http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...itkat-release-date-when-can-i-get-it--1196266
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The key there is the uncertain date. I wish they could feel that it is safe to give some kind of target date with the understanding that it might be missed. Or at least give out status updates. Waiting in the dark sucks.
It was pretty obvious we were going to get KitKat. The real question had to do with the timeframe which is still up in the air.
When it comes to LG, nothing was certain. LG has a reputation for never updating their devices, so this confirmation that there will be an update, is relieving.
For example, the LG Optimus G (which the G2 replaced) still runs Android 4.1, and never got an update from its release (and probably never will get an update). Until the G2, LG was under the assumption that cellular phones should never be software updated.
And those of us with Verizon will have to wait for Verizon to approve it for their device which adds time
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Noam23 said:
When it comes to LG, nothing was certain. LG has a reputation for never updating their devices, so this confirmation that there will be an update, is relieving.
For example, the LG Optimus G (which the G2 replaced) still runs Android 4.1, and never got an update from its release (and probably never will get an update). Until the G2, LG was under the assumption that cellular phones should never be software updated.
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My wifes Samsung Note 2 and my Note 10.1 are still on 4.1, so its not just LG.
The Note line is problematic because of the frigging pen. There are too many modification needed.
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its not just the pen, its android itself, its not doable all these new devices and support them
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Was the Optimus G LG UI (what's it called again?) more bloated/heavy?
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Bigralphn said:
And those of us with Verizon will have to wait for Verizon to approve it for their device which adds time
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All the other carriers go through the same process.
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Seems like putting 4.4 to the g2 is harder than expected, haven't heard of anyone even getting close.
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The key there is the uncertain date. I wish they could feel that it is safe to give some kind of target date with the understanding that it might be missed. Or at least give out status updates. Waiting in the dark sucks.
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This site is saying that it could happen as early as November or December!
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/11/04/lg-g2-android-4-4-kitkat-update-confirmed/
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This site is saying that it could happen as early as November or December!
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/11/04/lg-g2-android-4-4-kitkat-update-confirmed/
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It will definitely not be in November in the USA even if the Europeans get it November because of the additional layer of BS which is the USA carriers touch on it and their bloatware. Even December seems like a stretch so my guess is that the USA versions will come at the very earliest January.
If you folks want to put any stock on what a french carrier says then buy all means just keep going on and on. Until LG releases something officially, this is all rumors and BS. If you want kitkat anytime soon, then you'll need to root and wait for a Rom to release a 4.4 version of their Rom.
By the way, that French site has updated their table. It now says "No Update Scheduled."
http://smartphones.sfr.fr/android/prochaines-mises-a-jour-smartphones-novembre-2013/
Or possibly, it says No Updates for the Optimus G and for the G2 it just says Scheduled.
We really just need an updated kernel. Once we have a good updated working kernel, copying the files over shouldn't be that hard.
LG was always bad at updating their equipment. This is my 2nd LG (non-nexus) device. We've come a long way since the LG G2x and I hope LG has learned lots of lessons. I grabbed the G2 with very high hopes that LG won't let me down again. It seems they are starting out VERY VERY well and lots of people are raving over the G2.
As long as they don't just quit on 4.4, I'll be happy. I have this phone for 2 years. Android 4.4 is the first step to take us into 1 year. Android 4.5/4.6 might just be minor updates but Android 5.0 will probably be a huge release. As long as LG can come through with 4.4 in a reasonable time frame and another major update in a year, I'll be super happy.
With LG making both the current Nexus device and one of the hottest non-nexus devices, this shouldn't be very hard, especially since they all share mostly the same hardware.
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We really just need an updated kernel. Once we have a good updated working kernel, copying the files over shouldn't be that hard.
LG was always bad at updating their equipment. This is my 2nd LG (non-nexus) device. We've come a long way since the LG G2x and I hope LG has learned lots of lessons. I grabbed the G2 with very high hopes that LG won't let me down again. It seems they are starting out VERY VERY well and lots of people are raving over the G2.
As long as they don't just quit on 4.4, I'll be happy. I have this phone for 2 years. Android 4.4 is the first step to take us into 1 year. Android 4.5/4.6 might just be minor updates but Android 5.0 will probably be a huge release. As long as LG can come through with 4.4 in a reasonable time frame and another major update in a year, I'll be super happy.
With LG making both the current Nexus device and one of the hottest non-nexus devices, this shouldn't be very hard, especially since they all share mostly the same hardware.
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Don't want to be the guy who hit the hammer.
But truth is truth.
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"Keep dreaming".
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Enjoy the cm.
NaveenKumarXDA said:
Don't want to be the guy who hit the hammer.
But truth is truth.
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"Keep dreaming".
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Enjoy the cm.
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Haha. LG already put an announcement out, except they gave that 'no date announced bit'. We'll see. G2 is a pretty big release. They're gonna have a tons of angry people if they don't come through.
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Haha. LG already put an announcement out, except they gave that 'no date announced bit'. We'll see. G2 is a pretty big release. They're gonna have a tons of angry people if they don't come through.
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Any link to this announcement? Dont get me wrong, I do believe in 4.4 for G2, OG and OG Pro, but havent seen any source from LG themselves.
I guess I assumed wrongly that they wouldn't be so dense as to not update their flagship phone. Guess I should have done more research. At the time I figured I'd root/ROM but having dropped the damn thing first week in I'm now too puckered up to do so for awhile, for sure.
I still can't believe how easily it cracked. Granted it was face down on sharp stones.
Not sure my point. On the one hand clearly the device should be updated and at least within a few months. On the other... I don't remember being promised anything. Unless Google is enforcing their proposed 18 month support guideline then we're at mercy of LG.
How much time should they get to announce some sort of plan? Seems like the ideal thing would be to be ready to announce soon after 4.4 was released. Is not like it was a secret to them when this would happen. It's a black mark on retail/normal Android process for the majority of users.
Yes, I'll end up installing a custom ROM. But I don't believe the b.s. about updates not being important to the average user. These guys just magically update their iOS devices? No, they're listening and they go into the settings to update...
/ramble off
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I'm in a bad mood, it looks like there won't be an official Gingerbread update for my P509. I'm now reconsidering Android in general. Read my rant here if you're interested:
Android Product Life Cycle, it's potential downfall?
Anyway, so what do you think based on specs and features, is Apple in good hands without Steve Jobs? I say yes.
It'd be cool if you could apply an avatar to Siri
2.3 is out for the Sprint version. It's ready but its t-mobiles decision when to release it. Gingerbread has been out for the international Optimus as well. For us t-mobile users we should just root and install mik's cm7 or any Rom u like. It was painless for me.
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2.3 is out for the Sprint version. It's ready but its t-mobiles decision when to release it. Gingerbread has been out for the international Optimus as well. For us t-mobile users we should just root and install mik's cm7 or any Rom u like. It was painless for me.
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LG forum mods don't believe it will be released for the Optimus T .
T-Mobile has made no promises.
The Optimus S release was so f**ked up that they pulled it on Sept. 28th
It's a mess and it ain't gonna happen.
Turducken said:
LG forum mods don't believe it will be released for the Optimus T .
T-Mobile has made no promises.
The Optimus S release was so f**ked up that they pulled it on Sept. 28th
It's a mess and it ain't gonna happen.
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LG promised all phones will receive a minimum of 1 version upgrade. Whether you will believe that or not idk. I'm running happy with mik's CM7 and I would never go back to stock. You should give it a shot. Stock Rom will not match the performance of this.
EDIT: I headed over to the Optimus S section on another forum and it seems ok. Some quirks and bugs, but seems usable.
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LG promised all phones will receive a minimum of 1 version upgrade. Whether you will believe that or not idk. I'm running happy with mik's CM7 and I would never go back to stock. You should give it a shot. Stock Rom will not match the performance of this.
EDIT: I headed over to the Optimus S section on another forum and it seems ok. Some quirks and bugs, but seems usable.
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As of Sept 8th US T-Mobile had not yet contacted LG to begin the process. I've done a fair bit of digging on this. I hope I'm wrong but I didn't just pull this out of my arse. It's all over the LG and US Tmo forums.
With regards to the Optimus S they wouldn't have pulled it if there weren't some serious issues.
I'm running CM7 and happy with it but I don't recall seeing a disclaimer saying "update it yourself"
P.S. The 3GS released in June of 2009 and was just updated to iOS 5, now that's service
Turducken said:
As of Sept 8th US T-Mobile had not yet contacted LG to begin the process. I've done a fair bit of digging on this. I hope I'm wrong but I didn't just pull this out of my arse. It's all over the LG and US Tmo forums.
With regards to the Optimus S they wouldn't have pulled it if there weren't some serious issues.
I'm running CM7 and happy with it but I don't recall seeing a disclaimer saying "update it yourself"
P.S. The 3GS released in June of 2009 and was just updated to iOS 5, now that's service
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Updates for Android are slow and it's pretty obvious. Comparing android updates to Apple is not the right thing. Apple just has to look after a few devices. Iphone 3/GS/4/4S. While there are hundreds of android devices. Even though devices are split between manufacturers like Samsung/HTC/LG they still have 10-30 devices to look after and high end devices will always be their top priority. It's a bummer, but we will just have to deal with it until Google comes up with something and they have taken this into account. They have said publicly that they know this is a major problem with Android and they are looking for ways to fix this. Lucky almost all high end phones have great developer support so we don't have to wait for the manufacturer.
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Updates for Android are slow and it's pretty obvious. Comparing android updates to Apple is not the right thing. Apple just has to look after a few devices. Iphone 3/GS/4/4S. While there are hundreds of android devices. Even though devices are split between manufacturers like Samsung/HTC/LG they still have 10-30 devices to look after and high end devices will always be their top priority. It's a bummer, but we will just have to deal with it until Google comes up with something and they have taken this into account. They have said publicly that know this is a major problem with Android and they are looking for ways to fix this. Lucky almost all high end phones have great developer support so we don't have to wait for the manufacturer.
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Google claiming ignorance as their defense, that's rich.
High end phones get great treatment, somebody file a lawsuit, please! Google will continue to drag their feet until they're forced to change. That's just how business works these days.
Anyway, here's to hoping............
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Google claiming ignorance as their defense, that's rich.
High end phones get great treatment, somebody file a lawsuit, please! Google will continue to drag their feet until they're forced to change. That's just how business works these days.
Anyway, here's to hoping............
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It's a wise decision to invest into a higher end phone. Don't expect to get the same treatment when you got a lower end device because sadly things don't work that way. Phones like the Optimus/Galaxy Ace/Mini/Gio are pretty much not even budget phones anymore. They are at the bottom of the bottom. The mid-range phones now are the low end phones now. Things are shifting and it would be a waste of time for them to get in the trouble of working on a phone that is obsolete.
Feeshie said:
2.3 is out for the Sprint version. It's ready but its t-mobiles decision when to release it. Gingerbread has been out for the international Optimus as well. For us t-mobile users we should just root and install mik's cm7 or any Rom u like. It was painless for me.
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I've install different roms, on my Optimus T and i have the same issues with all of them, the MMS come to small and i refuse to use the GO sms app so i'm stuck on stock! was really hopping on the Gingerbread version!
Turducken said:
Google claiming ignorance as their defense, that's rich.
High end phones get great treatment, somebody file a lawsuit, please! Google will continue to drag their feet until they're forced to change. That's just how business works these days.
Anyway, here's to hoping............
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Anyway, why bother waiting for LG stock ****, LG gingerbread really crap on Optimus One, with so many bugs.
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Anyway, why bother waiting for LG stock ****, LG gingerbread really crap on Optimus One, with so many bugs.
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I agree my point exactly. Where's the QC? Google cashed in by not holding it's partners responsible. They had the power to do it right, and CHOSE not to. This isn't an accident.
Us XDA members will work it out but the other 90% of users are staring at a ****ty phone, saying "I think I'll by an iPhone next time". I've heard way too many times from noob friends of mine. In fact, I don't even recommend Android to friends anymore.
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I agree my point exactly. Where's the QC? Google cashed in by not holding it's partners responsible. They had the power to do it right, and CHOSE not to. This isn't an accident.
Us XDA members will work it out but the other 90% of users are staring at a ****ty phone, saying "I think I'll by an iPhone next time". I've heard way too many times from noob friends of mine. In fact, I don't even recommend Android to friends anymore.
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You don't have to buy LG if your not satisfied with their products and their quality. In the end, if you buy a low end phone you get what you paid for. TBH This phone without the great developers we have would be a POS.
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You don't have to buy LG if your not satisfied with their products and their quality. In the end, if you buy a low end phone you get what you paid for.
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You clearly didn't read the link in my first post did you? It's an OS and updates include security patches. These are necessary not optional! IMO my 2 year contract has been breached by TMO LG or Google (let the lawyers figure it out)
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TBH This phone without the great developers we have would be a POS.
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Amen but it's not just this phone it's ALOT of them.
no, thanks
Turducken said:
Us XDA members will work it out but the other 90% of users are staring at a ****ty phone, saying "I think I'll by an iPhone next time". I've heard way too many times from noob friends of mine. In fact, I don't even recommend Android to friends anymore.
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You're making me laugh.
Let me see, you're comparing Android on a $200 max phone with an iPhone? A low-end phone will never provide the real Android experience.
I was looking at my O1 and I said "I think I'll buy a better droid next time, this one is just offering me a small taste of what Android can do". So I did; I bought a better, dual-core, 4.3" phone. Trust me, daily use of Android on a premium phone can't be compared to daily use on a cheap one.
So don't compare your O1 to an iPhone. Try and compare a GS2, Arc S, Sensation, Droid Bionic, Nexus etc to an iPhone and then see if the iPhone's really worth it.
might get it
or stick to android
off course buy high end android phone
such like not sgs 2, sensation / sensation xe / evo 3d and other
22VIN...
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are
RIGHT!
I don't understand people comparing a $200- old phone to a $700+ fresh-tech phone...
From my point of view iPhone and all other closed phones may rests on the shelves forever, coz are too performance/price unbalanced.
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orsonbear said:
22VIN...
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I don't understand people comparing a $200- old phone to a $700+ fresh-tech phone...
From my point of view iPhone and all other closed phones may rests on the shelves forever, coz are too performance/price unbalanced.
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Hardware and Software are different.
What's so hard to understand about wanting a well defined Product LifeCycle?
Buy a $300 Windows Home Laptop and buy a $2000 Windows Professional despktop. The SOFTWARE Product Lifecycle is the same.
No wonder Google is dragging it's feet with regards to this fragmentation. It's customers have been brainwashed. I thought Android users were supposed to be the smart ones... do yourselves a favor and THINK.
P.S. a iPhone 4S is $99 with contract in the US.
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I went down to the Apple Store this morning and played with one... It's pretty nice. I'm not getting one, I'm just pissed at Google (we all should be).
Lg is dragging its feet on getting KITKAT out to the owners of simfree International versions of the LG G2...it seems all to familiar to owners of earlier promising LG handsets. KitKat does exist or our phones....so why do we not have it?
LG has THE WORST reputation for updates and it is proving that this reputation is deserved. I really do not understand why a company that is leading edge in all areas of Android development does not seem to understand that late deployment of updates HARMS its reputation and loose sales!
The KitKat firmware is there, put it on the servers!!!!!
People choose to trust LG by buying the phone simfree, so reward us with the quickest updates!
This Phone has done much to restore faith in LG and this dilly dallying is damaging the image turn around the G2 allowed.
What do other readers think? Is LG again reverting to type and deliberately avoiding updating Phones? LG works so closely with Google at the moment that there really is no excuse for being so late....Q1 is rapidly ending and they NEED to get this sorted TODAY!
Sorry to burst your bubble but you'll be seriously disappointed with Kit Kat. It's not some groundbreaking update. TBH, it's just the need to have the latest and greatest, objectively this phone runs just as great with JB as it does with KK. Whoever says differently is fooling himself.
So sit back, relax, enjoy probably the best phone out there and stop counting down the days.
What i want to know is how you can put a [Q] before your thread title and think it's still ok to post in General and not you know... Questions and Answers section?!
But to answer your question the update is coming you can do it manually or just wait the real problem is the awful audio bug in Kitkat and the lack of an official response on what they are doing about it.
oke! that is probably very good advice. So i will take it. Thank you for the reply, appreciated.
What about his spelling? Any mistakes?
I agree I'm not impressed with lg, the phone is great but god this update is dragging ?
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What about his spelling? Any mistakes?
I agree I'm not impressed with lg, the phone is great but god this update is dragging ?
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Do it manually then. It won't be any different to what gets pushed out OTA and you don't lose anything by doing it manually either keeps apps etc.
I shouldn't have to do it manually and tbh there isn't a uk version to download and after listening to all the whinging because people have put different regions on their phones I'll have wait.
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There is a Eur Open rom and chances are that will be the EXACT file we get as an update. I haven't seen much whinging about putting different region roms on phones unless you mean putting D805 on a D802 etc which i wouldn't recommend anyway...
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Sorry to burst your bubble but you'll be seriously disappointed with Kit Kat. It's not some groundbreaking update. TBH, it's just the need to have the latest and greatest, objectively this phone runs just as great with JB as it does with KK. Whoever says differently is fooling himself.
So sit back, relax, enjoy probably the best phone out there and stop counting down the days.
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Well said. Had KK on my G2 for a few days but i will struggle to name just 3 things that are better now than before. To be honest I had to search online to find out whats new in KK because everything looks and behaves exactly the same. Relax people and enjoy your phone, you'll forget about KK in one hour after you have it installed.
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I would say chill out man still galaxy s4 is not updated in India, and ROM on g2 is much much better so wait till the end of March.
We all will get KK love.
"just my 2 cents"
Typing this on my KK updated LG G2 ... its really not that different haha
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I for one wouldn't want the KitKat update till the horrible "crackling/hissing in earphone" bug is fixed. I am fine with stock 4.2.2 and the best part is I can flash Philz touch recovery and install Mahdi's competent 4.4.2 rom.
There are posts like this in almost every device forum during new android version rollouts. LG has released Kitkat ahead of its original schedule, your carrier is just dragging its feet.
I have an international unlocked G2 and KitKat upgrade is available as an OTA download or via LG PC Suite, so... your argument is invalid.
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Lg is dragging its feet on getting KITKAT out to the owners of simfree International versions of the LG G2...it seems all to familiar to owners of earlier promising LG handsets. KitKat does exist or our phones....so why do we not have it?
LG has THE WORST reputation for updates and it is proving that this reputation is deserved. I really do not understand why a company that is leading edge in all areas of Android development does not seem to understand that late deployment of updates HARMS its reputation and loose sales!
The KitKat firmware is there, put it on the servers!!!!!
People choose to trust LG by buying the phone simfree, so reward us with the quickest updates!
This Phone has done much to restore faith in LG and this dilly dallying is damaging the image turn around the G2 allowed.
What do other readers think? Is LG again reverting to type and deliberately avoiding updating Phones? LG works so closely with Google at the moment that there really is no excuse for being so late....Q1 is rapidly ending and they NEED to get this sorted TODAY!
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Sorry to burst your bubble but LG already released all the Kitkat sources, it's now up to your provider or regional office. So if you want to file a complaint which it seems to be the UK region device, maybe you should go ***** at LG UK for being incompetent.
LG is a huge company, in overall comparison their phone divisions are very small. Someone at LG has obviously taken notice that they have a lot of potential and have been working extremely hard at transforming the LG brand of phones into something which rivals the current market giants. If you said a year ago that LG would be updating phones and would have the best phones on the market(G2/G Pro 2) everyone would laugh at you.
LG is going through a lot of expansion and maturing, you honestly can't expect for them to be on HTC/Samsung/Moto/Sony tier as up until 6 months ago the only decent phone they ever really made and supported was the Nexus 4 which is only the former. Give them another year, the G3 and another reiteration of flagship phones and they could really be on par. However until then there's still going to be plenty of teething issues since they've just finally entered the big boys market.
Sorry what? *Yawn*
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Sorry to burst your bubble but LG already released all the Kitkat sources, it's now up to your provider or regional office. So if you want to file a complaint which it seems to be the UK region device, maybe you should go ***** at LG UK for being incompetent.
LG is a huge company, in overall comparison their phone divisions are very small. Someone at LG has obviously taken notice that they have a lot of potential and have been working extremely hard at transforming the LG brand of phones into something which rivals the current market giants. If you said a year ago that LG would be updating phones and would have the best phones on the market(G2/G Pro 2) everyone would laugh at you.
LG is going through a lot of expansion and maturing, you honestly can't expect for them to be on HTC/Samsung/Moto/Sony tier as up until 6 months ago the only decent phone they ever really made and supported was the Nexus 4 which is only the former. Give them another year, the G3 and another reiteration of flagship phones and they could really be on par. However until then there's still going to be plenty of teething issues since they've just finally entered the big boys market.
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ALL very good points i will consider thinking before complaining next time!
I completely agree with you and I find the answer "KK is really the same as JB" really stupid, first of all it's not true, there are useful things introduced with KK and above all LG needs to fix a lot of bugs on this phone, so every update is welcome. Then the first reason I'm angry at LG is that the Korean version of the G2 got KK on december, and except little differences like the micro SD expansion card it's the same phone as in the rest of the world. And so LG needed 4 months to adapt it to the international version? Really? A big company like LG needs 4 months adapt a update for an identical phone? And then when the release finally arrives it's like this, someone a month earlier, someone like me (32 GB European version) still not, without any reason. After a Nexus One and a Nexus 4 I gave a chance to LG, but I think it'll be the last and only time
Considering LG updated the G3 in Korea before even Nexus phones got the update, how did we fall behind the Moto X (2nd gen), Galaxy S5, and the HTC One M7 and M8 on Verizon?
http://www.androidcentral.com/lollipop-update-sprint-htc-one-m8-set-feb-13-lg-g3-feb-16
I mean yay for us finally getting it, but screw you Verizon.
Quantumrabbit said:
Considering LG updated the G3 in Korea before even Nexus phones got the update, how did we fall behind the Moto X (2nd gen), Galaxy S5, and the HTC One M7 and M8 on Verizon?
http://www.androidcentral.com/lollipop-update-sprint-htc-one-m8-set-feb-13-lg-g3-feb-16
I mean yay for us finally getting it, but screw you Verizon.
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This is for Sprint bud.....Verizon hasn't made a peep about any 5.0 update for the G3.
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This is for Sprint bud.....Verizon hasn't made a peep about any 5.0 update for the G3.
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Oh balls... even worse.
Yay early AM reading comprehension.
Luckily, Verizon and Sprint have been handing out updates about the same time for other phones. We can hope that continues and Verizon comes out at the same time. I just hope the bugs aren't an issue though.
I'm waiting till March/April before I throw lollipop on this(if the updates out)..I'll wait for the eclipse Rom to drop lollipop thanks..
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Oh balls... even worse.
Yay early AM reading comprehension.
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Lol....yeah. Personally I'm all about AOSP, so I can't complain, but it is annoying how long the US carriers always take. As far as AOSP goes, most of the ROMs I've tried are definitely stable enough for the things I use my phone for so I just live with the occasional oddities. Eclipse is an awesome choice though for a stock/AOSP hybrid of sorts. I just hope VZW doesn't jack with anything in the update that makes downgrading impossible or the like, because then all of a sudden the forum will be a mess with people who couldn't just wait the couple extra days for someone to release a "safe" version of the update....then all of a sudden the forums will be a mess with noobs all being like:
"Please help I know people said not to but I upgraded anyway and I now I can't be 1337 h4x0rz and haz root and phone is broken and won't boot!!!1 How to fix??"
Lol....but I digress
Anyone hear if g3 is even getting 5.1.1 or is this phone dead to lg.
Rumor around the net is that we're going to be skipped entirely and get M when it's released, instead.
Other rumors are that the G3 and the G2 both will get 5.1.1:
https://www.androidpit.de/lg-g3-android-update
https://www.androidpit.de/lg-g2-android-update
Use Chrome's translation ability.
Honestly at this point I would rather see LG focus on getting M ready for our G3 than worrying about 5.1.1. By the time they get 5.1.1 ready Android M will be close to ready for at least the Nexus devices so I'm figuring LG could be that much closer to having it ready for us to instead of working on 5.1.1 then turn around to work on Android M after that. Not to mention if you badly want 5.1.1 right now there's a TON of great AOSP/CM based ROMs that work perfectly fine on our G3.
... I hope that all makes sense.
It's near impossible for LG to work on getting M ready since Google doesn't even have it done. It can be useless to work on a prerelease since who knows what might change before it gets released to final. I'd rather have a bugfixed Android 5.0 as in 5.1.1 rather than a brand new possibly still buggy M.
I'm betting we might see a maintence release in fall with a few bug fixes and then end of life for the G3 as Verizon is prone to do.
DigitalMD said:
I'm betting we might see a maintence release in fall with a few bug fixes and then end of life for the G3 as Verizon is prone to do.
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I hate to say it DigitalMD, but I would bet money your exactly right. [emoji34]
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matty032 said:
I hate to say it DigitalMD, but I would bet money your exactly right. [emoji34]
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I don't know. I never thought the S4 on Verizon would see 5.0 but they proved me wrong once, lets just wait and see.
Or the first week of February. Maybe something that doesn't matter to a lot of us who already jumped onto the leaked Lollipop build I have to offer.
I know I haven't seen many of the users who posted here before because Verizon surely did rip us. Yesterday I've spent quite some time looking at the Droid Turbo 2, LG V10, Moto X Pure, and the Note 4/5 at Best Buy. Snappier UI experience, amazing cameras, and surely they all got the best support of today. I would only jump ship knowing if I could get all of those + waterproofing on Verizon and that's that.
I only hold thread on my phone definitely for most of those features on an Xperia that was a flagship of 2014. And there's also that contract too. If the bootloader was ever unlocked, I'm pretty sure our two developers on the phone could do much more. For the time being, I do try my best in enjoying the Z3v with what's in this showcasing attachment.
Pretty soon...
The factory version would need to have additional features that I *would* use before I go back to OTA. My phone is stable and I am happy.
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Or the first week of February. Maybe something that doesn't matter to a lot of us who already jumped onto the leaked Lollipop build I have to offer.
I know I haven't seen many of the users who posted here before because Verizon surely did rip us. Yesterday I've spent quite some time looking at the Droid Turbo 2, LG V10, Moto X Pure, and the Note 4/5 at Best Buy. Snappier UI experience, amazing cameras, and surely they all got the best support of today. I would only jump ship knowing if I could get all of those + waterproofing on Verizon and that's that.
I only hold thread on my phone definitely for most of those features on an Xperia that was a flagship of 2014. And there's also that contract too. If the bootloader was ever unlocked, I'm pretty sure our two developers on the phone could do much more. For the time being, I do try my best in enjoying the Z3v with what's in this showcasing attachment.
Pretty soon...
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Do you have a source of this and whether it is a newer build our not?
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I don't know what it is with 5.0.2 but my experience with it compared to 4.4.4 has been awful. I haven't experienced as many app/phone crashes, freezes or instances of chrome running out of RAM for things like uploading a picture with rooted KK (if any) as I have with LP. It's so unstable for me.
Quite literally the only thing it has going for me is the Material design and even that I could work without if I let myself get used to Holo again. I'm hoping if VZW ever does come out with a more finalized build for its OTA that it doesn't crap all over itself like this build is on my phone.
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I don't know what it is with 5.0.2 but my experience with it compared to 4.4.4 has been awful. I haven't experienced as many app/phone crashes, freezes or instances of chrome running out of RAM for things like uploading a picture with rooted KK (if any) as I have with LP. It's so unstable for me.
Quite literally the only thing it has going for me is the Material design and even that I could work without if I let myself get used to Holo again. I'm hoping if VZW ever does come out with a more finalized build for its OTA that it doesn't crap all over itself like this build is on my phone.
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With all this extra time they are taking and considering it is a stage fought patched internal release people have been testing it already is 1 step ahead of the other sony lollipop releases unless they are on 5.1.1 now. That's what verizon should be releasing to us. My HTC m8 was and still is stuck on 5.0.1 and that's a rough update
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Do you have a source of this and whether it is a newer build our not?
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I took the chance with chatting with a Verizon representative and I was surprised he gave me an exact date for it. May be true or not, but it's something neat to tell others just in case.
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I don't know what it is with 5.0.2 but my experience with it compared to 4.4.4 has been awful. I haven't experienced as many app/phone crashes, freezes or instances of chrome running out of RAM for things like uploading a picture with rooted KK (if any) as I have with LP. It's so unstable for me.
Quite literally the only thing it has going for me is the Material design and even that I could work without if I let myself get used to Holo again. I'm hoping if VZW ever does come out with a more finalized build for its OTA that it doesn't crap all over itself like this build is on my phone.
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You can tell the difference for sure just by opening the Recents menu on KK and LP. It opens up without lag on KK, but you can see a slight delay on LP.
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With all this extra time they are taking and considering it is a stage fought patched internal release people have been testing it already is 1 step ahead of the other sony lollipop releases unless they are on 5.1.1 now. That's what verizon should be releasing to us. My HTC m8 was and still is stuck on 5.0.1 and that's a rough update
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Who knows, maybe? I wonder if someone questioned Sony whether or not they released an updated rom or patch for the Z3v against Stagefright.
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I took the chance with chatting with a Verizon representative and I was surprised he gave me an exact date for it. May be true or not, but it's something neat to tell others just in case.
You can tell the difference for sure just by opening the Recents menu on KK and LP. It opens up without lag on KK, but you can see a slight delay on LP.
Who knows, maybe? I wonder if someone questioned Sony whether or not they released an updated rom or patch for the Z3v against Stagefright.
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I'm still on stock kitkat awaiting a final ota.. but with this delay there has to be a change from the internal release? How often are internal releases the final build for a ota update? What are the chances of marshmallow that sony is releasing for all their devices?
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I'm still on stock kitkat awaiting a final ota.. but with this delay there has to be a change from the internal release? How often are internal releases the final build for a ota update? What are the chances of marshmallow that sony is releasing for all their devices?
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There's almost no chance at all Marshmallow is coming to our device. It's really sad to say even though we are the bridge between the Z2 and Z3, but we're locked within Verizon's boundaries.
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There's almost no chance at all Marshmallow is coming to our device. It's really sad to say even though we are the bridge between the Z2 and Z3, but we're locked within Verizon's boundaries.
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Was the verizon rep a friend or was it a random you spoke with over phone? Do you think it's reliable info?
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Was the verizon rep a friend or was it a random you spoke with over phone? Do you think it's reliable info?
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It's someone random, but that doesn't necessarily determine if it's reliable or unreliable. It's already one year after the promised date range of when the Z3v was supposed to get the official Lollipop rom. Whatever comes now is just a worthwhile announcement. If we get it, we get it. If we don't, then oh well.
Oh man not another ota thread! No one believes these any more. Aren't you the one that said there was going to be one in November?
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Oh man not another ota thread! No one believes these any more. Aren't you the one that said there was going to be one in November?
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Maybe I did say it, or didn't. It could have been a lot of other people saying it as well. I just want to share hope far the antics go with what Verizon knows for what they think the OTA release dates are.
Even thinking the Z5 coming to Verizon was almost too good to be true, but I would like to have a nice upgrade to another flagship waterproof phone.
Be careful what you wish for with Sony devices. The Z2 I had with AT&T and Z3V on Verizon were solid devices, but the Z3 and Z3+ I've tried with T-Mobile both had reception issues. i.e. in fringe areas they would have no signal at all while other devices would have signal. I don't know what Sony has done with their newer devices but it really hasn't been an improvement.
Even my wife's Note 5 gets better reception than the Z3/Z3+
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Maybe I did say it, or didn't. It could have been a lot of other people saying it as well. I just want to share hope far the antics go with what Verizon knows for what they think the OTA release dates are.
Even thinking the Z5 coming to Verizon was almost too good to be true, but I would like to have a nice upgrade to another flagship waterproof phone.
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Keep guessing you'll get it right one day.
Well I guess we'll see if this is meaningful tomorrow I guess.....
https://community.verizonwireless.c...200472/read&inboxId=2-1377392&fromStream=true
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Keep guessing you'll get it right one day.
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Really try not to be a jerk, m'kay?
That'd be g r e a t.
Hi everyone
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Or the first week of February. Maybe something that doesn't matter to a lot of us who already jumped onto the leaked Lollipop build I have to offer.
I know I haven't seen many of the users who posted here before because Verizon surely did rip us. Yesterday I've spent quite some time looking at the Droid Turbo 2, LG V10, Moto X Pure, and the Note 4/5 at Best Buy. Snappier UI experience, amazing cameras, and surely they all got the best support of today. I would only jump ship knowing if I could get all of those + waterproofing on Verizon and that's that.
I only hold thread on my phone definitely for most of those features on an Xperia that was a flagship of 2014. And there's also that contract too. If the bootloader was ever unlocked, I'm pretty sure our two developers on the phone could do much more. For the time being, I do try my best in enjoying the Z3v with what's in this showcasing attachment.
Pretty soon...
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Could you please tell me how you got the xperia z5 camera to on your phone please
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Really try not to be a ****, m'kay?
That'd be g r e a t.
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I can't help myself, it's just my nature. :good:
I have not seen any hint of an OTA for our phones and I do keep watching for one, I think another forum member said he has a inside tipster who will let them know if there is to be an update OTA coming.
Well I just called Verizon to see if they would give me information that is in any way similar to what you received. The tech told me that they are focusing on updates for their HTCs LGS and Samsungs. He said that even though we can activate Advanced calling on our accounts the phone still needs the 5.0 update to actually use it. I asked him for a time frame. He said that the manufacturer hasn't sent them the update yet and then when I told him the manufacturer saidit was to be out by the end of 2015 and that competitors already have updates for their phones he kind of glazed over it.
So the time frame he gave me was possibly around spring break or during the summer in which he also said that sony is working on a new phone which would be coming around by then on Verizon and that they might be waiting to make the new phone before they push that update. So the false hope can be put to rest. The lead OTA would probably be our only option for a while and he said that they might not have released an update because they are still fixing bugs. And for the tech to try to relate he said that he is still waiting on an update for his samsung galaxy note 4 for Advanced calling.
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lg-sony-htc-samsung-apple said:
Could you please tell me how you got the xperia z5 camera to on your phone please
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In due time, it will be for everyone here. Pretty soon.