So I sent a pretty nasty message to Samsung today announcing my displeasure with this whole KNOX issue and not receiving updates because of our devices being "modified" I did so because Samsung preached Open Source, as does Google and for them to block OTA updates is about as much bull as if Microsoft started to block your Windows updates because you install some aftermarket software etc. We all paid for a product and we are all entitled to updates I feel regardless of weather or not we have rooted our devices or not. If I get any sort of response at all I will post. I doubt I will but it felt good to vent to them at Samsung. You all should do the same. If they get enough complaints then maybe they will do something about it.
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I second this.
I agree with this but give it time, a work around will come up.
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I agree with this but give it time, a work around will come up.
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it already has... downloading mi5 to flash back to get update (knox tripped)
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it already has... downloading mi5 to flash back to get update (knox tripped)
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My point to them is we should not have to go through a workaround.
We should not have to Odin back two updates, update to the second, wait for MJ4, and that's if you even get the update cause I know they stopped them for a while for some. On top of that you lose everything you have done which is crap. Xposed, Viper Audio Mod etc. All that stuff takes time to do and someone shouldn't have to start from scratch because Samsung f***ed up in the first place and didn't get their software right causing audio and S pen issues. Should we have to go through this headache because of their mistake? I think not.
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My point to them is we should not have to go through a workaround.
We should not have to Odin back two updates, update to the second, wait for MJ4, and that's if you even get the update cause I know they stopped them for a while for some. On top of that you lose everything you have done which is crap. Xposed, Viper Audio Mod etc. All that stuff takes time to do and someone shouldn't have to start from scratch because Samsung f***ed up in the first place and didn't get their software right causing audio and S pen issues. Should we have to go through this headache because of their mistake? I think not.
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i totally agree but in do time..
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i totally agree but in do time..
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Feel free to sign up and chime in. Maybe someone from Samsung will actually listen if we stir up enough trouble
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http://opensource.samsung.com/commu...pe=forum&threadId=1366&msgId=1366&forumType=8
KNOX was a problem on the SGS4 too, but devs got it handled. Same will happen with Note 3.....so cool yer jets.
Not being able to get updates because you are rooted has been an issue since the beginning of Android time and has nothing to do with knox. If you choose to root then it is warned that you must jump through hoops to get updates, known fact. Android being open source has nothing to do with your freedom to root and modify your device either. It is simply a means to allow any third party to make apps, widgets, theme engines, whatever, unlike a closed source like IOS where all developers have to go through Apple to get rights.
Knox is security, plain and simple. There have been a lot of malicious attacks on Android in the past year and this is an attempt of closing those back doors. Difficulty in rooting and flashing is a side effect not the direct target.
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Not being able to get updates because you are rooted has been an issue since the beginning of Android time and has nothing to do with knox. If you choose to root then it is warned that you must jump through hoops to get updates, known fact. Android being open source has nothing to do with your freedom to root and modify your device either. It is simply a means to allow any third party to make apps, widgets, theme engines, whatever, unlike a closed source like IOS where all developers have to go through Apple to get rights.
Knox is security, plain and simple. There have been a lot of malicious attacks on Android in the past year and this is an attempt of closing those back doors. Difficulty in rooting and flashing is a side effect not the direct target.
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EXACTLY!!! Thank You for posting this! Since you're a mod, maybe some people will actually believe you!!!
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Hey guys, newbie here and I got some questions for y'all.
I am a longtime iPhone user, thinking about switching over to the Vibrant. I'm used to the jailbreaking/unlocking of the iphone...are similar things able to be done to the Vibrant?
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Hey guys, newbie here and I got some questions for y'all.
I am a longtime iPhone user, thinking about switching over to the Vibrant. I'm used to the jailbreaking/unlocking of the iphone...are similar things able to be done to the Vibrant? Can you install hacked apps? Where do you go for the apps? How do you install them?
Please, point me in the right direction of where I need to look. I'm so used to not paying for apps, I'd like to stick with that
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Ok a few things.
Yes, you can root the vibrant and install custom roms.
On the iPhone you can install hacked apps, meaning you don't pay for them, techinically you can do the same on an Android phone by just having the apk file, however this is frowned upon because that is stealing. Why not just pay for the app? Apps are cheap on Android.
If you are a current iPhone user and if you purchase the Vibrant, YOU WILL BE UNHAPPY. I suggest you wait for the iPhone 5 which will be released in June, or wait for the dual core Android phones coming out. Do not get the original Vibrant.
Ps...the Vibrant 4G is going to be released soon. You can also get the Nexus S at best buy.
btw coming to xda and saying you don't pay for apps and you steal them was not a wise idea.
Go back to the iphone, this isn't the place for you.
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Go back to the iphone, this isn't the place for you.
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oh yeah, why's that?
dcpetterson said:
Go back to the iphone, this isn't the place for you.
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Stay classy!
OP:
Yes, you can "jailbreak", for Android it is called root, and in turn you can install custom ROMs, Kernels, and for the Vibrant "modems" (radio's on other phones). As for "free" apps, Android, unlike iOS, has TONS of free apps already. Developers tend to offer a free and paid version, main difference is the free version has ads in it. Developers actually make more money off the ad revenue (typically) than the paid versions. There are still apps that are only paid, or the full version are paid only, and to be very honest trying to get those for free is BS in my opinion, especially given the prices.
This site is FULL of all the info you need to root any Android phone and start loading custom ROMs. It is very addictive, and compared to the iPhone, it is like living in America versus living in China in terms of freedom to do what you want. In China (iPhone) you are limited in your ways, and can do as you please to an extent. Where as in America (Android) you are free to do as you please, but have a great infrastructure to help guide you and aid you in such venturers.
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btw coming to xda and saying you don't pay for apps and you steal them was not a wise idea.
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He said it well, and I'm not gonna flame you, although I really want to, this just isn't right for you.
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I am not on AT&T, I am on T-Mobile. I have had a 3G for the last 2 years, but with the new ios4.3 comes out, it will not have an update for the 3G, they are getting fazed out. So I'm moving away from the iphone for a while, may get a 4 down the road.
I understand cracked apps are illegal, a TMO CSR pointed me to this website, so if cracked apps aren't talked about here fine, I didn't know. I was just going where I was told by Tmobile to get information regarding it. Simple as that.
I have a free 2 year upgrade at TMobile right now, so I'm looking between the Vibrant and the MyTouch 4G. Right now I'm using a Blackberry Bold 9780.
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I am not on AT&T, I am on T-Mobile. I have had a 3G for the last 2 years, but with the new ios4.3 comes out, it will not have an update for the 3G, they are getting fazed out. So I'm moving away from the iphone for a while, may get a 4 down the road.
I understand cracked apps are illegal, a TMO CSR pointed me to this website, so if cracked apps aren't talked about here fine, I didn't know. Please point me towards the website where it is talked about.
I have a free 2 year upgrade at TMobile right now, so I'm looking between the Vibrant and the MyTouch 4G. Right now I'm using a Blackberry Bold 9780.
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Warez is not just frowned upon, but is grounds for banishment on XDA, and actually every single decent Android site. Explaining how to get it, where to get it, or giving it out is a major no no, and asking (especially after being told) is a no no as well.
This isn't iOS where everything costs money, this is Android where you can literally get 95% of apps for free from the market. There is no need to steal, not that there is on iOS (I have an iPad, love it, and have paid for my fair share of apps even though it is jailbroken).
Lastly, if that is your only desire in a phone, then just don't get one. If all you want to do is use your phone to steal, then you don't deserve to have a phone.
dude, relax! I said I didn't know it was against the rules here. I WAS DOING WHAT THE TMOBILE REP TOLD ME TO DO! I will edit my original post so you don't get butt hurt, it's a simple f'in mistake. Get your panties out of a bunch!
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dude, relax! I said I didn't know it was against the rules here. I WAS DOING WHAT THE TMOBILE REP TOLD ME TO DO! I will edit my original post so you don't get butt hurt, it's a simple f'in mistake. Get your panties out of a bunch!
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You were told multiple times it is a no no, and in turn decided to ask again. At that point it isn't a question of not a knowing, it is clearly a matter of not caring.
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You were told multiple times it is a no no, and in turn decided to ask again. At that point it isn't a question of not a knowing, it is clearly a matter of not caring.
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hey slick, the first reply to this came edited in afterwards...the original post said simply "OK" and then he came back and edited it with his information. Pay attention. If I didn't care, I wouldn't have removed it! I understand you're perfect and never make mistakes, my apologies!
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Hey guys, newbie here and I got some questions for y'all.
I am a longtime iPhone user, thinking about switching over to the Vibrant. I'm used to the jailbreaking/unlocking of the iphone...are similar things able to be done to the Vibrant? Can you install hacked apps? Where do you go for the apps? How do you install them?
Please, point me in the right direction of where I need to look. I'm so used to not paying for apps, I'd like to stick with that
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Welcome to XDA! I came to the Vibrant from the iPhone 3G and I love it, as one has said you can steal apps but no one here will help you with that, also apps seem to generally cheaper on android than they are on iOS.
Depending on what you are looking for you may be happier where your currently have. Android's market is growing quiet well but I feel that it currently doesn't match the iOS market when it comes to games, so if games are your thing I would stay away (but we do have great emulators!) Many things may have changed in iOS since I used it last back in 3.0 something another.
Now few things I love personally love about android! Google Voice is easily used, Ive been using it for about 2 years now and haven't given out my real number since, its the best! Google maps is amazing, always getting updates haven't used a standalone gps since. You can customize the desktop however you feel please (don't need winterboard and everything, its just a ton easier). Swype is pure amazing, I could never go back to normal texting after getting use to it, super fast! And finally googles voice integration, you can talk and have it type what is said, you can have it search for you or even open your google maps and have it set your navigation!
As I'm sure you've noticed by now the forum has a lot of idiots who have nothing to add to the community except their derogatory remarks, sadly they don't seem to ever go away do they?
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Welcome to XDA! I came to the Vibrant from the iPhone 3G and I love it, as one has said you can steal apps but no one here will help you with that, also apps seem to generally cheaper on android than they are on iOS.
Depending on what you are looking for you may be happier where your currently have. Android's market is growing quiet well but I feel that it currently doesn't match the iOS market when it comes to games, so if games are your thing I would stay away (but we do have great emulators!) Many things may have changed in iOS since I used it last back in 3.0 something another.
Now few things I love personally love about android! Google Voice is easily used, Ive been using it for about 2 years now and haven't given out my real number since, its the best! Google maps is amazing, always getting updates haven't used a standalone gps since. You can customize the desktop however you feel please (don't need winterboard and everything, its just a ton easier). Swype is pure amazing, I could never go back to normal texting after getting use to it, super fast! And finally googles voice integration, you can talk and have it type what is said, you can have it search for you or even open your google maps and have it set your navigation!
As I'm sure you've noticed by now the forum has a lot of idiots who have nothing to add to the community except their derogatory remarks, sadly they don't seem to ever go away do they?
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what exactly is google voice? And how does that enable you to not give out your real number?
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what exactly is google voice? And how does that enable you to not give out your real number?
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Its quicker if I just point you to it, Google Voice
The link has short videos that would explain what it is better than I would.
Back when I got started using it, it was a closed to public but now anyone can sign up for it.
Interesting, never even heard of that before.
Are you using the 2.3 or 2.2 on yours?
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Interesting, never even heard of that before.
Are you using the 2.3 or 2.2 on yours?
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Right now the official 2.2 update that just came out.
Oh is 2.2 the newest?
Officially, yes. Google has released 2.3 out but nothing official for us yet.
so what exactly is "rooting" then and what does it accomplish?
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so what exactly is "rooting" then and what does it accomplish?
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Rooting does what jail breaking did for the iphone. Allows you to do what you normally couldn't. Its also really easy to do, there are a few different things you can use but they all get the same thing done.
When you root you can install new rom's like a 2.3 rom if you wish. There developers who change them how they wish and then share them with the community, you can find them in Vibrant Android Development part of the forums. You can also download new kernels that will allow you to overclock your phone or even underclock if you wish.
In the android market there are some apps that also require you to root your phone to use them. One such app is Titanium Backup, it will back all the apps and stuff you have downloaded so if you install a new rom or lose your phone or something you can easily reinstall everything.
Basically rooting fully opens up your phone, allowing anything.
I've known for some time that the app permissions and data about us being sent to companies via our 'free' apps has always been scandelous. If you don't know about this, there are countless studies by reputable organisations, simply google it.
Like many of us here, I've owned a number of hot Xperia phones, and a few days ago got a new one! But, I updated an app, and when I opened it, I got a shock with how far the permissions are going. The updated app said note: we're going to collect this data about your device. The three pieces that pi**ed me off today are:
1. Phone number
2. Android device ID
3. Info. about all apps on phone
If you're famialiar with why Facebook is one of the greatest marketing successes of our time, then you probably, like me, like to protect your privacy on your phone. I don't think Google is all bad, and there are so many apps which help you in this regard.
Without voiding the warranty of my new phone, I cannot yet get root. I need root to install all sorts of apps which help protect me and my life. Would you tell a stranger on the street your name, age, what's on your phone, phone number, the sites you visit etc? I wouldn't do that. I'm frustrated right now, caught between saving my new warranty and not selling my life for a few stupid 'free' games. I think there is a misstep here. OK the manufacturers let us modify software at our own risk, but they sell the stories of our phones living in an app heaven/bountyland/happy place, but don't do anything to help us protect our privacy.
I agree with you completely. But there are methods to root your phone without unlocking the bootloader (if you still think they will discover, you just have to flash a stock firmware before taking to the store and done)
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Thanks buddy. I've tried all locked-bootloader roots available in this section, flashtool and others.
p.s. for anyone interested in one in this stuff, probably my favourite app (requires root) is LBE Privacy Guard. I used it on other Xperias and there's nothing it can't do!
Wow tinfoil hat alert...
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Wow tinfoil hat alert...
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Wow, you can't post anything on this site without an irrelevant sarcastic answer.
Why can't you just root using this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
Straight forward and quick. Then if you need to send your phone in just flash back to your standard stock firmware??
Thanks very much! I have tried that one though, and posted a report - it fails on my phone. It works for some phones (especially the S and P) but not on all the 2012 Sony phones. I've rooted a few phones before, so I check all the things you have to do and can't find the problem. No one with my phone has posted success with that tool so I doubt it's just me.
I seen in the data usage, some of the free apps have been upload a LOT of data, when they have no reason to e.g. a free live wallpaper. It makes me so angry I just want to nuke the software and not install anything new until root is sorted.
On wed. work gave us all note 2 for our new hand held devices. The thing is the software we use for work is in the makings. like a scanner app. They took out the play store so we can not download anything. Now I have been an android guy since day 1, I cant write code on anything like that but i root and rom with the best of them. i can root this pig and get the things back on here what i need. I have a few guys counting on me to get it done. I just want some feed back as what I should do. Mind you they did send out a disclaimer saying dont do this or download that. can they really catch me?
Probably not, but if they did how bad are the repercussions?
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Some companies have root checkers for their secure network. So can they tell of you're rooted, probably not. However your phone may not connect to your needed services, but you could try a root hider and may get around it
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Also what ya gonna do if they are standing there and demand your phone to check it. Just think through the risks first.
Also yeah it may block you with a root checker and overcoming that is a PITA but doable.
Also be prepared to loose everything if you somehow leak private company information.
This sounds a littler different than companies who just check for root. Your company has gone a step further than that. They are obviously pretty serious.
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Also what ya gonna do if they are standing there and demand your phone to check it. Just think through the risks first.
Also yeah it may block you with a root checker and overcoming that is a PITA but doable.
Also be prepared to loose everything if you somehow leak private company information.
This sounds a littler different than companies who just check for root. Your company has gone a step further than that. They are obviously pretty serious.
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+1 to all of this. Do you like your job? They may consider your intent to unlock THEIR device as theft. Sounds like they are going through a lot of trouble to keep them secure.
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1) Yes they can tell, quite easily.
2) Its not worth the loss of your job.
3) If your the guy in charge of the rooting, you get fired the rest of the sheep get warnings.
4) The reason to lock up a device is for security reasons while your device has work realted information on it. Even a contact list /addressbook is valuable information if it has CEO/CFO/CTO direct phone numbers/emails/IM etc... Let alone emails containing intellectual property or trade secrets.
I have run systems & network security for several companies and while I make exceptions depending on the request and/or person. If you do it and they ever want to terminate you....... they just found a way to fire you *with cause* aka no unemployment any time.
Also: I didn't even mention customized mobiletracker/CarrierIQ and similar background services that announce to me everything your running/useage/software versions etc... the moment your device authenticates with any cellular/wireless network and has connectivity.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/galaxys4.pdf
I woke up this morning and on my phone was a request to update from Verizon, it was an official update.
I haven't seen anything anywhere and I can't believe that I am one of the first on XDA to get this;
I go first!
Lol :laugh:
Lol, spam is spam!
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No offense, but you are a little late to the party. The update has been out for a week now.
See these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2731099 - Thread created on first rollouts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658480 - Discussion thread
The only nice thing is that VZW finally released info on the update.
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No offense, but you are a little late to the party. The update has been out for a week now.
See these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2731099 - Thread created on first rollouts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658480 - Discussion thread
The only nice thing is that VZW finally released info on the update.
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I didn't think I was the first but I haven't been following lately so I didn't see anything. How do you get rid of that constant nag?
What is so exciting about an update that essentially kills write permissions to the SD card and adds more bloat? Not being sarcastic. Just do not see the benefit. S4 seems fine, pre update.
JMO
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What is so exciting about an update that essentially kills write permissions to the SD card and adds more bloat? Not being sarcastic. Just do not see the benefit. S4 seems fine, pre update.
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Didn't add more bloat. Please explain in detail what bloat you are talking about. Most bloat can be turned off. As a matter of fact, one of the best parts of the update is the ability to disable bloat from the app drawer. Also, 4.4 added the framework for Tap to Pay. There are plenty of reasons to update. Kit Kat runs better for me and has features I find very useful.
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Didn't add more bloat. Please explain in detail what bloat you are talking about. Most bloat can be turned off. As a matter of fact, one of the best parts of the update is the ability to disable bloat from the app drawer. Also, 4.4 added the framework for Tap to Pay. There are plenty of reasons to update. Kit Kat runs better for me and has features I find very useful.
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I don't believe you can disable KNOX(crap) without root. There are probably a few other verizon apps that cannot be disabled without root.
Knox? I haven't had a problem with it... It does nothing on my phone. Can you please explain what your problem is with Knox?
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You CAN disable knox....The only thing I wish I could disable that u can't is the stupid security update notifications
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It's not that it's a bad update by any means, 4.4 code has a lot of efficiencies over 4.3, but with as long as the wait was i guess people over hyped it and expected more new end-user features.
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My phone didn't show the update till a few hours ago. At first I was semi excited, then I remembered I still plan on rooting the crap out of the thing..... Verizon and their slow nonsense don't sit well with me sometimes.
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My phone didn't show the update till a few hours ago. At first I was semi excited, then I remembered I still plan on rooting the crap out of the thing..... Verizon and their slow nonsense don't sit well with me sometimes.
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What is so exciting about an update that essentially kills write permissions to the SD card and adds more bloat? Not being sarcastic. Just do not see the benefit. S4 seems fine, pre update.
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Honestly, the SD card "issue" is so overblown its not funny. It doesn't kill write permissions... what it does do, is make it so that apps don't have the right to go willy nilly across you card, to folders it shouldn't have permission to (unless you agree that a random app you download should have the ability to muck with other programs folders).
I made the jump on my phone more than a month ago, and my day to day impacts are NILL. Poweramp still plays all my music just fine, and not one program has had a FC or any other issue. In fact, had i not read articles from other people about the sky falling, i would have never known anyway....
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Honestly, the SD card "issue" is so overblown its not funny.
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It's an unexpected, undocumented change. That you don't run applications which get broken doesn't mean that others aren't hurt by it.
Google is the new Microsoft - they think because they're successful they can do no wrong, but in reality they're clueless about a lot of things. Big enough to not care, and it's the users who get hurt.
Adding *nix permissions to a vfat volume is the right thing to do (short of requiring a modern file system on an SD card), but they're doing it wrong by not phasing it in so apps can accommodate the change.
Well, fill me in. What broke? What app needs to write willy nilly to folders it shouldn't be in that is now no longer working?
For all the moaning people give, i seem to have trouble finding REAL problems...
Divine_Madcat said:
Well, fill me in. What broke? What app needs to write willy nilly to folders it shouldn't be in that is now no longer working?
For all the moaning people give, i seem to have trouble finding REAL problems...
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Subsonic is one example. Here's a detailed explanation with another example.
Your Google-fu is weak.
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Subsonic is one example. Here's a detailed explanation with another example.
Your Google-fu is weak.
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At the end of the thread, its reported fixed, and your other article is from 2012 and has nothing to do with any of this.
Keep trying....
As it is.. apps may write to any folder they own, and may read from every folder. Unless the app is badly written, this change should honestly be a non issue.
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Honestly, the SD card "issue" is so overblown its not funny.
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I agree 100%
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At the end of the thread, its reported fixed, and your other article is from 2012 and has nothing to do with any of this.
Keep trying....
As it is.. apps may write to any folder they own, and may read from every folder. Unless the app is badly written, this change should honestly be a non issue.
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LOL. It was "fixed" by manually changing things in the application, fortunately the app had a setting where the storage path can be configured by the user, many don't. KitKat broke something which worked before because it introduced new restrictions with no prior warning to developers.
The linked article is about this issue, exactly. You didn't read the comments, did you? Or try searching ? The change has been around for a while (back to Honeycomb), but manufacturers worked around it for most devices. Now Google seems to be enforcing it as a requirement with KitKat (or Samsung decided to not do the work-around anymore, we'll see). Maybe it's not causing you problems, but it is causing problems for people.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/08/0...ty-fix-heading-to-xperia-z-series-this-month/
This is to confirm Sony will be pushing out an update to protect their Z series phones first from this Stagefreight problem that involves hacking our Androids with simply MMS. The issue is for us is that we still haven't had Lollipop to our phones for this long. Will this patch update may even take Verizon to do a hell a lot longer before they could even give us our deserved update? Because this is a serious issue that must be addressed.
I've also attached a screenshot from the analysis app for my Z3v, and we're definitely vulnerable...
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we are ****ed
Watch vzw give us a patch without 5.1...
Old news Vzw is a terrible carrier
Not only stagefright but now certifi-gate, and certifi-gate you need to update the whole OS to fix it, so maybe we will finally get Lollipop, but wouldn't hold your breath.
I feel like a duck sitting on a pond surrounded by hunters, being a sitting duck I don't like.
SO LETS SEE HOW VZW PROTECTS THEIR NETWORK NOW!
Will VZW patch or will VZW not?
The quick fix solutions I have found so far in credits to Android Authority is to either download Textra for your messaging app, or disable auto downloading of MMS attachments on your messaging app.
To do that on our phones, go to stock Messaging app, Settings, then scroll down to uncheck Auto MMS Retrieval.
GigaSPX said:
The quick fix solutions I have found so far in credits to Android Authority is to either download Textra for your messaging app, or disable auto downloading of MMS attachments on your messaging app.
To do that on our phones, go to stock Messaging app, Settings, then scroll down to uncheck Auto MMS Retrieval.
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Good tip, did that yesterday to mine and my wife's phone after reading the exploit news.
Be careful, any MMS can have the exploit attached.
Forgot to add, I disabled "Hangouts" too, I think it is affected too.
I was on my phone and went to xda news and saw the pushbullet article. I click on comments and get a redirection with a mess of ads and a android message talking about being infected....wth xda!!!
1linuxfreak said:
Not only stagefright but now certifi-gate, and certifi-gate you need to update the whole OS to fix it, so maybe we will finally get Lollipop, but wouldn't hold your breath.
I feel like a duck sitting on a pond surrounded by hunters, being a sitting duck I don't like.
SO LETS SEE HOW VZW PROTECTS THEIR NETWORK NOW!
Will VZW patch or will VZW not?
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Where are you reading that you need to update the whole OS to patch Certifi-gate? Read this article, particularly the quote from the google spokesperson. http://www.zdnet.com/article/androcertifi-gate-remote-access-security-hole-malware-seen-in-the-wild/
BladeRunner said:
Where are you reading that you need to update the whole OS to patch Certifi-gate? Read this article, particularly the quote from the google spokesperson. http://www.zdnet.com/article/androcertifi-gate-remote-access-security-hole-malware-seen-in-the-wild/
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Took you long enough to try and disprove me.
Do some reading you will find it. It is a problem with a layer in the OS, I had the information before the Black Hat conference.
1linuxfreak said:
Took you long enough to try and disprove me.
Do some reading you will find it. It is a problem with a layer in the OS, I had the information before the Black Hat conference.
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I did read, couldn't find anything to support what you are saying but did find what I linked. If you have something else feel free to share with the rest of us. Kind of a moot point to me really as I am on my Nexus 6, which apparently isn't vulnerable.
That's okay I'm fine with being right don't have to prove it to you.
1linuxfreak said:
That's okay I'm fine with being right don't have to prove it to you.
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you have something against sharing with the community?
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you have something against sharing with the community?
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Your name is "community"?
Pleasure to meet you Community.
If you have Nexus 6 and are not at risk, are you just here to gloat and point fingers at us and laugh? Not very friendly.
1linuxfreak said:
Your name is "community"?
Pleasure to meet you Community.
If you have Nexus 6 and are not at risk, are you just here to gloat and point fingers at us and laugh? Not very friendly.
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Who's pointing fingers and laughing? There is a community of users here that could benefit from the information you have if you'd share it. I only asked where you got your information from as the information I had seemed to imply something different.
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Who's pointing fingers and laughing? There is a community of users here that could benefit from the information you have if you'd share it. I only asked where you got your information from as the information I had seemed to imply something different.
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If you know as much as you imply you would already know what I know and there would be no need for further discussion.
So as far as you are concerned the scare is over. Patches are out everything is fine. At least with your Nexus 6.
I will not post up something that is available on the inter web and you can find yourself. LAZY! Wait you may not get it right so here --
"Android-based mobile devices are under threat from yet another major security vulnerability and this time a simple download patch won’t fix it. Making smartphones and tablets safe against the new 'bug', dubbed Certifi-gate, will reportedly require a rewrite of the underlying software, leaving most mobile devices vulnerable until a new operating system version is released." -- there copy and paste this into your browsers search window or highlight and right click and do "Search Google" for this. Wait here -- https://www.google.com/search?q=certifi-gate+requires+a+OS+rewite&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=certifi-gate+requires+a+OS+rewrite
since you can't do it yourself.
Please go away now troll.
1linuxfreak said:
If you know as much as you imply you would already know what I know and there would be no need for further discussion.
So as far as you are concerned the scare is over. Patches are out everything is fine. At least with your Nexus 6.
I will not post up something that is available on the inter web and you can find yourself. LAZY! Wait you may not get it right so here --
"Android-based mobile devices are under threat from yet another major security vulnerability and this time a simple download patch won’t fix it. Making smartphones and tablets safe against the new 'bug', dubbed Certifi-gate, will reportedly require a rewrite of the underlying software, leaving most mobile devices vulnerable until a new operating system version is released." -- there copy and paste this into your browsers search window or highlight and right click and do "Search Google" for this. Wait here -- https://www.google.com/search?q=certifi-gate+requires+a+OS+rewite&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=certifi-gate+requires+a+OS+rewrite
since you can't do it yourself.
Please go away now troll.
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wow, I really feel that was completely uncalled for.
BladeRunner said:
wow, I really feel that was completely uncalled for.
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Really bro and what you did to me was kosher? Alrighty then!
Should have left it alone, I all but begged you to drop it.
So now I am wrong for sharing, really?
1linuxfreak said:
Really bro and what you did to me was kosher? Alrighty then!
Should have left it alone, I all but begged you to drop it.
So now I am wrong for sharing, really?
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WHT, exactly, did I "do to you"? Wrong for sharing? Absolutely not. It's what I wanted from the beginning. Wrong for personally attacking by calling me lazy and a troll. Absolutely, I am neither, thank you very much.
This thread was on its way down the list but I just had to wake it up......