Hey everyone, I'm new here and have been trying to find out what's going on with the i717 in regards to kitkat rom development. Anyone have any updates or know how soon we can expect to see some nightlies or any types of builds?
Thanks!
Has it even been released yet?
amcateesd said:
Hey everyone, I'm new here and have been trying to find out what's going on with the i717 in regards to kitkat rom development. Anyone have any updates or know how soon we can expect to see some nightlies or any types of builds?
Thanks!
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I will edit my original post here cause I was a bit of an A-hole. this was you first post and I didn't want your first impression to be as nobody here wants to help. of course if you had already read the previous, than I am too late and can only apologize.
a few spoken rules in one of the threads for newbies here.
1. run a search, maybe the question has already been asked before
2. read, read, read
3. help yourself first, as nobody is going to do the work for you.
there are thousands of people that are more than willing to help here, but you should be mindful of repeating questions as some folks can get irritated. it is usually someone that asks a specific question about an issue that was just addressed 2 post up or on the previous page.
making a personal request for an immediate feature that may have just been announce can also annoy some developers. some to the point where they have stopped developing.
good luck and remember to read
captemo said:
I will edit my original post here cause I was a bit of an A-hole. this was you first post and I didn't want your first impression to be as nobody here wants to help. of course if you had already read the previous, than I am too late and can only apologize.
a few spoken rules in one of the threads for newbies here.
1. run a search, maybe the question has already been asked before
2. read, read, read
3. help yourself first, as nobody is going to do the work for you.
there are thousands of people that are more than willing to help here, but you should be mindful of repeating questions as some folks can get irritated. it is usually someone that asks a specific question about an issue that was just addressed 2 post up or on the previous page.
making a personal request for an immediate feature that may have just been announce can also annoy some developers. some to the point where they have stopped developing.
good luck and remember to read
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Thanks, I didn't read until after the edit, however from browsing around here I was worried I would just be told to shut the **** up etc...
I have tried looking all over the place for info on a 4.4 rom and if people are working on one for the i717. So far I can't find anything. I was just wondering if anyone knew if the phone would be getting a ROM or left behind.
Our latest official release was 4.1.2.
As you can see, we now have ROMs on 4.2.2, 4.3 and 4.3.1. I have not seen any devs "promise" a 4.4 rom, and I don't expect them to.
But, the 4.4 source just dropped few days ago, and I am pretty sure that they are looking at it, at the very least. If history is any indication, I would say we are going to get 4.4 roms eventually. Developing a rom is hard work, so please just wait.
Asking for an ETA might be irritating for devs, if you are not contributing to the development. And if you are contributing to the development, you should already know the answer to the question.
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Our latest official release was 4.1.2.
As you can see, we now have ROMs on 4.2.2, 4.3 and 4.3.1. I have not seen any devs "promise" a 4.4 rom, and I don't expect them to.
But, the 4.4 source just dropped few days ago, and I am pretty sure that they are looking at it, at the very least. If history is any indication, I would say we are going to get 4.4 roms eventually. Developing a rom is hard work, so please just wait.
Asking for an ETA might be irritating for devs, if you are not contributing to the development. And if you are contributing to the development, you should already know the answer to the question.
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Sorry, I don't mean to annoy anyone. I only came here because no other place had info and was told to go to XDA. I am not trying to rush anyone and I know these things are a ton of work. Like I said I was only wondering if people thought at some point 4.4 would come to the i717 not plz give me rom now.
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Sorry, I don't mean to annoy anyone. I only came here because no other place had info and was told to go to XDA. I am not trying to rush anyone and I know these things are a ton of work. Like I said I was only wondering if people thought at some point 4.4 would come to the i717 not plz give me rom now.
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Jamie has gotten CM11 to fully build for the i717 but he hasn't completely debugged it yet.....I would think he will be posting it soon.
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dparrothead1 said:
Jamie has gotten CM11 to fully build for the i717 but he hasn't completely debugged it yet.....I would think he will be posting it soon.
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Thank you so much for your answer! It's nice to see people take five seconds to answer a simple question, I really do appreciate it. Have a greatrest of your day!!!
Its just a phone.
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Its just a phone.
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And?
He posted the preview in General. I haven't been able to flash it personally because I use TWRP (and only CWM works at this point) but you're welcome to check it out. Flashed CWM Recover to try. P3 ran well, although obviously a bit buggy. P4 is out now with less bugs--both ran smoothly...well enough that I'm happy using it as a daily driver.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518785&highlight=4+4+kitkat
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He posted the preview in General. I haven't been able to flash it personally because I use TWRP (and only CWM works at this point) but you're welcome to check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518785&highlight=4+4+kitkat
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Yes, relative to ASOP/CM, the ones that I am aware of: JamieD81 is already working a version of CM11 plus his stand-alone Uber kernel and I believe that you will see Liquidsmooth (Patch_Adams) and Hellybean (ThdDude) come up with their versions.If you have not yet tried them, they all have excellent 4.3.1 kernel & Jellybean builds.
4.3.1 MHL Support
ddochi11 said:
Our latest official release was 4.1.2.
As you can see, we now have ROMs on 4.2.2, 4.3 and 4.3.1. I have not seen any devs "promise" a 4.4 rom, and I don't expect them to.
But, the 4.4 source just dropped few days ago, and I am pretty sure that they are looking at it, at the very least. If history is any indication, I would say we are going to get 4.4 roms eventually. Developing a rom is hard work, so please just wait.
Asking for an ETA might be irritating for devs, if you are not contributing to the development. And if you are contributing to the development, you should already know the answer to the question.
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I would be happy with 4.3 if MHL works to use Chromecast features.
Would love to recycle older devices and connect to TV or Projector permanently.
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Guys can someone tell me is ther fully working 4.0 android for galaxy s2 or will it be can some one give me a dl link whit all stuff for me to install it ?
Seriously? Are too lazy to look in development?
Catic said:
Guys can someone tell me is ther fully working 4.0 android for galaxy s2 or will it be can some one give me a dl link whit all stuff for me to install it ?
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Hello. Yes, there is a fully working Android 4.0 ROM for the Galaxy S2 - you can download it (with instructions) here.
Enjoy.
try this http://www.samsung-galaxy-s2-android.com/index.html I have been using the beta 1.1 and its great. Give it a try you will not regret it.
wisey38 said:
try this I have been using the beta 1.1 and its great. Give it a try you will not regret it.
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Does this have working portable hotspot and tethering? and does the phone read the sd card correctly for music and gallery?
everything is working for me except the video recorder and some video play back is choppy. i was surprised by how good its working for me. Battery life seems to be good to.
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No i am not but there are too many different android 4.0 don't know what is the best ....
Catic said:
No i am not but there are too many different android 4.0 don't know what is the best ....
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Just read them, rather than ask other people to read them for you.
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No i am not but there are too many different android 4.0 don't know what is the best ....
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Ignorance is bliss .
ICS Android 4 has not been released by Samsung .
XDA have a leaked ICS v KP8 Beat test rom not everything works that's why its not released .
You can install or one of the custom roms built around this . But its not for noobs and will of course void your warranty .
jje
I installed it 1 time and i was not happy whit it so i got back to official stuff xD
I found the latest CM9 build from Codeworkx to be stable enough as a daily use ROM. But I prefer TouchWiz to vanilla, so I switched back. It was very smooth though.
Bwahahaaaahahahahahaha Gold.
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Hello. Yes, there is a fully working Android 4.0 ROM for the Galaxy S2 - you can download it (with instructions) here.
Enjoy.
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Guys can someone tell me is ther fully working 4.0 android for galaxy s2 or will it be can some one give me a dl link whit all stuff for me to install it ?
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Why would you want to go with 4.0 when 5.0 leaked already?! Find it in all its glory here.
buddy do not listen to any of the above posts...here is a link to what you need. it is stable and smooth..trust me its my new daily driver. Click here buddy it is the latest build of ICS Link for latest ICS build
You are all gits. Give him a break, it's a reasonable question due to all the different versions flying round.
Try this thread.
Rather than being smartasses, why not give the guy an actual answer? If you think that said 'noobs' will be re educated by repeatedly posting that video, you're delusional. Either that or you genuinely think the same joke is funny after the 3rd time in a row, in which case, you're still delusional.
With this kind of attitude rife, nobody will learn to use the forum correctly or get the answers they want, creating yet more noobs.
To answer OPs question - no, there is no official ICS builds
from samsung yet. You're welcome to try a leaked build or Cyanogenmod 9, which I personally find stable enough for daily use. If you want real stability with every feature functional, however, you're going to have to wait to the official version from Samsung.
Next time, to avoid this immature nonsense, do a quick search and browse the development forum.
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Rather than being smartasses, why not give the guy an actual answer? If you think that said 'noobs' will be re educated by repeatedly posting that video, you're delusional. Either that or you genuinely think the same joke is funny after the 3rd time in a row, in which case, you're still delusional.
With this kind of attitude rife, nobody will learn to use the forum correctly or get the answers they want, creating yet more noobs.
To answer OPs question - no, there is no official ICS builds
from samsung yet. You're welcome to try a leaked build or Cyanogenmod 9, which I personally find stable enough for daily use. If you want real stability with every feature functional, however, you're going to have to wait to the official version from Samsung.
Next time, to avoid this immature nonsense, do a quick search and browse the development forum.
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Some good points, however a bit of mickey taking should be expected
I am running the CM9 ICS ROM and it is very good even at this early stage. Bits like audio out through the Sammy car dock aren't working (as you'd expect) and the video issues are annoying but not show stoppers IMO so I'm using this as my daily driver for now and will see what the battery life is like.
The only real way is to do a backup and try it out for yourself.
RollingStar said:
Rather than being smartasses, why not give the guy an actual answer? If you think that said 'noobs' will be re educated by repeatedly posting that video, you're delusional. Either that or you genuinely think the same joke is funny after the 3rd time in a row, in which case, you're still delusional.
With this kind of attitude rife, nobody will learn to use the forum correctly or get the answers they want, creating yet more noobs.
To answer OPs question - no, there is no official ICS builds
from samsung yet. You're welcome to try a leaked build or Cyanogenmod 9, which I personally find stable enough for daily use. If you want real stability with every feature functional, however, you're going to have to wait to the official version from Samsung.
Next time, to avoid this immature nonsense, do a quick search and browse the development forum.
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I'll tell you why.
More and more people are coming to these forums, and disregard everything that's posted. They jump in, create a thread, ask the same questions, and expect us to do the work for them.
If this specific user took the 15 minutes to read, he would quickly understand that there are two versions of ICS for the GS2 - leaked builds from Samsung, and CM9. He would also quickly understand that none of these are "full working ROMs".
However, seeing as he couldn't bother himself for 15 minutes to at least try and figure things out on his own, I definitely can't be bothered to write a valid response and to encourage that kind of behavior.
The video basically says "search before you post". He should search before he posts. It isn't funny, it isn't a joke, its actually pretty sad the video had to be created in the first place. But it was created, and it does exist, and so I'll use it whenever its appropriate.
XDA is not anybody's personal tech support - this is not a 1-800 number to dial if you're having problems or questions regarding your device. It is, though, an enormous hub of information that is readily available to anyone who's willing to put in the tiny bit of effort required to properly use it.
Soulicro well said put it in a nutshell .
Let Rolling star answer this same question 400 times in a month dont mind ten times a day .
jje
Hello I'm a newb!
I'm sorry, but this is the unfortunate state I find myself in.
When I first found this site, what I was expecting to find was a ICS for my phone. I could not have guessed what I would learn here. I had no idea I had a counter in my phone to worry about when installing open sourced roms? Next after much more reading I am to learn the source code Google releases is not complete, and uses binary drivers? Now I am to learn about CIQ, and my phone is spying on me? Wow!
Before I say anything else I want to express my thanks to this community. This has been such a resource I had no idea that it would be when I started. Thank you!
Now on to my question that after learning about all of that I don't seem to have a clear answer to. What I wanted when I first considered getting an Android phone, was to build from source, and run my own rom. I still want this, even more so since I learned about CIQ.
1. Due to the counter on my phone
2. I am to understand multiple images that make the phone work (boot, firmware, system)
3. The binary drivers.
Is this at all a reasonable goal?
Are there more flash images that I haven't read about yet?
Would having a direct from Google rom even be desirable?
I own a stock SGH-I777, I have done nothing to it yet.
Lastly about this site:
Is there anything you think I should read about on the forums?
Any language I should know, as in what does hellraiser imply/mean?
Any Android experience you think might benefit a could be developer?
Counter can be reset and avoided all together.
Sorry I don't know much about AOSP building, but your better off starting with compiling CM and learn from there unless you are really experienced in coding.
Speaking of, the image used to not increment the counter does, or does not still contain CIQ? I suspect it does? I would like a phone at some point w/o CIQ, and fully open source. Ty for reminding me.
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Speaking of, the image used to not increment the counter does, or does not still contain CIQ? I suspect it does? I would like a phone at some point w/o CIQ, and fully open source.
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AT&T Galaxy S2 SGH-I777 has never had CIQ.
LiLChris06 said:
AT&T Galaxy S2 SGH-I777 has never had CIQ.
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I'm shocked AT&T choose not to bug their customers? I assumed since I saw mention of it being on Samsung, that it was on all their phones?
NEME5I5 said:
I'm shocked AT&T choose not to bug their customers? I assumed since I saw mention of it being on Samsung, that it was on all their phones?
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No it was just some phones, I think the skyrocket had it at some point.
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Ok, so I rooted my first cell phone. It would seem heimdall latest has a bug that will brick your phone. (I'm on Mac OS Lion) I used the 1.3.1 instead, and it worked fine.
I saw many more sites, and this was quite easy. The way they showed it was very complex. Since I'm new at this should I wait to try out a ICS rom till after Samsung releases their source code, and the devs have had a chance to get it stable? How complete is the open source version of ICS? There was a note on the fsf.org page that linked me over here that some of the parts were still binary. Is it still true?
I think long term I want to get away from the official releases.
Well, you came this far, might as well flash an ICS rom now. If the leaks are any indication of status, the Samsung release will be pretty stable but the included kernel is problematic because it can cause hardbricking. Besides, you want to get away from stock, and all of the big roms released thus far are pretty darn stable; I don't know anything about binary parts or any of the coding, but plenty of people have no problem running CM or AOKP. Even the Samsung-based roms all look AOSP-like nowadays because they use Apex or Nova (not many devs like Touchwiz anymore). So take your pick, they're all good roms and most look like AOSP to some extent, with a few (mainly CM and AOKP) striving for pure AOSP.
Make sure to read and follow this guide carefully for flashing stuff, and have fun!
Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
NEME5I5 said:
Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Read, read, and read some more. If you don't understand the post above then there is no way you would be able to compile a rom for this phone, which is what I gathered from your op
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Yeh. Just give me the new thing! I want that shiny biscuit! Zomg! "Check MY device out. Its got AOKP on it. BAM.". "Oh cool how does that work?". "Pfft who cares. Its shiny!!!"
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NEME5I5 said:
Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Prother, by no mean to offense you, but seriously, if you don't know those fundamental technical terms, I strongly suggest you to hold off what you about to do and spend more time reading.
Let me go off and do a search the post for you, where you can get used to those terms.
Hang tight, prother.
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Read, read, and read some more. If you don't understand the post above then there is no way you would be able to compile a rom for this phone, which is what I gathered from your op
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So I will. To be honest I don't see the connection between the new jargon, and development I learn in school. There is definately much to learn here. I was expecting this to be like Zaurus development from back when I was active, it's very clear to me that this is a very different beast.
Here is one, I'm sure there is other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228&highlight=abbreviation
votinh said:
Here is one, I'm sure there is other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228&highlight=abbreviation
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Thank you friend. I may not have my own rom at the end of summer, but I should be on my way to understanding what would be needed for one.
Well the terms I wanted are not present on that list, most of that I was familiar with. To be honest, some of it I have not seen before as well. What is hellraiser, and some of the other xda developed jargon? I do have a tab open to that part of the forums, I just hadn't made it over there yet. I started on the forums for my device, then Android OS, and lastly general. Is there any other place I should pay special attention to that would help me?
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Yeh. Just give me the new thing! I want that shiny biscuit! Zomg! "Check MY device out. Its got AOKP on it. BAM.". "Oh cool how does that work?". "Pfft who cares. Its shiny!!!"
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Ok? I'm not sure I understand, is there something you don't like about the aokp rom that doesn't work very well?
I want off of the carrier provided images based on personal conviction. Google's development practices smack of cathedral, as do all of the 3rd party companies. In a sense they are abusing the spirit of free software by using a signed kernel to impede (if not actually prevent) our right to modify hardware we own. Any normal user of the software provided by the community (bazaar) can only help the cause.
I plan to share what I personally learn with close friends who live in my area. The more people we liberate, the better for everyone else. I simply applaud the work done here.
You can safely ignore Phalanx's post, he's just mocking you and other new users for not reading carefully and being stupid. You're at least trying to read and understand stuff, so I don't see any reason you should be put down the way he's doing so.
Here are a couple other links I think you'll find useful (please click my thanks button if you agree!):
ROM vs Kernel
Odex vs Deodex
Make sure to read all of the links posted in the sticky at the top of this forum, too. But note that by no means is this everything you need to read.
Mind you, all this reading is meant mostly for end-users, so that we learn how to safely and smartly modify our phones. Actual original developing beyond using what's already provided by the devs is a whole different story, and I'm sure there's even more to read up on that.
Good luck, happy flashing, and if you plan to develop later down the line, good luck with that too!
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You can safely ignore Phalanx's post, he's just mocking you and other new users for not reading carefully and being stupid. You're at least trying to read and understand stuff, so I don't see any reason you should be put down the way he's doing so.
Here are a couple other links I think you'll find useful (please click my thanks button if you agree!):
ROM vs Kernel
Odex vs Deodex
Make sure to read all of the links posted in the sticky at the top of this forum, too. But note that by no means is this everything you need to read.
Mind you, all this reading is meant mostly for end-users, so that we learn how to safely and smartly modify our phones. Actual original developing beyond using what's already provided by the devs is a whole different story, and I'm sure there's even more to read up on that.
Good luck, happy flashing, and if you plan to develop later down the line, good luck with that too!
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Ty for all your help. I'm glad you're all so thorough, it was like peeling an onion. The more I was looking at rooting my phone, the more there was to learn. All of you have done an amazing job making this approachable to a brand new user.
Ah I don't assume anymore about what people are trying to say, not everyone is a native english speaker. So I try to be understanding.
Yup I'll be at this for a while, I'm happy to have made some introductions, and maybe some time down the road I can even hope to contribute in some small way.
From a relative noob:
Follow the directions in the " [GUIDE] How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash Counter!! " thread. Then pick a rom you want to try and follow the CWM directions ... after that , find a ROM you like. If you don't want to void your warranty, wait for your carrier to provide the closest thing to what you want ... but, I'm happy with my flashed ICS ROM.
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Ty for all your help. I'm glad you're all so thorough, it was like peeling an onion. The more I was looking at rooting my phone, the more there was to learn. All of you have done an amazing job making this approachable to a brand new user.
Ah I don't assume anymore about what people are trying to say, not everyone is a native english speaker. So I try to be understanding.
Yup I'll be at this for a while, I'm happy to have made some introductions, and maybe some time down the road I can even hope to contribute in some small way.
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Just like everyone else has said. Read read read. Search for answers for your questions before you ask on forums. U will be fine as long as u can read and follow simple directions. Good luck to u. If u haven't flashed a rom yet I would recommend aokp. Awesome rom.
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Hey XDA,
I got my S3 at launch, and ever since I've seen some great Jelly Bean roms coming out I've been tempted to flash one on. My only problem is that I'll be losing S Beam, Smart Stay and Direct Call.
Just wondering if anyone who has already done so can give me some advice on weather it's worth it? Weather the Jelly Bean features outweigh the built in ones or not? Any feedback would be great, thanks.
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Hey XDA,
I got my S3 at launch, and ever since I've seen some great Jelly Bean roms coming out I've been tempted to flash one on. My only problem is that I'll be losing S Beam, Smart Stay and Direct Call.
Just wondering if anyone who has already done so can give me some advice on weather it's worth it? Weather the Jelly Bean features outweigh the built in ones or not? Any feedback would be great, thanks.
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Samsung is almost ready testing Jellybean for the S3, it will come out in about 6-8 weeks officialy. Maybe some leaked roms will pop up at Sammobile soon. If you only want to root for Jellybean i would not do it and wait for a little while.
If you want those features stock with Samsung based roms and wait for the official jelly, in the meantime check out a few custom s Samsung roms to keep the flash addiction happy
There's a few reasons I'd flash one of these roms on it. #1 being I for some reason am a massive vanilla android fan, and #2 being that I live in Australia and it will probably take them an extra 6 months to bring the official update here after it's released. Although, I did get the "Stability Improvement" update last weekend, a few weeks off the rest of the world, is that an indication of future updates being that quick also?
Thanks for your replies and I look forward to continue this thread to help me decide. One part of me is thinking how hard is it to touch the screen to stop it from sleeping, press a button to call someone, or use bluetooth to transfer files bigger than web pages. The other is saying what's the point of getting the latest and greatest smartphone to get rid of it's advertised features?
I think ultimately the answer is just flash it and if you don't like them just restore your nandroid! I've got 4 now, of different roms/kernels ....it's like having quad boot!
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I think ultimately the answer is just flash it and if you don't like them just restore your nandroid! I've got 4 now, of different roms/kernels ....it's like having quad boot!
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Wait you can have multiple roms installed at once? I thought you could only have one! I'm quite new to this. Also while I'm here, how do I edit my signature? I can't find it in the CP anywhere
XoomZoom said:
Wait you can have multiple roms installed at once? I thought you could only have one! I'm quite new to this. Also while I'm here, how do I edit my signature? I can't find it in the CP anywhere
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if you root then you can create a nandroid backup(complete system image) so I try different roms, if I like one I set it all up then do a nandroid, so if I want to try other roms and come back I just restore it, but now that this will lose your data between making that original nandroid and returning to it
Are you kidding me? Another "Custom Rom or Not" Thread???? Really !?????
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Already hundreds of times something has been written about these threads!
Don't open such Threads!
-Use Google
-Use other forums
-decide for yourself
XDA was made for DEVELOPERS to come and collaborate together. It's pretty sad that people have become so entitled to think XDA is a community where you can demand things, ask stupid questions, and expect people to solve your issues for you.
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dfMails said:
Are you kidding me? Another "Custom Rom or Not" Thread???? Really !?????
Already hundreds of times something has been written about these threads!
Don't open such Threads!
-Use Google
-Use other forums
-decide for yourself
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Everyone's situation is different, hence why I'm asking. Also, I'm not "demanding" anything, I'm simply asking people who have already done what I'm thinking an opinion, and even developers can explain what the pros of using their software compared to stock if they so desire. I may be new to these forums, but I've been a part of the Android community since it's release so I don't appreciate being treated like a so called "noob" when if you calm down, sit back and think about it I have not broken any rules, and I posted it in Questions and Answers not the Development section so this is also the correct section.
To the other people who actually cared to share their opinion, thanks, and I think I'll give a few custom roms a go.
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Everyone's situation is different, hence why I'm asking. Also, I'm not "demanding" anything, I'm simply asking people who have already done what I'm thinking an opinion, and even developers can explain what the pros of using their software compared to stock if they so desire. I may be new to these forums, but I've been a part of the Android community since it's release so I don't appreciate being treated like a so called "noob" when if you calm down, sit back and think about it I have not broken any rules, and I posted it in Questions and Answers not the Development section so this is also the correct section.
To the other people who actually cared to share their opinion, thanks, and I think I'll give a few custom roms a go.
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Nevertheless, you can compare your questions with other questions and answer them. Be it here or in other forums.
Because I do not think your question is "unique" and can not be answered with another question that has already been asked.
You must simply enter your title in Google and then you'll find massive pages, where the same or similar question has been answered.
Why I am so upset about it? I have already explained in my text.
XoomZoom said:
Everyone's situation is different, hence why I'm asking. Also, I'm not "demanding" anything, I'm simply asking people who have already done what I'm thinking an opinion, and even developers can explain what the pros of using their software compared to stock if they so desire. I may be new to these forums, but I've been a part of the Android community since it's release so I don't appreciate being treated like a so called "noob" when if you calm down, sit back and think about it I have not broken any rules, and I posted it in Questions and Answers not the Development section so this is also the correct section.
To the other people who actually cared to share their opinion, thanks, and I think I'll give a few custom roms a go.
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This is not exactly a whats best rom post its asking is JB reliable enough to install; as its a not yet released firmware .Plus featureless lost .
Simple solution for whats the best rom posts is to report to a mod let them decide .
Personally i would not report this as its not a whats best rom post .
But OP i would actually wait for JB release from Samsung .
jje
JJEgan said:
This is not exactly a whats best rom post its asking is JB reliable enough to install; as its a not yet released firmware .Plus featureless lost .
Simple solution for whats the best rom posts is to report to a mod let them decide .
Personally i would not report this as its not a whats best rom post .
But OP i would actually wait for JB release from Samsung .
jje
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Then he should change the title. There may be discrepancies because of his title.
You have to admit that the title "Custom Rom or Not?" sounds like such a post
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Then he should change the title. There may be discrepancies because of his title.
You have to admit that the title "Custom Rom or Not?" sounds like such a post
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Its getting a bit off topic but i dont actually disagree with your viewpoint . Its just a complete waste of time forum is what its users are and their is no way around a general lowering of standards apart from the mods saying bang bang .I gave up a long long time ago and now ignore many posts .
OP not included in the above .
jje
Thank you all, I appreciate the feedback and I will change the title.
I have decided I'll do a backup of my current software and just give a few roms a go can't hurt unless I brick it.
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Thank you all, I appreciate the feedback and I will change the title.
I have decided I'll do a backup of my current software and just give a few roms a go can't hurt unless I brick it.
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Try temasek's rom, it's fast and fluid and i rarely have launcher redraws. Google Now is suprisingly useful in all times.
Some people think they are mods, just report the threads instead of coming into every thread you think look useless lol.. Talk about waste of energy
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~I do sincerely apologize if i posted this in the wrong thread, kinda was torn between general and Q&A, but Q&A seemed more fit according to the forum rules.~
If you aren't already aware, there is a hybrid rom floating around varied devices. The rom isnt a hybrid between say ICS and JB, but rather a hybrid of cm10, aokp and paranoid. If you are curious about the specific details, just search XDA for PAC. Im trying to get back into porting, and maybe even back into developing roms, but i dont want to step on any developers toes, or over work myself. I think I would love to try and tackle this port and bring another JB rom option to us all, but i need to know if it is even worth my time.
My question is simple, Is the photon community interested in a PAC-Port?
Please, answer the poll, and if you have any added feedback/comments/questions, simply reply to the topic and i will be sure to read it through.
I would greatly appreciate your feedback, and with any luck, i can start working on it as soon as next week.
Thank you all in advance for your feedback/input!
Signed,
T3HG00GLEG33K
*now if i could only get up to the developers required 10 posts* :silly:
I'm interested.
We had another community project for the Photon lead by Th3Bill and Jokersax called Kitchen Sink that was based off of CM9
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1603595
What is project kitchen sink?
Its cm9, miui, cna, and aokp in one installer with all the options, tweaks, modifications, and changes you could ever want.
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Bock Abrams said:
I'm interested.
We had another community project for the Photon lead by Th3Bill and Jokersax called Kitchen Sink that was based off of CM9
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1603595
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ah yes, haha, i miss that. Here, look at this link to get a better understanding of the rom. i think you might have it a little confused. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32482802
Pac, is one rom, built from multiple roms.
PKS was multiple roms built into one aroma installer.
hope your still interested.
The more roms the better I say.
Seems how I flip back and forth between cna aokp and paranoid I could definitely live with and love all the options in one ROM.
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T3HG00GLEG33K said:
ah yes, haha, i miss that. Here, look at this link to get a better understanding of the rom. i think you might have it a little confused. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32482802
Pac, is one rom, built from multiple roms.
PKS was multiple roms built into one aroma installer.
hope your still interested.
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Ah, cool. Of course I still am.
of course that is a good idea thats what i exactly need option of CNA with AOPK mixed with those of CM10 and phablet of paranoid
i even tried some porting myself
Well awesome. it seems that everyone would be interested in the rom. im getting everything together, but i probably wont have it started till next week. i wont give an eta due to my schedule(in college, working, taking care of my fiance) i might need surgery, so that could delay things as well, but im excited to tackle this project and finally contribute to the community.
On another note, if i get it up and running, i may decide to add in an extra rom for kicks. So instead of just pac, it might be pacc or pac-x. Thanks for your feedback. if you have any suggestions or added feedback, feel free to post your replys. I am following this thread, so i will be in touch.
Wish me luck!
would this be available to only unlocked phones?
briedt mass
InsanePostman said:
would this be available to only unlocked phones?
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Yeah. This would require your phone to be unlocked and rooted. This is because the roms it will ne built from require an unlocked bootloader, and a lot of the features require root access. Another note to everyone; I do not use gsm, so once this rom is up and running, i may ask for help specifically for gsm debugging for those in need of gsm.
Hate to like bump the thread at all, just wanted to update on progress.
The majority of the rom is ported over. Having a few problems as far as it booting and staying booted, got a boot logo starts, and then loops, so still a WIP.
On a side note; i wont be working on this rom for a bit, My hours have been doubled at work, and i just got in a wreck today( im not at fault ), car is totaled. So
a) i need time to recuperate
b) needa figure out car situation
Sorry for the delay folks. After im feeling better ill be starting up again, and maybe putting in some more time into it.
Thank you for your patience, ive been having a lot of fun working on this rom, and so when its up, i will be maintaining it as long as possible. =)
Time for my good friend bengay. lol
happy pre-halloween!
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My sincerest apologies everyone. If you are not aware, Th3bill has released PAC. I just wanted to thank everyone for their feedback as far as interest in me porting PAC over. I couldn't be happier that bill made the rom. I think it is best left to those with more experience and who aren't so rusty. I had a lot of fun working on my port, but due to the circumstances i was not able to finish in time. This all being said, this topic is now closed. Have fun everyone, and happy holidays.
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In some time wil be
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Depends of the guys, i really appreciate the work of developers, but in 1 month, i see like 4 or 5 updates, with annoying updates like, NEW KEYBOARD, CHANGED BUILD.PROP and others, but nothing with NEW KERNEL, if possible get 3 or 4 developers to do 1 thing!! Or Stable kernel only in 2014 :/
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Depends of the guys, i really appreciate the work of developers, but in 1 month, i see like 4 or 5 updates, with annoying updates like, NEW KEYBOARD, CHANGED BUILD.PROP and others, but nothing with NEW KERNEL, if possible get 3 or 4 developers to do 1 thing!! Or Stable kernel only in 2014 :/
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A few questions:
There are not many devs left here. Do you think it is a good idea criticize our work like that?
Are you saying you don't want any updates unless it is a new kernel?
Have you considered trying to build a kernel yourself instead of complaining?
Just asking.....
I heard that the devs working on porting the XOOM kernel have progressed. Hopefully in due time...
It will, it's under development.
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A few questions:
There are not many devs left here. Do you think it is a good idea criticize our work like that?
Are you saying you don't want any updates unless it is a new kernel?
Have you considered trying to build a kernel yourself instead of complaining?
Just asking.....
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Im not criticating man, i really appreciate your work, you win my 10+ repp i only said that these updates dont be affect anything that the guys test. Because, i see much guys from here, and from other forums, that trying ICS several weeks because it have a new update, did you understand? hehe
Dont think wrong about my answr ;P
What exactly is the point of threads like this? People around here are getting just too good at nothing but whining and complaining. FYI, opening a thread like this is exactly the same thing as asking for ETAs, and I really hope everyone knows you NEVER ask for ETAs here. Instead of littering the forum with useless whiny adn wallowy threads like this, you could have helped the development efforts yourself. But no, people would rather just sit around idly and complain and whihe.
If you want a stable and fully functional ICS/JB right away, get a different device. If you want it in some undefined time, have patience, be supportive and QUIT ASKING. Better yet, instead of just waiting, take initiative and MAKE IT HAPPEN YOURSELF.
Hey Guys, I've reported this thread. I've got fed up with threads like these. Only asking for ETAs, growing up a bad mood... not throwing good vibes at all. We need patience, not ETAs. If you need a kernel so bad, then you've gotta have patience. That'll do the trick
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What exactly is the point of threads like this? People around here are getting just too good at nothing but whining and complaining. FYI, opening a thread like this is exactly the same thing as asking for ETAs, and I really hope everyone knows you NEVER ask for ETAs here. Instead of littering the forum with useless whiny adn wallowy threads like this, you could have helped the development efforts yourself. But no, people would rather just sit around idly and complain and whihe.
If you want a stable and fully functional ICS/JB right away, get a different device. If you want it in some undefined time, have patience, be supportive and QUIT ASKING. Better yet, instead of just waiting, take initiative and MAKE IT HAPPEN YOURSELF.
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Hey Guys, I've reported this thread. I've got fed up with threads like these. Only asking for ETAs, growing up a bad mood... not throwing good vibes at all. We need patience, not ETAs. If you need a kernel so bad, then you've gotta have patience. That'll do the trick
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wow, you've reported this thread?! all the guy was asking was how things are progressing. After the initial excitement of the ics leak there hasn't been anything of very much. He said he appreciated the work of the people who put the time and effort into trying to keep our phone as current as possible. Who do you think you are Ravilov labeling someone as whiny and wallowing (although just what you think the poster is wallowing in is beyond me - he asked a simple question). As for your pathetic 'no one asks for eta's' comment... I can only assume you've been spending too much time here.
Thankfully, the question was answered bu Syl and takemeouttt.
This is a forum, where people ask questions and, hopefully, get civil and informative answers.
1) New Keyboard -- Because people wanted to try the new keyboard with 'Swype'-like features.
2) build.prop edits -- Because different people are having different issues with the ICS roms. Devs are pretty much taking stabs in the dark to see which combination helps which device. (tegra part?)
3) Xoom Kernel Port -- Is compiled, but will be a while before everyone can test it and/or have a stable release (source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941654)
As for your original question, there's a strong possibility we might, but don't expect it anytime soon. If it was that easy, Motorola would have done it at the same time they did it for Xoom. Remember, developers might also upgrade to newer devices. Would seem pointless to develop for a device--that even the manufacturer abandoned, when you have a shiny new device.
The current "team" of developers ARE working "together". In my experience, it's hard to collaborate on something with another person remotely, but they seem to be managing it. Going by the thread, there are at least 2 active developers. Might be others who aren't updating in the thread, but are simply contributing by email and/or other ways?
This thread may or may not be pointless. I think if it gets closed at this point, it might help someone trying to find a simple answer without going through 1000's of posts in the development section.
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wow, you've reported this thread?! all the guy was asking was how things are progressing. After the initial excitement of the ics leak there hasn't been anything of very much. He said he appreciated the work of the people who put the time and effort into trying to keep our phone as current as possible. Who do you think you are Ravilov labeling someone as whiny and wallowing (although just what you think the poster is wallowing in is beyond me - he asked a simple question). As for your pathetic 'no one asks for eta's' comment... I can only assume you've been spending too much time here.
Thankfully, the question was answered bu Syl and takemeouttt.
This is a forum, where people ask questions and, hopefully, get civil and informative answers.
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Maybe i've should answered this:
See the proper thread in the forum. Hint: search button.
Now thats an appropiate response to the question in the 1st post.
How long more do ppl keep their atrix?
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How long more do ppl keep their atrix?
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I bought an atrix 2 weeks ago, i'm waiting to the delivery from China, so i think i would keep it for a year
I think that the community is simply misguided.
There is not a single post which clearly explains that we hit a brick wall regarding battery life.
Not knowing that, it IS frustrating to see a "new update!!" as the title of the ROM post and find only minor graphical changes inside.
There is a simple way to solve that, we need a sticky with an explanation regarding the entire Atrix ICS issue.
It should have a brief explanation that the ICS and JB roms that we have now are incomplete and generally suffer from graphical issues due to the old kernel constrains and even though we have a leaked version of the original ICS kernel, it is only barely functional and in most cases far from being a daily driver.
It will save a LOT of browsing (for me at least) since I check almost daily on the progress in the development section and it is quite a hassle to browse through all the latest comments for a clue of any changes or new ideas of how to make the rom work better and it will inform all those that don't bother checking and simply end up disappointed in the new changes.
Creating such a post is easy and I can do so if you'll approve of my idea, but the major point is to make it sticky and up to date, even if the update is simply updating the title just to show that no progress regarding kernel development/ ICS implementation for the Atrix was made.
I have no problems updating it either.
I adore the dev community here and all of you guys.
It's nice to see optimism where other developers and testers would just give up.
I love you guys and keep up the nice job. :highfive:
Why we just can't delete everything and add the rom from galaxy r
mixlis said:
Why we just can't delete everything and add the rom from galaxy r
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I think epinter tried taking the kernel from either the galaxy r and other similar phones and came out with the same issues as we get with the leaked kernel.
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Tough to say if it will ever happen, but at least there are a few people still interested enough to try. Seems the current best hope is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016837
All the top devs are working on the kernel plz support them by donating something try reading QandA section
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Does anyone know whats the most stable ICS/JB rom here? Need one with good battery life, & hwaccell...