[Q] Possible to downgrade after MJ7 update? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

Well I made a mess out of this situation... I was trying to do the OTA update for MJ7 but it was failing.. I seemed to be one of a very select few that got this issue but from researching, I found that I should be able to update via the USB cable on my PC and let the verizon update utility that installed on my PC find the update and install it. Fair enough, it came up and showed an update ready. After download it started installing, after about 5 minutes, it times out and gave me some error that I needed to connected to kies and do a recovery as the update failed. No matter what I did, restarting my phone and recovery mode, everything, it kept taking me to that message, unless I went into ODIN mode, that showed as it was supposed to...
to try and wrap this long story short, I tried many methods of recovering my phone and/or finish the update WITHOUT losing data. Everything I found led to a dead end and I found the only way was to run the recovery through the verizon utility app on the PC. It stated it would not keep data and basically do a factory reset in a nutshell.. No problem I thought, I was thinking it would put me back on my original OS version like MI7 or even ME7 and I could root and recover a lot of my data through Titanium Backup... i found there was no way to root MJ7 (yet) although after the fact I saw the article of attempting to keep it after update, but we know how that went... nonetheless.. the repair did reset my phone and it put the MJ7 (latest version) on the phone... great, no root method there... now i read and from what I understand if I try to flash back to a previous version it permanently logs it and marks this new KNOX marker that its been changed and "voids" the warranty and thus far there is no found way to keep that from happening nor reverse it after it does..
Question is... IS all my research correct as stated in above paragraph? OR is there a way I can safely flash back to a previous STOCK OS such as ME7 or MI7, be able to root the phone again, then go back on my merry way (with or without updating to MJ7 this time after I get my data back, hopefully?) If possible, I want to MAKE SURE I have the correct files or a link supplied to a existing post with download links with the right downloads I need to get. Hate to brick the phone again and go through all this waiting all over again. Any help appreciated!
Thanks,
David

Sorry, your correct, there is no way back and no way to root.

Ryno77 said:
Sorry, your correct, there is no way back and no way to root.
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So to confirm, even if I were to ODIN my way back to a older stock image like ME7 or MI7, what exactly would occur then? Would it work but tick that KNOX 0x0 to 0x1 thus "voiding" warranty but still take me back to previous version where I may root once again...?? Or...??

This has been said hundreds of times:
You can not move backwards. Once you're on a release, you can only install the same or later software.
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dpiffy said:
So to confirm, even if I were to ODIN my way back to a older stock image like ME7 or MI7, what exactly would occur then? Would it work but tick that KNOX 0x0 to 0x1 thus "voiding" warranty but still take me back to previous version where I may root once again...?? Or...??
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If you try to flash older software, it'll fail and softbrick your device. This will only allow download mode, requiring you to flash what's expected to recover your phone.
You'll only trip the Knox warranty flag if you try to flash an un-signed bootloader (and, I think, an unsigned recovery.)

k1mu said:
This has been said hundreds of times:
You can not move backwards. Once you're on a release, you can only install the same or later software.
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Well then please excuse me. As I said I researched this for a lengthy amount of time, I found mixed answers on this issue found some saying it is not possible but doesn't say why (much like you just did, not explain what happens as I asked, all due respect). I found places saying it is possible but this new "KNOX" thing on the latest version which I know VERY little about, that it would add a "count" or change the value but would work, of course many people don't want to do that with there not being a way to revert it back, from my understanding. Then some articles are handing out download links to restore/downgrade left and right. So again, excuse my confusion. Even after starting to write this article and the subject line I used produced possible matches to what I was about to post about, NONE and I repeat NONE of those options fit my question, so I don't need this "it has been said 'hundreds of times" when I just spend the greater part of my afternoon getting my phone updated then it failing and trying to do anything to get it back up and running one way or another. Not in the best of moods as I lost some precious data on my internal storage that otherwise would be safe and able to be restored from the titanium backup, which is proving useless right now. Nope, that is not your fault, but show a LITTLE more respect to this open community instead of being Mr. Moderator over there correcting me on things that aren't exactly made clear from all the other posts I have read today!

k1mu said:
This has been said hundreds of times:
You can not move backwards. Once you're on a release, you can only install the same or later software.
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If you try to flash older software, it'll fail and softbrick your device. This will only allow download mode, requiring you to flash what's expected to recover your phone.
You'll only trip the Knox warranty flag if you try to flash an un-signed bootloader (and, I think, an unsigned recovery.)
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Now that I see you evidently edited your last response, I saw after the fact your response you ended up making. Thank you for explaining as I only asked for in the first place.

dpiffy said:
Now that I see you evidently edited your last response, I saw after the fact your response you ended up making. Thank you for explaining as I only asked for in the first place.
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No editing, but there's been two of us replying. JFTR.
Hopefully we've saved you from a trip to softbrick city. :good:
(Edit: I see - the "post edited" - well, what happens is if you post more than once to a thread, the posts get combined where the subsequent posts are marked as edits. That's a bit misleading. THIS is an edit after-the-fact.)

Bummer
Got it. Well thanks...
It's not a question of if but when someone will figure all this out again... especially for a phone as the S4... i'd be more than happy to put forth a donation to further encourage someone to get things rooted AND unlocked again... I have a lot of stuff I'd pay decent money towards getting my data back through my Titanium Backup files... there is still some things I lost and can't even get back through the TB but anything is better than nothing... Where do you give donations through? I've always heard of the "bounty" -- do you have to be in any specific standing on these forums to give to this?

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Accept T-Mobile Update?

My Vibrant is telling me that T-Mobile has kindly sent me an update. I think it must be the GPS fix. It is rather persistent in that it won't let me choose when to install it. It will only allow me to delay for at most a day. This is quite annoying as I am preparing for a trip and really don't want to mess around with my phone right now.
I am running Vibrant9. Do I want to install this update? Is it gonna break anything? Thanks!
JJMT said:
My Vibrant is telling me that T-Mobile has kindly sent me an update. I think it must be the GPS fix. It is rather persistent in that it won't let me choose when to install it. It will only allow me to delay for at most a day. This is quite annoying as I am preparing for a trip and really don't want to mess around with my phone right now.
I am running Vibrant9. Do I want to install this update? Is it gonna break anything? Thanks!
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Shouldn't break anything. Most are still waiting for the update. Personally I was impatient and flashed it through ODIN last night.
OK. I accepted the update. Phone is now stuck on "Vibrant" at reboot. Sigh. Proceeding to trying to restore ROM.
JJMT said:
OK. I accepted the update. Phone is now stuck on "Vibrant" at reboot. Sigh. Proceeding to trying to restore ROM.
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Go to the Development section that are a few threads about this. I looks like anyone with a lag fix, or GPS fix (from JI2) where having this issue, plus I have seen stock people having it too.
Or you can go read my blog post here. the post tells the steps I took to get back the JFD, but you could flash JI6 instead.
you will need to flash JI6 with ODIN to restore, you can not just do a nandroid restore, it is an issue with the kernel and nandroid does not restore/backup the kernel.
*facepalm*@Samsung
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803492
Anderdroid said:
*facepalm*@Samsung
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It's not Samsung or T-Mobile.. its that the OP performed tweaks so the ROM wasn't a 100.00% version of Stock. Tweaks including lag fixes, GPS fix, etc can cause this.
Personally, I don't know why if you're performing tweaks on your phone and are on a stock ROM. If you're going to tweak your phone, go the full way and tweak everything.
This is why t-mobile had the G2 nand locked..... so this type of user error won't cost them millions, replacing phones that the user messed up with blind stupidity.... that's only for the ones under warranty, you can still call in a lost phone and get replacements..
dan0zone said:
This is why t-mobile had the G2 nand locked..... so this type of user error won't cost them millions, replacing phones that the user messed up with blind stupidity.... that's only for the ones under warranty, you can still call in a lost phone and get replacements..
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So now instead, they get flooded with returns because the phone isn't what people expected.
zephiK said:
It's not Samsung or T-Mobile.. its that the OP performed tweaks so the ROM wasn't a 100.00% version of Stock. Tweaks including lag fixes, GPS fix, etc can cause this.
Personally, I don't know why if you're performing tweaks on your phone and are on a stock ROM. If you're going to tweak your phone, go the full way and tweak everything.
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That's not true, it is Samsung/T-Mobile fault. I know 3 people with 100% stock, unrooted, vibrants, 2 of them got stuck when they updated. the t-mobile forums filled with stock users with their phone stuck at the vibrant screen as well.
camalot said:
That's not true, it is Samsung/T-Mobile fault. I know 3 people with 100% stock, unrooted, vibrants, 2 of them got stuck when they updated. the t-mobile forums filled with stock users with their phone stuck at the vibrant screen as well.
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And what are the chances of this?
Everybody lies.. especially when they're desperate and unwilling to accept the fact that they modified their phone. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't lie to T-Mobile and say that they didn't modify their phones if its "bricked." Because it is not bricked, all it takes is download mode and Odin. There are threads out there that break down on how to use Odin, it's not that difficult to do.
This is why I don't endorse "One Click" anything unless it is a long process. Sure, it makes everything easier but it makes people not think about what they're doing before they do it. Before one clicking, rooting was so simple, put something on your internal sd and boot into recovery and hit reinstall packages. If something like that is too difficult then they shouldn't be doing any modifications in the first place unless they understanding what they're doing.
The T-Mobile forum is not a valid source because there is no concrete proof that they didn't root their phone and modified something. Even rooting and removing bloatware then removing access to root would cause this.
Edit: Looking at the OP's recent posts.. he did indeed run a custom ROM but has possibly did some tweaking after reverting back to stock?
zephiK said:
And what are the chances of this?
Everybody lies.. especially when they're desperate and unwilling to accept the fact that they modified their phone. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't lie to T-Mobile and say that they didn't modify their phones if its "bricked." Because it is not bricked, all it takes is download mode and Odin. There are threads out there that break down on how to use Odin, it's not that difficult to do.
This is why I don't endorse "One Click" anything unless it is a long process. Sure, it makes everything easier but it makes people not think about what they're doing before they do it. Before one clicking, rooting was so simple, put something on your internal sd and boot into recovery and hit reinstall packages. If something like that is too difficult then they shouldn't be doing any modifications in the first place unless they understanding what they're doing.
The T-Mobile forum is not a valid source because there is no concrete proof that they didn't root their phone and modified something. Even rooting and removing bloatware then removing access to root would cause this.
Edit: Looking at the OP's recent posts.. he did indeed run a custom ROM but has possibly did some tweaking after reverting back to stock?
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Well, I know the 2 people that updated stock and got stuck at the vibrant screen were 100% stock because they both called me on what they need to do. one came over and I fixed it with ODIN back to stock (JI6) and the other just said he'd call TMO and get a replacement. they dont even know what rooting is, or that there is a site like that that they can get files to do "one click root"
OK. I'm the OP and I'm back. I was traveling today (with a phone flashed back to stock - that's as far as I got before getting kicked out of the hotel). I've now got the ROM restored and I'm where I was before trying to install the update.
My question is this (probably simple): my phone still wants to do the update. How do I make it go away? I can't install it, and I don't want to have to postpone it every day. Is there a cache I can clear or something?
You could just update it through Odin. I'm on stock with root and JAC's oc/uv kernel and the OTA failed but Odin worked perfectly.
Yes, I will try to flash it with odin when I have the time and interest, but for now I have neither, and I just want the phone to stop bugging me. Ideas?
JJMT said:
Yes, I will try to flash it with odin when I have the time and interest, but for now I have neither, and I just want the phone to stop bugging me. Ideas?
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It will only stop once you are on JI6
camalot said:
It will only stop once you are on JI6
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OK. I guess I will have to try to push the update through odin. Can someone point me to a link to the files?
I'm kind of irritated by this whole thing. I'm pleased with tmo for pushing the update out, but I mean, really, even Windows allows you to decline to install an update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798125
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798125
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Thanks for the link. It really looks to me that I'm going to need to flash to a stock ROM before flashing JI6. That, as they say, is a bummer.
As I am actually quite content at the moment with Vibrant9, it really seems to me that it would be easier to somehow remove whatever it is on my phone that is requesting that I update. Presumably there is an update.zip file sitting somewhere, that will be copied into sdcard before the updater involves reboot recovery. Any ideas where to look?
I would really rather not do any further flashing until is an official Froyo to flash to.
JWhipple said:
So now instead, they get flooded with returns because the phone isn't what people expected.
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Flooded with returns by morons who think they are smart.

[Q] unroot for OTA???

I've rooted my GT 10.1 but I have two questions that I can't find the answer.
1. Has anyone discovered how to unroot back to stock?
2. If rooted, will I be able to get the OTA of touchwiz by checking for updates under settings?
PS I flashed the TouchWiz UX found in this forum. Got to say it is really nice and I can't wait to get the version from Sammy. I then restored a backup using Rom Manager and restored fine except when checking for software updates. It used to say no update available, but today it says failed to connect to servers. Anyone else getting this error?
I guess that is actually 3 questions.
Thanks
1. Unrooting is pretty simple. Just flash the 3.1 OTA in the dev forum, after doing a full wipe. If you feel the need to go back to full stock, you'll also want to nvflash back to the original retail recovery, which you undoubtedly saved when you first rooted.
2. No one knows yet, but rest assured, within a day (less probably) of the update being released, it'll be available here as a rooted flashable ROM. If you learn one thing from your time on XDA, it should be "never accept an OTA update." Let the devs pull it apart and repackage it in a nice root-safe download.
Undoubtedly! (I wish) I wasn't planning to root but while playing with Odin, I thought I was locked at the downloading screen while testing odin. (Didn't hold down the power button long enough to shut off tab) I thought my only solution was to continue and root. No problems rooting, it was easy. I just wanted to make sure I get the TouchWiz update. Now I learned my lesson I will never do an OTA update.
Glad you told me that, otherwise I probably would have screwed up my GT. I don't know how I missed the post about backing up the stock image first. I try to read a lot of posts (heck I even use the search box) before trying something new. Anyway, I'm sure it is posted in the forums somewhere if I need to find it.
Thanks!
pmsrefugee said:
Glad you told me that, otherwise I probably would have screwed up my GT.
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It's not so much that you'll screw up your device by accepting an OTA, but rather that you might lose root and/or your custom recovery (perhaps permanently). Nevertheless, there are some cases of OTAs screwing up devices when accepted over non-stock installs, so IMHO its always best to wait for a flashable ROM.
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I don't know how I missed the post about backing up the stock image first. I try to read a lot of posts (heck I even use the search box) before trying something new. Anyway, I'm sure it is posted in the forums somewhere if I need to find it.
Thanks!
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Yes, I believe the stock retail recovery is posted in the CWM recovery download package here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130574. You'll note that Step 3 is where you were advised to backup your original stock recovery, although the step is (correctly) noted as optional. No big deal, in any event. Glad I could help.

[Q] Can't believe I'm that guy...

My Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 (Model # SCH-I545) is stuck at an error screen with a yellow triangle in the middle and a picture of a phone on the left and a picture of a computer on the right. It also reads: "Firmware upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies & try again."
I JUST purchased this phone and the latest update was installed. I attempted to root the phone but after researching I found there is no current solution. I searched more and found a thread (that i can't post because I am a noob): I followed the instructions hoping to remove the update and return to stock, however the process did not work and Odin failed. Even though Odin was through, my phone still showed a line like it was downloading. I tried everything to reboot my phone, but could not find a way to do it, so I pulled the battery. Now, I cannot get past this screen. Is there anything I can do to fix this awesome blunder?
P.S. I am prepared for the scoldings I plan on getting...
I literally just posted the same question. Any help would be appreciated if you can figure it out. Ill return the favor if i can get any information :good:
If you took the latest update I'm not sure what the answer is because I haven't been willing to take the update.
If you were in mdk before the yellow triangle then all you have to do is Odin the mdk kernel.
I'd imagine if you are on the latest then odining the latest would take care of it also but again, I won't take the latest so I can't say for sure
sent from my blu vzw gs4
Thanks Jakemkv, I will update you as I get more info. I will also be looking at your thread, you can bet.
Dubbsy, where can I find that new mdk Kernel?
richardawood said:
Thanks Jakemkv, I will update you as I get more info. I will also be looking at your thread, you can bet.
Dubbsy, where can I find that new mdk Kernel?
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Im on a search for the updated kernel as well. At least there is someone in the same boat as i am.
richardawood said:
My Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 (Model # SCH-I545) is stuck at an error screen with a yellow triangle in the middle and a picture of a phone on the left and a picture of a computer on the right. It also reads: "Firmware upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies & try again."
I JUST purchased this phone and the latest update was installed. I attempted to root the phone but after researching I found there is no current solution. I searched more and found a thread (that i can't post because I am a noob): I followed the instructions hoping to remove the update and return to stock, however the process did not work and Odin failed. Even though Odin was through, my phone still showed a line like it was downloading. I tried everything to reboot my phone, but could not find a way to do it, so I pulled the battery. Now, I cannot get past this screen. Is there anything I can do to fix this awesome blunder?
P.S. I am prepared for the scoldings I plan on getting...
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If the phone was running ME7 then you can ONLY flash ME7 again (at least right now).
Grab the image from this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357235
and flash it using Odin.
Thank You
That worked great! I am back up in running and waiting patiently w/ the rest of us that updated... THANK YOU!!!!!! :highfive:
Thanks
I can't thank you enough. The S4 is my first Android phone and after 3 weeks, the USB connection on the phone broke and I finally got my new one today. While I was setting up SuperSU/Titanium Backup/ROM Manager, I guess the phone downloaded the ME7 update in the background and I told it to install (stupid me). This will teach me from rushing to get my phone back to the state it was in. (Not that I can do that now because I need SuperSU before I can install ROM Manager). Hopefully once I can get ROM Manager back, I can restore my MDK backup with all my custom settings and apps. I think I will make a visit to the VZ store tomorrow and see if they can revert back to the MDK version. I will make up some lame excuse of why I don't want to be on this new release.
This leads to my question of, is there a way to disable or remove the apk file that controls the software updates?
Thanks again for saving my life!!!
Once you take me7 update theres no going back unless you get a different phone. When someone gets the me7 ota rooted you can rename/remove sdm.apk and itll keep your phone from downloading new updates. I would say freeze as well but some users reported their phones updating even with it froze. When the me7 bootloader/recovery situation gets resolved there wont be much reason to go back to mdk anyway since people will start creating roms with it as the base.
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hexitnow said:
Once you take me7 update theres no going back unless you get a different phone. When someone gets the me7 ota rooted you can rename/remove sdm.apk and itll keep your phone from downloading new updates. I would say freeze as well but some users reported their phones updating even with it froze. When the me7 bootloader/recovery situation gets resolved there wont be much reason to go back to mdk anyway since people will start creating roms with it as the base.
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Thanks for the information about the sdm.apk. When I debloated my phone I used the adb shell to remove most of the *.apk packages that I did not want. This was of course after I took a full Titanium Backup and ROM Backup.
Sounds good and I will not waste my time going to Verizon today.
You make a really good point about not going back to the mdk, but rather move forward with the technology and updates. This leads me to some more questions once I have root again:
1. Is my mdk rom backup totally useless at this point?
2. If yes to 1, since my mdk rom contained all my apps/customized settings, do I have to manually download everything and reconfigure?
3. If no to 2, how would I go about getting the app/customized settings back, Titanium Backup?
4. If yes to 2, if I go about downloading everything manually and configuring, will the new root remove all these settings?
I am sure I will have more questions so thanks in advanced
PS: I think I figured out what caused my USB port to stop working. I take my phone with me when I run so I think some sweat got in from my arm band and corroded the connections. I tried cleaning them with rubbing alcohol and compressed air, but still no dice. If connected to a computer or wall charger, it will charge, but a computer will not detected it. So my guess is there is damage to the board allowing whatever communication is needed to work with a computer.

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Cant get PC to read watch in step 10 of flashing
I have an Omate 1/8 which arrived yesterday. I factory reset it. I got through steps 1-9 of the recent Rom update. When I tried 10, to connect my watch to my PC, it recognized a "removable disc G:" and told me to insert a disk, but it didn't/couldn't read the watch contents.
(The setup file in step 2 did properly set up according to my pc.)
Anyone able to suggest what I do?
Tom19146 said:
I have an Omate 1/8 which arrived yesterday. I factory reset it. I got through steps 1-9 of the recent Rom update. When I tried 10, to connect my watch to my PC, it recognized a "removable disc G:" and told me to insert a disk, but it didn't/couldn't read the watch contents.
(The setup file in step 2 did properly set up according to my pc.)
Anyone able to suggest what I do?
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Are you trying to flash the ROM or trying to run the patch? They are two different things. This thread is for the Patch.
No root
Thanks for all your work so far on the x201! Having an issue of no root on the watch...
1. x201 Omate Truesmart
2. Omate_Truesmart_20140120.154604_v2.0
3. Not root after flashing 1.0.2 patch
4. Reverted back to stock, reflashed. Attempted the 1.0.1 version. Security Settings and SU say no root ("There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!")
urmcgwy said:
Thanks for all your work so far on the x201! Having an issue of no root on the watch...
1. x201 Omate Truesmart
2. Omate_Truesmart_20140120.154604_v2.0
3. Not root after flashing 1.0.2 patch
4. Reverted back to stock, reflashed. Attempted the 1.0.1 version. Security Settings and SU say no root ("There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!")
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What OS?
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What model?
Lokifish Marz said:
What OS?
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Sorry Win7 x64
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urmcgwy said:
Sorry Win7 x64
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And I have no idea why I wrote Win7.... its Win8.1 x64 =P
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urmcgwy said:
Sorry Win7 x64
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And I have no idea why I wrote Win7.... its Win8.1 x64 =P
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Omate "Developer Edition" 1/8
urmcgwy said:
Sorry Win7 x64
And I have no idea why I wrote Win7.... its Win8.1 x64
Omate "Developer Edition" 1/8
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Is ADB installed?
Did you disable Quickboot?
Did you enable USB Debugging?
Did the Patch give any errors when you ran it?
Just hard wiped my dev unit, flashed stock Jan20 and ran the Patch v1.0.2. The only thing I had happen was SuperSU tell me the su binary needed to be updated. I am curious as you mention trying to install SuperSU, it's preinstalled by the Patch and should not have to be installed by the user.
Lokifish Marz said:
Is ADB installed?
Did you disable Quickboot?
Did you enable USB Debugging?
Did the Patch give any errors when you ran it?
Just hard wiped my dev unit, flashed stock Jan20 and ran the Patch v1.0.2. The only thing I had happen was SuperSU tell me the su binary needed to be updated. I am curious as you mention trying to install SuperSU, it's preinstalled by the Patch and should not have to be installed by the user.
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I did all of that according to your instructions and didn't get any errors. Decided to wipe and return to stock, but got an error during flashing (status bar went to 100% really quick and an error popped up around 13 seconds). Watch won't respond to anything including plugging it into a wall charger. Will try with another computer to see if that helps, and then try pulling the battery if that doesn't work. Any advice to unbrick?
urmcgwy said:
I did all of that according to your instructions and didn't get any errors. Decided to wipe and return to stock, but got an error during flashing (status bar went to 100% really quick and an error popped up around 13 seconds). Watch won't respond to anything including plugging it into a wall charger. Will try with another computer to see if that helps, and then try pulling the battery if that doesn't work. Any advice to unbrick?
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Those errors are really important. Knowing what the error and what color the was was tells me a lot of things. As far as the watch being unresponsive, battery pull or wait a few hours for the battery to die. If you don't want ot void the warranty I suggest waiting for the battery to die.
Something is not right then because if SuperSU (or any file file that matter) was not installed, the script would have given an error.
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I don't want to seem like I'm not trying to help but I run the script 20-30 times before a release and use it about 10-15 times a day on a regular basis. In fact I use a slightly modified version to cut down on dev time.
Lokifish Marz said:
Those errors are really important. Knowing what the error and what color the was was tells me a lot of things. As far as the watch being unresponsive, battery pull or wait a few hours for the battery to die. If you don't want ot void the warranty I suggest waiting for the battery to die.
Something is not right then because if SuperSU (or any file file that matter) was not installed, the script would have given an error.
EDIT:
I don't want to seem like I'm not trying to help but I run the script 20-30 times before a release and use it about 10-15 times a day on a regular basis. In fact I use a slightly modified version to cut down on dev time.
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Sounds good! SuperSU was installed, it just said the binaries weren't installed. I took off the screw covers for the waterproofing warranty, but one of the screws was stripped, so I think I'm out of luck...the watch is off so I don't think the battery will even drain. I guess it is time to see what Omate customer service is made of.
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Sounds good! SuperSU was installed, it just said the binaries weren't installed. I took off the screw covers for the waterproofing warranty, but one of the screws was stripped, so I think I'm out of luck...the watch is off so I don't think the battery will even drain. I guess it is time to see what Omate customer service is made of.
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Unless you pull the battery, the watch may appear to be off but stuck on bootloader mode. It's happened to me a couple times as well.
If yours is anything like mine, the placement screws are better than the ones in the TS.
Lokifish Marz said:
Unless you pull the battery, the watch may appear to be off but stuck on bootloader mode. It's happened to me a couple times as well.
If yours is anything like mine, the placement screws are better than the ones in the TS.
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Thanks for all the help! I'll just wait until tomorrow to see if the watch dies on me and see what Omate has to say. Really appreciate the quick responses!
I just flashed back to stock, what next is needed?
Following Lokifish's very helpful video, I have finally succeeded in flashing back to stock. Do I need now to do a security patch, or was that included in the stock file I'd have used? Also, how might I obtain some of the useful additions that Loki installed in Imperium, working from stock?
Thanks for all your help!
Tom
Tom19146 said:
Following Lokifish's very helpful video, I have finally succeeded in flashing back to stock. Do I need now to do a security patch, or was that included in the stock file I'd have used? Also, how might I obtain some of the useful additions that Loki installed in Imperium, working from stock?
Thanks for all your help!
Tom
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If you flashed back to stock then none of the improvements listed in the OP will be found on your device. Stock is exactly that, stock with no changes at all.
Except for some build.prop edits, removing preinstalled apps like FB and a different launcher, there is no difference between the patch and the ROM. I in fact use a slightly modified version of the Patch myself to build the test builds of the ROM.
Lokifish Marz said:
If you flashed back to stock then none of the improvements listed in the OP will be found on your device. Stock is exactly that, stock with no changes at all.
Except for some build.prop edits, removing preinstalled apps like FB and a different launcher, there is no difference between the patch and the ROM. I in fact use a slightly modified version of the Patch myself to build the test builds of the ROM.
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I am not sure if I understood. Weren't there some security issues you helped address,( before Imperium), that were recommended to add to the stock rom?
Are you saying if I do this patch, I will basically have the Rom plus some adjustments? Are these security related or just improvements, tweaks and some helpful programs? Either way, I think I will prefer this to the basic stock. (I took your reply to suggest there might be no need to do the patch, that it is useful to you but not so necessary...)
Tom
Oh, by the way, for us true newbies, it might be helpful to offer some advice how best to negotiate the downloads at host-dev... I found myself in a hellish loop of websites offering that I join for free but then never giving a way to get past the "upgrade to premium" offers. In the end, I downloaded iLivid download manager and got it to work.
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I am not sure if I understood. Weren't there some security issues you helped address,( before Imperium), that were recommended to add to the stock rom?
Are you saying if I do this patch, I will basically have the Rom plus some adjustments? Are these security related or just improvements, tweaks and some helpful programs? Either way, I think I will prefer this to the basic stock. (I took your reply to suggest there might be no need to do the patch, that it is useful to you but not so necessary...)
Tom
Oh, by the way, for us true newbies, it might be helpful to offer some advice how best to negotiate the downloads at host-dev... I found myself in a hellish loop of websites offering that I join for free but then never giving a way to get past the "upgrade to premium" offers. In the end, I downloaded iLivid download manager and got it to work.
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Fixes have not made it to official firmware yet.
Rom = Patch + extras
Use an adblocker and only the actual download button will be seen.
Thanks. All working with the patch now.
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I successfully downloaded the patch. I was downloading apps and after downloading cal from the Omate store, it froze. I cannot shut the phone off. Neither button. Touch screen unresponsive. Is there any other way to reboot things than to take the battery out? Any reset pin hole or such?
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Thanks. All working with the patch now.
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I successfully downloaded the patch. I was downloading apps and after downloading cal from the Omate store, it froze. I cannot shut the phone off. Neither button. Touch screen unresponsive. Is there any other way to reboot things than to take the battery out? Any reset pin hole or such?
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Iv'e had that happen to me a couple of times even when on stock w no patch. Short of pulling the battery you have to wait for the battery to die.
Omate TS slow and built-in memory full
Hi all, hopefully this time I am posting in the right place. After flashing the patch my TS seems to be slower and seems to ignore storing things on the sd card. The TS memory now has only 228mb free and the SD card is all free (this is set up as the default storage). Has anybody come across a similar situation (TS slow and memory full) and how could I overcome that? Many thanks in advance (please be patient, I am not an expert)!

No recovery problem. Please help

A couple days ago I got a g3. Immediately I let it to the Ota updates not thinking that perhaps thes latest might root able.
I found one thread with instructions to downgrade, root, and then flash 6.0. Didn't work. The lg flash tool and LG up never worked. It always said unknown device.
I found the king root app. It rooted my stock MM temporarily. So I used twrp manager to try and flash twrp. The end result was a black screen with the led blinking. I could not boot into any recovery.
So then I followed guides to uunbrick and return to stock but no success. The lg pc tool didn't recognize/connect to my phone. However I got adb working. At any I, I still download the LG drivers again, different versions of lg tool and downloaded firmware from different sources. Same result, didn't flash and left with blank recovery.
So then I thought twrp could be flashed with fast boot. Found a guide that had me delete download mode to allow access to fast boot.
I was able to get into fast boot fine but wasn't able to flash a recovery or any image. And now I can't figure out how to get download mode back. The download mode image is backed up on SD card but I can't flash it.
Otherwise the phone works fine. I can't do a factory reset or get into any recovery.
I believe I deleted the recovery partition at some point.
Now I doubt care about root but I do care if I have the ability to factory reset.
Any help? I've looked at many guides on unbrickibg, flashing and so forth. If you have advice please be specific.
Only other thing to mention is I am using a Windows 10 laptop when a computer is needed.
Thanks for the help.
Oh boy. I apologize that I probably don't have anything useful to suggest. Almost anything I would think of requires Download mode.
When you plug the phone into the PC, what does it show up as in Windows' Device Manager in the Port section? "LGE..." something or "QHSUSB_BULK 9008"? If the latter, you might be able to use special drivers and BoardDiag for Windows to recover - it'll use the 10B TOT so have that on hand if that's the case, plus Google "QHSUSB_BULK" to find the program, drivers and instructions.
If it's not in QHSUSB_BULK 9008 mode, you may be able to force it into that mode. I've never had to, but there's a thread in the General section for that. I think it's the one that mentions "hard brick" and/or "test point", and requires at least a very slight disassembly of the back of the phone, and shorting two specific electrical contacts.
Thanks for your input. I will look into the things you suggested and report my findings. Taking the phone apart and shorting out wires seems dangerous.
Sure man, good luck! I notice you have two threads going on, the other about a G3 you're going to get this week? Just confirming that either you're dealing with two separate G3s or your replacing this one with the other one.
I haven't activated my vs985k with the carrier yet, as I've been thinking that I should root it first to avoid another OTA messing things up even more than is the case with 57A.
I've been collecting the software tools to run on my laptop, but don't have it all lined up yet.
Anyway the idea has crossed my mind that when I activate a rooted phone that they might refuse to activate a rooted phone. So a catch 22 situation if that's the case.
Any thoughts or stories out there about this kind of situation?
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SofaSpud said:
I haven't activated my vs985k with the carrier yet, as I've been thinking that I should root it first to avoid another OTA messing things up even more than is the case with 57A.
I've been collecting the software tools to run on my laptop, but don't have it all lined up yet.
Anyway the idea has crossed my mind that when I activate a rooted phone that they might refuse to activate a rooted phone. So a catch 22 situation if that's the case.
Any thoughts or stories out there about this kind of situation?
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Edit: 47A, not 57A!
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Any thoughts or stories out there about this kind of situation?
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I haven't heard one way or the other. I doubt if you'd have trouble activating while rooted, but it's been almost two years since my wife and I activated our G3s and my VK810 4G LG G Pad 8.3, and they were all activated while 100% stock.

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