How do you feel about the size of this phone? I have small hands where my thumb sits easy where the power button is on the S3 but struggle one handed to get the notification bar. Almost 100% sold on getting this one and noticed the dimension differences but would like some feed back from the rest of you.
Sure I can go into the store but those dam security things mess with figuring out how the phone would really feel. Of course finding a sales rep at VZW that is willing to let you hold a real one is rare now of days.
Thanks for feedback! If all sounds well I will grab mine Friday.
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How do you feel about the size of this phone? I have small hands where my thumb sits easy where the power button is on the S3 but struggle one handed to get the notification bar. Almost 100% sold on getting this one and noticed the dimension differences but would like some feed back from the rest of you.
Sure I can go into the store but those dam security things mess with figuring out how the phone would really feel. Of course finding a sales rep at VZW that is willing to let you hold a real one is rare now of days.
Thanks for feedback! If all sounds well I will grab mine Friday.
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I thought it was too big to go from S3 to XZ, but i got use to it, and I thought it was too big to go from XZ to G2 but it actually felt like its the same size as the 5in XZ phone, point is I have small hands and I really dont like the Samsung note so this is why I picked this phone. I like to text and drive with one hand what can I say, dont judge me....
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How do you feel about the size of this phone?
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I'm not a former S3 owner, but I also struggle with the notification bar. Other than that I seriously love this phone comming from the Note 2.
It would be nice if LG added a hardware button shortcut for the notification bar. But until then, there is the possibility of using the software button. Some of the combinations have a notification bar short cut:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Unfortunately those are all the combinations.
Since i like to have the back button to the right, I find it easier to move the phone in my hand and pull down the notifications rather than reaching all the way across the screen to get the software button short cut.
Yes the note Series is too big for me. I have a coworker who has one and I just can't wrap mmyself to get one, plus price and audio specs appeal to me and the camera is nice. I love how small the moto X is but wow the camera is terrible as always with Motorola.
I really haven't looked back since I switched from the G3. 1)Raw speed- My S3 is insanely slow compared to the G2, not marginally slower. 2)Form factor bigger nicer screen in a not much bigger phone. 3)Not missing the side buttons on the S3, too easy to accidently hit. You will love the knock on feature. 4)Camera- Not even close OIS is nice.
I could keep going, but hopefully these items will help you make a decision.
This phone is quite difficult if not impossible to use with one hand (and I have large hands), for example compared to my former Nexus 4. However LG tried their best to facilitate this (for example by placing the menu on the bottom bar instead of on the left top corner - it seems that none of the reviewers realized why and just bashed LG), You can try to facilitate one-hand use by placing the icons within reach on the home screen, by placing shortcuts to most used web sites on the home screen, etc.
I came from an S3 and I love this phone. Knock On will be the savior for you when you get the phone. One handed use is no problem. I use it all the time and it's quite manageable. You'll love the refreshing screen technology coming from the S3 and the battery is loads better.
I suggest taking on for a test run and returning it if you aren't happy - but I assure you, you will be
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How do you feel about the size of this phone? I have small hands where my thumb sits easy where the power button is on the S3 but struggle one handed to get the notification bar. Almost 100% sold on getting this one and noticed the dimension differences but would like some feed back from the rest of you.
Sure I can go into the store but those dam security things mess with figuring out how the phone would really feel. Of course finding a sales rep at VZW that is willing to let you hold a real one is rare now of days.
Thanks for feedback! If all sounds well I will grab mine Friday.
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I was surprised but even though the screen is larger, the actual footprint is just about the same as the S3. I thought I would never get rid of my SGS3, but I love this phone.
Gnarfsan said:
I'm not a former S3 owner, but I also struggle with the notification bar. Other than that I seriously love this phone comming from the Note 2.
It would be nice if LG added a hardware button shortcut for the notification bar. But until then, there is the possibility of using the software button. Some of the combinations have a notification bar short cut:
Unfortunately those are all the combinations.
Since i like to have the back button to the right, I find it easier to move the phone in my hand and pull down the notifications rather than reaching all the way across the screen to get the software button short cut.
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I was going to say the same thing but you beat me to it.
LG thought ahead on this issue (bigger screen makes it harder to pull down the notification bar) so they implemented a software button that you can add to the navigation bar that can be used for expanding and collapsing the notification bar. At first I didn't think I would like the idea of adding more buttons to the nav bar, mainly because I am used to the stock android approach where you have the back button on the far left, home button in the middle and the menu/multi task button on the far right. But I find it really handy to have the button for the notification bar on the nav bar and have pretty much gotten used to having 4 soft buttons instead of the default 3.
I friggin love this phone lol i used all the galaxy series starting from s1 to s4., as well as note 1 and 2.
Personally, im not a big fan of hardware keys. ( home and volume)
After while, they would become somewhat loosened up and make squeeky sounds whenever i press on them on my samsung phones.
For the physical home buttons, it feels like ur double clicking the key after while.
G2 has hard keys on the back, but it feels like more rigid and solid than samsung phone's.
Sent from LG G2
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This phone is quite difficult if not impossible to use with one hand (and I have large hands), for example compared to my former Nexus 4. However LG tried their best to facilitate this (for example by placing the menu on the bottom bar instead of on the left top corner - it seems that none of the reviewers realized why and just bashed LG), You can try to facilitate one-hand use by placing the icons within reach on the home screen, by placing shortcuts to most used web sites on the home screen, etc.
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dude my hand measure 8" from thumb to tip of middle finger...thats a small hand, I can hold it one hand easily...U must have really small hand or ****ty grip
get in the gym and do some deadlift bro...it'll help u grab all 150 gram of the phone...
so went and tried it at the store today... corporate stores are getting nice now with these "smart stores".
one handed texting isn't quite as easy... when reaching to left side. noticed I held the phone different so reaching notification isn't as bad.
wish corporate had a model that didn't have that dumb "smart cover" on it. took a bit away from giving a solid yes or no.... then I thought of my cousin who's thunderbolt doesn't even let them get online so I am going to pull the trigger on this tomorrow and root it Thursday lol *must have flash and restore all my text and dress up my phone the way I like it*
thanks for all the feed back, took it into consideration as I was playing with the phone. Wish Verizon didn't mess with the rocker on the back but still feels goodish.
I made the switch from my S3 to this phone because I actually wanted a bigger screen. I have pretty large hands so getting to the notification bar isn't difficult at all. What I do miss however is running Nova Launcher. I had the gesture setup so if I swiped down from anywhere on the screen it would pull the notification tray down. I don't use Nova on the G2 because it disables the knockOn feature, which I can't seem to live without now
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I made the switch from my S3 to this phone because I actually wanted a bigger screen. I have pretty large hands so getting to the notification bar isn't difficult at all. What I do miss however is running Nova Launcher. I had the gesture setup so if I swiped down from anywhere on the screen it would pull the notification tray down. I don't use Nova on the G2 because it disables the knockOn feature, which I can't seem to live without now
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I still use Nova launcher for exactly that reason - swipe up opens my app drawer and swipe down expands my notifications bar. Here is a tidbit in case you didn't know... you can still use knock off as long as you tap on the notification bar. Also if you want full knock off you can assign the double tap feature in Nova to tasker and task it to turn the screen off. I just use the notification bar to tap off and am in heaven
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I still use Nova launcher for exactly that reason - swipe up opens my app drawer and swipe down expands my notifications bar. Here is a tidbit in case you didn't know... you can still use knock off as long as you tap on the notification bar. Also if you want full knock off you can assign the double tap feature in Nova to tasker and task it to turn the screen off. I just use the notification bar to tap off and am in heaven
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Thanks for that. Trying to tap the notification bar though is annoying for me. What's tasker? I don't have that an an option to assign to the double tap gesture.
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I made the switch from my S3 to this phone because I actually wanted a bigger screen. I have pretty large hands so getting to the notification bar isn't difficult at all. What I do miss however is running Nova Launcher. I had the gesture setup so if I swiped down from anywhere on the screen it would pull the notification tray down. I don't use Nova on the G2 because it disables the knockOn feature, which I can't seem to live without now
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I use Nova Launcher too; I've always liked swiping down from anywhere on the screen to bring the Notification bar down.
Nova Launcher doesn't disable the Knock On feature, it disables the Knock Off feature.
But, there is a workaround. Just go the Play Store and download this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.katecca.screenofflock
You can set it as a double tap gesture to make the phone go to sleep. It's working great for me.
bouchigo said:
I use Nova Launcher too; I've always liked swiping down from anywhere on the screen to bring the Notification bar down.
Nova Launcher doesn't disable the Knock On feature, it disables the Knock Off feature.
But, there is a workaround. Just go the Play Store and download this app:
You can set it as a double tap gesture to make the phone go to sleep. It's working great for me.
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That did it! Thank you very much. I just might make the switch back to Nova after all once I do some tweaking with my widgets.
Vertigo06 said:
That did it! Thank you very much. I just might make the switch back to Nova after all once I do some tweaking with my widgets.
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Cool! Glad it worked out for you. If you have Tasker, you can set it up there too if you prefer that option.
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Cool! Glad it worked out for you. If you have Tasker, you can set it up there too if you prefer that option.
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That's what dajmanjt mentioned. I looked at Tasker a while ago but figured it wasn't for me. Now I'm starting to think it may not be a bad investment.
I have small, wide hands and i have no issues with one handed use. If you're on stock rom you can make the dialer flush to the left or right. Thumb keyboard has one handed operation available.
I either hold the phone a little higher up for one handed use or it lays near the end of my fingers. No issues. Adaptation is all that matters.
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zMooth works on nook's with rooted android 2.2+.
zMooth lets you use gestures to mimic your device's hardware keys (back, home, menu and power(in Pro)), you will be able to use very intuitive gestures to navigate your device.
zMooth is unobtrusive and uses minimum amount of screen space but very easy and intuitive to use. If you use for couple of days you won't even think about using the buttons.
After you install the app you will see a blue area at the bottom of the screen, swipe left on this area to go back, swipe right for menu, gesture a up-arrow(^) for home and gesture a lightning strike/thunderbolt to power off. Please check the screen shots and video for more info.
App website
App market link
Support is built-in to the app, "Preferences->Help" will resolve most issues. If not resolved just contact me through "Preferences->Help->Contact Support" and I will be happy to resolve any issues.
Thanks.
it works, its kinda cool but being able to move the gesture area would be great
Can you provide screenshot of your nook, never tested on it so was wondering on how it looks.
Would you mind if I use your screenshot in other places? (hope your screenshot doesn't show any personal details)
windroidHD said:
Please check out my app to replace hardware keys using gestures. I tested it on HD2 and don't have a nook, would appreciate any feedback if you could try it on your nook.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027112
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Thanks.
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Really awesome application. I'm the kind who can't stand having soft buttons popping out by the side. This works wonderfully for me. Didn't know how to use it at first though. There should be a quick guide in this app without having to connect to the internet to view the FAQ.
However, with that said, this is still awesome. Love it.
WOW! I'd say I spend about 1/1000th of my time on XDA in the themes and apps section...Now..in one day..the sense icons for settings..the honeycomb style softkeys are here (which are awesome..but now obsolete IMO...because of THIS! this is EPIC!)...It took me about 1 minute to get so comfortable w this that I completely hid my dockbar and statusbar...Now I have ALLmy screen real estate, except for a thin blue line at the bottom of my screen that does it all. This is going straight on my EVO...and I'd bet you start seeing something like this on factory releases or at least as an option. A very simple yet brilliant idea. It actually makes me feel a little bit sad for Murdock...he accomplished so much for CM7 in SO little time..and now this comes along.TRY this NOW.
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It's OK but interferes with stuff on the bottom - there should be an option to move the swiping area. Also, it doesn't always register touches.
Wow!!!
Sounds awesome, i'm trying this straight away
Looks like I won't be having to double click my home screen button anymore
+1 for being able to move the swipe area. I don't like gestures over my dock.
Yeah, I Sent an Email
to the developers to enable the gesture area to be moved - until the app is useless and will probably get hammered on ratings in the market. I'm giving it one star until they do this.
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to the developers to enable the gesture area to be moved - until the app is useless and will probably get hammered on ratings in the market. I'm giving it one star until they do this.
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You don't Even NEED to use the launcher's dock...that's why there's an option for losing it under a launcher's settings....Eliminate the dock...Put a shortcut or action butons to whatever you want on either side of the "thin blue line", and you're golden. The gesture area can be adjusted to where its about a third of the size of a dockbar anyway, so I don't really understand that issue...I set my swipe options to hide/unhide my notification bar (which now lives at the top)..so my end results look like these before and after shots: From A to B to C....Who likes C?
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Moving of swipe area is under development in Pro version. I wanted to make the moving very intuitive/configurable so it's taking time.
To people who are threatning with 1 * rating, you are just being mean.
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Awesome app, got the pro verison. Keep up the good work.
1 bug to report. When modifying the display of the bar, values seem to constantly reset when going into the sliders, though the physical bar won't change itself until you return. You might want to make the sliders default to the currently set points when entering the screen.
Ceger
Ceger said:
Awesome app, got the pro verison. Keep up the good work.
1 bug to report. When modifying the display of the bar, values seem to constantly reset when going into the sliders, though the physical bar won't change itself until you return. You might want to make the sliders default to the currently set points when entering the screen.
Ceger
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incorrect value issue is on my list.
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You don't Even NEED to use the launcher's dock...that's why there's an option for losing it under a launcher's settings....Eliminate the dock...Put a shortcut or action butons to whatever you want on either side of the "thin blue line", and you're golden. The gesture area can be adjusted to where its about a third of the size of a dockbar anyway, so I don't really understand that issue...I set my swipe options to hide/unhide my notification bar (which now lives at the top)..so my end results look like these before and after shots: From A to B to C....Who likes C?
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I get what you are saying, but it's a to each his own thing. Maybe some people REALLY like their docks. I actually do hide my dock, but I don't want to have to do all of my gestures on the bottom of the screen. I already use gestures in ADW. Swipe up for notifications (notification bar on the bottom), swipe down for my app drawer. I would like to use this app for side to side gestures, and preferably I would like the gestures to take place somewhere in the center.
..and windroidHD, just to be clear. Your app is awesome. I would just like to see the additional functionality. It sounds like you're on top of it, and I gladly await the arrival of a pro version that will allow me to move the swipe area.
regarding why it's at the bottom of the screen to start with...
Why not left?. because when you think about back, intuition is to swipe back, if gesture area is on left side then you can't swipe left as your finger will move out of screen and gesture can't be recognized.
Why not right?, same as above but for menu.
Why not top?, If it's at the top then your hand has to obstruct the screen and do a gesture at the top of screen, this breaks the visual link of your eyes with screen.
Google knew that they made a mistake with android hardware buttons, that's why honeycomb has fewer hardware buttons and soft buttons at the bottom.
The "standard" way of designing in android seems to be let user configure everything and figure out the layout of app, that to me is absolute crap. Developer has to think what makes most sense and let the user not worry and do trial and error out the position of gesture area.
That said, I don't have nook so I don't know the general workflow on it. Configuration of position still under development.
windroidHD said:
regarding why it's at the bottom of the screen...
Why not left?. because when you think about back, intuition is to swipe back, if gesture area is on left side then you can't swipe left as your finger will move out of screen and gesture can't be recognized.
Why not right?, same as above but for menu.
Why not top?, If it's at the top then your hand has to obstruct the screen and do a gesture at the top of screen, this breaks the visual link of your eyes with screen.
Google knew that they made a mistake with android hardware buttons, that's why honeycomb has fewer hardware buttons and soft buttons at the bottom.
The "standard" way of designing in android seems to be let user configure everything and figure out the layout of app, that to me is absolute crap. Developer has to think what makes most sense and let the user not worry and do trial and error out the position of gesture area.
That said, I don't have nook so I don't know the general workflow on it.
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No offense, but you're not giving your end users very much credit.
...it's all about options.
Give me the option to do it whichever way I want, and let ME figure out which works best for my setup.
philburkhardt said:
No offense, but you're not giving your end users very much credit.
...it's all about options.
Give me the option to do it whichever way I want, and let ME figure out which works best for my setup.
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I understand if it sounded like I was "not giving credit", but do you see why I picked bottom to start with?. On contrary to not giving credit I have added options in the first Pro version itself to let user pick his colors and size which suits their theme and finger size.
Can you let me know which of my points about position are incorrect?, may be I am wrong, but which one will work for nook workflow?.
Thanks.
philburkhardt said:
No offense, but you're not giving your end users very much credit.
...it's all about options.
Give me the option to do it whichever way I want, and let ME figure out which works best for my setup.
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Here's a perfect option: Write your own app or don't use this one. OP..purchasing pro now...(and I almost NEVER buy apps)....and telling everyone I know to do the same. Change things if you want, but this version is quite perfect in my opinion. Off to Reddit to absolutely honk this. Great Job.
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mazook98 said:
Here's a perfect option: Write your own app or don't use this one. OP..purchasing pro now...(and I almost NEVER buy apps)....and telling everyone I know to do the same. Change things if you want, but this version is quite perfect in my opinion. Off to Reddit to absolutely honk this. Great Job.
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Thank you. Don't forget to rate the app .
Just for future reference support is built-in to the app, "Preferences->Help" will resolve most issues. If not resolved just contact me through "Preferences->Help->Contact Support" and I will be happy to resolve any issues.
mazook98 said:
Here's a perfect option: Write your own app or don't use this one. OP..purchasing pro now...(and I almost NEVER buy apps)....and telling everyone I know to do the same. Change things if you want, but this version is quite perfect in my opinion. Off to Reddit to absolutely honk this. Great Job.
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Pretty harsh buddy. All I did was request a feature. That is what happens in every other app thread I have been in. I wasn't rude, I didn't threaten to leave a crappy rating.
...I also stated my intent to get the pro version.
I am glad it is perfect for you. Enjoy.
Ok my first one,
Why make the pattern unlock in the middle of this big screen? it should be movable to toward the bottom or sides. Very hard to unlock one-handed.
Very surprised so far on how well i can hold this phone on a crowed subway, its like perfectly weighted, when u thing your gonna drop it it swings right into the palm of your hand
You can unlock it anywere on the screen.
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corey_r said:
You can unlock it anywere on the screen.
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OP is talking about the pattern unlock, not the default unlock.
This is just another case of hand size/finger length which is just a matter of getting used to the device or finding an app to ease the situation.
SysAdmNj said:
This is just another case of hand size/finger length which is just a matter of getting used to the device or finding an app to ease the situation.
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Any suggestions on apps? I love the pattern lock screen, but even on my old Vibrant i would constatly get locked out, always missing pattern. It is not easy now to unlock on handed, which is important on a crowded NYC subway...
luckly i have doubletwist player to change my music w/o unlocking...
nymviper1126 said:
Any suggestions on apps? I love the pattern lock screen, but even on my old Vibrant i would constatly get locked out, always missing pattern. It is not easy now to unlock on handed, which is important on a crowded NYC subway...
luckly i have doubletwist player to change my music w/o unlocking...
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As far as the lock screen goes, I'm not using it. I use an app called no lock which bypasses the lock screen. I dont have nothing to hide yet
But for you, not sure if you need to be rooted to mess with the dpi apps where it will make the pixels larger and might make the reach easier for you but not 100% sure.
My nitpick is putting Airplane mode in the Notification area shortcuts instead of Silent Mode.
RuzaRoos said:
My nitpick is putting Airplane mode in the Notification area shortcuts instead of Silent Mode.
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You can hold power button to switch to silent mode
RuzaRoos said:
My nitpick is putting Airplane mode in the Notification area shortcuts instead of Silent Mode.
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^^ This.
I just said the same thing about an hour ago.
kanate said:
You can hold power button to switch to silent mode
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You can also hold volume down. Having it in the notification bar is redundant to me. I'd rather have a lte switch, honestly.
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1. Can't voice dial using bluetooth when there's a password set.
2. Can only sync 30 days' worth of Exchange email*.
3. No option to encrypt device or SD card*.
4. Font in email app, even when set to "tiny", is too large. I was able to somewhat mitigate this with the installation of a font pack and a font sizing utility, but would prefer that the built-in options worked better.
5. Email body pinch-zoom setting is not saved between message viewings.
6. Email app forces auto-refresh every time a mailbox is opened. Useless for push accounts and wastes battery. If I set a 1hr polling interval, just honor it. I'll refresh if I want to as there's a menu option for that right at my fingertips.
7. Would prefer the option to turn off LTE as I'm in a fringe area and I believe it is negatively impacting my battery life. The big battery test is today, after several days of use and several full overnight charges.
8. Personally, I think the power/volume buttons are too easy to push accidentally.
9. I wish the S-pen were 1/4' - 1/2" longer and *gasp* weighted a little. I wouldn't mind.
10. Moving items in Exchange email boxes with many folders is a difficult because there is no expanding folder hierarchy - you have to scroll through every level of every email folder and they aren't even indented to give you an idea of where you are in the list. I have something like 200 folders so it takes forever to scroll through the list*.
11. Wish the battery were bigger. Yep, I said it...
* These would probably be fixed by an ICS update
hausman said:
1. Can't voice dial using bluetooth when there's a password set.
2. Can only sync 30 days' worth of Exchange email*.
3. No option to encrypt device or SD card*.
4. Font in email app, even when set to "tiny", is too large. I was able to somewhat mitigate this with the installation of a font pack and a font sizing utility, but would prefer that the built-in options worked better.
5. Email body pinch-zoom setting is not saved between message viewings.
6. Email app forces auto-refresh every time a mailbox is opened. Useless for push accounts and wastes battery. If I set a 1hr polling interval, just honor it. I'll refresh if I want to as there's a menu option for that right at my fingertips.
7. Would prefer the option to turn off LTE as I'm in a fringe area and I believe it is negatively impacting my battery life. The big battery test is today, after several days of use and several full overnight charges.
8. Personally, I think the power/volume buttons are too easy to push accidentally.
9. I wish the S-pen were 1/4' - 1/2" longer and *gasp* weighted a little. I wouldn't mind.
10. Moving items in Exchange email boxes with many folders is a difficult because there is no expanding folder hierarchy - you have to scroll through every level of every email folder and they aren't even indented to give you an idea of where you are in the list. I have something like 200 folders so it takes forever to scroll through the list*.
11. Wish the battery were bigger. Yep, I said it...
* These would probably be fixed by an ICS update
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Phew. If those are your only griped I'm glad I don't care about any of those issues
orangekid said:
Phew. If those are your only griped I'm glad I don't care about any of those issues
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Hey, he said "nitpicks". I never said I didn't like it; these are just the things I would change.
Nitpick......the s-pen seems to be ideal for right handed people. i always seem to see a 2-3mm gap in line im drawing to where the pen actually is.
but when i put it in my right hand it seems to be alot more precise.
and YES i have changed it to left hand in the settings.
unless its the Zagg screen i have on there, but then i would think it would do the same thing for the right hand when i use but it does not.
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Nitpick......the s-pen seems to be ideal for right handed people. i always seem to see a 2-3mm gap in line im drawing to where the pen actually is.
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Do you curl your hand over like some lefties, or do you mirror the way right-handed people write? I mirror right-handers and I don't have too much trouble with the pen. It's not perfect, but OK. When I curl my hand over like some lefties, it's awful; the line is 2-3mm higher than the pen tip.
i guess there is a slight curl when im using it lefty. its like this...
if i put the pen in my right hand and start a line, the line is on the left side of the pen right under the point.
when change the phone to lefty and put the pen in my left hand and start the line....the line is still on the left side of the point so its hidden under the pen if that makes sense.
i figured putting the pen in left hand mode would change the line to the other side so us lefties could see it better.....
damn right handed world..lol
My only real nitpick is that I can't use the stylus on the capacitive buttons. Not a HUGE pain, but just a minor annoyance.
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My only real nitpick is that I can't use the stylus on the capacitive buttons. Not a HUGE pain, but just a minor annoyance.
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Yes this too...is my nitpick #2 would just make sense that it could
Sinful Animosity said:
My only real nitpick is that I can't use the stylus on the capacitive buttons. Not a HUGE pain, but just a minor annoyance.
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the2rrell said:
Yes this too...is my nitpick #2 would just make sense that it could
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That's what they included the gestures for. If I'm not mistaken, holding the button on the S Pen and swiping down on the screen takes you home, swiping up brings up the menu, and swiping left is back. And nobody cares about search anyways...haha
nymviper1126 said:
Ok my first one,
Why make the pattern unlock in the middle of this big screen? it should be movable to toward the bottom or sides. Very hard to unlock one-handed.
Very surprised so far on how well i can hold this phone on a crowed subway, its like perfectly weighted, when u thing your gonna drop it it swings right into the palm of your hand
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I have the same problem with my original pattern lock from the old phone. So what I did was change my pattern lock to just those that my thumb can reach one handed. lol. It's a bit tough to re-learn my pattern, but now I'm used to it, and I can unlock it with one hand.
I've been using my HOX+ for almost six months now, fairly light use but I'm mostly happy with it. I'm still running unrooted stock, just installed the official 4.2.2 update. This is my first real smartphone, I had an unsubsidized $100 3.14" Android smartphone last year that I don't think really qualifies.
The big complaint I have with the jump to a 4.7" screen is that one-handed use is uncomfortable and requires me to stretch to reach the corners, where the buttons are often stupidly located, or sometimes even to slide the phone up and down in my hand to make the buttons accessible, not exactly easy to do with one hand without dropping the phone. I would really like a phone that is comfortable to use one-handed, but I don't want to compromise by buying a smaller screen phone, say 4.3" or god forbid the 4" size of the iPhone, as I'm not exactly thrilled with the "looking through a keyhole" quality of 4.7" either.
I think the right solution would be a thumbwheel UI in the bottom right corner, placed in the arc right where my thumb is, so I can use it one-handed with my thumb and not have to reach with my fingers. As long as it let me virtually hit all the buttons on the screen, even native app buttons like the menu button at the top or the tab switcher button at the top in Chrome, I could even buy a phablet if there was something like this, maybe a 5.5+ inch screen that I could use comfortably one-handed with just my thumb in the bottom-right corner.
The closest thing I've been able to find like this is the Splay launcher, but I don't think such launchers actually let me control menus within apps, only launch apps. This guy wrote a small app earlier this year to do something similar, seems to be a great article talking about the idea but I don't think that effort went anywhere.
Is there any effort within the xda community to integrate a one-handed control interface like this? This is a feature that would actually make me root and install a ROM, as I haven't had the need to go to the trouble yet. I'd love to see an effort like this on Android, wonder what everyone else thinks.
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I've been using my HOX+ for almost six months now, fairly light use but I'm mostly happy with it. I'm still running unrooted stock, just installed the official 4.2.2 update. This is my first real smartphone, I had an unsubsidized $100 3.14" Android smartphone last year that I don't think really qualifies.
The big complaint I have with the jump to a 4.7" screen is that one-handed use is uncomfortable and requires me to stretch to reach the corners, where the buttons are often stupidly located, or sometimes even to slide the phone up and down in my hand to make the buttons accessible, not exactly easy to do with one hand without dropping the phone. I would really like a phone that is comfortable to use one-handed, but I don't want to compromise by buying a smaller screen phone, say 4.3" or god forbid the 4" size of the iPhone, as I'm not exactly thrilled with the "looking through a keyhole" quality of 4.7" either.
I think the right solution would be a thumbwheel UI in the bottom right corner, placed in the arc right where my thumb is, so I can use it one-handed with my thumb and not have to reach with my fingers. As long as it let me virtually hit all the buttons on the screen, even native app buttons like the menu button at the top or the tab switcher button at the top in Chrome, I could even buy a phablet if there was something like this, maybe a 5.5+ inch screen that I could use comfortably one-handed with just my thumb in the bottom-right corner.
The closest thing I've been able to find like this is the Splay launcher, but I don't think such launchers actually let me control menus within apps, only launch apps. This guy wrote a small app earlier this year to do something similar, seems to be a great article talking about the idea but I don't think that effort went anywhere.
Is there any effort within the xda community to integrate a one-handed control interface like this? This is a feature that would actually make me root and install a ROM, as I haven't had the need to go to the trouble yet. I'd love to see an effort like this on Android, wonder what everyone else thinks.
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A "Whole" UI made especially for one hand usage? Well I know the second best solution.
Install "Pie Controls" and assign it to any corner/side of the screen, it will allow you to launch apps but for the function that you want, you will need to root. Once you are rooted PIE has extra features like "Back, Home, Sleep, Menu, Recent Apps" ..etc.
A Second best is "LMT" launcher ALSO requires root. Once you have it, you will be able to have PIE Controls as well, PLUS a unique feature to have gestures working in all screens. You can swipe down to bring up the notification bar or swipe up for recent apps. The reason i put it as second best was because I don't really like it ..
Ofcourse there are normal launchers , like nova launcher ..etc. that allows you to swipe down to bring up the notifications but sadly that only works on the home screen.
There are also ROMS like AOKP (For us Carbon rom or something similar) which has a stock feeling but extra buttons in the Power menu. When you hold down the power menu , under the normal "Power off, restart, screenshot, airplane" you will also find "Back, Home, Recent apps"
I honestly think that PIE Controls is the best app to have out of them all since it works on all ROMs . Though for full features you should buy the Pro version.
P.S: All apps that you are looking for will require ROOT access.
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A "Whole" UI made especially for one hand usage? Well I know the second best solution.
Install "Pie Controls" and assign it to any corner/side of the screen, it will allow you to launch apps but for the function that you want, you will need to root. Once you are rooted PIE has extra features like "Back, Home, Sleep, Menu, Recent Apps" ..etc.
A Second best is "LMT" launcher ALSO requires root. Once you have it, you will be able to have PIE Controls as well, PLUS a unique feature to have gestures working in all screens. You can swipe down to bring up the notification bar or swipe up for recent apps. The reason i put it as second best was because I don't really like it ..
Ofcourse there are normal launchers , like nova launcher ..etc. that allows you to swipe down to bring up the notifications but sadly that only works on the home screen.
There are also ROMS like AOKP (For us Carbon rom or something similar) which has a stock feeling but extra buttons in the Power menu. When you hold down the power menu , under the normal "Power off, restart, screenshot, airplane" you will also find "Back, Home, Recent apps"
I honestly think that PIE Controls is the best app to have out of them all since it works on all ROMs . Though for full features you should buy the Pro version.
P.S: All apps that you are looking for will require ROOT access.
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Thanks for all the info. I tried the Pie Control app by coolace based on your recommendation, but it didn't seem to do anything on my unrooted HOX+. I'll look into the other stuff you talked about.
joakim_one said:
Thanks for all the info. I tried the Pie Control app by coolace based on your recommendation, but it didn't seem to do anything on my unrooted HOX+. I'll look into the other stuff you talked about.
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How didn't it function?
Well here is a good video that will help you install it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBud1hk27Rw
Although to have full features you will require to BUY the pro version and root, the free version on an unrooted version should have some functions that will work like launching apps and other stuff. Try to clarify what you meant
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How didn't it function?
Well here is a good video that will help you install it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBud1hk27Rw
Although to have full features you will require to BUY the pro version and root, the free version on an unrooted version should have some functions that will work like launching apps and other stuff. Try to clarify what you meant
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I installed the app and set it to work on the left, right, and bottom, then configured two short-click apps in level 1. I would then long-press at those edges and nothing happened with pie control: HTC Sense would send me to widget configuration instead.
I just watched your video and he does a slight swipe from the edge, instead of the long-press I was trying. I just installed the app again and tried that on the home screen and within a couple other apps, again no pie controls. If I do it on the home screen, it starts to scroll to the next home screen, as it always did.
There may be something about HTC Sense that it's not giving control to the pie app for gestures, or maybe there's some other switch I have to hit somewhere to actually enable the pie gestures?
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I installed the app and set it to work on the left, right, and bottom, then configured two short-click apps in level 1. I would then long-press at those edges and nothing happened with pie control: HTC Sense would send me to widget configuration instead.
I just watched your video and he does a slight swipe from the edge, instead of the long-press I was trying. I just installed the app again and tried that on the home screen and within a couple other apps, again no pie controls. If I do it on the home screen, it starts to scroll to the next home screen, as it always did.
There may be something about HTC Sense that it's not giving control to the pie app for gestures, or maybe there's some other switch I have to hit somewhere to actually enable the pie gestures?
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Oh yeah I forgot to tell you. Although HOX+ and S3 have the same screen size, for the PIE to activate you just need to increase the activation area width. Just thought of installing Pie again after a while of not using it and just remembered. Now it's working fine
I remember there was a small bug of the activation area width being reset everytime you open the app if I can remember correctly. That or everytime you press on the activation width area. Can't really remember but my point is, while using the app if it suddenly doesnt appear anymore just increase the width again and it will work.
Sorry it took me a while to reply since I couldn't really remember
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Ghand0ur said:
Oh yeah I forgot to tell you. Although HOX+ and S3 have the same screen size, for the PIE to activate you just need to increase the activation area width. Just thought of installing Pie again after a while of not using it and just remembered. Now it's working fine
I remember there was a small bug of the activation area width being reset everytime you open the app if I can remember correctly. That or everytime you press on the activation width area. Can't really remember but my point is, while using the app if it suddenly doesnt appear anymore just increase the width again and it will work.
Sorry it took me a while to reply since I couldn't really remember
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Thanks, now it shows up. I'll mess around with it and let you know what I think.
I experienced the Mate 20 full screen gestures recently, which is really good to use, I think I should always use it. If you still don't know how to use full screen gestures, please see the instructions below for a quick experience.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Back：Swipe in from the left or right side of the screen
Home：Slide up from the bottom of the screen
Recent tasks：Slide up and pause from the bottom of the screen
The actual operation interface is like this:
Small screen mode
The full screen looks really cool, but sometimes it is inconvenient to operate the big screen phone with one hand. At this time, we can turn on the small screen mode to solve this problem. How to use the small screen mode, please see the instructions below.
We only need to slide in from the bottom left or bottom right corner to open the small screen mode, if you want to exit the small screen mode, click anywhere in the offscreen area.
This is the introduction of Mate 20 full screen gestures. Welcome to share your experience with me.
[email protected] said:
I experienced the Mate 20 full screen gestures recently, which is really good to use, I think I should always use it. If you still don't know how to use full screen gestures, please see the instructions below for a quick experience.
Back：Swipe in from the left or right side of the screen
Home：Slide up from the bottom of the screen
Recent tasks：Slide up and pause from the bottom of the screen
The actual operation interface is like this:
Small screen mode
The full screen looks really cool, but sometimes it is inconvenient to operate the big screen phone with one hand. At this time, we can turn on the small screen mode to solve this problem. How to use the small screen mode, please see the instructions below.
We only need to slide in from the bottom left or bottom right corner to open the small screen mode, if you want to exit the small screen mode, click anywhere in the offscreen area.
This is the introduction of Mate 20 full screen gestures. Welcome to share your experience with me.
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nice!
In my experience for recent apps it works fastest if you swipe up and instead of holding you just swipe back down again a little bit. This opens the recent apps tab almost immediately and multitasking feels much smoother
AndiThebassman said:
In my experience for recent apps it works fastest if you swipe up and instead of holding you just swipe back down again a little bit. This opens the recent apps tab almost immediately and multitasking feels much smoother
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Just tried this, works really well! Great tip, thanks.
Gestures with 3rd party launchers are iffy. Swiping up on Nova brings up recent apps before going home.
Yes with nova it's annoying. Try the ms launcher... The same issue but recent apps are only visible very short and then switches instant to the home screen... So better than nova
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I'm currently using action launcher with the xda gestures. When setting up the gestures, there's an option to hide the navigation bar so it looks clean. The animations aren't as slick as the factory gestures but it works very well with a launcher and is quick.
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In my experience for recent apps it works fastest if you swipe up and instead of holding you just swipe back down again a little bit. This opens the recent apps tab almost immediately and multitasking feels much smoother
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Great,thanks for your sharing.
Too bad there is no switch between the 2 most recent apps and launching of Google Assistant gestures that's why I'll nvr use gestures. OP6 at least offered a gesture for switching and launching Assistant
raspdeep said:
Too bad there is no switch between the 2 most recent apps and launching of Google Assistant gestures that's why I'll nvr use gestures. OP6 at least offered a gesture for switching and launching Assistant
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You can activate the Google Assistant gesture through geuture settings.
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In my experience for recent apps it works fastest if you swipe up and instead of holding you just swipe back down again a little bit. This opens the recent apps tab almost immediately and multitasking feels much smoother
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Thanks this helped me a lot, I only got the phone yesterday and still trying to get used to the gestures, now we just need one to switch to the last app quickly!
wellsey said:
I'm currently using action launcher with the xda gestures. When setting up the gestures, there's an option to hide the navigation bar so it looks clean. The animations aren't as slick as the factory gestures but it works very well with a launcher and is quick.
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Where to get that version of launcher?
You can use the Fluid Navigation Gestures app (in beta at the moment) with the 3rd party launchers
Is it normal that when you're on the home screen, you can't access the recent apps with gesture ?
If I want to access to that screen from home, I need to open an application first, and then to make the gesture to open the multi-tasking view... It's really annoying !
Very good, thank you for sharing
[email protected] said:
I experienced the Mate 20 full screen gestures recently, which is really good to use, I think I should always use it. If you still don't know how to use full screen gestures, please see the instructions below for a quick experience.
Back：Swipe in from the left or right side of the screen
Home：Slide up from the bottom of the screen
Recent tasks：Slide up and pause from the bottom of the screen
The actual operation interface is like this:
Small screen mode
The full screen looks really cool, but sometimes it is inconvenient to operate the big screen phone with one hand. At this time, we can turn on the small screen mode to solve this problem. How to use the small screen mode, please see the instructions below.
We only need to slide in from the bottom left or bottom right corner to open the small screen mode, if you want to exit the small screen mode, click anywhere in the offscreen area.
This is the introduction of Mate 20 full screen gestures. Welcome to share your experience with me.
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Thanks for sharing
Is there any way to change what gesture does what ?
I deactivated the Google Assistant one, and I'd love to be able to put the "back" gesture in its place instead of swiping from the sides of the screen, which conflicts with a lot of apps that have side menus that you can bring up with this gesture.
For example with Discord or Gmail, trying to pull the side menu will often send me back to the home screen because it was detected as the "back" gesture. And as the phone is so tall, I dont really want to have to reach all the way at the top left corner just to click on a button when I can just swipe.
I still prefer this navigation mode over buttons, it looks much cleaner imo. But sometimes this "back" gesture just isnt convenient, despite being more intuitive than swipping from the bottom imo.
At least if we could edit the portion of the screen that was registering it, it would be cool.
This annoyed me to no end. Thanks to the app fluid gesture navigation it's all fixed AND for some reason fluid makes the return home transition smooth when using the stock launcher. It was so jittery before .
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Is it normal that when you're on the home screen, you can't access the recent apps with gesture ?
If I want to access to that screen from home, I need to open an application first, and then to make the gesture to open the multi-tasking view... It's really annoying !
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You still can but it seems to take longer than with an app.
I recommend you do what was advised in first page. It works especialy well when trying to access multitask from the home screen : swipe up from tje bottom of the screen, then once your finger is between half and 3/4 of the way up, slide it back down to 1/2. It should immediately trigger multitask.
MDSLHC27 said:
Gestures with 3rd party launchers are iffy. Swiping up on Nova brings up recent apps before going home.
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This is literally why I stopped using gestures
Any way to remove or hide or skin or otherwise change the look and color of the Nav Bar buttons? Im using Nova and don't see an option and don't see an option in the OS settings.
Appreciate any help.
JMak00 said:
Any way to remove or hide or skin or otherwise change the look and color of the Nav Bar buttons? Im using Nova and don't see an option and don't see an option in the OS settings.
Appreciate any help.
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Probably only with root and then a Substratum theme, IF that even works on A12
Nimueh said:
Probably only with root and then a Substratum theme, IF that even works on A12
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JMak00 said:
Any way to remove or hide or skin or otherwise change the look and color of the Nav Bar buttons? Im using Nova and don't see an option and don't see an option in the OS settings.
Appreciate any help.
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Settings>Accessibility>System Controls>System Navigation gives you the choice of Gesture Navigation or 3-Button Navigation. I'm using Nova also
docfreed said:
Settings>Accessibility>System Controls>System Navigation gives you the choice of Gesture Navigation or 3-Button Navigation. I'm using Nova also
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But that doesn't change the "look and color of the Nav Bar buttons" at all and that's what he wanted
Nimueh said:
But that doesn't change the "look and color of the Nav Bar buttons" at all and that's what he wanted
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From his post "Any way to remove or hide or....."
Google, no one wants the back button on the left! after 6 years, let's go ahead and add the option to switch it already!
buschris said:
Google, no one wants the back button on the left! after 6 years, let's go ahead and add the option to switch it already!
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I guess my name is "no one" then ... I'm perfectly happy with the button layout the way it is
But I do get it if someone wants it reversed ... I for one would love the option to assign my navbar buttons with different actions, for example longpress Home for screenshot like on my other devices
Nimueh said:
I guess my name is "no one" then ... I'm perfectly happy with the button layout the way it is
But I do get it if someone wants it reversed ... I for one would love the option to assign my navbar buttons with different actions, for example longpress Home for screenshot like on my other devices
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It makes no sense. Most people are right-handed, so why put the button that gets used more often (Back) in a less accessible position than the one that hardly ever gets used (Recent apps)? Maybe take a hint from Samsung (the most popular Android phone maker) and keep the Back button on the right.
gavingt said:
It makes no sense. Most people are right-handed, so why put the button that gets used more often (Back) in a less accessible position than the one that hardly ever gets used (Recent apps)? Maybe take a hint from Samsung (the most popular Android phone maker) and keep the Back button on the right.
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Personal preference. I'm totally with you on giving users the option, but I personally use the recents button more often and always hated the placement on Samsung phones.
I wish I could use FNG with A12 gestures, but I'm still stuck having the useless bottom bar...
Velcorn said:
Personal preference. I'm totally with you on giving users the option, but I personally use the recents button more often and always hated the placement on Samsung phones.
I wish I could use FNG with A12 gestures, but I'm still stuck having the useless bottom bar...
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Samsung is all tricked out...
Galaxy Store, Good lock family of apps tops off the nav bar mods.
gavingt said:
It makes no sense. Most people are right-handed, so why put the button that gets used more often (Back) in a less accessible position than the one that hardly ever gets used (Recent apps)? Maybe take a hint from Samsung (the most popular Android phone maker) and keep the Back button on the right.
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"the one that hardly gets used" - huh? I use the Recents button all the time before turning off the screen. I don't believe in having apps linger there that I only use once a week or even less often, so my Recents get cleared all the time. Plus while I am righthanded I hold my phone with the left hand and navigate/tap with my right ... I've never been someone to use a phone with only 1 hand.
And like Velcorn said - personal preference. Users should have the option to set it up the way they like it best, not have Google (or other OEMs) dictate what they have to like.
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"the one that hardly gets used" - huh? I use the Recents button all the time before turning off the screen. I don't believe in having apps linger there that I only use once a week or even less often, so my Recents get cleared all the time. Plus while I am righthanded I hold my phone with the left hand and navigate/tap with my right ... I've never been someone to use a phone with only 1 hand.
And like Velcorn said - personal preference. Users should have the option to set it up the way they like it best, not have Google (or other OEMs) dictate what they have to like.
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I completely agree that it should be an option. But if they're not going to provide an option, putting it on the right makes more sense.
Also, you know clearing your recents gives you no performance improvement, right? Android could have completely killed an app weeks ago and its most recent snapshot could still show up there.
Gesture Navigation for the WIN!!!!!
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Also, you know clearing your recents gives you no performance improvement, right?
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I don't care, I don't want the clutter in my recents. It's not so much about performance but about tidyness
I am right handed and use my P6 with my left hand. I use a wallet case on my devices with my index finger wedged behind the internal case. The thumb wins.
I always clear my recent, I don't care if you call it OCD or not.
gavingt said:
It makes no sense. Most people are right-handed, so why put the button that gets used more often (Back) in a less accessible position than the one that hardly ever gets used (Recent apps)? Maybe take a hint from Samsung (the most popular Android phone maker) and keep the Back button on the right.
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My LG phones let me not just switch their order but whether they were outlines or filled in, too.
gavingt said:
It makes no sense. Most people are right-handed, so why put the button that gets used more often (Back) in a less accessible position than the one that hardly ever gets used (Recent apps)? Maybe take a hint from Samsung (the most popular Android phone maker) and keep the Back button on the right.
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especially since third parties have made it an option for over 7 years
sic0048 said:
Gesture Navigation for the WIN!!!!!
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again... no righty has a thumb that long that you can reach the left side of the screen
Velcorn said:
Personal preference. I'm totally with you on giving users the option, but I personally use the recents button more often and always hated the placement on Samsung phones.
I wish I could use FNG with A12 gestures, but I'm still stuck having the useless bottom bar...
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I use FNG and have for a while now. Of course it takes root to get rid of the navbar.