I remember when i had a moto. razr, the bootloader was locked (unless you had a developer edition, or you were simply lucky). When flashing roms, we would use safestrap (by Hashcode), roms would have minor bugs. Safestrap is based off of TWRP recovery, which is for un-locked and locked bootloaders. Hashcode has ported it to other phones, such as the galaxy s4, note 3, various kindles.
Anyway is there any possibility of porting or creating a recovery similar to safestrap.
Link for safestrap: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391900
Link for TWRP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173870
If any devs decide to contact Hashcode:
Haschode XDA page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4243514
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Hashcode0f
Blog/Website: http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/
If any devs are interested in porting TWRP:
http://teamw.in/blog/17
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Edit: I was looking at his post and he stated that he makes "kexec roms", which are roms meant for locked bootloaders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kexec
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kexec
http://androidforums.com/razr-razr-maxx-all-things-root/712412-understanding-kexec.html
Edit: I was searching up "roms on locked bootloader" and I found other phones such as, the S4 and Xperia Z, that have locked bootloders, as i mentioned previously, the S4 uses safestrap to install roms, while the Xperia Z uses a recovery heavily based of of TWRP.
We can also consider porting twrp to the L9.
Sounds like a fantastic idea!
So this could just be ported over to our phones right?
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will0899 said:
So this could just be ported over to our phones right?
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Hopefully. But the only thing is I was reading his blog, and he says that he doesn't have time for developing on a broad range of devices, and he had to cease development for a couple. I read his posts, and what other users have said of him, and he seems to always collaborate with other devs. Even for one of the kindles, he didn't have a device, yet he still made significant contributions. I'm not familiar with how devs work together and stuff, or make things, but based of of my knowledge, if a source code is released you can work off of that. I really think, this is possible, but will take allot of work. It may be easy to port the recovery, but after that someone needs to a make kexec rom (wich can be used for other roms) that works with safestrap, maybe a dev can create the kexec and he will help make it compatible with safestrap. (im pretty sure those are the basics, but I know I'm way off i know). It seems so possible, but it will take allot of work.
Off topic: someone needs to tell me how to make roms and contribute, what language to learn, should i use the internet a book, pdf (if so from where), how long it will take, how hard it is, and tips while learning. I have allot of time on my hands and I'm willing to take on new challenges.
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Checkout the android kitchen thread from the forums menu. There is a step by step as well as tools to download.
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mr.noob said:
Hopefully. But the only thing is I was reading his blog, and he says that he doesn't have time for developing on a broad range of devices, and he had to cease development for a couple. I read his posts, and what other users have said of him, and he seems to always collaborate with other devs. Even for one of the kindles, he didn't have a device, yet he still made significant contributions. I'm not familiar with how devs work together and stuff, or make things, but based of of my knowledge, if a source code is released you can work off of that. I really think, this is possible, but will take allot of work. It may be easy to port the recovery, but after that someone needs to a make kexec rom (wich can be used for other roms) that works with safestrap, maybe a dev can create the kexec and he will help make it compatible with safestrap. (im pretty sure those are the basics, but I know I'm way off i know). It seems so possible, but it will take allot of work.
Off topic: someone needs to tell me how to make roms and contribute, what language to learn, should i use the internet a book, pdf (if so from where), how long it will take, how hard it is, and tips while learning. I have allot of time on my hands and I'm willing to take on new challenges.
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I've read on XDA University today.
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I want to make this provocatoty question because after more than one month our XPS is the most locked phone here in XDA.
The fact is that we can only swap original firmwares, there is no way to root the phone in an easy way, without unlocking bootloader, and there is no recovery available.
I'm new in a similar situation after many smartphones owned; yes, the software is not bad, nor has big issues, but the plus of Android is also the openess...
What do you think?
Dude what the... we have root, can unlock the bootloader on the first day of the device how much easier and open can you get? I'm guessing you have never owned a Motorola phone before as u will then know the meaning of "locked tight".
Clockworkmod is coming like everything else, if you want to speed up the process you should help out perhaps, we can never have too many modders, rom makers, tweakers etc.
-smc
I've owned two motorola phones, and from what I see they did not have the bootloader not accepting unsigned software, even if locked. This make big difference as for now only official firmware are loadable and without a Sony change the situation remain without solutions.
...Okay
The phone has been out less than a month, and it's not even out globally yet (see the gigantic India thread, and others floating around at the moment, it's only available via import in a lot of locations)
Another thing...it is all being worked on at the moment. You want a custom firmware? be patient. There can't be any custom kernels yet because there is a bug in the bootloader at the moment (or something, I won't pretend to know how that works as i'm not a developer) that's keeping Doom and other developers from moving further with the development. Doom also doesn't own the S yet, so he can only do soo much at the moment.
There is already Mods available, but there isn't any modified firmwares out yet, because no one is making any, which I don't blame them because ICS is on its way. You can do it all yourself (read themes and apps section, maybe learn a bit about how to modify phone?), and until the bootloader thing is fixed, thats the best thing to do really.
There's no way to root without unlocking the bootloader -yet-.
It has been adressed many times, that there may be one in the future, but unlocking the bootloader is the current solution, and it works just fine. Also, keeping your bootloader locked (and it can even be relocked) limits your phone anyways. Unlocking your bootloader doesn't void your warranty, it just may if you do something stupid (read overlocking and frying phone) they may or may not (if they even see that you broke your phone by your own doing) fix it under warranty.
Also, if you havent noticed...there isn't a lot of developers on the Xperia S train yet, it all takes time.
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I want to make this provocatoty question because after more than one month our XPS is the most locked phone here in XDA.
The fact is that we can only swap original firmwares, there is no way to root the phone in an easy way, without unlocking bootloader, and there is no recovery available.
I'm new in a similar situation after many smartphones owned; yes, the software is not bad, nor has big issues, but the plus of Android is also the openess...
What do you think?
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Are you blind or what ? there is root, unlocking bootloader is offered DIRECTLY by SONY, so no need to hack...
Sony has released sources for almost anything on this phone, so if you're able to you can edit and rebuild...
there is also a modded kernel...
what you want more ?
if you want you can download sources, and start to learn how to build the kernel... there are guides on the sony developer site.
it's not easy to find something to mod, when everythinq works VERY GOOD with stock... but if there are requests... we can start to mod...
Nope, If you read relating posts, there is no way to make roms as in other phones, due to the bootloader bug, that is related to Sony not to developers.
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Are you blind or what ? there is root, unlocking bootloader is offered DIRECTLY by SONY, so no need to hack...
Sony has released sources for almost anything on this phone, so if you're able to you can edit and rebuild...
there is also a modded kernel...
what you want more ?
if you want you can download sources, and start to learn how to build the kernel... there are guides on the sony developer site.
it's not easy to find something to mod, when everythinq works VERY GOOD with stock... but if there are requests... we can start to mod...
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Please be polite, and read problems involved in development. Doom has locked his thread until there are news from Sony.
So OP's suggested solution for all these difficulties is just close the development section, then everything else will automatically be solved without anyone working, testing and exchanging ideas on it? Kudos to OP!
Actually I smell troll here.
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Although there is a bug in the bootloader I see no reason to close the whole thread .
There are other things that can be worked on and at the moment. It's a good place to get Stock Firmware that can be flashed . Always good to have a heavy variety of Stock ROMs to fall back too.
As stock firmwares are developed hopefully the bug will be fixed and Devs will be able to continue.
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Kudos to OP!
Actually I smell troll here.
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It was a provocatory post to show difficulties in developing software. If you look at the section it seems really abandoned.
If that's trolling, I submit to moderators judgement, and accept their decisions.
Is there any way I can unlock it using a Mac? Didn't find anything to do it yet, but maybe I am blind
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They are already working on cyanogen roms at mo for S. And the free xperia team have spoke to Sony and there will be a bootloader fix in a new fw soon. As people say we have a very new device. Good things come to those who wait
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It was a provocatory post to show difficulties in developing software. If you look at the section it seems really abandoned.
If that's trolling, I submit to moderators judgement, and accept their decisions.
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Yeah, I agree, the section with the second highest posts is totally abandoned...
...If we follow this guideline, I think we should close the Accessories section, due to lack of gadgets to go with our phones! (can you see the sarcasm?)
Really, just be patient, it's a new phone, stop whining, or how you say "being provocative".
Edit: Okay sorry, maybe that was a bit harsh...but really, I feel you don't really have the right to judge the speed of fixes and developments when you aren't doing it yourself. The best thing you can do is deal with it for now. They are doing what they can.
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They are already working on cyanogen roms at mo for S. And the free xperia team have spoke to Sony and there will be a bootloader fix in a new fw soon. As people say we have a very new device. Good things come to those who wait
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Good news, thanks
Hello I'm a newb!
I'm sorry, but this is the unfortunate state I find myself in.
When I first found this site, what I was expecting to find was a ICS for my phone. I could not have guessed what I would learn here. I had no idea I had a counter in my phone to worry about when installing open sourced roms? Next after much more reading I am to learn the source code Google releases is not complete, and uses binary drivers? Now I am to learn about CIQ, and my phone is spying on me? Wow!
Before I say anything else I want to express my thanks to this community. This has been such a resource I had no idea that it would be when I started. Thank you!
Now on to my question that after learning about all of that I don't seem to have a clear answer to. What I wanted when I first considered getting an Android phone, was to build from source, and run my own rom. I still want this, even more so since I learned about CIQ.
1. Due to the counter on my phone
2. I am to understand multiple images that make the phone work (boot, firmware, system)
3. The binary drivers.
Is this at all a reasonable goal?
Are there more flash images that I haven't read about yet?
Would having a direct from Google rom even be desirable?
I own a stock SGH-I777, I have done nothing to it yet.
Lastly about this site:
Is there anything you think I should read about on the forums?
Any language I should know, as in what does hellraiser imply/mean?
Any Android experience you think might benefit a could be developer?
Counter can be reset and avoided all together.
Sorry I don't know much about AOSP building, but your better off starting with compiling CM and learn from there unless you are really experienced in coding.
Speaking of, the image used to not increment the counter does, or does not still contain CIQ? I suspect it does? I would like a phone at some point w/o CIQ, and fully open source. Ty for reminding me.
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Speaking of, the image used to not increment the counter does, or does not still contain CIQ? I suspect it does? I would like a phone at some point w/o CIQ, and fully open source.
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AT&T Galaxy S2 SGH-I777 has never had CIQ.
LiLChris06 said:
AT&T Galaxy S2 SGH-I777 has never had CIQ.
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I'm shocked AT&T choose not to bug their customers? I assumed since I saw mention of it being on Samsung, that it was on all their phones?
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I'm shocked AT&T choose not to bug their customers? I assumed since I saw mention of it being on Samsung, that it was on all their phones?
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No it was just some phones, I think the skyrocket had it at some point.
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Ok, so I rooted my first cell phone. It would seem heimdall latest has a bug that will brick your phone. (I'm on Mac OS Lion) I used the 1.3.1 instead, and it worked fine.
I saw many more sites, and this was quite easy. The way they showed it was very complex. Since I'm new at this should I wait to try out a ICS rom till after Samsung releases their source code, and the devs have had a chance to get it stable? How complete is the open source version of ICS? There was a note on the fsf.org page that linked me over here that some of the parts were still binary. Is it still true?
I think long term I want to get away from the official releases.
Well, you came this far, might as well flash an ICS rom now. If the leaks are any indication of status, the Samsung release will be pretty stable but the included kernel is problematic because it can cause hardbricking. Besides, you want to get away from stock, and all of the big roms released thus far are pretty darn stable; I don't know anything about binary parts or any of the coding, but plenty of people have no problem running CM or AOKP. Even the Samsung-based roms all look AOSP-like nowadays because they use Apex or Nova (not many devs like Touchwiz anymore). So take your pick, they're all good roms and most look like AOSP to some extent, with a few (mainly CM and AOKP) striving for pure AOSP.
Make sure to read and follow this guide carefully for flashing stuff, and have fun!
Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Read, read, and read some more. If you don't understand the post above then there is no way you would be able to compile a rom for this phone, which is what I gathered from your op
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Yeh. Just give me the new thing! I want that shiny biscuit! Zomg! "Check MY device out. Its got AOKP on it. BAM.". "Oh cool how does that work?". "Pfft who cares. Its shiny!!!"
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Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Prother, by no mean to offense you, but seriously, if you don't know those fundamental technical terms, I strongly suggest you to hold off what you about to do and spend more time reading.
Let me go off and do a search the post for you, where you can get used to those terms.
Hang tight, prother.
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Read, read, and read some more. If you don't understand the post above then there is no way you would be able to compile a rom for this phone, which is what I gathered from your op
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So I will. To be honest I don't see the connection between the new jargon, and development I learn in school. There is definately much to learn here. I was expecting this to be like Zaurus development from back when I was active, it's very clear to me that this is a very different beast.
Here is one, I'm sure there is other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228&highlight=abbreviation
votinh said:
Here is one, I'm sure there is other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228&highlight=abbreviation
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Thank you friend. I may not have my own rom at the end of summer, but I should be on my way to understanding what would be needed for one.
Well the terms I wanted are not present on that list, most of that I was familiar with. To be honest, some of it I have not seen before as well. What is hellraiser, and some of the other xda developed jargon? I do have a tab open to that part of the forums, I just hadn't made it over there yet. I started on the forums for my device, then Android OS, and lastly general. Is there any other place I should pay special attention to that would help me?
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Yeh. Just give me the new thing! I want that shiny biscuit! Zomg! "Check MY device out. Its got AOKP on it. BAM.". "Oh cool how does that work?". "Pfft who cares. Its shiny!!!"
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Ok? I'm not sure I understand, is there something you don't like about the aokp rom that doesn't work very well?
I want off of the carrier provided images based on personal conviction. Google's development practices smack of cathedral, as do all of the 3rd party companies. In a sense they are abusing the spirit of free software by using a signed kernel to impede (if not actually prevent) our right to modify hardware we own. Any normal user of the software provided by the community (bazaar) can only help the cause.
I plan to share what I personally learn with close friends who live in my area. The more people we liberate, the better for everyone else. I simply applaud the work done here.
You can safely ignore Phalanx's post, he's just mocking you and other new users for not reading carefully and being stupid. You're at least trying to read and understand stuff, so I don't see any reason you should be put down the way he's doing so.
Here are a couple other links I think you'll find useful (please click my thanks button if you agree!):
ROM vs Kernel
Odex vs Deodex
Make sure to read all of the links posted in the sticky at the top of this forum, too. But note that by no means is this everything you need to read.
Mind you, all this reading is meant mostly for end-users, so that we learn how to safely and smartly modify our phones. Actual original developing beyond using what's already provided by the devs is a whole different story, and I'm sure there's even more to read up on that.
Good luck, happy flashing, and if you plan to develop later down the line, good luck with that too!
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You can safely ignore Phalanx's post, he's just mocking you and other new users for not reading carefully and being stupid. You're at least trying to read and understand stuff, so I don't see any reason you should be put down the way he's doing so.
Here are a couple other links I think you'll find useful (please click my thanks button if you agree!):
ROM vs Kernel
Odex vs Deodex
Make sure to read all of the links posted in the sticky at the top of this forum, too. But note that by no means is this everything you need to read.
Mind you, all this reading is meant mostly for end-users, so that we learn how to safely and smartly modify our phones. Actual original developing beyond using what's already provided by the devs is a whole different story, and I'm sure there's even more to read up on that.
Good luck, happy flashing, and if you plan to develop later down the line, good luck with that too!
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Ty for all your help. I'm glad you're all so thorough, it was like peeling an onion. The more I was looking at rooting my phone, the more there was to learn. All of you have done an amazing job making this approachable to a brand new user.
Ah I don't assume anymore about what people are trying to say, not everyone is a native english speaker. So I try to be understanding.
Yup I'll be at this for a while, I'm happy to have made some introductions, and maybe some time down the road I can even hope to contribute in some small way.
From a relative noob:
Follow the directions in the " [GUIDE] How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash Counter!! " thread. Then pick a rom you want to try and follow the CWM directions ... after that , find a ROM you like. If you don't want to void your warranty, wait for your carrier to provide the closest thing to what you want ... but, I'm happy with my flashed ICS ROM.
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Ty for all your help. I'm glad you're all so thorough, it was like peeling an onion. The more I was looking at rooting my phone, the more there was to learn. All of you have done an amazing job making this approachable to a brand new user.
Ah I don't assume anymore about what people are trying to say, not everyone is a native english speaker. So I try to be understanding.
Yup I'll be at this for a while, I'm happy to have made some introductions, and maybe some time down the road I can even hope to contribute in some small way.
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Just like everyone else has said. Read read read. Search for answers for your questions before you ask on forums. U will be fine as long as u can read and follow simple directions. Good luck to u. If u haven't flashed a rom yet I would recommend aokp. Awesome rom.
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All-In-One Guide
By: ilxaot
9-27-13
Introduction -
Okay, so our phone's a tad.. odd. At least, the American variant is. Thanks to T-Maybe and LGay our bootloader is locked, and has baffled plenty of users. Look at our forum views and the people that visit, but don't become members? I understand some of them are lazy and such, but many are driven away by the current "methods" to unlocking the bootloader for full customization. So, I've come here to sort everything into one nice little thread, because I'm bored and I have nothing to do on my Friday night. Unlike much of my generation, I don't leave high school to go to parties and consume kegs until I puke, roll blunts until I fly, or get on speed and run around around naked eating people's eyeballs out. I prefer to sit inside and type guides ^-^ So, without further ado, let's begin, shall we?
BTW: To anybody (Many people) who saw my Unlocked Bootloader Mods thread, this will include much of that, and other sections. Read onn maties.
Table of Contents
-Introduction (You read this.. I hope)
-Table of Contents (I wonder where that would be?)
-Getting Started (This is for the newbzors. Veteran users, read on)
-What's this bootloader thing? (A spiral of condemnation)
-The Fork in the Road (Choices, choices, choices)
-Now, what can I do with root? (Gee, I wonder what.)
-My phone is slow, can I have mods? (Sure!)
-My apps suck, can I have apps? (Of course not.)
-Bye (Read this and I'll feel cared for)
Getting Started
Okay, so, first off, if you're new, welcome to the forums! There's a lot of great guys here. Some are complete.. Well, I won't say that publicly. There are certain characters who I'm not fond of, but most of them are a fantastic group of guys! So, if you ever need help with something, ask one of these guys: @kuma82, @BioDesigner48, @Lelus, @carloswii5. They're awesome ^-^
So, with that being said, here's our current situation. We have a nice mid-high range phone. We CAN root it easily, however, we cannot unlock our bootloader using the standardized "adb reboot oem-unlock" command. Don't panic! It's really no need to get confused. I'll make this as simple as possible, until even the stupid little iSheep can understand a portion(;
So basically, we have root on the majority of our devices. What we do NOT have, is a majority of unlocked bootloaders. It seems quite randomized and pretty thrown-together if you ask me, so I haven't exactly gotten into it. BUT! I have experimented with modifications and tweaks that affect the stock ROM, to make it more intense. So basically, this thread is about everything on this phone. Because I'm bored. That's why.
What's This Bootloader Thing?
Remember how I said I'd make it simple to where iSheep, iDiots, iTards, and iPreps could understand? Well, here we go. Experienced users brace yourselves! Unspecific noob answer inbound! The bootloader, can be thought of, as what "loads" the "boot." I'll leave it at that. Since it's locked, you can't modify the "boot," therefore the system is left largely unchanged. There are a great plenty questions and a great less amount of confident answers, but with luck, and some faith, you can unlock it! Here are some links to some guides if you're interested.
Unspecific, outdated - HERE
Specific, Recent - HERE
Video, Specific - HERE
Best of luck. If you're intimidated, keep reading this post. Honestly, there's still some work left to be done ^-^
The Fork In The Road
Well, now you have a choice. You can either root, install busybox, obtain a "bootstrap" recovery, and flash mods to your build.prop and stuff for dayzzz. Or, you can take the dark, usually antagonizing way out, the unlocking of the bootloader. Best of luck ^-^ Simply remember that if you FUBAR your phone we aren't liable.
Personally, I recommend sticking with root and not unlocking the bootloader. But that's just me. Have I tried to unlock before? Yes, and I didn't succeed (PC hates me...) but I'm happy enough on my modded stock ROM.
Now, What Can I Do With Root?
This is as easy as it gets. HERE
Rooted? That's right! Go get 'em boy! Kidding, that's easy. Now, go to the Play Store and download a "Busybox" app, and install busybox. Then, go to THIS thread and install the L9 Bootstrap Recovery. It's easy as 1,2,3. Download, open, install. ^-^ I'd also recommend finding some "Xposed" framework modules, they're increasing in popularity. Plenty of them can be found on the web and especially these forums. (derp) You're incredibly welcome
Now, here's a brief list of things you can do!
-Theme your phone with XThemes here!
-Get more memory on your phone here!
-Overclock your phone here!
-Kick people from your WiFi here!
-Snoop through people's data over WiFi here!
-Hack your games here!
-Backup your phone here!
-Tether your phone here!
My phone is slow, Can I have mods?
Sure! I'll post a link to the Development and Hacking section of the General XDA forums. This is where developer modify and tweak stock Android files such as the build.prop (incredibly modifiable) and init.d scripts. Go to the Play Store and search "init.d" and find an app that installs it for you. It's quite simple, really. Now, are you ready?!
Go here. You're welcome. Find a mod that suits you, download it to your SD card, boot into recovery, and FLASH IT! MUAHAHA.
Now, if you'd like an old thread of mine with mods I found to work well together to improve our specific device, go visit this thread. It got popular at one point ^-^ Then I got tired of updating it with new mods. Lulz.
P.S. My personal favorite is the CrossBreeder mod.
My apps suck, can I have apps?
Sure! When I decide to make this section. It's 11:48 and I'm incredibly tired and craving a nice, tall glass of water. So, when I get bored again, I'll update this section. (Forewarning: There's a good bit of apps ;D) So, yeah. Sorry about this whole "I'm too lazy to finish this guide come back later" thing.
Bye
^^ Yepp. Adios. Tankzz ferr reeding. :3
My name is, my name is, not slim shady, lol
:good: Thanks for helping everyone out, and thanks for you kind words.
lol The only problem is @Kuma won't be able to help anyone, if they send him(or her) a PM.
Just thought I'll let you know
Lol I wonder if that's an old account I made way back when. I kind of remember making a account, but can't really remember.
Oh crap! Kuma82. My bad XD I'll fix it when I update it. On my phone ATM/:
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This is so helpful! And you're not the only one that doesn't party. First, I don't drink or smoke. Second, I would suffer an instant death if I get caught. Lol....my family is very strict.
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thanx for the thread bro u helped so much :good:
Glad to help ^-^ Got bored one day
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Over the past couple weeks every waking moment of spare time I have had I have used reading any article, watching any movie, browsing any forum thread I have found on the topic of custom rom development and I think I'm getting close to where I can begin my first build. If any of the users here can point me to any helpful links to help me with this I would greatly appreciate it. Now, onto my question. This is probably considered pure sacrilege but I was just curious on the matter. I was wondering, lets say I was wanting to port the new ToudhWiz over to our device would this be possible. If it is possible how difficult is it going to be and is it a project a beginner developer could ever hope to accomplish?
Onto my second question. I have been waiting ever since I got the DNA to see an Ubuntu Touch port for it and have got to the point where I don't believe I'm ever going to see it happen. Is this due to it being harder to build then lets say a AOSP based Rom or is it because not many people in our community here seem to care if it happens or not? The reason I'm asking is because after I get a couple Roms compiled from the simple FAQs I have been able to find and have figured out kind of what I'm doing I think I would like to try to port it over. Once again, ANY and all help is greatly appreciated, whether it's just links to other sites that has helped the developers here get to where they are or even someone wanting to help me learn personally. I have the upmost respect to all of the developers on this site and want to be able to consider myself among this elite group very soon. If I have posted this in the wrong place let the mods move it and let me know of my mistake.
Sincerely,
DrewHamm974
As someone who is fairly new to android / Rom development. Its something that takes a bit of time. I started small by just learning how to compile from source to figuring out how to get it set up to work on a device that already has support to eventually bringing roms to this device when they weren't supported.
I'm no expert but also knowing a programming language like C, C++, and Java will help.
Xda-university.com has some stuff on Rom development.
As for porting TW probably won't happen. Ububtu touch good luck... You will need either someone to do kernel work or learn how to dev a kernel first...
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.torrented said:
As someone who is fairly new to android / Rom development. Its something that takes a bit of time. I started small by just learning how to compile from source to figuring out how to get it set up to work on a device that already has support to eventually bringing roms to this device when they weren't supported.
I'm no expert but also knowing a programming language like C, C++, and Java will help.
Xda-university.com has some stuff on Rom development.
As for porting TW probably won't happen. Ububtu touch good luck... You will need either someone to do kernel work or learn how to dev a kernel first...
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First off I would like to say thank you very much for answering my question. Honestly, I was hoping for an answer from you, Pio, Palmer, or amit_sen. I am currently running CyanFox and must say it is awesome. If I could be bold enough to ask, why would porting TouchWiz not work? Is it due to something about it being a proprietary rom or is it something in the source that won't compile for anything but a Galaxy phone. The reason I am asking is due to the fact if I'm not completely mistaken I saw a sense rom for either the S2 or S3 not long ago.
Now onto Ubuntu touch, I thought all you had to have to port it was a working CM 10.1 build to get it working. Also, is there anywhere besides XDA University you could send me to help learning Rom and/ or Kernel development. Once again I greatly appreciate you taking the time to answer my question I idolize any devs that are on here freely giving their time and hard work.
DrewHamm974
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I would recommend learning how to build CM 10.2. Once you have a working build, figure out how to build AOKP (or any other ROM without official support).
After that, you will probably have new questions.
Thanks will definately do.
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Touchwiz would be easy to get booting but almost everything would be broken. And because you can't actually compile touchwiz it makes fixing anything a giant pain. Ubuntu touch on the other hand would be relatively easy because you can compile it.
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If I remember correctly, Ubuntu touch is typically based on the cm10.1 kernel, for whatever it's worth.
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I know that there is already a thread on their forum asking for support BUT a second livelier thread cant hurt. Go ahead over and vote YES for official support.
PLEASE note that I'm NOT guaranteeing anything. I cant even guarantee that they will respond. But It cant hurt to try right?
Here is the link to go to the thread.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/...-samsung-galaxy-light-sgh-t399-and-sgh-t399n/
I don't know if it'll help any, but i've voted, would be nice if we had official support. Having official support would make having this phone more bearable until whenever I can get an upgrade, would like to get off of Touchwiz.
Juanito216 said:
I don't know if it'll help any, but i've voted, would be nice if we had official support. Having official support would make having this phone more bearable until whenever I can get an upgrade, would like to get off of Touchwiz.
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Yeah there's been so many views on the forum here for the light that itnhas enough interest.
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Voted!
Over 230 some views of this thread and only 6 votes on the cyanogen mod site. Really people, I am quite irked by that! Let's get some love for this device and possible official support for it!
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/...-samsung-galaxy-light-sgh-t399-and-sgh-t399n/
You have to understand cm is losing many fans here. If you ask why then just have a look around. The main reason is they merge untested code, enclude bootloader, radios and other stuff that they should not be messing with and have even bricked a bunch of nexus devices. Also you have to keep in mind that many developers have walked away from Samsung devices due to their lieing to devs and the locked down nature of their devices.
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You have to understand cm is losing many fans here. If you ask why then just have a look around. The main reason is they merge untested code, enclude bootloader, radios and other stuff that they should not be messing with and have even bricked a bunch of nexus devices. Also you have to keep in mind that many developers have walked away from Samsung devices due to their lieing to devs and the locked down nature of their devices.
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That's a good point. I wouldn't mind any custom rom though like pac rom, or slim rom. But apparently this phone just isn't popular enough for people to care. Shame I don't have the money for an S4 lol
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kireflow90 said:
That's a good point. I wouldn't mind any custom rom though like pac rom, or slim rom. But apparently this phone just isn't popular enough for people to care. Shame I don't have the money for an S4 lol
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Well my best advice would be for someone with the device to dig in and see what they can get going. What you need to find out first is if the bootloader can be unlocked, then finding the kernel source for the device. Without those 2 basic things no one will be able to do anything for the device. If you find them in your favor (wish you all the luck in the world....you will need it with samaung) then the rest is not that hard. Getting device trees up and then syncing up to the source of your choice and boom. You got a rom
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Well my best advice would be for someone with the device to dig in and see what they can get going. What you need to find out first is if the bootloader can be unlocked, then finding the kernel source for the device. Without those 2 basic things no one will be able to do anything for the device. If you find them in your favor (wish you all the luck in the world....you will need it with samaung) then the rest is not that hard. Getting device trees up and then syncing up to the source of your choice and boom. You got a rom
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Just found a kernel source thanks to a generous xda'er, may I ask how we can check if the bootloader is unlockable? More familiar with Sony devices...
AcreaperJB said:
Just found a kernel source thanks to a generous xda'er, may I ask how we can check if the bootloader is unlockable? More familiar with Sony devices...
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To the best of my knowledge the bootloader was never locked. Built before Samsung hated us!
Voted, lets do this, I cant WAIT for a decently running CM port. This phone is utterly AMAZING (its almost a Galaxy S4 but smaller and FAR cheaper) and its a damn shame there isnt enough DEV support yet