I love my Mega. It is by far the best phone Ive ever had. But, the problems I have with the power usage and management on the device are a total nightmare.
1) The discharging nightmare:
The battery lasts NOTHING. Basically I get about 5 hours of use.. maximum.. no matter what I do.. and I have slimmed down to the ROM to having that NOTHING active.. I literally am left with active 6 services and I monitor CPU usage that is always near zero with NO apps hogging resources. From what I monitor on the device's battery usage, it's clearly always about 90% from the display! And yes, I dim the screen as much as I can of course, but usually not below 1/2way.. I hate screens too dim. However even just on standby with the screen off I still lose about 5% to 8% of battery an hour. Worse, even with the device Powered OFF, I still lose about 20% of battery a day. The ONLY way I have found out to control battery drain completely, is to take the battery out. That's it. Anyone else with similar symptoms and a fix or, is just that the stock battery totally sucks??? Also, any other off brand batteries are any better?.. (not the fat ones rated at much higher amps but that have an extra bulge.. that I don’t want)..
2) The charging nightmare:
This to me is the worse problem. It is bad enough how quickly this device issues battery, bit not nearly as bad as trying to charge efficiently again. I now have tried 3 different chargers/brands (and cables) to try fix the charging problem that is, it takes HOURS and HOURS to charge the battery. I am talking 5 to 6 hours to get it charged and if the screen is on and Im using the device it actually charges NOTHING at all and still keeps discharging (albeit much slower of course)... the fact is that the charging process is so pathetically slow that is less than real-time which means, with the device connected to power supply, the battery STILL drains if I try use it. This is absurd. However, mysteriously enough I have found ONE way that charges the phone super fast.. using a SONY External Power Pack (model CP-F1L) rated at 2200mAh. This is seems crazy because the power output of an external power pack should be much lower than the stock (and other Samsung) USB chargers.. but, it's what works.. the ONLY thing that works. And I have noticed that when connected to a USB Power charger, the Mega's Red LED light turn on faded.. however, when connected to the SONY External Power Pack, is bright red. Clearly more juice going in.. or something like that. Again, anyone else with similar symptoms and a fix the charging time, or, any good recommendation on a extra strong USB power adapter/charger that will make this thing at least charge faster?
Thanks in advance for the input and advice:silly:
Sounds like something is not letting your phone sleep or the battery is defective. Try putting CPU spy on it and let it set for a while. Then check to see if it is getting into deep sleep or if it is even stuck at a certain frequency.
There is an app on the playstore called Galaxy charging. Try it to see what rate it is charging. Though with the rate your phone discharges, the charger may only being supplying an amount just over the drain rate which is why it takes so long to charge.
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Yes this is not normal, I get five hours screen time on fifteen hours usage.
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Yep, something wrong there. I'm stock and this thing won't quit :good:
I would flash the stock rom back into your phone and see how the battery works then as this not normal as mentioned by other members as I am still on the stock rom but rooted only and I have great battery life.
That is were to start by flashing the stock rom and if no change then battery or maybe a hardware problem.
Did you have good battery life before you starting flashing with the phone or did this occur after the stock rom was removed and custom rom with stuff removed to gain performance?
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Sometime i got 96% bug
Battry is fully charged = 100%
remove charger
Reboot device
Suddenly Battery become = 96%
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Sometime i got 96% bug
Battry is fully charged = 100%
remove charger
Reboot device
Suddenly Battery become = 96%
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You could try to remove the battery from the phone for about 5 secs and re-install and see it that helps as sometimes if you take the charger off as soon as it is done charging it might not show 100% at times when booting as I leave mine on for a bit longer and it seems to help..even though charge light is green..I leave it longer on.
If your phone is rooted get a app called battery calibrator from the google store as it is free and install it and just before you shut down the phone to charge wipe the battery stats with this app and then shutdown phone and fully charge and then see how the battery works after the battery stats wipe as that can usually help.
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Sounds like something is not letting your phone sleep or the battery is defective. Try putting CPU spy on it and let it set for a while. Then check to see if it is getting into deep sleep or if it is even stuck at a certain frequency.
There is an app on the playstore called Galaxy charging. Try it to see what rate it is charging. Though with the rate your phone discharges, the charger may only being supplying an amount just over the drain rate which is why it takes so long to charge.
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Thanks for the tip. Installed the app you recommend, now I understand better. With the stock Samsung USB charger I get 420 readings. With the other 2 chargers I get 500 and 540. However, with the Sony External Power Pack I get 1900!..no wonder it charges super fast with it! My question now is what's up with all the USB chargers I have? I even tried my old Galaxy Tab 7 charger (strongest rated charger I have) and still only feeds 480. This is all so bizarre. So, where to get a super strong charger for the Mega?
(sorry.. by whatever reason my reply got posted 4 times.. so strange. I try delete the first three but cant)..
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Thanks for the tip. Installed the app you recommend, now I understand better. With the stock Samsung USB charger I get 420 readings. With the other 2 chargers I get 500 and 540. However, with the Sony External Power Pack I get 1900!..no wonder it charges super fast with it! My question now is what's up with all the USB chargers I have? I even tried my old Galaxy Tab 7 charger (strongest rated charger I have) and still only feeds 480. This is all so bizarre. So, where to get a super strong charger for the Mega?
(sorry.. by whatever reason my reply got posted 4 times.. so strange. I try delete the first three but cant)..
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Usually when this happens there is something wrong with the USB cable not necessarily the charger. Is the sony cable a USB type cable or a hard wired one? If it is USB type try using it with the other chargers and see what your results are.
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Usually when this happens there is something wrong with the USB cable not necessarily the charger. Is the sony cable a USB type cable or a hard wired one? If it is USB type try using it with the other chargers and see what your results are.
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Yes indeed I notice the Sony Power Pack cable is short and thick. The Samsung cable is long and thin. I get much higher charging power using the thick short cable. Maybe I need go shop for a proper longer/thicker cable.
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Yes indeed I notice the Sony Power Pack cable is short and thick. The Samsung cable is long and thin. I get much higher charging power using the thick short cable. Maybe I need go shop for a proper longer/thicker cable.
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I've certainly found the USB cable makes a big difference to the charging speed. I got a couple of 2m cables off Ebay and they're hopelessly slow, but the stock Samsung cable is fast. I just wish it was a bit longer!
I have the same issue
I have the Sprint Mega. Not refurbished and original factory state but I have horrific charge/discharge issues. Right now, my phone just got to 100% charge which I then unplugged the charge cable. Within 5 mins, I went from 100% to 96% and it is losing battery even quicker.
VeEuzUKY: It's been a while but do you still have this phone? Any updates? I should prob invest in a thicker USB cable like you've describe. It has the most charge rate.
I got my mega 6.3 last week. Since then it has said 100% charged... even when charging or dead. So I got a new battery thinking it was the battery but its obviously not and im not sure what it is that could be the problem. Im not sure if its crucial for my phone, if it can be fixed easily and cheaply, or if I need to return my phone to the place I bought it from.
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has anyone else noticed how quickly this phone charges? I just wanted to give some props to HTC.. I forgot to plug in the phone last night, and when I woke up this morning it was 0% dead. I plugged it in, and got ready for work, an hour later when I had to leave for work, it was at 96%!!
hell ya
Nice, haven't really paid much attention actually.
All I can say is that the ReZound is everything the my Thunderbolt should've been, including the battery charge and life.
Hmm.. I mainly just charge in my car & it seems like it takes forever(close to 3 hours). I spend most of my time driving otherwise i'd plug it into the wall and see. I guess it also doesn't help that the phone is also always being used while charging to.
However, battery life wise, it lasts 2 - 3 of constant use before it dies.
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Hmm.. I mainly just charge in my car & it seems like it takes forever(close to 3 hours). I spend most of my time driving otherwise i'd plug it into the wall and see. I guess it also doesn't help that the phone is also always being used while charging to.
However, battery life wise, it lasts 2 - 3 of constant use before it dies.
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It will take longer to charge from a USB port and a car charger....won't take nearly as long when plugged into the wall. Just an fyi
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yeah, the motorola car charger or the htc one seem to be the best bet..you have to look at amps.
most ****ty car chargers are like 500ma, which will take like 3-4 hours to charge..you have to get the ones that match the AC charger, so around 1amp (1000ma) and you're set. the motorola is the closest i've seen, at like 950ma or so. charges it pretty well.
i have the motorola p513 rapid car charger & that's the one that seems to take forever. i've also got a 400watt power inverter & have tried just using the cable & wall plug that came with the phone and it doesn't seem to make much difference either. i've tried it in both the limo and my van... i know it's not a problem battery-wise with the van as there's 6 car batteries in it.
shazbot!...
I have the extended battery for mine, it seems to go from 10% to 100% in about four hours. I think for most phones it'd about three hours or so for a stock battery. So it looks like it does charge faster for me as well.
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I ran my phone till it died today. I have had it on the charger for 1 1/2 hours, still barely 50%, I think you were on crack man. I was charging the phone with it off for the first hour too.
AtLemacks said:
I ran my phone till it died today. I have had it on the charger for 1 1/2 hours, still barely 50%, I think you were on crack man. I was charging the phone with it off for the first hour too.
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i used to have this problem until i found there was a difference between charging cables and chargers. I dont mean the amperage size, i mean, some chargers/cables put your phone into USB charging mode, which is much much slower than AC charging.
THere is an app on the market called 'current widget' that can tell your charge rate. I used it on an older phone that was compatible with the widget (rooted rommed and cust kernel) and found that the charger I was using wasnt "AC" charging my phone, even though it was an AC charger. I went through a couple of cable charger combinations until i found the ones that worked right.
I have a USB car charger too (the kind you just plug a USB cable into). Using the widget i found that the USB cable I was using in my car was not 'AC' Charging the phone, and as a result, if i used navigation or anything like that, the phone would deplete power faster than it was getting it. I changed cables and problem was solved.
You can download the widget and use it on the rezound, but it does not update correctly, nor does it seem to be as accurate as it should.
For example, if I am not charging the phone, it should say "0 mA, but it does not. I have noticed though that when I am getting a good charge, the charging rate does show an increased rate, and because I am failure with the app, ive used it to confirm the charging rates.
You can try to download the app and run it. Plug in your phone, and look at the 'mA'. While its not charging it will be ~100 or so. during charging it should be up in the 500-600 range. but the app does not update as fast as it should, so you have to let it sit a bit before the number will change (normally it changes in realtime) but after charging for 5 min or so , if you still see numbers <200 you are not charging at the optimal rate. Try a new charger / cable.
I have 6 chargers, lol. All of them are 850mA chargers.
Here's a screenshot from this morning, I went to bed with at at 5%, and looks like it was full charged within 2 hours time. Not bad!
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i used to have this problem until i found there was a difference between charging cables and chargers. I dont mean the amperage size, i mean, some chargers/cables put your phone into USB charging mode, which is much much slower than AC charging.
THere is an app on the market called 'current widget' that can tell your charge rate. I used it on an older phone that was compatible with the widget (rooted rommed and cust kernel) and found that the charger I was using wasnt "AC" charging my phone, even though it was an AC charger. I went through a couple of cable charger combinations until i found the ones that worked right.
I have a USB car charger too (the kind you just plug a USB cable into). Using the widget i found that the USB cable I was using in my car was not 'AC' Charging the phone, and as a result, if i used navigation or anything like that, the phone would deplete power faster than it was getting it. I changed cables and problem was solved.
You can download the widget and use it on the rezound, but it does not update correctly, nor does it seem to be as accurate as it should.
For example, if I am not charging the phone, it should say "0 mA, but it does not. I have noticed though that when I am getting a good charge, the charging rate does show an increased rate, and because I am failure with the app, ive used it to confirm the charging rates.
You can try to download the app and run it. Plug in your phone, and look at the 'mA'. While its not charging it will be ~100 or so. during charging it should be up in the 500-600 range. but the app does not update as fast as it should, so you have to let it sit a bit before the number will change (normally it changes in realtime) but after charging for 5 min or so , if you still see numbers <200 you are not charging at the optimal rate. Try a new charger / cable.
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You know current widget shows how much your phone is using right? It never says 0mA when your phone is charging because your phone is using current when it is in use. It never goes to zero at any time actually unless your phone is dead.
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joshnichols189 said:
You know current widget shows how much your phone is using right? It never says 0mA when your phone is charging because your phone is using current when it is in use. It never goes to zero at any time actually unless your phone is dead.
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that is not the way it worked with the droid charge with a custom kernel. It showed your charging current. or more accurately, the amount of current that was going to the battery for charging. When the charger was unplugged, it showed 0mA.
Maybe we are talking about different apps
that is really fast. I wonder if that is why some of them are overheating and going into bootloops...
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that is really fast. I wonder if that is why some of them are overheating and going into bootloops...
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Good point... They may not be regulating the rate they are charging properly.
Wait aren't our wall chargers one amp? Why's it showing around 600 ma?
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jayochs said:
Wait aren't our wall chargers one amp? Why's it showing around 600 ma?
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even with a 2amp wall charger I bought on amazon, my phones never get above about 600mah charge.
joshnichols189 said:
You know current widget shows how much your phone is using right? It never says 0mA when your phone is charging because your phone is using current when it is in use. It never goes to zero at any time actually unless your phone is dead.
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Hehe... That "Current Widget"... When I use my Belkin USB car charger dongle, it fluctuates between 100 - 300mA... When I use my Power Inverter, it's 400 - 900(depending if the engine I'd running or not.
The bizarre thing though, is when it's not even plugged in/charging, the widget still shows mA fluctuations and makes me wonder if the thing is even working or not.
Alright peeps, I just got this Belkin 2.1amp (2100mA) usb car dongle "rapid charger" from Walmart. The packaging says it's for tablets so I'll see how it holds up against the mighty Rezound.
I've had my new HTC Amaze 4G for 4 days now and absolutely love it, what a great phone! The battery life is great (I'm careful with all my settings) and I'm only finding issues with the charging TIME.
It's the second time I've charged it and after noticing how excessively long it took the first time, I clocked it this time and it took 4 hours and 45 minutes. I used a charger that I've used on many other devices with no issues (5 volts 1 amp).
The battery level increases 1% every 3 minutes, which adds up to 5 hours. I calculated this both with the screen on and by averaging out over a longer period of time with the screen off. I also tried with the phone completely off and the results were the same.
I made sure there were no processes hogging up processor time or excessive RAM usage.
When I go into to "Settings -> About Phone -> Battery" Battery status clearly states: Charging (AC).
I have also read somewhere that this can possibly be set this way by design (possibly to prevent the battery from heating or overcharging and saving its life in the long run).
I also realize that the phone is new, and the battery needs a few charges to be settled, but 5 hours to charge on the second charge just seems like too much.
On the HTC product support website, on the faq there is the following question/answer:
How long should it take to charge my battery?
"Your battery can take up to 4 hours to fully charge using the AC charger. It will take much longer using the USB as that is the trickle charge function."
Can anyone out there with an HTC Amaze 4G confirm how long their phone takes to fully charge from the AC charger?
I'm thinking/hoping this is a defective device/battery/setting...I don't like having to wait 5 hours to have my phone fully charged.
Thanks in advance,
Filipe
Ok, I'd like to add one more thing. I finished charging the phone last night (about midnight), by the time I went to bed (around 2 am), after barely having used it, it was still at 100%, now at 9:30 am (7.5 hours later) the battery level is at 95%. I had everything off and very little background services and apps running. Even the network type, is only set to the basic, no data connection was live/standby.When I check the battery status/histogram this is what I get:
-44% went to Cell Standby
-42% to Phone Idle
-8% Display
-6% Wifi (I think I used it before I went to bed, but turned it off right then, and it remained at 100% battery)
I'm not too happy...this can't be right...it shouldn't take 5 hours to charge and discharge this fast? Can anyone shed some light please?
Thanks
Come on....anyone? Please? This is driving me nuts!!
Yeah that sounds about right. Don't complain man. Your battery life is pretty good compared to other devices. My device takes 3 hours to fully charge and can last 24 hours with minor use. Just charge it when you go to bed and you won't notice the time it takes
My desire hd takes almost as much (Around 3 hours) and my Optimus 3d prolly takes even more (5?) to fully charge from a full discharge...
(With Stock HTC/LG Charger. The HTC's AC Adapter is 5V/1A [Shouldn't that charge a battery in under 1 1/2 hrs?]. Not too sure about the LG)
They take Much longer to charge on Computer/Laptop USB Ports. The Optimus 3d actually loses battery while charging (With screen on) with a USB port.
Also, 5% a night is pretty good. My desire hd goes down 3-5% per night (2g, no data enabled.) or 0-1% with Airplane Mode. (Rooted, Revolution 6.31)
And my optimus 3d pretty much runs out of battery in <100 mins with full brightness while Playing Games - It goes down more than 1% per minute depending on the game being played, especially if 3d Converter is used. This is pretty much the same for all GB/Froyo ROMs.
Just charge it when you go to bed and you won't notice the time it takes
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I Agree. Both phones usually last around a day at least for me. You could always try a battery monitor such as GB Battery Stats or watchdog (The CPU One). CPU Intensive applications and Awake time during sleep are usually what cause bad battery life. Faster chargers such as 2A ones should also charge the battery faster, but they might reduce the overall battery life.
I would suggest buying a wall charger and cheap batteries from ebay. They last almost as long as stock batteries and cost only ~$2-4 each. [They apparently explode though. Never happened to me.]
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Both phones seem to charge from 0-90% much faster than 91-100% as well. I'm not sure why, since 100-90 wastes just as fast as 90-0. (Charging from 90%-100% battery practically takes a third of the full charging time)
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Thanks for your feedback guys!
I just finished charging it this morning, and it's FASTER NOW!
Took exactly 2 hours and 37 minutes (Battery Moniter is a great app!).
I think it actually may be due to the phone having some sort of smart charging system which "looks after" the battery. Since the phone is new, it might be wanting to start it off with some slowww charges and gradually speed them up.
But I still have to narrow it down some more since this time I'm actually using the supplied cable and charger (the ones I tried before were also 5V/1A).
The cable I was using (had it for a while now) had a pinch or two, it didn't look that bad, but I'm thinking it could also be the cable (could be shorting)!
I'm gonna do some testing on this cable now and report back my findings!
Thanks again!
RESOLVED!!!
Ok, so it actually turned out to be the cable. I really feel like a dumb ass...lol. Oh well, at least I figured it out!
So yeah, one good way to see if your cable / charger is good is to use Battery Monitor, and on the main screen where it says your device is charging (AC) and etc..it will also say the actual amperage (in mA) being fed to the battery...that number should be within the 500 to 750 range, if its lower, there is likely something wrong. (Mine was at 16...lol).
Thank you all for your help!!
Cheers!
can you explain to me more !!! i just had the phone and the battary run out like 5 hrs after ,,, what s about your cable-charger problem i didn t get your point !!! can you help me plz
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can you explain to me more !!! i just had the phone and the battary run out like 5 hrs after ,,, what s about your cable-charger problem i didn t get your point !!! can you help me plz
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My problem was the cable, and it was causing the phone to take five hours to CHARGE, not discharge.
These phones don't hold charge for too long, and the more activity you got going on, the more power it will consume. The screen hogs up the most power, so using the device constantly (especially with high intensity background light) will drain the battery very quick. First smart move would be to set the screen intensity to the lowest setting. Wi-fi and bluetooth, if you're not using them, shut them off. Open your task manager (or get a decent one from the market) and kill all the apps you got running in the background.
Games also require a lot of graphics/processing power, so naturally they will drain a lot of battery too.
Edit: There are some special cases where it could also be related to your network or even simply coverage zones exposed to the device. If it's stuck in a zone where it has weak 4g and 3g signals, it will keep bouncing back and forth causing more drain than normal on the battery as well.
If you've taken all these things into account, then you may have a defective device, then you will want to setup an RMA...or just take it back wherever you bought it and ask to exchange.
Hope this helps,
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My skyrocket takes about 3.5 hours to charge from 10% to full charge. If I plugged it in the car charger and run google map with the radio on the background, it would slowly drain the battery even though it was plugged in. My iphone 4 did not do this. It charges very fast and does not drain the battery even when I had several apps running in the background. I think the skyrocket consumes more power whether it is plugged in or not.
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My skyrocket takes about 3.5 hours to charge from 10% to full charge. If I plugged it in the car charger and run google map with the radio on the background, it would slowly drain the battery even though it was plugged in. My iphone 4 did not do this. It charges very fast and does not drain the battery even when I had several apps running in the background. I think the skyrocket consumes more power whether it is plugged in or not.
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Hi, what you need is a charger with a higher amperage rating than 500mA (or 0.5A). Buy a charger that is rated for 5V/1Amp like this one and your problems should go away.
The phone is basically "burning" more energy than it is receiving from the USB charger, hence the discharge.
To know the amperage rating of your charger look on the label for numbers that look like "5V/500mA"...
Hope this helps,
Cheers
EDIT: The link I provided does include an iPhone cable, but I'm just referring to the charger itself, the cable would obviously have to be a micro-usb.
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thread moved to...mexico?
Most illegal threads are trying to move from Mexico.
But, you need a charging source more powerful then the base 500ma, (or whatever that term of measurement is) computers are only supposed to supply 500ma to a USB port so AC adapters are typically better for charging. But feel free to follow the post above and check the rating on the charger.
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i just got my amaze, and i have auto sync off and screen on dim and it still takes for everrrrrrr to charge.. ive used a few different chargers and cords but i just got the phone so maybe after a few charges it will speed up? not sure my mytouch 4g never took this long although it would get verrrry hot
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i just got my amaze, and i have auto sync off and screen on dim and it still takes for everrrrrrr to charge.. ive used a few different chargers and cords but i just got the phone so maybe after a few charges it will speed up? not sure my mytouch 4g never took this long although it would get verrrry hot
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Well the amaze does have a hefty battery, mine is charging a bit faster than when I first had it
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rich2thad said:
i just got my amaze, and i have auto sync off and screen on dim and it still takes for everrrrrrr to charge.. ive used a few different chargers and cords but i just got the phone so maybe after a few charges it will speed up? not sure my mytouch 4g never took this long although it would get verrrry hot
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Make sure to use the original charger and cable that was supplied to you by T-Mobile/HTC
I noticed the 12-pin cable is faster than the 5-pin.
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Ok, I'd like to add one more thing. I finished charging the phone last night (about midnight), by the time I went to bed (around 2 am), after barely having used it, it was still at 100%, now at 9:30 am (7.5 hours later) the battery level is at 95%. I had everything off and very little background services and apps running. Even the network type, is only set to the basic, no data connection was live/standby.When I check the battery status/histogram this is what I get:
-44% went to Cell Standby
-42% to Phone Idle
-8% Display
-6% Wifi (I think I used it before I went to bed, but turned it off right then, and it remained at 100% battery)
I'm not too happy...this can't be right...it shouldn't take 5 hours to charge and discharge this fast? Can anyone shed some light please?
Thanks
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Sounds about right. If you want better battery life either root it or buy another battery.
To get really good battery life ?...you got the wrong phone man.
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I noticed that while I have my Note charging from the wall, the battery will drain if I have the screen on or browse the internet. LTE coverage stops about 5 miles from my house, so I was browsing the internet on HSPA during this time. I tried wifi for a bit and it still drained. It will only charge when the screen is off, when I turn it back on the battery starts draining. Does anyone else experience this?
EDIT: It also takes forever to charge. I'm not as concerned with that as much right now though.
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I noticed that while I have my Note charging from the wall, the battery will drain if I have the screen on or browse the internet. LTE coverage stops about 5 miles from my house, so I was browsing the internet on HSPA during this time. I tried wifi for a bit and it still drained. It will only charge when the screen is off, when I turn it back on the battery starts draining. Does anyone else experience this?
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Yes mine does this too, i dont really care since my phone lasts 16+ hours i usually just start charging it when i go to sleep.
but yes i have this problem.
I just got my phone yesterday so I don't know how long the battery will last for me, but having it drain while plugged in is really annoying. I plug in my phone overnight and will read news and browse the internet until I fall asleep, so I don't want it to discharge while I'm doing that.
I'm testing the ipad charger we have, as it offers 2.1A instead of 1. If the phone can make use of the extra current it may help. Otherwise the charging circuitry is just what it is.
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Same here. Which sucks for me since im a heavy web browser during the day and can only get 6 hours of battery.
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I'm testing the ipad charger we have, as it offers 2.1A instead of 1. If the phone can make use of the extra current it may help. Otherwise the charging circuitry is just what it is.
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Please let me know your results. I will buy a new charger if it prevents this.
This does not happen with mine. I just ran a test - started at 82% on the wall charger. Currently tethering via wifi, doing heavy surfing. Also opened Opera and kept refreshing a page every 20-30 seconds to keep the screen on and to simulate surfing via the device itself. So doing double surfing. After about 10 minutes I was up to 84%.
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This does not happen with mine. I just ran a test - started at 82% on the wall charger. Currently tethering via wifi, doing heavy surfing. Also opened Opera and kept refreshing a page every 20-30 seconds to keep the screen on and to simulate surfing via the device itself. So doing double surfing. After about 10 minutes I was up to 84%.
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That's good to know that at least one person doesn't have this issue. Hopefully more people reply so we can see how many people are or are not having this problem.
For some reason after my first charge my streak never chargers to completely 100 percent. Only 98 percent no matter how long I charge it for. Anyone know why?
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This doesn't happen to me. I just use the same charger with a different cable. Can watch netflix, browse web etc
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borijess said:
For some reason after my first charge my streak never chargers to completely 100 percent. Only 98 percent no matter how long I charge it for. Anyone know why?
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My note charges while using it as well. The ipad charger likely won't make a difference unless the circuitry in the Note is different than the Galaxy Nexus as I tried an ipad charger with that and the current was so high it shut off from overheating..
Also your phone has software in it to prevent overcharging. What it does is it will charge to 100%, then even if plugged in run off battery power down to say, 95% and when it hits that lower threshold it will charge back up to 100% and so on. This is probably what you are seeing.
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I noticed that while I have my Note charging from the wall, the battery will drain if I have the screen on or browse the internet. LTE coverage stops about 5 miles from my house, so I was browsing the internet on HSPA during this time. I tried wifi for a bit and it still drained. It will only charge when the screen is off, when I turn it back on the battery starts draining. Does anyone else experience this?
EDIT: It also takes forever to charge. I'm not as concerned with that as much right now though.
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I've noticed something similar to this and attribute it to the dual core processor and movie-theatre-sized screen.
Actually, my Note takes longer to charge on any charger other than the one that came with the phone, unless I have it charging off a usb plug directly into my computer (for some reason). However, I will say that unless I'm doing something super data/GPS intensive like Google Nav, the battery will not continue to discharge while plugged in, so it's possible you might have a crap battery.
I would power cycle the thing a few more times and then if no different, try and swap out the battery.
-Ryan
Chalk me up on the list for those that have draining batteries while being charged. I don't even have to be doing anything on the phone except making a phone call... and it will drain.
I have a little update to my problem. Instead of using the cable that came with the phone, I tried a 15ft cable from monoprice that I had laying around. Now the phone charges when in use, and chargers much quicker than it did with the Samsung cable. So I am happy now.
I am having the same issue. It takes more than 15 hours to fully charge, then only get about 6 hours of usage. It will also drain if plugged in and I am using it with the screen on. This should not be happening. I believe that the battery is defective. If there is no fix for this, I am going to exchange mine. I read about the outstanding battery life on this thing and I want it! I was tired of getting only 6 hours on my Dell Streak and paid full price for the Note hoping to get at least 10-12hrs. I can't even get the thing to fully charge.
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I am having the same issue. It takes more than 15 hours to fully charge, then only get about 6 hours of usage. It will also drain if plugged in and I am using it with the screen on. This should not be happening. I believe that the battery is defective. If there is no fix for this, I am going to exchange mine. I read about the outstanding battery life on this thing and I want it! I was tired of getting only 6 hours on my Dell Streak and paid full price for the Note hoping to get at least 10-12hrs. I can't even get the thing to fully charge.
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If you're using the stock charger and cable, something is wrong. Period. It takes maybe 5-6 hours to charge from nearly flat, probably less.
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I am having the same issue. It takes more than 15 hours to fully charge, then only get about 6 hours of usage. It will also drain if plugged in and I am using it with the screen on. This should not be happening. I believe that the battery is defective. If there is no fix for this, I am going to exchange mine. I read about the outstanding battery life on this thing and I want it! I was tired of getting only 6 hours on my Dell Streak and paid full price for the Note hoping to get at least 10-12hrs. I can't even get the thing to fully charge.
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Exchange! This is not normal!
I just charged it for 6 hours and got it to 44 pct. Something is effed up!
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I just charged it for 6 hours and got it to 44 pct. Something is effed up!
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Using the stock charger plugged into a wall outlet? Or charging from a USB cable plugged into a computer?
in my experience since I got my note a month ago, different usb cables seem to vary in charging speed, even using the same usb port on my computer or the wallwart. I know that prob makes no sense and i can't explain it, but I have a cable that has those rf chokes on each end, and it is thicker than most cables, seems to carry current better or something. I am charging from a usb3 port on my desktop, and have fast charge turned on so that may be affecting it.
I can use my phone, while charging and I gain 1% about every 5 minuets.
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Using the stock charger plugged into a wall outlet? Or charging from a USB cable plugged into a computer?
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unplugged my phone at 8 read xda forum for 5 mins got to work right now 943 already at 89 percent. Does this seem normal? I been checking better battery stats but don't really understand it. I feel like something is trying to sync. i have fetch off for email and Facebook. anyway to diagnose this on saurom rc4 clean boot.
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Are you overclocked? If you are, which governor are you using? I've posted in the OC kernel thread about an issue where the CPU is running at max frequency the entire time causing a huge battery drain.
I am right now but its showing me deep sleep and 192mhz on demond has a big percentage. Its not running max clocked i know that.
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This is my shots I'm at 78 percent now been on xda for maybe teen more mins. My brightness is one step above min level. Its like 1 percent every 3 mins when screen is on even if I'm idle.
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This is my shots I'm at 78 percent now been on xda for maybe teen more mins. My brightness is one step above min level. Its like 1 percent every 3 mins when screen is on even if I'm idle.
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I think I know what the problem is: Your phone is trying to kill itself and save humanity from that terrible font
seems like a bit much but it could be normal.
Once your phone's charge reaches 100% it stops charging to prevent damage to the Lithium-ion battery. I am not sure however when it starts charging again.
Mine charge % dips even when I am using plugged in! Horrible consumption with screen on.
installed only few apps.
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Mine charge % dips even when I am using plugged in! Horrible consumption with screen on.
installed only few apps.
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Are you using the Samsung OEM home charger? It shouldn't be dipping when using that one. Mine will charge AND increase while using it in the car with GPS running (huge battery drainer) and a driving DVR program (DailyRoads Voyager) and the screen on. All with a car charger and cheater plug that shorts Pin 2&3. That's the secret to getting rapid charge to work. The OEM home charger has those pins shorted internally. If you are trying to charge over USB on your computer then again you need that cheater plug and ensure the USB port can support more than 700 mA. If it's a USB 3.0 port then it should handle that current.
No problems for me on the stock or aftermarket chargers with the screen on.
I have the same problem with my brand new I717 GN. Battery level slowly drops when on charge, even if it's the OEM wall adapter. I've tried my Kindle USB cables as well with about the same results. I noticed the charge is a bit stronger from the wall source, but still can't keep up with even simple web browsing via WiFi. I've installed JuiceDefender as well, and it's helped reduce depletion a bit, but not really enough. This phone would never last me a full day of intermittent use without a power source.
I've read several of these threads and there doesn't really seem to be a solid solution to this other than some GN owners saying they have the problem and some don't...
Someone mentioned a crosswired 'Smart Adapter Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S' on Amazon (I'm too new and can't post the link)... I might try that but maybe I'll return for a new one if some people don't have this battery problem, unless it turns out to be a latest firmware problem..?
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I have the same problem with my brand new I717 GN. Battery level slowly drops when on charge, even if it's the OEM wall adapter. I've tried my Kindle USB cables as well with about the same results. I noticed the charge is a bit stronger from the wall source, but still can't keep up with even simple web browsing via WiFi. I've installed JuiceDefender as well, and it's helped reduce depletion a bit, but not really enough. This phone would never last me a full day of intermittent use without a power source.
I've read several of these threads and there doesn't really seem to be a solid solution to this other than some GN owners saying they have the problem and some don't...
Someone mentioned a crosswired 'Smart Adapter Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S' on Amazon (I'm too new and can't post the link)... I might try that but maybe I'll return for a new one if some people don't have this battery problem, unless it turns out to be a latest firmware problem..?
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he mentioned it and linked it 2 posts above you
ive thanked him, and guess about to buy
just that shipping cost more than the item itself, sheesh
I read an article in a journal recently about how smartphones charge their batteries. The article claimed that once the charge has reached 100%, it will stop providing current to the device until it reaches 90%, after which it will then trickle charge to maintain it at about 90%. All the while the battery meter will still show 100% (at least in the case of iPhones), but after you unplug the phone the first 10% will go rather quickly as it approaches the real charge level.
True for our notes? No idea. But with how Lithium batteries work, I wouldn't be surprised.
I haven't gotten my Note to discharge while plugged in with the OEM AC charger. In the car however, running Waze will suck the life out of it even while charging. (My car charger puts out about 150mA less than the OEM AC charger). Oddly enough, running Navigon on battery alone has less discharge than running Waze while plugged in...Which sucks, because while Waze has crappy directions, it has saved me many hours by routing around traffic. But at least the phone still charges while using Navigon and streaming some Pandora.
Did you guys notice the battery take too long for full charge? Especially charging while in use. It seems doesnt charge at all
Could anyone help me out? I was charging and surfing web the XTZ at the same time, but the battery even went down by 2 to 3% in 3 hours even though the tablet was charging. Is it common or should I exchange it?
Thanks
Is this with the charger and cable it came with? I am not having this problem but different chargers and cables can cause issues
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Yea I had mine at 10%, put it in to charge. Come back home 6-7 hrs later and it's only at 44%?!?
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Is this with the charger and cable it came with? I am not having this problem but different chargers and cables can cause issues
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Yes. I used the original charger and cable. When I let the screen on while charging, it seems like its just preventing the battery run down, instead of adding more charge. I guess I got a defective battery. When the screen off, it just take too long for full charge, like almost 9-10 hrs. I test the cable and charger with another device it seem working fine. How long it take for you to do full charge when screen of btw?
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Yes. I used the original charger and cable. When I let the screen on while charging, it seems like its just preventing the battery run down, instead of adding more charge. I guess I got a defective battery. When the screen off, it just take too long for full charge, like almost 9-10 hrs. I test the cable and charger with another device it seem working fine. How long it take for you to do full charge when screen of btw?
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I don't know exactly how long. But charging and using the device at the same time is no problem and adds charge at an ok rate. I would guess that a total charge would take around 4 hours but it is a guess.
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Yea I had mine at 10%, put it in to charge. Come back home 6-7 hrs later and it's only at 44%?!?
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Have you tried Stamina mode while charging? I believe it shuts down some background processing while the tablet is asleep. Might help speed up charging.
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Have you tried Stamina mode while charging? I believe it shuts down some background processing while the tablet is asleep. Might help speed up charging.
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I did some research and this is what I came up with...
-- the USB charging seems to be hard-limited to a maximum of 500mAh intake. This is consistent with the original USB specifications, although no one really adheres to those anymore anyways. Charging with 500mAh is bound to take a long time and presumable even light usage (screen-on + sufing) will prevent charging at all and still drain the battery or keep it at the same charge level. I consider this a quite major design fault and wonder why Sony did this - if they had any strong reasons (overheating near USB port due to the thin build and no heatsink properties of the material?) or if it can and will be adressed later on by software (I am not sure if that is the case...)
-- this also means that using different chargers (if they work at all, the Tablet seems to be picky and did not make use of two generic ones that were tried, only a HTC wallcharger was accepted next to the original Sony one) that put out more than those 500mAh will either not work or they will deliver just the 500mAh the USB port accepts as a maximum
-- however the charging cradle contacts will readily charge the tablet with up to 1500mAh
If one were to assume the worst of Sony one could say they probably limited the USB charging to a minimum to push the sales of their original chargers. On the other hand one can argue that SLOW charging is actually better for the battery longevity, so Sony could defend that move with that reasoning...
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Have you tried Stamina mode while charging? I believe it shuts down some background processing while the tablet is asleep. Might help speed up charging.
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I'd also believe this might help charging faster while not using the device. Could anyone try that, please? I'm interested in the results. (My XTZ hasn't arrived yet )
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I'd also believe this might help charging faster while not using the device. Could anyone try that, please? I'm interested in the results. (My XTZ hasn't arrived yet )
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There is a thing that while playing "heavy" games and charging from usb connected to pc it even dicharges. If connect it to stock charger (1.5A) it manages to charge but very very slow. There are chargers for 3.1A or even 5A which will charge your device very quickly.
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There is a thing that while playing "heavy" games and charging from usb connected to pc it even dicharges. If connect it to stock charger (1.5A) it manages to charge but very very slow. There are chargers for 3.1A or even 5A which will charge your device very quickly.
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Have you actually tried one of those with success? If so what is yout exact serial number for the XTZ ? As I laid out in my post a little bit above yours the XTZ seems to not take more than 500mAh via USB even from any charger...
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I did some research and this is what I came up with...
-- the USB charging seems to be hard-limited to a maximum of 500mAh intake. This is consistent with the original USB specifications, although no one really adheres to those anymore anyways. Charging with 500mAh is bound to take a long time and presumable even light usage (screen-on + sufing) will prevent charging at all and still drain the battery or keep it at the same charge level. I consider this a quite major design fault and wonder why Sony did this - if they had any strong reasons (overheating near USB port due to the thin build and no heatsink properties of the material?) or if it can and will be adressed later on by software (I am not sure if that is the case...)
-- this also means that using different chargers (if they work at all, the Tablet seems to be picky and did not make use of two generic ones that were tried, only a HTC wallcharger was accepted next to the original Sony one) that put out more than those 500mAh will either not work or they will deliver just the 500mAh the USB port accepts as a maximum
-- however the charging cradle contacts will readily charge the tablet with up to 1500mAh
If one were to assume the worst of Sony one could say they probably limited the USB charging to a minimum to push the sales of their original chargers. On the other hand one can argue that SLOW charging is actually better for the battery longevity, so Sony could defend that move with that reasoning...
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WTF...
i just did check the charger ... its 1500 mAh output. But it surely doesnt charge with that so clearly usb is limiting it Oo. So clearly dock is a must not only no flaping cover but also faster charge. Anyone with dock can confirm that ?
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WTF...
i just did check the charger ... its 1500 mAh output. But it surely doesnt charge with that so clearly usb is limiting it Oo. So clearly dock is a must not only no flaping cover but also faster charge. Anyone with dock can confirm that ?
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I guess this how they boost the sale of their dock and avoid overheating..limit the USB output. They also sell the micro USB and charger on sony website. Dont know if it could make any difference.
I had my tablet plugged into my pc and while I was using it the battery actually went up a 1 or 2 percent. I got mine two days ago so maybe it's an early production issue?
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I had my tablet plugged into my pc and while I was using it the battery actually went up a 1 or 2 percent. I got mine two days ago so maybe it's an early production issue?
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I noticed that if I set the brightness to the minimum, I would be able to charge while screen on. If I set to max or somewhere middle, i would not. did it happen to you? if not I think my battery got issue then.
I believe mine was on auto brightness for that moment. I did notice that in the last two days, full brightness drains the battery A LOT. Within 2 hrs of screen time I was down to 55% battery
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Just got mine XTZ and so happy with it, but same thing it take so long for charge it even with the wallplug.
I just notice, i have the XZ and if i use the cable directly on the phone it take a long time for charge it too. But if u use the dock my phone charge in less than one hour ( or maybe a little bit more), So i can guess is a usb limitation on the sony product (or maybe a marketing trap)
Sorry for my English.
In my case, since i've the Galaxy S4 ATT version, i use that wall charger i've not tried the one that comes with the tablet but the S4 charger is a 2A while the Tablet Z is 1.5, with the S4 one + stamina mode + auto brightness + special mode(only 1 core running under clocked to 1036Mhz, conservative governor) my tablet charges ultra fast from 10% to 50% in 1 hour and half or even less, also my standby time is up to 8 days at full battery.
If you have your tablet rooted and you want to use my special mode, just download CPU Adjuster from Play Store, give it root permissions, then create a screen off profile, 1 core, max 1036Mhz and that's it.
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I did some research and this is what I came up with...
-- the USB charging seems to be hard-limited to a maximum of 500mAh intake. This is consistent with the original USB specifications, although no one really adheres to those anymore anyways. Charging with 500mAh is bound to take a long time and presumable even light usage (screen-on + sufing) will prevent charging at all and still drain the battery or keep it at the same charge level. I consider this a quite major design fault and wonder why Sony did this - if they had any strong reasons (overheating near USB port due to the thin build and no heatsink properties of the material?) or if it can and will be adressed later on by software (I am not sure if that is the case...)
-- this also means that using different chargers (if they work at all, the Tablet seems to be picky and did not make use of two generic ones that were tried, only a HTC wallcharger was accepted next to the original Sony one) that put out more than those 500mAh will either not work or they will deliver just the 500mAh the USB port accepts as a maximum
-- however the charging cradle contacts will readily charge the tablet with up to 1500mAh
If one were to assume the worst of Sony one could say they probably limited the USB charging to a minimum to push the sales of their original chargers. On the other hand one can argue that SLOW charging is actually better for the battery longevity, so Sony could defend that move with that reasoning...
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why should it be like that? We have a 6Amp battery in there and if it WOULD charge all the time with 500mAh max we would have a charging time of 12 hours. But if the battery reaches 80% charge charging will be much slower. That means if your statement would be true, we would have charging time of over 14-15 hours.
I charged mine in 6-7 hours. 6000/6=1000 so it´s normal for our 1,5 Amp charger.
Okay, tested it. Shorty story is, there is no difference between charging via dock and charging directly via USB port.
Long story:
- variation tested: SGP312 (WLAN 32GB)
- Battery percentage at start: 58%
- Charging time: 70 minutes
- Charger used - the one which came with the Tablet. The dock does not have a charger in either case, you have to use the Tablet one (which I do) or a 3rd party charger for it.
The only difference between the tests is that once the USB cable went directly into the Tablet and once the USB cable went into the dock.
Battery percentage after 70 Minutes with USB cable: 80%
Battery percentage after 70 Minutes with Dock: 81%
So basically, it got from 60 to 80% about ~1150mA / hour independently of the charging method.
As a sidenote, bringing it from 80% back to 58% took 28 minutes of playing a 1080p mkv at full display brightness,