Just got root and want to rid myself of bloatware, however, lots or random comments about how best to accomplish this. For many it seems to come down to gaining access to more space (favoring delete) vs ability to restore should there be an issue later (favoring freeze). Not sure where disable comes in between them.
Thoughts? Benefits of one over the other?
Lastly, if I install Hyperdrive does all the above become moot if it disappears?
Nothing?
If you have the knowledge and ability to fix your phone if things go sour then delete. If not, freeze.
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^^ This
wedmiston said:
Just got root and want to rid myself of bloatware, however, lots or random comments about how best to accomplish this. For many it seems to come down to gaining access to more space (favoring delete) vs ability to restore should there be an issue later (favoring freeze). Not sure where disable comes in between them.
Thoughts? Benefits of one over the other?
Lastly, if I install Hyperdrive does all the above become moot if it disappears?
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The space you gain is pretty minimal actually, but if you are the type of person who has tons of apps then perhaps that little bit will matter. I have all my bloat frozen and still have plenty of space left on internal memory, but then again I'm not the type of person with hundreds of apps. I'm pretty sure if you just Odin the stock image back to your phone all the bloat will be back, so it's not really the end of the line deleting it. It's really just up to you as to what's more convenient.
Good points Craw...I have maybe 60-70 apps and I'm not a big collector beyond that...too much and I can't even remember what they all do. I think I'll freeze for now per your suggestion. I have Titanium backup Pro - is that the best tool for it?
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The space you gain is pretty minimal actually, but if you are the type of person who has tons of apps then perhaps that little bit will matter. I have all my bloat frozen and still have plenty of space left on internal memory, but then again I'm not the type of person with hundreds of apps. I'm pretty sure if you just Odin the stock image back to your phone all the bloat will be back, so it's not really the end of the line deleting it. It's really just up to you as to what's more convenient.
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I have over 400 apps, plenty of room left. Bloat ware is too small to be called bloat. Call them 'unused' ware. (Some of my 400 are probably in that group)
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wedmiston said:
Good points Craw...I have maybe 60-70 apps and I'm not a big collector beyond that...too much and I can't even remember what they all do. I think I'll freeze for now per your suggestion. I have Titanium backup Pro - is that the best tool for it?
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Yeah I've been using Titanium backup for years with no problems. It's the best. Here is a list I found of bloatware that's safe to freeze, so this should help start you off: http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s4/287988-verizon-bloatware.html
of course if i go with a custom ROM bloatware won't be ann issue, right?
is it correct that right now, the only recovery i can have with ME7 is safestrap? I tried CWM or Teamwin and got stuck on a "downloading - do not turn off traget" message, so I installed Safestrap over it and it appears to have gone fine
is it also true that I cannot install CM 10.1.X with safestrap, requiring me to go with something like Hyperdrive?
Crawshayi said:
Yeah I've been using Titanium backup for years with no problems. It's the best. Here is a list I found of bloatware that's safe to freeze, so this should help start you off: http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s4/287988-verizon-bloatware.html
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Their is a list of compatible roms around here someplace. Hyperdrive is one of them. I have been using Hyperdrive version 9.1 with safestrap and its been running flawless for me. I did get a low disk space warning once but clearing cache fixed it and Its not been back since
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Greenify is another option if you don't want to freeze apps. Greenify can put the app in hibernation so its not running in the background, but unlike titanium you can still use the app. Just another option.
Delete apps that ur never going to use(system apps) freeze apps that ur going to use very rarely but u need it. Or just tweak ur build.prop for background processes
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Does it actually work? And if it does, does it save a significant amount of battery?
Ive heard it works and I've heard it doesn't work I dont use it I get about 16 - 20 hours with moderate use using the freeze option in titanium backup pro this belongs in q&a btw
My bad on the Q&A part. But thanks for the help.
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Ive heard it works and I've heard it doesn't work I dont use it I get about 16 - 20 hours with moderate use using the freeze option in titanium backup pro this belongs in q&a btw
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How, using the freeze option in Ti Backup to freeze an app, save your battery?
Some apps don't stop running when you back out of them some system apps run all the time but are not needed freeze them and they won't eat your battery all day long .......longer battery life!
Sorry for the noob question but how do you figuer out which app is running all the time even when its not showing up in the default task manager. I would love to use this feature to get more juice out of my battery.
System panel is an app you can get and see what apps are running in the background and if there not crucial to the system freeze them I would ask someone before freezing anything though cause you could really screw up your phone and have to odin back to stock which isn't that bad just a pain in the ass
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System panel is an app you can get and see what apps are running in the background and if there not crucial to the system freeze them I would ask someone before freezing anything though cause you could really screw up your phone and have to odin back to stock which isn't that bad just a pain in the ass
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Yea I think I will do this...Thanks.
Not to get off topic, but does anyone have a list or recommend common apps to freeze? I see it mentioned a lot and everyone says ask someone before freezing, but I never see examples of what is safe and what is not.
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Freeze drm and samsung apps and media hub and then I freeze whatever apps I don't use cause some apps have core functionally if you freeze them you'll get f/c but I'll try to make a list of things I freeze and post it later
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Not to get off topic, but does anyone have a list or recommend common apps to freeze? I see it mentioned a lot and everyone says ask someone before freezing, but I never see examples of what is safe and what is not.
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I'm curious about this as well. Is there a good rule of thumb abou what things are not going to cause problems to freeze?
Now, I freeze the basic stuff, like Allshare, etc. because I don't use them, but I'd like to dig deeper into what services can actually be frozen as well.
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8910035&postcount=31
Check this out. It helped me.
Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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Honeybadger said:
Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
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+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
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Thanks very much for the opinion, advice and experience!
Reading now.
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For the remaining 10% off your questions not found in those threads or searching, feel free to ask!
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort.
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That's true except for one product line.
NEXUS DEVICES
Even the nexus s, that was released with the debut of GINGERBREAD is officially supported by Google with a 4.2.2 firmware of its own.
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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What about being to move apps to sd?
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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Maybe it isn't climbing Everest, but I do rely on my phone and in turn I need it reliable. Lockups and waiting for reboots is a worry.
I need apps to work at least 95 percent of the time. I understand and occasionally sunspot caused glitch is acceptable but should be occasional. So yes, I do worry about my constant companion.
I am not just talking about rooting but finding the right ROM which will make my phone more usable and more reliable than the At&t stock rom, just trying to find the right one and install it right the first time.
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PrincessKiwi said:
^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
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Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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Honeybadger said:
Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
PrincessKiwi said:
the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience!
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
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How do make apps store data on the ext card while keeping those apps internal?
rangercaptain said:
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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Thanks for the advice, one of the reasons I am looking at upgrading is I also want google now which only cones with jb.
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That's a good reason. But our JB ROMs are the result of great effort and professionalism from our developers, but they are experimental and have issues. So to gain some features, you will definitely lose some.
I have been using 4.1.# then 4.2.2 and I think I'm going back to the N7005 ROM because I miss the features I bought the phone for. Anyway, as someone said, read and decide what the tradeoffs are, and you can always go backwards.
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Honeybadger said:
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
440bro said:
Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
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Thank you Thank you! I have had titanium backup for year but only on an old tablet that I can't do anything with anymore. It's rooted but no roms available for it.
Thought I would have to root the phone before I could back it up, but will follow you plan.
Thanks again!
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Has anyone done any de-bloating? My wife's S5 needs it bad, and I'm not sure what I can safely remove without effecting the system stability.
It would be great if there was a tool to help.
Thanks
idtheftvictim said:
Has anyone done any de-bloating? My wife's S5 needs it bad, and I'm not sure what I can safely remove without effecting the system stability.
It would be great if there was a tool to help.
Thanks
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i use titanium and freeze crap till i see it causes a issue then un freeze that app, its almost same as S4 if ya had one.
darren.wlsn1 said:
i use titanium and freeze crap till i see it causes a issue then un freeze that app, its almost same as S4 if ya had one.
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Lol
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idtheftvictim said:
Has anyone done any de-bloating? My wife's S5 needs it bad, and I'm not sure what I can safely remove without effecting the system stability.
It would be great if there was a tool to help.
Thanks
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I dont really mean to do a shameless plug or anything but if you want a tool you can check out my Project Infinity rom. With todays update I will have an Aroma installer with a near complete user selection apps installer. Eventually I hope to have every single app that is removal as an option to give the most slimmest install possible.
idtheftvictim said:
Has anyone done any de-bloating? My wife's S5 needs it bad, and I'm not sure what I can safely remove without effecting the system stability.
It would be great if there was a tool to help.
Thanks
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Before I rooted, I simply went into the Application Manager (in settings), switched to the ALL tab, and started going down the list. Particularly paid attention to items that showed up on the RUNNING tab to see what needed freezing the most. If you do it this way, you should not be able to accidentally freeze (or "Turn Off" in the app mgr) any programs that are critical to the operation of the phone.
If you want to "debloat" it further, I do recommend Titanium Backup. It is exceptionally good at freezing apps and otherwise managing backups of apps (and backing up user data from system apps, and converting from system -> user, and many other tasks...). I've been using it since my Samsung Infuse 4G. It will require root, and can do more damage because of this if you are not careful.
As others have recommended, go look at debloat lists for the Galaxy S4. The software lists are nearly identical. Just read through what each app does, and determine for yourself what is needed, and what isn't.
Lastly, if you are rooted, and you are going to debloat using a root application (like TiBu), don't forget to make a full nandroid backup using your custom recovery.... just in case.
For kicks, I tried to integrate all system app updates into the ROM. It would seem all but two work, while retaining full functionality of those that are integrated. Touchless Control and Active Display won't work, as I can see, if their updates are integrated. Some apps were faulty after integration, and needed to be uninstalled, installed from the Market, and converted to a system app...with data restored afterwards. Titanium Backup and SafeStrap RULES!!!! There is still 850Mb left in the system, so next is to drop a few 'normal' solid apps into the system. I've been advised to not integrate any launchers. Cool. It pretty much goes without saying that I do have a clean backup of the Stock system partition. I'll let things simmer first, to see whether everything can survive as a daily ROM.
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Your fat fingers posted this is the wrong section
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@OP
Sir, how do you found out the free space in system partition????
Titanium Backup report on its main screen.
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^^^^^
OH, Thanks... I have not seen this till date...
akellar said:
Your fat fingers posted this is the wrong section
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I took a stab at it...didn't seem 'general', and wasn't a 'question'.
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Einsteindks said:
I took a stab at it...didn't seem 'general', and wasn't a 'question'.
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And it's definitely not "Original Android Development" as it lacks the "development" part in addition to "original" - it's general.
Einsteindks said:
Titanium Backup report on its main screen.
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I want to inform one thing... Please don't go on add things to system (using TiBackupPro) to save Internal storage, as I think the report in start screen is either not accurate or there will be some issues if we keep on converting apps to system-apps.
In my case, TiBackup shows 1.5GB system storage FREE. I have added some 500+MB of normal apps to system. Later my phone became unstable. When I restarted it, it just bootloops...
I now have to restore stock by rsdlite. I took the risk since my MAXX's BL is unlocked. I am teling this from my experience...
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I want to inform one thing... Please don't go on add things to system (using TiBackupPro) to save Internal storage, as I think the report in start screen is either not accurate or there will be some issues if we keep on converting apps to system-apps.
In my case, TiBackup shows 1.5GB system storage FREE. I have added some 500+MB of normal apps to system. Later my phone became unstable. When I restarted it, it just bootloops...
I now have to restore stock by rsdlite. I took the risk since my MAXX's BL is unlocked. I am teling this from my experience...
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Good to know! Yeah, it was looking like not many apps I would've trusted as predictably stable enough to trust as a system convert. Ridiculous waste of space. I don't think I'll be going back to stock. I opened up some space, that's enough. ART may be fun to check out later, hadn't any problems in stock format.
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What bloatware should I look to remove from my HAM2? Are there any Huawei specific apps that i can ditch? Thanks.
GT1873 said:
What bloatware should I look to remove from my HAM2? Are there any Huawei specific apps that i can ditch? Thanks.
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I've removed these 7. Keep backups of them in case you want to update your system. The official update from Huawei checked for and patched these system apps. If they weren't found the update would fail. Restoring the apps fixed that problem.
Text list if you can't see the pictures:
Weather (HwWeatherClock.apk)
Twitter (Twitter.apk)
Navigate (ROUTE66.apk)
MOCALite 1.0.9 (HwMOCALite.apk)
Me Widget (HwMeWidget_MT2-L03.apk)
Get Asphalt 8 (GetAsphalt8_PGA1_HuaweiMate2_OpenMarket_v100.apk)
Facebook (Facebook.apk)
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pucherto123 said:
Do I back up the apps using titanium back up?
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Titanium Backup would work. Or App Master. Or manually back them up using ES File Explorer. As long as you have a backup that's all that matters. You'll need these system app backups for when the next update comes out (unless that update wipes everything out).
Delete Facebook
arcadesdude said:
I've removed these 7. Keep backups of them in case you want to update your system. The official update from Huawei checked for and patched these system apps. If they weren't found the update would fail. Restoring the apps fixed that problem.
Text list if you can't see the pictures:
Weather (HwWeatherClock.apk)
Twitter (Twitter.apk)
Navigate (ROUTE66.apk)
MOCALite 1.0.9 (HwMOCALite.apk)
Me Widget (HwMeWidget_MT2-L03.apk)
Get Asphalt 8 (GetAsphalt8_PGA1_HuaweiMate2_OpenMarket_v100.apk)
Facebook (Facebook.apk)
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Where can I find the Facebook app to delete it? I've gotten everything else. Thanks.
Honestly, I don't see a reason to remove any of these apps... they are in the system folders so you won't gain any space or anything, just disable them and you won't see them and any updates will still work fine without doing anything special.
TBH, compared to many phones, this list is very minimal.
I guess I just want more control. That's one of the reasons I choose to root my devices. It's OK to stay completely the way the phone comes, regardless of how much or little bloatware is on the device. It is up to the user to choose. That is one of the many reasons Why Android is so popular.
acejavelin said:
Honestly, I don't see a reason to remove any of these apps... they are in the system folders so you won't gain any space or anything, just disable them and you won't see them and any updates will still work fine without doing anything special.
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This sounds like very good advice. Thanks acejavelin. I never really thought about it but since the apps are in a non-usable (for the user) partition, your recommendation makes perfect sense. I already pushed your Thanks button.
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tomlogan1 said:
I guess I just want more control. That's one of the reasons I choose to root my devices. It's OK to stay completely the way the phone comes, regardless of how much or little bloatware is on the device. It is up to the user to choose. That is one of the many reasons Why Android is so popular.
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Control of what? You don't get any control because the apps are in a separate partition that you can't use. In fact, you lose some control because when you delete the apps you can't get OTA.
Just freeze them so they can't run. There's no point deleting them. 7 seems trivial though. I froze more than 50 on mine. There's nothing from Huawei on my phone except the camera app.
lucasho2312 said:
Just freeze them so they can't run. There's no point deleting them. 7 seems trivial though. I froze more than 50 on mine. There's nothing from Huawei on my phone except the camera app.
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I normally back them up so I can delete and save space. Should I need them later on it's simple to restore. But freezing them is a good method since it will let you know if it shall cause issues later on.
SHM said:
I normally back them up so I can delete and save space. Should I need them later on it's simple to restore. But freezing them is a good method since it will let you know if it shall cause issues later on.
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Comment above has pointed out that you don't gain space by deleting system apps. Or rather, you gain unusable space.
If you do prefer delete/restore, remember to back up the data (tweak TiBu to backup full data cuz it will ignore data if data is larger than the apk itself). I had problems with Dialer/Phone and System UI apps without original data. Navigation bar will be lost (it is there but it can't be touched/controlled) and incoming calls cause crash.
lucasho2312 said:
Comment above has pointed out that you don't gain space by deleting system apps. Or rather, you gain unusable space.
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One, you do gain space, two, that space is usable. An average user wouldn't seem to know how to take advantage of this it seems. But to me, I make use of it everyday. - @acejavelin
If you do prefer delete/restore, remember to back up the data (tweak TiBu to backup full data cuz it will ignore data if data is larger than the apk itself).
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I don't use TiBu. Never really cared for it. I use other methods more command-line based within the terminal emulator.
I had problems with Dialer/Phone and System UI apps without original data. Navigation bar will be lost (it is there but it can't be touched/controlled) and incoming calls cause crash.
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This is why it's good to know what to delete and not delete. If familiar with your device then it becomes second nature, but when jumping ship and getting a new device it is typically best to freeze and see the results. Although freezing is no different than saving and deleting. Only thing that distinguishes these two methods is when you freeze the system app, it's still there (and yes, using space). Where as when you keep it safe, say, your sdcard, then it's as simple as placing back, and/or if the particular file causes the device to go bonkers then TWRP makes it possible to fix the problem as well.