Hangouts 4.4 - Nexus 10 Themes and Apps

With the new hangouts app, will we be able to receive SMS from our Nexus 10?

matejilic said:
With the new hangouts app, will we be able to receive SMS from our Nexus 10?
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No, SMS go through the cellular radio like voice calls, not via Wi-Fi or even 3G data connections.
There are plenty of web-based SMS services (Google Voice, for relevant instance), but the Nexus 10 can not, and can never, send SMS natively

chaosdefinesorder said:
No, SMS go through the cellular radio like voice calls, not via Wi-Fi or even 3G data connections.
There are plenty of web-based SMS services (Google Voice, for relevant instance), but the Nexus 10 can not, and can never, send SMS natively
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Well that sucks, I thought hangouts would become something like iMessage. Couldn't they sync SMS over WiFi and our Google account like MightyText does?

matejilic said:
Well that sucks, I thought hangouts would become something like iMessage. Couldn't they sync SMS over WiFi and our Google account like MightyText does?
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Don't know about the syncing bit for definite (at least until my N5 arrives and I play around with and my N10 together), however it DOES function almost exactly like iMessage in that if your contact also has Hangouts then you can send your message via the Hangouts IM protocol
Even iMessage (as I understand it) cannot send an SMS to a contact without a cellular modem (i.e. tablets of any type, even iPads). If your contact runs iOS, then they will receive an iMessage regardless of tablet or phone, however it is not an SMS, it is an IM through the iMessage servers and protocol...

chaosdefinesorder said:
Don't know about the syncing bit for definite (at least until my N5 arrives and I play around with and my N10 together), however it DOES function almost exactly like iMessage in that if your contact also has Hangouts then you can send your message via the Hangouts IM protocol
Even iMessage (as I understand it) cannot send an SMS to a contact without an iPhone. If your contact runs iOS, then they will receive an iMessage regardless of tablet or phone, however it is not an SMS, it is an IM through the iMessage servers and protocol...
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Cool, thx for the clarification!

matejilic said:
Cool, thx for the clarification!
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I added a slight more clarification on my last paragraph that you might not have seen before quoting!

As a separate workaround, you can use Tablet Talk, which links between your cell and N10. It allows you to send SMS through Tablet Talk on the N10 via your cell phone.

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Texting App?

Is there an Android App that can Send and Receive Texts via WiFi on your Prime like you Text from a Smartphone using a Contact's Phone number?
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Did you do any research ? at all ?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.howettl.textab
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mysms.android.client
CasseTrop said:
Did you do any research ? at all ?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.howettl.textab
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mysms.android.client
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I did a Google search and found some info I was just wondering if there a Popular one that Prime guys like. Thanks for your input.
"Prime guys"? I swear XDA is just goin to hell. There is already a thread on here for the exact same thing.
Try Gtalk. Every SMS will go to whatever app you have Gtalk open on, either your computer/tablet/phone.
Google Voice is as good as any app for SMS. I use it on my tablet. You can consolidate all texts and call through the same number, ditch your carrier number for the most part, so that when you swap carriers or phones or REAL phone numbers, people can still use the same number to reach you. You could even use the Google Voice Callback (though its market availability is currently in limbo, install it on an android phone by downloading the apk. It all syncs together, you can use your GV with an app like sipdroid to make calls using voip. I thought this was all common knowledge for android users.
Nick
Just install tablet talk and use a real phone. Google Voice blocks you from sending messages to a contact after 120-150 in one day, unless you are using it through forwarding texts to any cellular (dumb or smart)phone. So GV on it's own is not useful for serious communication.
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As far as I know Google Voice does not send MMS either. If it did I would use it on all my devices by default.
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[Q] Sent Google Voice messages synced to native SMS

I have Sprint and an integrated google voice number. I also have a tablet I use to send/receive GVoice messages. Problem is, only the received messages will show up on my phone...any message sent through GVoice isn't there. Ps, I understand WHY, just looking for a way to get around it.
Is there any app/technique available (searched FOREVER) that will allow my phone to sync up with the sent messages from GVoice? Essentially, I want to be able to have a gvoice only conversation on the tablet and have the same conversation show up on the phone.
Thanks!
Bump. Have an app that can send GV from the native SMS system.
GV Intergration
But I cannot get GV messages received in the native message app without forwarding the text through the proper SMS phone number. I thought there was an an option for this in the GV app, but it doesn't seem to make a difference for me.
I just emailed the developer of the GV Integration app asking if he had any ideas on how to do this. Unfortunately, the Google Voice app is the only one I've found that will sync messages instantly (or at all). I SMS a *lot* from my laptop browser via google.com/voice and the Google Voice chrome plugin.. so it would suck to only see one side (incoming) of the text thread.
I'll definitely let you guys know if I find anything.
damnit google.. open up the freakin api already.
Also.. if you do use the Google Voice app.. there's an app on the market called NotifierPro that works with the Android Google Voice app to display popups of incoming text messages... which is convenient.
You can send text mesages with GVI, then have them forwarded back to your phone. That would work if you have unlimited inbound texts, but it cuts prepaid texting in half, which is nice, but could be nicer.
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Well, I'm glad others have an interest in something like this too. I've been using mysms recently...it's by no means reliable and it relies on your phone to send/receive (unlike GV) but it works ok for now. Mighty text works better as far a reliability goes, but is terrible with the tablet browser, doesn't support notifications, and still relies on the phone...still not GV. I guess we'll just gave to wait.
Argh...the GV integration app ALMOST works. It might just be a matter of getting the settings right. Messages sent from a Google Voice web browser get integrated into handcent (Usually after you receive a message). I just keep running into problems with duplicate messages, not getting notifications from handcent (messages still show up), etc depending on the settings I choose between the GV/Handcent/GV Integration apps.
SO frustrating...has anyone had better luck?
Looking for a way to keep text sent from the browser and tablet synced with my phone as well. Im using Sprints GV integration as well.
I know this thread is old but for anybody that finds this post you should know that cm10.2 roms have voice+ which integrates messages sent from a computer to your phones message store
Wow thread resurrection! Yes it's awesome. Been using it since Koush came out with Babel. Recent nightlies though, receiving messages has been spotty. Are you using nightlies and or are you seeing this too?
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For anyone else, the app Sliding Messaging (on play store, or if you search xda) just added Google voice integration.
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[MOD][REQ]Remove 100 text/hour limit for AOxP ROMS

This seems to be a common but unaddressed issue with AOxP ROMs. Apparently ICS does a poor job of splitting messages nor does it allow more than 100 messages to be sent an hour. For messages that are split the text received is garbled (not in the order sent or unreadable). It does not matter what SMS app you use (Handcent, GoSMS, or stock) the results are the same.
To recreate the issue, send a text with 200 characters or more, to 20 or more recipients. While that message is sending, send another text (test) to one person. You will get a popup stating that a large number of texts are being sent; press cancel to stop or ok to keep sending. If the message is sent the recipient will either not get the entire message or it will not be received at all. This is for messages sent to any carrier (GSM or CDMA).
This is such a frustrating issue for me, I am willing to pay for help. If you are a developer, and are willing to help, please let me know. If the fix works it should be made available to everyone.
I did try this tweak to no avail.
Sir, I see and understand your question/request.
This may be better placed in the Gen section?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480557
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bigjoe2675 said:
Sir, I see and understand your question/request.
This may be better placed in the Gen section?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480557
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Thanks I'm cool with that. Just don't want it to get lost in the shuffle, or not receive the attention it deserves.
That's a fk ton of texts. I'm curious why you would want to send so many texts on a regular basis? Not flaming, just genuinely curious.
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Why so many texts?
yollasho said:
That's a fk ton of texts. I'm curious why you would want to send so many texts on a regular basis? Not flaming, just genuinely curious.
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I lead a men's ministry and the best way to communicate with them in realtime is via text.
How realtime is Google +, making a circle for just your group, but then all would have to have Google accounts....?
A Fan page via Facebook...?
Twitter page wth just your group?
Palringo: desktop and app...I use it.. Palringo...you can make room/chats for just your group...Palringo is a server-based instant messaging client for various platforms. It supported several protocols such as AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), Yahoo! Messenger, Windows Live Messenger, XMPP/Jabber, Google Talk, Gadu-Gadu, ICQ, MobileMe/iChat and Facebook IM.[1] As of May 11, 2012, Palringo stopped supporting third party IM protocols to focus on their own group messaging system
Idk...just ideas... Just an idea till your request is looked at?
bigjoe2675 said:
How realtime is Google +, making a circle for just your group, but then all would have to have Google accounts....?
A Fan page via Facebook...?
Twitter page wth just your group?
Palringo: desktop and app...I use it.. Palringo...you can make room/chats for just your group...Palringo is a server-based instant messaging client for various platforms. It supported several protocols such as AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), Yahoo! Messenger, Windows Live Messenger, XMPP/Jabber, Google Talk, Gadu-Gadu, ICQ, MobileMe/iChat and Facebook IM.[1] As of May 11, 2012, Palringo stopped supporting third party IM protocols to focus on their own group messaging system
Idk...just ideas... Just an idea till your request is looked at?
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Great ideas! Unfortunately many of the guys are not tech savvy and even less do social sites. Most of them have regular, non-smart phones. All of them have text plans so this is the agreed up method of communication. Trust me, I'd rather do something like Facebook. I have 6 phone lines for my family (four children). All the children text. We do so little calling that we have the smallest/lowest voice plan AT&T offers. I just can't believe AOSP has built in limitations for texting in 2012.
mobilelew said:
Great ideas! Unfortunately many of the guys are not tech savvy and even less do social sites. Most of them have regular, non-smart phones. All of them have text plans so this is the agreed up method of communication. Trust me, I'd rather do something like Facebook. I have 6 phone lines for my family (four children). All the children text. We do so little calling that we have the smallest/lowest voice plan AT&T offers. I just can't believe AOSP has built in limitations for texting in 2012.
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so.....
a non-AOSP rom is not an option for you?
some do work great ya know....
How about using google voice for texting. I use it along with the stock messaging. Doesn't seem to split texts. No mms support as of yet, but texting works great. Just need to get a google voice number. You can use that number strictly for your ministry. Can even receive calls on it on multiple lines. Works very well. You can also send and receive texts from your PC.
froidroid said:
How about using google voice for texting. I use it along with the stock messaging. Doesn't seem to split texts. No mms support as of yet, but texting works great. Just need to get a google voice number. You can use that number strictly for your ministry. Can even receive calls on it on multiple lines. Works very well. You can also send and receive texts from your PC.
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I 2nd that! I've been using Google Voice for my computer repair & Audio/Video Service for about 3 years now. Plus I cracked my Note's screen Saturday night shooting pool so now i have a black screen,but i use Google Voice via text messaging from my laptop to keep in touch with people until my replacement arrives tomorrow Fedex.
froidroid said:
How about using google voice for texting. I use it along with the stock messaging. Doesn't seem to split texts. No mms support as of yet, but texting works great. Just need to get a google voice number. You can use that number strictly for your ministry. Can even receive calls on it on multiple lines. Works very well. You can also send and receive texts from your PC.
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That's actually a great idea. I will give that a try. I still want the functionality in the ROM if possible.

Google released a new "Messenger" app.

Google released a new messenger app, if anyone wants to try it out.
It supports Group MMS.
Playstore Link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging
Phonearena Article
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Messenger-app-for-Android-released-by-Google_id62790
Mods please move to apps and themes, accidentally posted here.
but does it work w/ wifi calling for group mms?
I hope it works with Wi-Fi calling, but I highly doubt it. I guess I am going to stick with the stock app, I just wished it the stock one was more full featured on the Android Wear similar to hangouts.
It doesn't work with WiFi calling on T-Mobile. No third party apps do as this is a carrier policy. It looks good, but for some reason I was getting double texts from group MMS messages.
Yea I can confirm that as well, unfortunate.
If TMO had full Google Voice integration like Sprint it would be nice that way not only MMS, but you can makw calls and send SMS/MMS from your computer as well. I really miss that.
I'd love to be able to send texts from within hangouts on the PC.
I know there are other apps available, but they're annoying, and most cost money for the 'good' features...
xxquicksh0txx said:
I'd love to be able to send texts from within hangouts on the PC.
I know there are other apps available, but they're annoying, and most cost money for the 'good' features...
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As a former Sprint user this is a big let down, I barely had my phone next to me, all SMS/MMS & calls were via my laptop (using my phone number). Then again Sprint's coverage was so bad lol.
unfortunately
Thank you for the post, I installed it on my Z3 all works fine but I just get my received messages not my sent messages, where it should be my received and sent messages.
Please help if there's a way, see screenshots attached
I get both, did you set it as default messaging app?
Third party applications do not work with T-Mobile's WiFi calling protocol. It's a bit ridiculous at this point, but I had to just return my Z3 before the 14-day period ended. They saw that the stock messaging app didn't support group MMS, and that I also reached out to the developers @ Sony.
They let me return the phone without paying the restocking fee. What a shame. Hopefully Sony comes out with a fix for their stock messaging application...or maybe one day T-Mobile will allow access to the WiFi Calling protocol for third party apps.
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I get both, did you set it as default messaging app?
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Yes, I have made it my default, I don't get the old ones, I just get them both from the time I have installed it upwards,
no GIF support

forwarding sms while overseas

I've read about Google voice to see if this would work,not sure. On at&t,unlocked note 9. Vacationing in europe. Need to be able to receive texts for work. Without buying the expensive att plan, can
I use Google voice or a project Fi sim and forward those texts so i can receive in realtime in europe with wifi connection? Doesn't matter if i reply from a different nunber, just need to receive the message. Thanks
tomplatz said:
I've read about Google voice to see if this would work,not sure. On at&t,unlocked note 9. Vacationing in europe. Need to be able to receive texts for work. Without buying the expensive att plan, can
I use Google voice or a project Fi sim and forward those texts so i can receive in realtime in europe with wifi connection? Doesn't matter if i reply from a different nunber, just need to receive the message. Thanks
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To the best of my knowledge Google Voice works anywhere you can or are logged into Google. So as long as you will be logged into the device with your google account the Google Voice app will function anyplace it can reach the internet. I know making international calls cost and you can add money to your account or tie it to your Google Pay account but the Google Voice app should function the same delivering messages and voicemail to the app just like here in the states. The funny thing is when I read the header for you post the first thing that popped into my mind was Google Voice.
FreeTextSMS Web SMS Solution can forward your SMS to web browser
You can try FreeTextSMS.net Web SMS App, which can forward your Android's every SMS/Text Message in time to your Web browser.
For example, you can just leave your Android phone at home, and read/write your SMS on any web browser anywhere.
It is a kind of Online bulk SMS/group SMS solution on your desktop web browsers through your phone and virtual SMS vendor.
Send and receive SMS text messages on your desktop Windows/Mac/Linux with web browsers, such as Chrome/FireFox/Safari, through your Android phone and virtual Online SMS provider. Move your native SMS application of Android phone to desktop web browsers for convenient reading and writing. Supports Group SMS/Bulk SMS through your mobile phone and/or virtual online SMS vendors in very cheap price.
After installing this app, just visit https://freetextsms.net to pair it with your web browser. No need to install desktop application on your Windows/Mac/Linux, etc,.
You can download and try it from XLabs: https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/com.joege.freetextsms
tomplatz said:
I've read about Google voice to see if this would work,not sure. On at&t,unlocked note 9. Vacationing in europe. Need to be able to receive texts for work. Without buying the expensive att plan, can
I use Google voice or a project Fi sim and forward those texts so i can receive in realtime in europe with wifi connection? Doesn't matter if i reply from a different nunber, just need to receive the message. Thanks
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