here, if the German Tizzbird support also already knows about us
update: I just remembered, I've sent you the link as PM over in the official forums, thats how you landed here.
Sharing your sd-card image might be a copyright violation, and if you're profile name is strongly linked to you're real identity you should definitly be cautious with such things on public forums...
kaefert said:
And did you also find both bootloader stages inside the firmware updates?
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Nope, unfortunately the stage1 bootloader is not in the update :-/
kaefert said:
Is there a way to use the Tizzbird as USB-slave? So to make use of adb and fastboot and such stuff? Okey adb could also be used via network I guess..
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Yeah, it works, even officially XD
Go to the TizzBird settings -> "System Settings" -> "Advanced Settings"
It has an option "OTG Mode" there, set it to "Debug".
If you have your N1 connected to your PC via the micro-USB port (and hence your PC powering the N1!) you can use ADB and fastboot just as usual
I have not yet tried if that option is persistant, i.e. it survives a power loss.
When booting the kernel fails it should fall back to fastboot mode, so flashing a new kernel w/o pulling the SD should be possible - need to test this a bit more, though.
What works is, if you're rooted and and you fire the command "reboot bootloader" from a root shell, that gets you into fastboot mode no matter what (given you applied above mentioned setting first).
But needing a running system to get into fastboot mode kinda defeats the purpose of it - this aint Ouya which is a total fail when it comes to fastboot XD
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kaefert said:
I wonder if you found us here, if the German Tizzbird support also already knows about us
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Eventually they will, I'd say.
And I'd love to see their faces when they do XD
Bought a quad core Onda clone tablet (AOC Leopard hardware designation) from China - yes i know, i know, it was a bad idea but the spec was so good i thought it might get me into the tablet fun everyone seems to be having - i repair em but dont really have a lot of knowledge on the software side of things for hacking these things - although after the last two weeks of hacking the thing I am becoming a bit of an expert.
Here is a link to the same one albeit with a different manufacturer made up name - as you can see the spec (Quad core, 1Gb ram, 16Gb storage and hdmi) is amazing for the price of £42 I won it for at the auction so it was more of a plaything to learn on than a big purchase for me.
I am pretty good with Linux so be as technical as you need to be.
Basically the thing buggered up when my mate plugged in the wrong power supply and thankfully it still booted albeit with the OS or bootloader I suspect corrupted.
It is stuck on the Onda loading screen leading to my assumption that it is in a boot loop.
I have spent the last two weeks trying to find drivers for windows , a compatible os and a way to get it restored - ahh the perils of buying chinese!!!
Problem I have now is that the sdcard slot is completely snafu due to my careless and fat fingered fiddling and to be honest a slight bit of temper with the thing after two weeks of head scratching - do you blame me!!!
I have managed to get it recognised by windows by trying driver after driver on the internet until i found one that worked - the perils of buying a no name chinese clone are myriad.
Without the sdcard slot the problem is now worse as i have to use the usb slot connected to the pc and sideload the apps and os but thankfully that is sorted now - Have installed the Android development Bridge - SDK toolkit and adb devices linux command was coming up with no devices but i figured it out with a lot of fiddling with the android ini file in the user profile and the dev id in system device drivers in case anyone else is trying to figure that one out - its a very obscure fix but it works.
So all is swoopy and seemed to be going well until i got the same error i was getting with the sdcard when i tried to sideload a new os - sideloads the new "update.zip" perfectly and even passes the file verification but crashes out with the fatal "unexpected error" have tried Onda official zips and Cyanogenmod flashes but i reckon the problem is because the system is not rooted and doesnt have the cyanogen bootloader installed even though i rooted it with supersu before it went up the khyber so in essence I need root to get the new os on and yes "shell su" command doesnt work as the device is only in sideload mode - only option on the 3e emergency recovery mode on the tablet is either reload from usb , sideload from usb as well as the usual clear cache, reset system and clear user data.
I should add that the hardware isnt snafu as I can see my old files and the operating system on the flash drive when i use recovery mode (power button / up volume combo) - load from sdcard option when i choose browse to sdcard - Linux always mounts the onboard flash as sdcard and an external sdcard as ext-sdcard on a tablet or smartphone - so i can select sdcard and then browse the main flash storage where i can see all my movies , development programs apk's and the Linux system itself but obviously cannot do anything else other than browse the thing for a ZIP to upload onto the \temp which is then extracted by the Emegency recovery environment - checked for verification - it then seems to prepare to install but fails with as you say the usual "unknown error" which i only assume is because I dont have root i cant go any further.
Oneclick root doesnt work.
Also tried the pad product tool v1.05 for direct flash to the tablet using Ainol Novo 10 Captain firmware and it wont even work.
Flashboot adb doesnt work.
Rockchip android tool doesnt work.
Kinda running out of ideas now!!!
Ok ok so what i need to know is basically - Does anyone know if it is possible to root and install a new bootloader from the usb sideloader - ie Adb sideload "filename".
And yes i have tried the pinhole reset button on the back of the tablet and the wipe system and reload option in the recovery menu so hopefully there are some good techies on here who know how to su the bootloader and reload the os or if it is even possible!!!
In case anyone has run into the same issue in Nougat, I have a solution FYI. I'm using an LG G5 and transferring SD card data to/from a Windows 7 machine, but my workaround should work for any Nougat phone and any version of windows.
Anyway, my issue was that Windows explorer was not showing an updated/synced list of files and folders present on my SD card. Windows sync with the phone's internal memory seemed fine. To solve it, I killed "Media Storage" through Settings - > General - > Apps-> Show System - > Media Storage - > Force Stop, and then REBOOT THE PHONE.
Seems the fix is only for an existing SD card file structure though. When I added a new folder with the phone still plugged in, I needed to kill media storage and reboot my phone again. A pain but at least it gets the job done.
Hope someone out there finds this info useful. Cheers!
Yes, for MTP it usually creates a non-synced state between PC and phone storage.
I really suffered a lot from this issue before.
If you want to access your phone's storage with better performance, you might want to switch other means like
1. adb pull/push(Droid Explorer is a great implementation on windows),
2. FTP server(ES explorer provides that feature), or
3. the traditional mass storage(tweaking init.rc script or usb definition files, I can't remember clearly, sorry).
@ReVanTis, thanks very much for your reply. Before I go any further, I should mention that my phone is not rooted. So the portions of what you mentioned where root is required are unfortunately not an option for me. I have combed the forums, and it seems that Canadian carriers (and in particular, my carrier Rogers) lock their phones such that rooting is not possible.
(So maybe off topic a bit, but if you have any info on how to root an LG G5 (Model H831) running Nougat 7.0, please pass along)
Just a few days ago, I did try to install the adb shell on my Win7 PC, but couldn't figure out how to get it working. I'm not a command line kinda guy, and it took some fiddling just to get the shell GUI to pop up. And even then, I could't do what I wanted to. In my case, I wanted to use adb to force adoptable storage onto my G5. Don't know why LG didn't implement that but whatever, slightly off topic again. And back on topic, no adb shell and no root means no Droid Explorer.
FTP: Seems like a better option. I stopped using ES File Explorer a few months ago because it became too invasive and distracting, am extremely happy with the ad-free and networking ready paid version ($1.29 or something ridiculously cheap) of FX File Explorer. I haven't used FTP in decades, I'll give it ago tomorrow and see if I remember how
Tweaking init.script or usb definition files... I'd say too labour intensive and not necessary if a simple FTP connection can work. On the PC end, is cuteFTP still around from like 20 years ago? lol
Cheers!
Anyone have issue where files from sd card are blank when bringing files over to windows? Will show main folder, but empty inside. But if I do internal files to pc, all is good. Probably windows because I've had this issue with other phones.
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@ReVanTis, thanks very much for your reply. Before I go any further, I should mention that my phone is not rooted. So the portions of what you mentioned where root is required are unfortunately not an option for me. I have combed the forums, and it seems that Canadian carriers (and in particular, my carrier Rogers) lock their phones such that rooting is not possible.
(So maybe off topic a bit, but if you have any info on how to root an LG G5 (Model H831) running Nougat 7.0, please pass along)
Just a few days ago, I did try to install the adb shell on my Win7 PC, but couldn't figure out how to get it working. I'm not a command line kinda guy, and it took some fiddling just to get the shell GUI to pop up. And even then, I could't do what I wanted to. In my case, I wanted to use adb to force adoptable storage onto my G5. Don't know why LG didn't implement that but whatever, slightly off topic again. And back on topic, no adb shell and no root means no Droid Explorer.
FTP: Seems like a better option. I stopped using ES File Explorer a few months ago because it became too invasive and distracting, am extremely happy with the ad-free and networking ready paid version ($1.29 or something ridiculously cheap) of FX File Explorer. I haven't used FTP in decades, I'll give it ago tomorrow and see if I remember how
Tweaking init.script or usb definition files... I'd say too labour intensive and not necessary if a simple FTP connection can work. On the PC end, is cuteFTP still around from like 20 years ago? lol
Cheers!
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For 1. and 2. you don't actually need root access.
For 1, you can download platform-tools (https://developer.android.com/studio/releases/platform-tools.html)
and install droid explorer(https://de.codeplex.com/).
It's basically a file explorer implemented by issuing adb commands.
I believe you don't need root access to use droid explorer unless you want to access where it is only allowed for root.
SD card and internal storage should be fine without root.
You only need to enable adb from phone settings then install the correct adb driver on you windows PC.
For 2, besides ES explorer I believe there are bunch of other apps can do this.
It should be easy to find a replacement.
And 3 is actually way far from being practically useful, I wrote it just to point out it should be possible to do so.
Cool! I'll give adb and Droid Explorer another go when I have some more time (work, kids etc. interfering with my tinkering time! lol) . I thought DE was only for rooted devices but as you say, may work if the space I need to work in is accessible without root.
And absolutely, there are tons of file explorer apps out there, I mentioned one in particular as it is far and away a personal favorite for my needs.
Thanks again and have a good night... and do please let me know if you figure out how to root the H831. You know, in your spare time while being really bored Cheers!