Updated my phone to 4.3 today and afterwards I got a notification about security. While viewing the details of the agreement I see that it is to enable automatic updating. I do not want this as I do not want another update. I plan on rooting this s4 as soon as one is available. Unfortunately I am having to type in my account pin every time I unlock my phone. Any way around this?
Thanks for any help.
You should have done some reading before updating... for one thing there already is a method to keep root if going to 4.3 and the Knox security "features" are pretty well known right now. There is also a security popup bug that Samsung is aware of and it's just something you have to deal with until it's patched. Since you are already on 4.3 there is a method to root but not everyone is convinced it's safe to use.
Crawshayi said:
You should have done some reading before updating... for one thing there already is a method to keep root if going to 4.3 and the Knox security "features" are pretty well known right now. There is also a security popup bug that Samsung is aware of and it's just something you have to deal with until it's patched. Since you are already on 4.3 there is a method to root but not everyone is convinced it's safe to use.
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Thanks for the reply! I am aware I should have done some research. I previously had a thunderbolt that was rooted. Only so that I could use wifi tether. I use roughly 40gb a month via my wifi.. needless to say It is needed! This update blocked free wifi teather so now i will be rooting.
I will wait until It is proven safe.. or atleast thought to be by the majority of users. Thanks again.
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I'm very sad to admit that I updated from 4.2.2 to 4.3 on my Verizon Galaxy S4 and lost root. I made the terrible assumption that someone would root 4.3 quickly after release, but didn't want to wait to see the updates. So far, the only two solutions are:
1. Root on 4.2.2 and upgrade through this method
2. Use VROOT to root stock 4.3
This thread and this article both make me VERY wary of using VROOT, but this seems to be the only option once you do the OTA update.
Has there been any additional investigation into VROOT? Is it safe to use again, or is it a lost cause?
As of right now, that is the only option that I am aware of. I am no dev, but I have been tinkering with my phones for quite some time. I personally have not encountered a single ill effect from using vroot. There is a script which completely wipes it off your phone and installs the supersu app. Ultimately, it is up to you...I did it and I'd do it again. No ill effects what so ever and it's been a few weeks-nothing wonky to report.
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As of right now, that is the only option that I am aware of. I am no dev, but I have been tinkering with my phones for quite some time. I personally have not encountered a single ill effect from using vroot. There is a script which completely wipes it off your phone and installs the supersu app. Ultimately, it is up to you...I did it and I'd do it again. No ill effects what so ever and it's been a few weeks-nothing wonky to report.
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I'm really on the fence... My fear is that I don't want to compromise my Google Account, since my whole life goes through that thing. Did you find that hidden app was installed after using VROOT?
Why is there yet another thread asking the SAME question about rooting MJ7??????
Read the other threads...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47566483
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2535416
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I'm really on the fence... My fear is that I don't want to compromise my Google Account, since my whole life goes through that thing. Did you find that hidden app was installed after using VROOT?
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Not a single thing was different on my phone. There were even some folks who ran an md5 checksum on all apps and reported that nothing was altered what so ever on any system level. I understand your concern, it took me a couple weeks before finally doing it. I really weighed it out and decided that root was important to me. Also, a good dev on the forums did it with no ill effects. I have faith in him and thus far, nothing has happened. I don't want to push you into it though. I don't even worry about it anymore since the script wipes all traces of the chinese superuser app off the phone.
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Not a single thing was different on my phone. There were even some folks who ran an md5 checksum on all apps and reported that nothing was altered what so ever on any system level. I understand your concern, it took me a couple weeks before finally doing it. I really weighed it out and decided that root was important to me. Also, a good dev on the forums did it with no ill effects. I have faith in him and thus far, nothing has happened. I don't want to push you into it though. I don't even worry about it anymore since the script wipes all traces of the chinese superuser app off the phone.
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I did the same thing. My life runs through my google account and I was very weary. I dont see anything strange occurring and ran malware scans on both the PC and phone and didnt find any trojans. I am assuming it is safe with the removal script posted on Rootjunky.com
I'm going for it.
Alright.... I just did it. I used Sandboxie on my computer to temporarily install the Chinese program (just to be safe), and everything on my phone now looks like it's fine. I'll keep a close eye on my accounts, and have enabled Two Step Authorization on my Google Account. I'll still be super bummed out if it ends up VROOT is collecting personal data, but I just couldn't bring myself to wait for root any longer.
I'm curious to know if the developers of vroot have removed the data mining features from the more recent versions?
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note II and enjoyed it for 20 days before I saw it auto-updating and I stopped it mid-stream. Then I let it (where it still remains) in Airplane mode.
I learned since that if the update from auto-update is done, 4.3's bootloader is no longer available and it can no longer be restored to 4.1.2.
I am learning terms and procedures to the best of my novice abilities, but I am still confused on how and IF I can keep my 'download-in-progess' GNII that is still 4.1.2 at 4.1.2.
Verizon and Samsung say absolutely not as you probably know and that it would be a forced installation and factory reset now or afterwards = 4.3.
SO , my question is:
is there a master link for this procedure (and a best ROM?!)
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Also do all procedures to accomplish my goal of not updating to 4.3 involve rooting that would void the warranty as FAQ#19 states (? Or is there a non-rooting method?
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To stop the update you need to freeze an app called SDM 1.0. You will need to be rooted to do that. I guess you need to decide what direction you want to go in. If you want to unlock and flash roms then you need to do that now, before it updates. If you don't want to do that you can update and stay stock. Just be aware that if you update to 4.3 there is no going back. You can root 4.3 but you cannot unlock the bootloader.
Thank you. I see that xda's FAQ #19 says:
"Q19: Can Verizon scan my phone to see if it is rooted?
There are security features on the VZW servers that can block rooted phones from access. Know that when calling Customer Service, they can actively search your phone and see what version of Android Software you are running."
SO: Question>>> Does it not make sense to root since Verizon might actively search phone and shut me out since I did not do their forced installation?
Perhaps the answer is at best "maybe" since there are members here for sure that have rooted this and not been cut off by Big Red Verizon?
Thank you for the reply. I will look up the info. on that 1.0 program. I will prefer being rooted when I find the proper process (here is superior than youtube vids)
but the possibility of Verizon blocking phone if they can legally makes it illogical to purse rooting, unless I am missing something.
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"Q19: Can Verizon scan my phone to see if it is rooted?
There are security features on the VZW servers that can block rooted phones from access. Know that when calling Customer Service, they can actively search your phone and see what version of Android Software you are running."
SO: Question>>> Does it not make sense to root since Verizon might actively search phone and shut me out since I did not do their forced installation?
Perhaps the answer is at best "maybe" since there are members here for sure that have rooted this and not been cut off by Big Red Verizon?
Thank you for the reply. I will look up the info. on that 1.0 program. I will prefer being rooted when I find the proper process (here is superior than youtube vids)
but the possibility of Verizon blocking phone if they can legally makes it illogical to purse rooting, unless I am missing something.
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That is false. Verizon customer service cannot scan your phone. They do not know if you are rooted. Even if they did, they are not going to cancel your service. They want your monthly payment. If all of us on here have rooted several phones and still have service, don't you think that info you found is false? And if you do believe it to be true, why worry about taking the 4.3 OTA?
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wherewasNORAD? said:
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note II and enjoyed it for 20 days before I saw it auto-updating and I stopped it mid-stream. Then I let it (where it still remains) in Airplane mode.
I learned since that if the update from auto-update is done, 4.3's bootloader is no longer available and it can no longer be restored to 4.1.2.
I am learning terms and procedures to the best of my novice abilities, but I am still confused on how and IF I can keep my 'download-in-progess' GNII that is still 4.1.2 at 4.1.2.
Verizon and Samsung say absolutely not as you probably know and that it would be a forced installation and factory reset now or afterwards = 4.3.
SO , my question is:
is there a master link for this procedure (and a best ROM?!)
&
Also do all procedures to accomplish my goal of not updating to 4.3 involve rooting that would void the warranty as FAQ#19 states (? Or is there a non-rooting method?
[OK moderator, be kind as this is my 1st post!]
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If you really think that you will want to root your device eventually then now is the time to do it so you can update when you would like to. Adam Outlet has a step by step method that sounds scaryer than it is, just read throughly and you'll be fine. Good luck in which ever way you decide. :thumbup:
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Thank you
TonikJDK said:
To stop the update you need to freeze an app called SDM 1.0. You will need to be rooted to do that. I guess you need to decide what direction you want to go in. If you want to unlock and flash roms then you need to do that now, before it updates. If you don't want to do that you can update and stay stock. Just be aware that if you update to 4.3 there is no going back. You can root 4.3 but you cannot unlock the bootloader.
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This was what I was looking for for a while now. Thanks for answering my question.
I've read most of the posts on here, but all of them seem to be concerned with keeping root. Really I don't even know if this is a question that can be answered since I know the bootloader is still locked. I don't really care about root, the only thing that I would REALLY like to do is install CyanogenMod, which isn't an option at the moment. Given that, I'm thinking about taking the 4.4.2 update so I can have access to a lot of the new features, and get this annoying "Software update ready to install" message off of my screen.
The thing that worries me is that, if I do take this and the bootloader does get unlocked in the future, what are the chances this will affect my ability to use that unlock? For example, lets say an exploit is found that allows MK2 and previous bootloaders to be unlocked, but not NC5 (I believe that's the new version).
I think the question can be answered if anyone knows if the update changes or adds new security to the bootloader? If it does, then it may affect a future update. If it doesn't, then an unlock for one should work for the other right?
Like I said, I don't need or use root, but should I worry about rooting it before updating? From what I read, I can root MK2 and keep that root after updating, but I won't be able to root once I update to NC5. The only reason I would want it is, again, if it would be necessary for a future bootloader unlock.
Like I said, I know this unlock is only hypothetical, but maybe someone that knows more about it than me can extrapolate from past experience and requirements.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
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You can upgrade to nc5 with keeping the mk2 bootloaders if you dont take the ota
You got a very slim chance of either 4.3 or 4.4 being unlocked. Of course if you want to put yourself in the best possible position, stay on 4.3 since you can always upgrade to 4.4 if something did happen.
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Joshm is spot on...what little improvements found in kitkat doesn't strike me as enough of a reason to move to 4.4...I'm running baja rom with awesome performance.
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Thanks, follow up question then. Is there any way to get rid of that annoying "Software update ready to install" popup from Verizon?
BeanBagKing said:
Thanks, follow up question then. Is there any way to get rid of that annoying "Software update ready to install" popup from Verizon?
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Root your phone using SafeRoot then grab Titanium Backup from play store and freeze "SDM" . for good measure you can freeze " FWUgrade" too but SDM should do it.
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Root your phone using SafeRoot then grab Titanium Backup from play store and freeze "SDM" . for good measure you can freeze " FWUgrade" too but SDM should do it.
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Too late This morning I was unlocking my phone and hit the stupid install now popup that defaults to the top of everything when my phone wakes up.
The good news is the new Google Camera is amazing and I'm really no worse off. The bad news will come if anyone ever finds a way to unlock the bootloader that only works with previous versions
Thanks for the help everyone.
BeanBagKing said:
Too late This morning I was unlocking my phone and hit the stupid install now popup that defaults to the top of everything when my phone wakes up.
The good news is the new Google Camera is amazing and I'm really no worse off. The bad news will come if anyone ever finds a way to unlock the bootloader that only works with previous versions
Thanks for the help everyone.
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Well there is a downgrade method that partially puts your phone back to mk2 after taking the nc5 ota. You'd be able to have root and SafeStrap again. It's in Android Development. I haven't done it myself but hear it's not to hard to do
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I have found out that the new update will break the current root method.
There currently does not seem to be a way to downgrade if your devices is updated.
If you want to root, do not update.
This is aggravating because I only ever use root for ad blockers nowadays. Oh well.
Maybe with some luck the bootloader will be unlocked.
Luigiman765 said:
I have found out that the new update will break the current root method.
There currently does not seem to be a way to downgrade if your devices is updated.
If you want to root, do not update.
This is aggravating because I only ever use root for ad blockers nowadays. Oh well.
Maybe with some luck the bootloader will be unlocked.
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I use NetGuard to block adds. I purchased the IP filtering and it works awesome. Load in your favorite host table and let it go. It does keep an active VPN but haven't noticed any drain on it.
Here is the app thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-netguard-root-firewall-t3233012/page332#post68312768 Developer is super awesome with replying to questions and helping.
Yup!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68791345&postcount=9
on a good note (no pun intended) the device almost doesnt even need root. you have Good Lock to adjust Notifications and colors, and a Theme Store as well. As OP said, blocking ads is about all one really needs root for on this device. Sure with xposed you can have a circle battery icon, and a few other neat tricks. But these can all be lived without. I am currently staring at my 2 replacement Note7's I just picked up a few minutes ago. Ive got Software Updates disabled, but cant pull the trigger to start the root process, lol.
Luigiman765 said:
I have found out that the new update will break the current root method.
There currently does not seem to be a way to downgrade if your devices is updated.
If you want to root, do not update.
This is aggravating because I only ever use root for ad blockers nowadays. Oh well.
Maybe with some luck the bootloader will be unlocked.
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I woke up this morning and saw my Note7 auto-updated overnight!
If I reset my phone to factory settings would I be set back to the original firmware, or will I still be on the "Green Battery" update?
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I woke up this morning and saw my Note7 auto-updated overnight!
If I reset my phone to factory settings would I be set back to the original firmware, or will I still be on the "Green Battery" update?
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Unfortunately, factor resestting won't affect the software, and you'll still be on the same update. I even tried flashing the original firmware files via Odin but that did not work either.
i concur, i bricked my Note 7 trying to root it after i got my replacement yesterday 9/21.
i got an internal usc email in regards to the phe update which states it will only let you postpone it 4 times before it will automatically install.
unfortunately the dbag in the store activated my phone on the wrong line and for some reason thought a firmware update would correct it smh so i didnteven have a chance to root since he already installed my screen protector as well.
elliwigy said:
i got an internal usc email in regards to the phe update which states it will only let you postpone it 4 times before it will automatically install.
unfortunately the dbag in the store activated my phone on the wrong line and for some reason thought a firmware update would correct it smh so i didnteven have a chance to root since he already installed my screen protector as well.
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that blows! never trust them guys, i took my note7's in without the sim cards, said they were active in other phones right now. the rep looking to avoid work, gladly let me take my replacements home without even opening the boxes
cordell12 said:
that blows! never trust them guys, i took my note7's in without the sim cards, said they were active in other phones right now. the rep looking to avoid work, gladly let me take my replacements home without even opening the boxes
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awsome! good thinking-
We can use 'Package Enabler' app available in Playstore and disable the Software updates (which is what i did).
I bought the XT2041-4 Unlocked Moto G a couple years ago. I mostly de-googled, never had a google account on it and never did any updates to it until yesterday. I did updates because the wifi hotspot started dropping so I ran through all the years of updates including android 11 in hopes there was a fix.
Now after completion, enabling my hotspot props a dialog to call Verizon and subscribe to use that feature. Same thing if I plug in the phone to USB and select tether. It is a provisioning block that was not there before.
I can't afford to pay them more than I already do and think I was tricked. I don't really want/need or like Android 11 anyway. I found one thread that refers to laying the old image back on which would be great if it succeeds on the unlocked version Xt2041-4. I'm not sure what to do to fix the problem and I'm looking for help on that. I've done rooting and flashing many times before, but never with this phone. Is there a hack to defeat the provisioning they installed? Does anyone have insight into this problem?
Did you ever figure things out?
I could help you figure out a way to downgrade (are you rooted and do you have your bootloader unlocked?)...
Also, you could first look into a way to use your phone as a hotspot without rooting (I've definitely done it before but I'm mostly rooted).
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Did you ever figure things out?
I could help you figure out a way to downgrade (are you rooted and do you have your bootloader unlocked?)...
Also, you could first look into a way to use your phone as a hotspot without rooting (I've definitely done it before but I'm mostly rooted).
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I can use the hotspot now after rooting and using an app to enable the hotspot. But I couldn't get Android 10 on there because the flash to put the Android 10 bootloader back on there fails. The phone is unlocked. I couldn't get past that so I just accepted it.