Now that the Nexus 5 is officially announced and GPE devices should probably see the update soon, what is the chance that we will see 4.4 stock for ME7 users? I know that stock 4.3 won't work with safestrap, but does this mean that 4.4 stock won't? It might be to early to ask this question since I do not think anyone has been able to look at 4.4 source code yet.
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Now that the Nexus 5 is officially announced and GPE devices should probably see the update soon, what is the chance that we will see 4.4 stock for ME7 users? I know that stock 4.3 won't work with safestrap, but does this mean that 4.4 stock won't? It might be to early to ask this question since I do not think anyone has been able to look at 4.4 source code yet.
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This belongs in Q&A, but I'll answer.
No, 4.4 AOSP or GE will not work for SafeStrap until a workaround is found to allow non-TouchWiz Kernels. 4.4 TouchWiz would likely work when released, though.
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This belongs in Q&A, but I'll answer.
No, 4.4 AOSP or GE will not work for SafeStrap until a workaround is found to allow non-TouchWiz Kernels. 4.4 TouchWiz would likely work when released, though.
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I came from a Droid 3 which in order to root you had to use SafeStrap. We did have an unofficial CM port for the device, but we had safestrap which would have stopped any other kernal but Motorola's from being installed. Is the difference here is that the Droid 3 has Kexec? I thought Kexec was built into safestrap, or am I wrong? Is there the possibility for Kexec with ME7 GS4 or no?
porky101 said:
I came from a Droid 3 which in order to root you had to use SafeStrap. We did have an unofficial CM port for the device, but we had safestrap which would have stopped any other kernal but Motorola's from being installed. Is the difference here is that the Droid 3 has Kexec? I thought Kexec was built into safestrap, or am I wrong? Is there the possibility for Kexec with ME7 GS4 or no?
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Kexec support is being worked on but is not currently available.
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Kexec support is being worked on but is not currently available.
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Sweet! Can't wait!
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I'm running an i545 S4, rooted, hotspot tether, 4.3, MJ7. I ultimately want to be running MK2 4.4 kit kat, rooted, with wifi hotspot. What if anything can I do at this time to get my phone best setup to be ready to take advantage of new releases and who would be the most likely builders. I been read about some stuff cyanogenmod is doing and I like the Toro eclipse rom stuff (inverted) as well. Should I focus on trying to get MK2 build first?
Thanks for your help in advance cuz you guys always come thru!
Michael S.
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I'm running an i545 S4, rooted, hotspot tether, 4.3, MJ7. I ultimately want to be running MK2 4.4 kit kat, rooted, with wifi hotspot. What if anything can I do at this time to get my phone best setup to be ready to take advantage of new releases and who would be the most likely builders. I been read about some stuff cyanogenmod is doing and I like the Toro eclipse rom stuff (inverted) as well. Should I focus on trying to get MK2 build first?
Thanks for your help in advance cuz you guys always come thru!
Michael S.
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There is really no telling man at this point. A lot of people are already running CM 4.4 Kitkat but for that you must be on MDK. Your best bet would be for Samsung to release a 4.4 TW build at some point and wait for someone to post build.
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There is really no telling man at this point. A lot of people are already running CM 4.4 Kitkat but for that you must be on MDK. Your best bet would be for Samsung to release a 4.4 TW build at some point and wait for someone to post build.
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What's MDK bro? Is that an older version thats easier to hack
mshawn3 said:
What's MDK bro? Is that an older version thats easier to hack
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Is it the first version S4 shipped with and at this point there is no way to downgrade to it.
This should be in Q&A
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mshawn3 said:
What's MDK bro? Is that an older version thats easier to hack
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Yeah, to add to what the other poster said, it's the first version that the S4 came out with, and it was easy to hack by using something called Loki, which bypasses the bootloader and lets you change your kernel and run AOSP ROMs.
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What's MDK bro? Is that an older version thats easier to hack
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MK2 isn't 4.4....
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
decaturbob said:
MK2 isn't 4.4....
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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KitKat has not yet been released for the S4. MK2 is just the latest verizon build for the S4. The phone is on 4.3
Questions and Help issues go in Q&A and Help section
Development sections are for developers to post work
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FNSM
I apologize for posting in the wrong place
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This should be in Q&A
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Thanks for the info and moving it to the appropriate thread for me.
What are good roms that work with safestrap and MK2 so far all that works is Hyperdrive but im not really a fan of it
GalaxySubie said:
What are good roms that work with safestrap and MK2 so far all that works is Hyperdrive but im not really a fan of it
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Search, search....and search. There is a thread asking which roms are available for SS that I'm sure is no more than 2 pages away. Your options are limited, and IMHO it doesn't get better than hyperdrive at the moment. The only others are backups you restore.
I have been searching and havnt come up with much im trying to see whats closest to CM11 or AOSP 4.4
GalaxySubie said:
I have been searching and havnt come up with much im trying to see whats closest to CM11 or AOSP 4.4
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Nothing will be close, as only touchwiz roms are safestrap compatible. No aosp.
gnubian said:
Nothing will be close, as only touchwiz roms are safestrap compatible. No aosp.
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That is why I still have my Nexus 4 on CM11i will be so happy when the bootloader is unlocked ill never update my phone
GalaxySubie said:
That is why I still have my Nexus 4 on CM11i will be so happy when the bootloader is unlocked ill never update my phone
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Hopefully the s4 will be unlocked (again) soon. Some promising work being done by surge and jeboo.
Look for omega rom in verizon s4 general and foxhound in verizon s4 development (both backups). Only other 2 options I have seen. I think there is a deodexed stock rom too somewhere.
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I have been searching and havnt come up with much im trying to see whats closest to CM11 or AOSP 4.4
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you need to start here....
ttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
Those on MK2 With safe strap and want to get rid of Touch Wiz ( which I do -.-) Get the Illusion ROM for your Galaxy S4 (Verizon). That's all. Except the only bug/s is WiFi doesn't even if you try flashing the MK2 Module's. And those On AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, NET10... Etc using there Verizon Galaxy S4 will not get Data to work. I have Straight talk and tried everything to get Data to work. I've flashed all Carrier Roms (the AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, and U.S. Cellular) together and see if that would help. Nope. But Messaging (just SMS) works and so does calls and Voice Mail (xD)
And if someone could extract this and try making another AOSP ROM that works with MK2 (or SafeStrap) and make CM11/10 to work, that would be excellent!
Credit for the ROM goes to the Developer. I am not endorsed with the development/developer nor do I hold responsible for your phone being a toaster
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316312
How is a 4.2 ROM compatible with MK2, and how is it compatible with Safestrap? Not to mention the thread hasn't been updated since July...
RemnantKing2 said:
How is a 4.2 ROM compatible with MK2, and how is it compatible with Safestrap? Not to mention the thread hasn't been updated since July...
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Crazy thing is it actually worked
elias98902 said:
Those on MK2 With safe strap and want to get rid of Touch Wiz ( which I do -.-) Get the Illusion ROM for your Galaxy S4 (Verizon). That's all. Except the only bug/s is WiFi doesn't even if you try flashing the MK2 Module's. And those On AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, nett... Etc using there Verizon Galaxy S4 will not get Data to work. I have Straight talk and tried everything to get Data to work. I've flashed all Carrier Roms (the AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, and U.S. Cellular) together and see if that would help. Nope. But Messaging (just SMS) works and so does calls and Voice Mail (xD)
And if someone could extract this and try making another AOSP ROM that works with MK2 (or SafeStrap) and make CM11/10 to work, that would be excellent!
Credit for the ROM goes to the Developer. I am not endorsed with the development/developer nor do I hold responsible for your phone being a toaster
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316312
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Its 4.2...mk2 is 4.3...is it possible to flash 4.2 modules on latest safestrap?...this is pretty cool to see even partially working aosp for SS users...might make a point of getting hashcodes attention on this...he may be able to fix WiFi and such or figure out what's allowing it to work and implement it in other ROMs...nice find
I was bored, so I started installing random ROMs and Walla... A AOSP ROM working!
And I Dont know... Crazy things happen in Life O.O
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Possibly
If they could break down this rom and figure out how it works with safestrap we could possibly get all asop roms working:laugh::good:
And if I had a debit card I'd give all my money to the person that breaks it down
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@Hashcode
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MajorLeagueROM said:
If they could break down this rom and figure out how it works with safestrap we could possibly get all asop roms working:laugh::good:
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If you guys are on 4.2.2, it would make since if it was a gpe rom, as gpe was somehow compatible with 4.2.2 safestrap. If I remember correctly, someone said that the differences between the kernels was negligible and could boot with the tw kernel.
I would say its safe to assume that its actual AOSP seeing that it uses the CM kernel source (or at links to it on the OP), however, there are no accounts in the thread of the rom cook saying that it is AOSP, only other posters.
Haven't tried to download it yet, but I'm going to convince myself that you guys are just pulling a sick April fools prank.
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If you guys are on 4.2.2, it would make since if it was a gpe rom, as gpe was somehow compatible with 4.2.2 safestrap. If I remember correctly, someone said that the differences between the kernels was negligible and could boot with the tw kernel.
I would say its safe to assume that its actual AOSP seeing that it uses the CM kernel source (or at links to it on the OP), however, there are no accounts in the thread of the rom cook saying that it is AOSP, only other posters.
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Well so far it's AOSP ROM. It has pure android, the weight of the zip is so light and if. And yes, A Dev did say it wasn't compatible with any AOSP ROM's. But I found a ROM that works! I'll post some screen shots of the AOSP ROM. And if it says AT&T its because I have a Straight Talk Sim Card in it.
So far people are eager with this. If we can get more people's attention we can probably get Hashcode to see what's making this ROM work on AOSP
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Well so far it's AOSP ROM. It has pure android, the weight of the zip is so light and if. And yes, A Dev did say it wasn't compatible with any AOSP ROM's. But I found a ROM that works! I'll post some screen shots of the AOSP ROM. And if it says AT&T its because I have a Straight Talk Sim Card in it.
So far people are eager with this. If we can get more people's attention we can probably get Hashcode to see what's making this ROM work on AOSP
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What BL version do you have?
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What BL version do you have?
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If BL stands for Bootloader than I have I have MK2 android 4.3
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elias98902 said:
If BL stands for Bootloader than I have I have MK2 android 4.3
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The android build is not necessarily the same as the BL just so you know.
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The android build is not necessarily the same as the BL just so you know.
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So where would I find the bootloader?
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elias98902 said:
So where would I find the bootloader?
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I believe it can be seen in recovery (actual recovery; not safestrap)
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I believe it can be seen in recovery (actual recovery; not safestrap)
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He he. Funny story... Um.... I tried flashing a CWM Recovery didn't work and it leads me to the Odin Flash screen. All I have is Safestrap 3.71
Is there another possible way?
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elias98902 said:
He he. Funny story... Um.... I tried flashing a CWM Recovery didn't work and it leads me to the Odin Flash screen. All I have is Safestrap 3.71
Is there another possible way?
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I believe theres an app that does it.
To anyone wanting to do this, I did it and its not booting into the system. Idk if theres a very special case or what. In recovery it is saying I have the kot49h kernel. Until I boot, Im still assuming its an april fools prank
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I believe theres in app that does it.
To anyone wanting to do this, I did it and its not booting into the system. Idk if theres a very special case or what.
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Well that happened to me as well. It wouldn't boot up to the system so I booted up to the actual Odin Flash and it said Volume Up=Continue and Volume Down=Cancel(Restart) and then I did the Volume down and it got into the system. Well I hope that helps!
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Well that happened to me as well. It wouldn't boot up to the system so I booted up to the actual Odin Flash and it said Volume Up=Continue and Volume Down=Cancel(Restart) and then I did the Volume down and it got into the system. Well I hope that helps!
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This didn't work. It boot loops and goes into recovery.
Edit: ****ed up and erase all my stuff in safestrap, ill mess with it later
Screenshots?
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I'm on MDK and I've never tried a non-touchwiz ROM. I want to now. I'd appreciate if you guys could tell me what the most popular / mainstream / well developed AOSP ROM is for the Verizon s4. I think I'd like to start my AOSP journey there.
Also, are the current crop of AOSP ROM fully functional? Or are there still some features of the S4 that aren't supported?
Thanks in advance.
-J
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I'm on MDK and I've never tried a non-touchwiz ROM. I want to now. I'd appreciate if you guys could tell me what the most popular / mainstream / well developed AOSP ROM is for the Verizon s4. I think I'd like to start my AOSP journey there.
Also, are the current crop of AOSP ROM fully functional? Or are there still some features of the S4 that aren't supported?
Thanks in advance.
-J
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Think I answered you in another thread about this topic but.. Try Mahdi, C ROM , Liquid Smooth, AICP ... They've all treated me well. They'll all run differently though for people so you'll just have to flash away and report back in their threads. Also I highly recommend using KToonsez AOSP-Kit Kat kernel with those. It's been nothing but stable for me.
Good luck!
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You really need to them yourself...
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Think I answered you in another thread about this topic but.. Try Mahdi, C ROM , Liquid Smooth, AICP ... They've all treated me well. They'll all run differently though for people so you'll just have to flash away and report back in their threads. Also I highly recommend using KToonsez AOSP-Kit Kat kernel with those. It's been nothing but stable for me.
Good luck!
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I thought AICP couldn't be used with Safestrap? I'm about to downgrade from 4.4.2 so I can root my phone but from everything I've seen you have to use safestrap to do so... which would effectively destroy being able to use AICP.
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I thought AICP couldn't be used with Safestrap? I'm about to downgrade from 4.4.2 so I can root my phone but from everything I've seen you have to use safestrap to do so... which would effectively destroy being able to use AICP.
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safestrap enabled phones can only use tw stock kernel based roms which exclude CM, ASOP and all the rest
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I thought AICP couldn't be used with Safestrap? I'm about to downgrade from 4.4.2 so I can root my phone but from everything I've seen you have to use safestrap to do so... which would effectively destroy being able to use AICP.
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Well you're correct but I was answering the OP who stated he was on an MDK S4.. which in turn means he's not on SafeStrap.
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Well you're correct but I was answering the OP who stated he was on an MDK S4.. which in turn means he's not on SafeStrap.
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Gotcha.. I'm new to rooting so I'm still trying to learn everything I can sorry about that. Every Verizon S4 I've seen people have used Safestrap on the SCH-I545. So I'm assuming that MDK is merely a different build correct?
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Gotcha.. I'm new to rooting so I'm still trying to learn everything I can sorry about that. Every Verizon S4 I've seen people have used Safestrap on the SCH-I545. So I'm assuming that MDK is merely a different build correct?
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Hey no problem!
MDK is the build that the Verizon S4 first shipped with and it allowed for a bootloader exploit called Loki which let's us run custom recoveries... Thus allowing AOSP ROMs like the ones I mentioned.
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Hey no problem!
MDK is the build that the Verizon S4 first shipped with and it allowed for a bootloader exploit called Loki which let's us run custom recoveries... Thus allowing AOSP ROMs like the ones I mentioned.
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Awesome thanks! Sadly the person I got my phone from worked at Verizon and had religiously updated the phone.....so I got the OTA 4.4.2 FNC5 build from day 1.... so no to partial downgrade and Root and try out hyperdrive 15 :good:
0reo said:
I'm on MDK and I've never tried a non-touchwiz ROM. I want to now. I'd appreciate if you guys could tell me what the most popular / mainstream / well developed AOSP ROM is for the Verizon s4. I think I'd like to start my AOSP journey there.
Also, are the current crop of AOSP ROM fully functional? Or are there still some features of the S4 that aren't supported?
Thanks in advance.
-J
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Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297370
The OP's will describe whether it's AOSP or TW
Alright, so I have a Verizon Galaxy S4, with 4.4.2 and an NC5 bootloader, I have it safestrapped, running Hypedrive 20. I was all excited when I saw that there was a Lollipop ROM released, because I have been anxious to try it. I downloaded everything in the tutorial, only to see Does not work with safestrap! That is when I started searching frantically how to get CWM or TWRP running on my device, finding disappointment after disappointment
So, my question is, has there been any way found to downgrade the NC5 bootloader to MDK? I see some posts/articles on downgrading to MK2, but would that allow me to get a CWM/TWRP up and running? Or has there been any way found to unlock the bootloader for the NC5?
If all else fails, maybe somebody could chime in about making a safestrapable Lollipop rom?
Thanks for any and all help, I'm so anxious for Lollipop its ridiculous!
We are stuck using Safestrap. There is no way to go from nc5 to mdk. There are some hybrids roms and a few gpe roms that are Safestrap compatible. But that's it.
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Alright, so I have a Verizon Galaxy S4, with 4.4.2 and an NC5 bootloader, I have it safestrapped, running Hypedrive 20. I was all excited when I saw that there was a Lollipop ROM released, because I have been anxious to try it. I downloaded everything in the tutorial, only to see Does not work with safestrap! That is when I started searching frantically how to get CWM or TWRP running on my device, finding disappointment after disappointment
So, my question is, has there been any way found to downgrade the NC5 bootloader to MDK? I see some posts/articles on downgrading to MK2, but would that allow me to get a CWM/TWRP up and running? Or has there been any way found to unlock the bootloader for the NC5?
If all else fails, maybe somebody could chime in about making a safestrapable Lollipop rom?
Thanks for any and all help, I'm so anxious for Lollipop its ridiculous!
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As of right now, there is absolutely no way to downgrade to MDK. Safestrap, and its limitations, is your only option. Believe me, if there was a way to Downgrade, you would, have found very easily.
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Now I'm thoroughly disappointed.
I guess I'll have to wait for a lollipop safestrap rom, which will likely be months away...
Would it be hard to port the Lollipop AOSP rom to a safestrap rom?
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N4styN1ghtm4r3 said:
Now I'm thoroughly disappointed.
I guess I'll have to wait for a lollipop safestrap rom, which will likely be months away...
Would it be hard to port the Lollipop AOSP rom to a safestrap rom?
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It would probably be difficult.
First of all, at this point, we don't even know if aosp 5.0 could run with safestrap with stock kernel. Andriod 4.4 and 4.2 could, but 4.3 couldn't. And also, a lot of the devs for the s4 have already left so there are fewer people to work on any potential rom. Its pretty depressing, no lie.
N4styN1ghtm4r3 said:
Now I'm thoroughly disappointed.
I guess I'll have to wait for a lollipop safestrap rom, which will likely be months away...
Would it be hard to port the Lollipop AOSP rom to a safestrap rom?
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The problem is we can only flash TW based roms through Safestrap. As I had mentioned before there are a couple of Google Play Edition roms that will flash bit are a bit buggy. The closest we'll probably come are hybrid roms that have some lollipop features to go with TW
Well, I guess we'll have to wait for the official upgrade, then go from there.
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