App Ops in Android 4.4 - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys, I hope this is the right section.
Since I updated my N4 to 4.4 AOSPA, none of the App Ops shortcut-apps works anymore. Has Google removed/renamed/replaced it, does anyone know that?
Best regards.

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LGXX said:
Hi guys, I hope this is the right section.
Since I updated my N4 to 4.4 AOSPA, none of the App Ops shortcut-apps works anymore. Has Google removed/renamed/replaced it, does anyone know that?
Best regards.
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Google has masked the entry activity in its android source codes of Settings.
From the git comments "ca1b745 Completely remove app ops activity. by Dianne Hackborn - 4 months ago", you can get the information from here: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Settings/
And the detail code change log and diff log is here:
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...a1b7458244191214172009d21eae2d04b6992f9^!/#F0

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LGXX said:
Hi guys, I hope this is the right section.
Since I updated my N4 to 4.4 AOSPA, none of the App Ops shortcut-apps works anymore. Has Google removed/renamed/replaced it, does anyone know that?
Best regards.
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any luck getting this working?

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I wish this had been mentioned in any of the tech blogs but I haven't seen a word about it. Weird since it was mentioned everywhere when 4.3 arrived. Maybe THE best feature in 4.3 and now it's gone.
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I found this: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/AppOpsManager.html

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figofuture said:
Google has masked the entry activity in its android source codes of Settings.
From the git comments "ca1b745 Completely remove app ops activity.
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Seems like only the activity has been masked out.
With root it should be possible to launch APP_OPS_SETTINGS.

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Hollam said:
Seems like only the activity has been masked out.
With root it should be possible to launch APP_OPS_SETTINGS.
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My phone is rooted, how can I launch APP_OPS_SETTINGS ?

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Hollam said:
Seems like only the activity has been masked out.
With root it should be possible to launch APP_OPS_SETTINGS.
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It is not.

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combustiblemonkey said:
It is not.
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There are xposed modules for this but for the end user I dont know why they would have removed this!

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Lgrootnoob said:
There are xposed modules for this but for the end user I dont know why they would have removed this!
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Xposed does not yet work on 4.4, dev is supposed to receive his device on the 22nd, from what I saw via search (don't have a link).
What if we compile our own build of AOSP but with that commit reverted? Theoretically possible, how well would it run I wonder. If someone can tell me how to revert that commit I may try building it myself for my N5 and flashing it. I've compiled CM using the wiki. I just have to resetup the VM, I erased it because I needed space my on laptop HDD.

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rockingondrums said:
Xposed does not yet work on 4.4, dev is supposed to receive his device on the 22nd, from what I saw via search (don't have a link).
What if we compile our own build of AOSP but with that commit reverted? Theoretically possible, how well would it run I wonder. If someone can tell me how to revert that commit I may try building it myself for my N5 and flashing it. I've compiled CM using the wiki. I just have to resetup the VM, I erased it because I needed space my on laptop HDD.
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Im aware of xposed on 4.4 ive tested it a lot.
Thats an interesting idea though.

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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.findsdk.apppermission
It works! Doesn't even require root
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somebody had found a way to work round the google's mask code,
If you activated developer mode in your KITKAT device, connect your device to PC and then try the following command.
% adb shell am start -n com.android.settings/com.android.settings.Settings \
-e :android:show_fragment com.android.settings.applications.AppOpsSummary \
--activity-clear-task --activity-exclude-from-recents
The new way invokes AppOps fragment via the Setting app!!
Of course, you can invoke AppOps from your application.
Intent intent = new Intent();
intent.setClassName("com.android.settings",
"com.android.settings.Settings");
intent.setAction(Intent.ACTION_MAIN);
intent.addCategory(Intent.CATEGORY_DEFAULT);
intent.setFlags(Intent.FLAG_ACTIVITY_NEW_TASK |
Intent.FLAG_ACTIVITY_CLEAR_TASK |
Intent.FLAG_ACTIVITY_EXCLUDE_FROM_RECENTS);
intent.putExtra(":android:show_fragment",
"com.android.settings.applications.AppOpsSummary");
startActivity(intent);
for more details, please refer http://brightechno.com/blog/archives/211

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I'm using this one in KitKat:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.facelock.permissionmanager
works like a charm

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naplam said:
I'm using this one in KitKat:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.facelock.permissionmanager
works like a charm
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your APP is so BIG, it is more than 200kb, please try this one, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ovmobile.appopslauncher
it is ONLY 7kb, no ads, no pay, no permission required, no root, support KITKAT, please have a try, thanks !!!!
AND you can SCAN this QR image to download it,
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figofuture said:
your APP is so BIG, it is more than 200kb, please try this one, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ovmobile.appopslauncher
it is ONLY 7kb, no ads, no pay, no permission required, no root, support KITKAT, please have a try, thanks !!!!
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Works good, thanks!

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Found an ap ops starter that works with 4.4
LGXX said:
Hi guys, I hope this is the right section.
Since I updated my N4 to 4.4 AOSPA, none of the App Ops shortcut-apps works anymore. Has Google removed/renamed/replaced it, does anyone know that?
Best regards.
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4.3+ AppOps work with KitKat
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=name.schlenke.tools.hiddensettings

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figofuture said:
your APP is so BIG, it is more than 200kb, please try this one, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ovmobile.appopslauncher
it is ONLY 7kb, no ads, no pay, no permission required, no root, support KITKAT, please have a try, thanks !!!!
AND you can SCAN this QR image to download it,
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I updated my rating your app in the store now that it's updated. And your app is 20kb after install which is still smaller than the first working app that was posted.

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Does app ops make any difference?
I tried to play around with permissions location and keep awake to reduce wake locks but with no luck at all. To test I removed permissions for camera and sound recording for fb messenger but I could still take a picture or record voice in the fb messenger app. Shouldn't it get a FC when the permissions in lacking?
I'm on Nexus 4 KitKat btw.

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Zinken said:
Does app ops make any difference?
I tried to play around with permissions location and keep awake to reduce wake locks but with no luck at all. To test I removed permissions for camera and sound recording for fb messenger but I could still take a picture or record voice in the fb messenger app. Shouldn't it get a FC when the permissions in lacking?
I'm on Nexus 4 KitKat btw.
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I tried the same with facebook messenger and I get the same result as you. Weird thing is it still says "never used" for camera. But I do have noticed a difference for "keep awake". I had a lot of battery drainage, especially for android system, and after I disabled keep awake in app ops it stopped. I haven't read much about what app ops is supposed to do. A theory is that the permissions only is about non active usage, i.e. not allowing apps to do stuff "behind our back" so to speak.

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mertzi said:
I tried the same with facebook messenger and I get the same result as you. Weird thing is it still says "never used" for camera. But I do have noticed a difference for "keep awake". I had a lot of battery drainage, especially for android system, and after I disabled keep awake in app ops it stopped. I haven't read much about what app ops is supposed to do. A theory is that the permissions only is about non active usage, i.e. not allowing apps to do stuff "behind our back" so to speak.
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OK, so I'm not alone. Will test to change keep awake for android system, although it's android OS that is draining my battery mostly.
I wish I could agree with your theory but I don't see why fb messenger would need permission to use camera etc. when I'm not using the app. So there must be some other explanation why changing permissions doesn't seem to affect fb messenger.
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