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Hi all, I am a member here coming from an AT&T Galaxy S3. I just ordered a Galaxy Note an hour ago and wanted to know some hands on user experiences? I have looked at youtube videos and they just don't seem to do the trick. I would like to know if they are really smooth and if they have good functionality, battery life, and if the development is good?
With the GSM SIII's losing IMEI's left and right, and all the bugs already, I am wondering how good the note really is.
I am not really looking for a 'persuasion' opinion because I will have both devices here before too long when the note gets here. I just want to know everyones experience and if the phone is laggy or anything, or any known bugs.
Any help is greatly appreciated and I will thank all members that give me some feedback.
Thanks! :good:
First off congrats on getting your note.
Stock 2.3 had some lag issues for me but ics fixed that and is smooth even stock.
As far as development goes i haven't tried allot out but have seen allot going on there are some great stockish roms with only a few tweaks but my choice right now is the collective aocp cp1 ROM .
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First off congrats on getting your note.
Stock 2.3 had some lag issues for me but ics fixed that and is smooth even stock.
As far as development goes i haven't tried allot out but have seen allot going on there are some great stockish roms with only a few tweaks but my choice right now is the collective aocp cp1 ROM .
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I appreciate this. I am hoping it will be good. I have like 8 devices now and I am trying to keep it on just one lol. I am stuck between my GSIII and now the Note when it arrives. I am sure each will have its perks. I just wanted user experiences.
Right now, in my opinion, the Note is the best phone on the market. We have awesome dev support. Any worries of lag you can pretty much throw out the window. The stock ROM, debloated, is very smooth and performs well, I have been quite happy with debloated stock ICS, and it it's legitimately the first Android I have used where the stock ROM is bearable, let alone satisfactory.
However, the work the devs have done will likely make you want to flash a custom ROM fairly quickly. We have official CM9 nightlies, and to make that even better, Cyanogen himself is the developer for that. We also have AOKP variants, as well as a few hybrids and AOSP roms. I'm currently running Gubment Cheeze by rasroygbiv, which is a CM9 variant, and I couldn't be happier, this thing flies and sips battery; highly recommended by me. I've tried most everything in the development forum as I'm a flashaholic, and I can tell you that the Note will not disappoint. JB is also in the works by several of our developers, and we should have stable builds very soon. Dev support is awesome to say the least.
There are no issues with IMEI switching that are know, and we have plenty of options to return your Note to complete stock, including a flash counter reset, so you shouldn't have any worries flashing. In addition, it's a Samsung, which means unless you're dumb and rush things, it's damn near impossible to hard brick. And even if you do manage to hard brick, there are JTAG services available for like 40 bucks that will fix that.
Battery life is slightly above average which is nice. Most people get around 3.5-4 hours of screen on time, and generally anywhere from 12-18 hours of standby or more depending on what all you have running/syncing. So there shouldn't be any worries there.
Plus, we have this beautiful 5.3" monster of a screen that will make you fall in love. It isn't even a question that you'll love the Note. It's a question of if you'll still love your other phones. =]
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That pretty much summed it up for me. If I could thank you 5 ttines I would
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I just wanna say that was the best feedback I have ever got on here. Thank you again.
No problem, glad I could help. =]
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First thing I would recommend is go with either a stock debloated ROM or even better would be going with h0tw1r3's ICS kernel and DAGr8's AOKP milestone 6 ROM. This combination for me has been beyond excellent. Incredibly smooth, rock solid stable and a pleasure to have. With my current CPU setup I'm at 15 hours off the charger and still have 70% battery (1 hour of screen on).
You can expect about 4-5 hours of actual screen on time.
If you can get past the size of the phone - which is honestly the biggest stumbling block for most new comers to the note, there's very few devices out there that are as good as the i717.
Good luck with your new note!
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netsyd said:
First thing I would recommend is go with either a stock debloated ROM or even better would be going with h0tw1r3's ICS kernel and DAGr8's AOKP milestone 6 ROM. This combination for me has been beyond excellent. Incredibly smooth, rock solid stable and a pleasure to have. With my current CPU setup I'm at 15 hours off the charger and still have 70% battery (1 hour of screen on).
You can expect about 4-5 hours of actual screen on time.
If you can get past the size of the phone - which is honestly the biggest stumbling block for most new comers to the note, there's very few devices out there that are as good as the i717.
Good luck with your new note!
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I am limited to 8 thanks per day, which I am pretty sad about, but I will be sure to thank you tomorrow haha.
I am not worried about the size, just the lag issues I have heard about and the quality of the screen.... can you differentiate between pixels to the naked eye or anything?
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Hi all, I am a member here coming from an AT&T Galaxy S3. I just ordered a Galaxy Note an hour ago and wanted to know some hands on user experiences? I have looked at youtube videos and they just don't seem to do the trick. I would like to know if they are really smooth and if they have good functionality, battery life, and if the development is good?
With the GSM SIII's losing IMEI's left and right, and all the bugs already, I am wondering how good the note really is.
I am not really looking for a 'persuasion' opinion because I will have both devices here before too long when the note gets here. I just want to know everyones experience and if the phone is laggy or anything, or any known bugs.
Any help is greatly appreciated and I will thank all members that give me some feedback.
Thanks! :good:
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The new one is coming or being announced in two weeks. My note with the ROM I'm currently using is just as fast as my S3, and much more capable due to the Samsung apps-- I.e. S Note, the widgets, and the ability to flash S3 apps and widgets because of phMod and the touchwiz framework support inherent in such a configuration.
You absolutely ant go wrong. I had a macbook pro, which I used for browser duty/media, and an iPhone for gaming and news. I stopped using my iPhone and my macbook pro when I got my TF101. I then got my Galaxy Note, and stopped using my tablet for anything but reading, and I split news duty between my Note and Transformer.
Even with the Snapdragon S3, ICS & the custom ROMs (and gingerbread earlier on) made it so the performance was as smooth or smoother than on any other device I touched, including the Prime.
Even games like Dead Trigger, with the Tegra 3 graphics effects enabled run well. They don't run at 60FPS, but to be honest, the display quality is such that you'll be wowed by the resolution and color vibrance and won't notice when you're only running at 30-40 fps. The gpu was the only area where I could've used just a tad bit more power-- I had that power with the GPU over clock that came with the first over clock kernel that was available here. I haven't seen that GPU OC make a comeback in ICS, even after the kernel source was released--disappointing.
Some suggest that the new Note will have a quad core S4, or the new Exynos wit baked in LTE (they won't give up LTE)....so I really think you're cutting yourself short. On the other hand, the enthusiasts and developers are, and will be here, likely for another year, when on contract, they can get an early 18 month upgrade, unless they buy retail.
You have a vibrant, CM and Indie supported community here, with the turkey, the gravy, and all the trimmings. Its impossible to guarantee that wit a new device-- especially one that had a predecessor released what, 4 or 5 months ago (Jesus christ!).
So weigh an established device that is supported, vs a SoC upgrade....because the Note 2 won't be much different. It wont have a better screen-- in fact, the screen resolution will stay the same, and if the rumors are correct, screen size will increase, resulting in a lower pixel density. It will be unproven, and might get better battery life (I say it might, because the rumors say it will get thinner....something that will impact the battery capacity, when in combination with a change to a more efficient, would likely balance out). It will have a less dense, but bigger screen.
I will however tell you that virtually e v e r y o n e that's used the Note, would likely pick it over any device on the market anywhere.
The form factor and screen quality trumps virtually every other ace in the hole out there.
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With the new kernel, and AOKP - I have ZERO lag. And the screen is on par with the best I've seen (including the 4s).
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See, I don't game alot. Main things are
Texting
Calling
Internet a little
Facebook
Xda
Twitter
And music.
If the note can handle those super smooth with no issues I have a feeling I'm going with thst
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See, I don't game alot. Main things are
Texting
Calling
Internet a little
Facebook
Xda
Twitter
And music.
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You won't be disappointed.
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I can't compare the Note with your S3, but I have the Note and the international quad core S3. My quad S3 is definitely a hair smoother, but that doesn't make up for the extra screen real estate, and s pen functionality. The extra smoothness of the S3 is hardly noticeable, versus when I pull out my s pen and start taking notes. That's a noticeable difference.
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I appreciate this. I am hoping it will be good. I have like 8 devices now and I am trying to keep it on just one lol. I am stuck between my GSIII and now the Note when it arrives. I am sure each will have its perks. I just wanted user experiences.
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i have never used the s3 but the note is by fast the best phone o have used or even seen the screen is amazing very fast and is a very solid device. Every one that sees it is like omg that's a phone.....so it makes a good conversation starter.
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I can't compare the Note with your S3, but I have the Note and the international quad core S3. My quad S3 is definitely a hair smoother, but that doesn't make up for the extra screen real estate, and s pen functionality. The extra smoothness of the S3 is hardly noticeable, versus when I pull out my s pen and start taking notes. That's a noticeable difference.
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honestly I will probably NEVER use the SPen lol.... I just like the bigger screen and I hear great development for it.
I just dont wanna go from my S3, to a Note, and then be disappointed. Granted I can always switch back, but I just spent X amount of money a new in box sealed note. I am pretty hopeful it works good. Thinking about donating some of these other phones I have to Devs that have bricked or something. I litterally have 2 iphone 4's, 2 iphone 4s's, a One X, a Note now, an S2 and S3, and like the older G1's and stuff. May do that when I finally decide what device to keep.
Okay I know our phone is getting old now and most probably upgraded to a S4 or HTC one by now, but I really miss the excitement 6 months ago when 4.2 android came to our phone. There was so much excitement and so many posts every minute.
Things have slowed down a lot here except in the android development forum, but it's understandable.
For me personally, i717 was my first android phone as I've only been a iPhone owner previously. i717 got me into Android, and despite some hardware and software setbacks, it has introduced me a whole new world of smart phones. I know what is bad and good about touchwiz. I know what kernels and roms are. And I've got great experience and patience with random reboots.
I will be with i717 for another year, and I honestly don't mind. It'll give me something to look forward to. That's not necessary a bad thing in life.
With that said, I salute the i717 big old Note.
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I, too, came to the i717 straight from years of using iPhones. Although I did have a Nexus 7 and various android tablets, I'd only flashed the occasional ROM -- I find tablets completely worthless, so I never used them.
With the 5200mah battery, I honestly don't plan on upgrading anytime soon. The S4 looks nice, and I'm sure note 3 will be awesome, but running cm9, I'll take the pepsi challenge against any 2013 phone in terms of responsiveness. They may hit amazing numbers on antutu, but I just want to hit a button and immediately have the action happen, and that doesn't take an 8000.
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I, too, came to the i717 straight from years of using iPhones. Although I did have a Nexus 7 and various android tablets, I'd only flashed the occasional ROM -- I find tablets completely worthless, so I never used them.
With the 5200mah battery, I honestly don't plan on upgrading anytime soon. The S4 looks nice, and I'm sure note 3 will be awesome, but running cm9, I'll take the pepsi challenge against any 2013 phone in terms of responsiveness. They may hit amazing numbers on antutu, but I just want to hit a button and immediately have the action happen, and that doesn't take an 8000.
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To this day I still don't have a tablet. I was going to get one this Xmas but I actually refused to when I saw how the Note could replace my tablet needs. I love putting my Note side by side next to my wife's iPhone 5 using the same app, and can see 2x as lines with bigger font than hers. That itself is a feature of a our phone that an iPhone can never replace.
I haven't tried the 5200 battery but maybe I will someday. Swapping batteries can get cumbersome as well as charging 2x batteries at the same time.
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@happy ~ when you arrived on the scene, the phone was at least a year and a half old. That's old in tech terms. So its understandable that users have moved on, as the majority of members here are always trying the latest and greatest thing, and a two year old phone isn't that.
But I agree with you, this is a great phone, and I for one can't see anything better in the "latest and greatest" phones out there.
Still on my Note, but we'll see what the Note 3 looks like. If it isn't the rumored 6+ inches I'll be interested.
Good to see there are others out there that share my same feelings on this phone. I've learned phones aren't about the best features, but how one relates to it. For me, i717 really did at a personal level. I just couldn't relate to a iPhone despite it having good stability. It just wasn't "me". It was Apple which I love as a company, but iPhone felt like a complete stranger despite being friends for so many years. Somehow, the Note and I just clicked.
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I know what ya mean. I actually got this phone when it first came out. It was my first Android phone too after a long list of iphones. Ive gone through several different devices since then to include the GN II. I even cooked a ROM for it under my old screenname cjsspape. I found myself coming back to this device as a solid interim device till the GN III comes out. I tried the HTC One which is great but i love the big screen this line offers. This will always be my go-to back up device!
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I was thinking of getting a new iPhone every 20-24 months and sell it for $400+ profit to cover my data costs. I can seriously use this phone for the next 10 years. OK, that's stretching a bit...but my point is this phone will last well over time. It has a place in my history. Actually we are holding the first phablet ever. Watch, it will be on display at MOMA in 50 years.
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We're still here.....just busy flashing all these new ROMs!!!
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I love the way everyone's heads still turn when I pull out my note. Because the screen is so big people can clearly see how cool it is running the many custom roms.
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I love the way everyone's heads still turn when I pull out my note. Because the screen is so big people can clearly see how cool it is running the many custom roms.
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+1. My worker has a Note 2 and was like whoa, what's that huge phone you got. I'm like Note 1..he's like No way, how can the screen possibly be bigger than Note 2. Well, it is. Its wider and more noticeable. No one notices a taller screen easily (i.e. iPhone 4S vs iPhone 5)
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My LCD broke and was forced to upgrade to the S4 for the time being.
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I've been behind this phone since I've had it and repaired it myself to keep it alive ....... I will not change till it is run over
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One quick correction, the current official version of Android on the Note 1 is 4.1.2, not 4.2 (or any variant of it).
Second, the person using CM9, you might consider upgrading to CM10, its now officially out of beta and really rock solid with alot of optimizations over version 9.
And now, my main point.
There is ONE reason Im considering an upgrade, ram. A second might possibly be screen quality.
This is an area where Samsung screwed up in my opinion.
With Android only continuing to grow in size, its going to require more and more ram to run effectively. 4.2.2 on my Nexus 7, completely stock with no apps installed sits in 500ish Mb of ram.
Yea, I know Android has memory management capabilities, but just like a PC, if you are constantly having to swap between inactive and active modes for different apps running in the background, this can create noticeable lag spikes as Android archives active apps into inactive status.
My second issue is the screen, Im not normally picky about the screen, most of the BS that people complain about on screens, I cant even see.
BUT, the screen on the Note specifically has, for lack of a better word, burn-in type issues. When I reboot my phone, it is VERY visible, with the AT&T logo screen (the all white with the AT&T logo in the middle), where I can actually see the entire screen is NOT a solid white, there are areas where it looks like some sort of other image is burned into the display.
This second issue however is not as big of a deal as I can only see this when I am looking at an all white (or nearly all white) background).
With regard to the 5200 Mah battery, Im using the Mugen extended battery (have no idea what the rated Mah is and I dont feel like looking).
Because Im still in the habit of charging my phone every day, I have not ever run the battery dry, the lowest Ive gotten it was 20% when I decided to do a little road trip from San Antonio to Houston and left the display on the entire trip getting there and coming back.
What I will say is, the major negative is that the phone wont fit in any 'things' that the phone would typically go into. For example, I have a car mount, my Note wont exactly fit in the car mount, I had to make a few adjustments to get it to work. Cases also make the extended batteries not an option.
Other than that however, the extended battery is completely fine, I mean really, what exactly are you putting behind your phone anyway?
I'm still rocking the I717 with a 5200mah batt but hope to get the upgrade if note 3 comes out better be water resistant lol:beer:
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I use the ravpower 2750 I've had better results with it then 5200. And cm9 is stable no reboots... I run a 4.2 from as well as a back up ..I switch between the 2 whenever one gets old to me.
••••changes with every flash••••
I'm still on my i717 and love it more with CM10.1 than I ever did before. It's still going strong in pocket tablet mode (200dpi) and I've pretty much stopped using my other devices for over a year now. I'm looking forward to the Note 3, a 1080p screen would be a welcome upgrade and if I get a new phone then I can do more hacking on the i717 like running Ubuntu or Debian on it.
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Calc....do u get reboots and does it bother u? I get reboots every now and then on 10.1 and that's the only thing I can't stand with our phone...I could live or deal with everything else.
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I got my Note on Feb 19 2012 at AT&T on launch day, I really did enjoy it. Sadly enough, the HTC One pulled me in with it's design and fluidity. I have passed my Note down to my brother and now somewhat regret it because I do miss having the large screen and s-pen.
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I changed over to the s4 a few months ago and lent my note to a friend. Sure the s4 spec wise is better, but nothing will compare to my note. Also I can't stand the stupid front button on the s4.... Whoever thought that it looked good should be shot!!! I miss the clean and uninterrupted look of the note, so nice. I still get to cradle my note from time to time and knowing I still own it relives me.
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I would like to hear what you guys would do so read on. Here is a little background story.
So I have hadddd the galaxy nexus since it came out on verizon and love the stock feel and look. Six months ago I had a problem with my nexus and verizon sent me a GS3 which was an amazing phone compared to the nexus hardware wise. The battery was way better, the screen seem so much brighter, speaker much louder and did I say the batter was way better yet? So I kept the GS3 for about a month and a half and eneded up buying another galaxy nexus off craigs list Why you ask? Because I missed the stock experience even thou the GS3 was better in hardware I still loved the stock experience. I did flash aosp on the GS3 but there was always something that wasn't working properly and I'm sure you all know the feeling. Then about a month ago I sold the GS3, kept the Gnex and had an opportunity of buying a Note 2. Same thing here, huge batter life (lasted me about a day and a half), huge screen and loud speakers, pretty much a GS3 on steroids, and lastly it's very big so I would like something a little smaller. Here I am again finding my self using my Gnex all the time and the note 2 sitting. Why you ask? Stock experience is what I like best (my opinion). So here is what I have learned. I love stock android and I have realized that I have been flashing CM sine the HTC EVO, battery life is very important specially after owning a note 2 you get spoiled not having to look at battery percentage all day no matter how hard you use the phone, and a good camera.
Here is what I'm thinking since I'm on verizon with unlimited data:
Sell the Note 2 to get (and please tell me about your experience with the GS4)
1-Galaxy s4 (developer edition or the normal verzion phone?) - great hardware, camera, battery life? you tell me since you guys own it. And lastly how are the 4.2.2 and 4.3 rom ports to this phone since there is a GPE with same hardware, what are the problems with it if any or is it a perfect port?
2-Droid Maxx - close to stock android and great batter life, the bad side you have locked down bootloader and capacitive buttons
3-Moto X- love the form factor, close to stock android,same as droid maxx, on screen keys which I love but still dont know about batter life
In the end I am thinking about getting the GS4 due to its large batter, awsome screen and speaker and I would like to run aosp only on this phone if you guys who are running it could give me feedback on the roms out there I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
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4- LG G2- beautiful screen, what looks to be a great battery life and good camera, great speaker and edge to edge screen but will there be developers working on it to get CM or other aosp roms , and the UI looks worse than tw. Just unknown right now
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I would like to hear what you guys would do so read on. Here is a little background story.
So I have hadddd the galaxy nexus since it came out on verizon and love the stock feel and look. Six months ago I had a problem with my nexus and verizon sent me a GS3 which was an amazing phone compared to the nexus hardware wise. The battery was way better, the screen seem so much brighter, speaker much louder and did I say the batter was way better yet? So I kept the GS3 for about a month and a half and eneded up buying another galaxy nexus off craigs list Why you ask? Because I missed the stock experience even thou the GS3 was better in hardware I still loved the stock experience. I did flash aosp on the GS3 but there was always something that wasn't working properly and I'm sure you all know the feeling. Then about a month ago I sold the GS3, kept the Gnex and had an opportunity of buying a Note 2. Same thing here, huge batter life (lasted me about a day and a half), huge screen and loud speakers, pretty much a GS3 on steroids, and lastly it's very big so I would like something a little smaller. Here I am again finding my self using my Gnex all the time and the note 2 sitting. Why you ask? Stock experience is what I like best (my opinion). So here is what I have learned. I love stock android and I have realized that I have been flashing CM sine the HTC EVO, battery life is very important specially after owning a note 2 you get spoiled not having to look at battery percentage all day no matter how hard you use the phone, and a good camera.
Here is what I'm thinking since I'm on verizon with unlimited data:
Sell the Note 2 to get (and please tell me about your experience with the GS4)
1-Galaxy s4 (developer edition or the normal verzion phone?) - great hardware, camera, battery life? you tell me since you guys own it. And lastly how are the 4.2.2 and 4.3 rom ports to this phone since there is a GPE with same hardware, what are the problems with it if any or is it a perfect port?
2-Droid Maxx - close to stock android and great batter life, the bad side you have locked down bootloader and capacitive buttons
3-Moto X- love the form factor, close to stock android,same as droid maxx, on screen keys which I love but still dont know about batter life
In the end I am thinking about getting the GS4 due to its large batter, awsome screen and speaker and I would like to run aosp only on this phone if you guys who are running it could give me feedback on the roms out there I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
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GS4 has been nothing but great for me.. I wouldn't trade it for ANY of the other phones I've had in the past. The experience thus far has been second to none. One man's opinion. Battery life alone is a deal maker. On the other hand the camera is pretty darn good and the physical size and feel to me is perfection. Super thin and light. Even with a case it's noticeably lighter than my Rezound was stock. To me it's a no brainer.
I have a GS4 on stock unrooted firmware. It is easily the best experience I've had with Android. The 1080 screen is nothing short of phenomenal. I wasn't sure if I would notice anything over 720 (my GS3, N2, GNex) but there's definitely something to be appreciated.
As far as battery life, I get anywhere from 4-6 hours of screen on time. About 20-23 hours of total battery life, hitting the red at about 20 - that's without the power saving mode (lower brightness, adjust screen time, under clock from 1.9GHz to 1.3GHz). Coming from a GNex I'm sure you can appreciate the nightmare that is battery life on it.
Performance wise, even with TouchWiz this phone flies. Enable Force GPU Rendering and it's about as fluid as it gets.
Long story short, you may come to miss AOSP, but with minor customization you can at least simulate the experience. I say go for it.
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I love my GS4 but make sure if you want to put any Roms on it to make sure its on the mdk build and don't accept the update. Get home and root right away. Also I originally got the 16 and ended up returning for the 32 gig. I had problems with SD card unmounting so I just rather not mess with it. Both my phones shipped from there warehouse with mdk builds.
Are the aosp builds stable for the gs4? What's broken?
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I'm on a very recent cm 10.1 nightly (8/07 I think). There is a call audio hanging thing, but that seems to be fixed by a phone apk that is around page 123ish of the official nightly thread. Other than that and the horrendous bluetooth stack in aosp 4.2.2, it is very stable and everything seems to work.
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Are the aosp builds stable for the gs4? What's broken?
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I've been running liquidsmooth for a few weeks now and everything works perfectly...very fast and responsive, GPS works, great battery life, awesome customization, the whole nine.
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I've been running liquidsmooth for a few weeks now and everything works perfectly...very fast and responsive, GPS works, great battery life, awesome customization, the whole nine.
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That is what I wanted to know. So there are no problems with GPS, camera, any FC's, battery life, data issues and or any screen flickering, right?
Thanks again for all the input. Keep chiming in
If you are not a big flasher, I say wait for the Moto X. The S4 has the developer software but is it really worth paying more for software.
CM, aokp, and other ROMs have milestones that are stable. You can also go that route.
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That is what I wanted to know. So there are no problems with GPS, camera, any FC's, battery life, data issues and or any screen flickering, right?
Thanks again for all the input. Keep chiming in
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Nope, no problems...running liquidsmooth 2.9 and it's phenomenal.
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I went from the gnex to the s4 this week and a after just a few days I am in the same place as you were with your s3. The hardware improvement is fantastic and the battery life issue being gone from my life is almost worth it by itself. But I really miss the stock experience and especially the experience I had in the two weeks with 4.3, which made the gnex like a new phone again. Not being able to flash a stock rom is driving me crazy (the phone was being updated to me7 before I even left the store). I'd wait to see how the Moto X looks to you before you jump in on this one
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I went from the gnex to the s4 this week and a after just a few days I am in the same place as you were with your s3. The hardware improvement is fantastic and the battery life issue being gone from my life is almost worth it by itself. But I really miss the stock experience and especially the experience I had in the two weeks with 4.3, which made the gnex like a new phone again. Not being able to flash a stock rom is driving me crazy (the phone was being updated to me7 before I even left the store). I'd wait to see how the Moto X looks to you before you jump in on this one
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So you understand going from stock android to TW is a tough move for some. So far I am really liking the moto X from all the reviews but Im still having a hard time to pay full asking for its hardware when compared to the other high end phone, because remember I will have to buy my next phone out right or used depending on what I decide to go with. I decided and have put my note 2 on craigslist for sale. I love the note but the phone is a bit too big at times.
I'm really liking all the hardware on the LG G2 but like I said earlier I'll have to wait and see if there is going to be devs working on it. Droid Maxx may also be a good pick due to its software and huge battery. After owning a Gnex you understand how battery life on your next phone needs to be like. The GS4 sounds looks really good too, maybe I'll just do a straight up trade with the note 2 for a GS4.
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If you are not a big flasher, I say wait for the Moto X. The S4 has the developer software but is it really worth paying more for software.
CM, aokp, and other ROMs have milestones that are stable. You can also go that route.
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This is part of my problem, I love to flash different roms and try them out. So the newer update on the GS4 breaks rooting, correct? If I'm going to go with anything else other the GS4 I'll have to wait and see what the devs will be able to root, that is also an important note to take, at least for me.
Get the Developer Edition
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I would like to hear what you guys would do so read on. Here is a little background story.
So I have hadddd the galaxy nexus since it came out on verizon and love the stock feel and look. Six months ago I had a problem with my nexus and verizon sent me a GS3 which was an amazing phone compared to the nexus hardware wise. The battery was way better, the screen seem so much brighter, speaker much louder and did I say the batter was way better yet? So I kept the GS3 for about a month and a half and eneded up buying another galaxy nexus off craigs list Why you ask? Because I missed the stock experience even thou the GS3 was better in hardware I still loved the stock experience. I did flash aosp on the GS3 but there was always something that wasn't working properly and I'm sure you all know the feeling. Then about a month ago I sold the GS3, kept the Gnex and had an opportunity of buying a Note 2. Same thing here, huge batter life (lasted me about a day and a half), huge screen and loud speakers, pretty much a GS3 on steroids, and lastly it's very big so I would like something a little smaller. Here I am again finding my self using my Gnex all the time and the note 2 sitting. Why you ask? Stock experience is what I like best (my opinion). So here is what I have learned. I love stock android and I have realized that I have been flashing CM sine the HTC EVO, battery life is very important specially after owning a note 2 you get spoiled not having to look at battery percentage all day no matter how hard you use the phone, and a good camera.
Here is what I'm thinking since I'm on verizon with unlimited data:
Sell the Note 2 to get (and please tell me about your experience with the GS4)
1-Galaxy s4 (developer edition or the normal verzion phone?) - great hardware, camera, battery life? you tell me since you guys own it. And lastly how are the 4.2.2 and 4.3 rom ports to this phone since there is a GPE with same hardware, what are the problems with it if any or is it a perfect port?
2-Droid Maxx - close to stock android and great batter life, the bad side you have locked down bootloader and capacitive buttons
3-Moto X- love the form factor, close to stock android,same as droid maxx, on screen keys which I love but still dont know about batter life
In the end I am thinking about getting the GS4 due to its large batter, awsome screen and speaker and I would like to run aosp only on this phone if you guys who are running it could give me feedback on the roms out there I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
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Get the galaxy s4 dev edition straight from samsung. I have the normal verizon version and had to return it after a hard brick and they sent me the me7 updated version With the dev version you wont ever have to worry about a locked bootloader and have free reign to flash as you desire. There are sooooo many awesome roms for the device already and they just keep getting better. The sheer power of the s4 makes its possibilities pretty endless. So yeah. I suggest the dev edition s4. Hope this helps you in your quest for pure awesomeness!
Edit: if you werent aware the vruame7 update to the verizon s4 completely blocks custom recovery and an unsecure bootloader. There is no fix or workaround at this time. Root has been achieved but if you like custom roms the update is a huge downer.
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This is part of my problem, I love to flash different roms and try them out. So the newer update on the GS4 breaks rooting, correct? If I'm going to go with anything else other the GS4 I'll have to wait and see what the devs will be able to root, that is also an important note to take, at least for me.
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Unfortunately for me, the way I feel about it is this.
If the boot loader isn't unlocked before 6 months of the phone release, then I am NO way selling it for a DEV Edition phone.
I would be selling the SG4, and getting the HTC One (granted it comes to VZW)
as I know that S-OFF will most likley come (basically boot loader unlock)
and if not, HTC and Verizon have a set up called HTC-Dev.
Once you purchase your phone you can go to the HTC-Dev website and unlock your phone, (voiding warranty of coarse, but I've sent them back with this plenty times)
I would rather buy a phone I can get on contract price and unlock it like with HTC, than buy the Dev Edition off contract.
The bounty is a getting higher and higher, hopefully someone will claim their well deserved pot O' gold.
Take the Galaxy S4 Google (Developer) Edition, beacuse the updates are managed by Google and not from Samsung.
So, you have always the latest update
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Take the Galaxy S4 Google (Developer) Edition, beacuse the updates are managed by Google and not from Samsung.
So, you have always the latest update
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Google edition is not the same thing as the developer edition. The google edition is only available for AT&T and t-mobile. It's sold by Google, while the developer edition has Verizon bands available sold by samsung
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Google edition is not the same thing as the developer edition. The google edition is only available for AT&T and t-mobile. It's sold by Google, while the developer edition has Verizon bands available sold by samsung
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Thanks for the explanation
I have had my Gs4 for a mouth and a half and love it. The biggest difference would be its not stock android. But if your willing to root then you could flash the Google edition that Dubbsy has ported over to Verizon. Also if you don't want to worry about battery life you could buy a extended battery or an extra stock battery with a wall charger and carry that battery around. I currently run a ZeroLemon 7500 mAh extended battery and get 2 to 2 1/2 days of battery.
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Hey there!
So I recently lost my Galaxy S4 (no questions asked, please) which I was very happy with. I played a lot around with different roms, kernels and stuff.
Now I'm thinking about getting the LG G2 because it seems like the cool new thing on the market. I notice, though, that there aren't really that big scene around for it - I really base that in the forum activity here on XDA. So I would like to know what people's experience is with this thing, especially if you've played around with the SGS4 as well.
A bit off topic in here - I would like to know how it is to root and mod, is it easily bricked? That's one thing I really liked on the Samsung phones in general.
Do you think there will be a bigger scene once it gets out to more people? And roms as well? I know it's hard to live up to the Samsung hype but still...
L8r!
Don't know what to tell you. This phone rocks. The battery the screen the form factor. Couple it with the latest cpu and Graphic ram (what ever that is). This phone packs the best spec right now. The camera is no slouch either with OIS it is up there with the best.
As for developments, this device is so ready. Right now there is root and twrp and CWM. Read it somewhere about kernel source is released (need to fact check on that). This device is more than ready for development.
But still people are waiting one the fence until the released of nexus 5 to make their choices.
But for me I have already made my mine with 3000mah vs 2300mah battery there is nothing nexus 5 can do to beat this.
-LG G2
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Don't know what to tell you. This phone rocks. The battery the screen the form factor. Couple it with the latest cpu and Graphic ram (what ever that is). This phone packs the best spec right now. The camera is no slouch either with OIS it is up there with the best.
As for developments, this device is so ready. Right now there is root and twrp and CWM. Read it somewhere about kernel source is released (need to fact check on that). This device is more than ready for development.
But still people are waiting one the fence until the released of nexus 5 to make their choices.
But for me I have already made my mine with 3000mah vs 2300mah battery there is nothing nexus 5 can do to beat this.
-LG G2
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This. Plus devs have already made announcements this past week that they're working on this phone. You'll be fine
I've had the S4 (twice), and it doesn't even compare to this phone. The S4 was an un-optimized piece of trash imo. This phone is the opposite where everything is quick and the features actually make sense.
The screen is better, performance is better and battery life is much better. Just grab this phone, you won't be disappointed.
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Awesome phone, just got it, camera and vid are awesome, cam software could be improved a bit but really it's the best phone I've used, def like it better than s4.. and the nex5 battery is a deal breaker, coupled with an 8mp camera I read it's supposed to have... definitely G2.
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I've had the s4 , I own the g2 and just recently picked up the note 3 ,Def can't go wrong with the g2 it's the best battery life hands down even compared with the N3
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I have gs4 and htc one both good phone's till the g2 came in to my life. I thanks my wife every day for the gift. Best phone I have ever try. Battery is just amazing. Speed ufff. Looooks sick, the screen is beautiful, camera amazing. You ask me and it's a 10 stars phone.
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Well, just hit it and bought it on the web. Coming one of the first days next week, really looking forward to it
But keep coming with input, pros and cons...
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Well, just hit it and bought it on the web. Coming one of the first days next week, really looking forward to it
But keep coming with input, pros and cons...
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You're going to love it! Now that I think about it, I haven't had a phone where just about everyone who I've asked is in love with it and raves about it this much (check the other forums S4, HTC One, Note 3, 5s etc)
The G2 is that good. I had the HTC One for a week & took it back to get the G2 once I saw it at the store & don't miss the One @ all. I even waited 2 extra weeks to get the white version.
I'm very particular about the phones I get & how I use them. Trust me, this one will also get put through its paces. In the short time I've had it, I can tell you, its no slouch, the battery is insane, it just won't die no matter what I try to do & this is on the stock ROM!!!!
All I've done it turn off Carrier IQ which you can do without Root! Whoa. You'll see in a few days when you get it.
P.S
There's a Dev on the forums who mentioned they're making ROMs for our phone. In a few weeks this place is going to be buzzing & you'll be amazed @ what your new phone can do
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LG g2 has been confirmed cheating on benchmarks as well.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks
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ha good one... the screen CAN'T compare! I have had the HTC One, S4 and S4 active and this screen is SO much better. Plus everything else it better too. So go play with one and you will see what we mean
I don't normally jump into these types of threads but I have to voice my opinion. I've always been a Samsung fan and love their phones. I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus and have had plenty of hands on experience with the S3. This phone easily trumps both, hands down. The speed of this phone is amazing, the screen is beautiful and not over saturated like the AMOLED displays, the features are endless (I've had the phone since Thursday and I'm still finding little things out) and development is sure to pick up soon. The rear button placement does take a day or so to get used to but with the Knock On feature I hardly ever press the power button. Go through the 30 Day Challenge videos on PhoneDog about the phone. Their biggest gripe is they claim the phone is TOO FAST!
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MohJee said:
LG g2 has been confirmed cheating on benchmarks as well.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks
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niceto see the note cheats on all but one, LG only on 2.
Anyway whos to say these are cheats, if you run your mobile optimally by changing characteristics, it can hardly be called a cheat, its more optimalization.
also as its been debunked a thousand times over, benchmarks say nothing, its all about your percieved performance.
What is wrong with maxing out to phone setting before benchmark? It is not like they faked the score or anything. I remember my PC days when we used to freeze the cpu and overclock the **** out of it. That may be the extreme example but it is what your hardware is capable off.
-LG G2
Lets just say I'm surprised how good this phone is. The best smart phone I've every owned. My last phone was a GNex with stock 4.3.
Coming from the s4, the screen ALONE makes the G2 a winner to me. The outdoor performance of the g2 KILLS amoled.
Battery life is amazing. I average about 15 hours a charge. Heck, today I'm going on 13 hours since I unplugged it and got 47% battery left. (Location service turned off. I use an app called "smart shortcuts to give me a shortcut to location services for when I need Maps)
Performance wise, this is as smooth as 4.3 gpe ROM I was running on my s4. And that's STOCK.
those factors alone actually made rethink about rooting. But I needed to root to hide those dang on soft keys
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While looking at cases I'm wondering what the difference is between the international version and the carrier versions like Sprint/T-Mobile...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cruzerlite-...F8&qid=1381163951&sr=8-93&keywords=lg+g2+case
It says Sprint only but I can't really see how it should be that different?
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While looking at cases I'm wondering what the difference is between the international version and the carrier versions like Sprint/T-Mobile...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cruzerlite-...F8&qid=1381163951&sr=8-93&keywords=lg+g2+case
It says Sprint only but I can't really see how it should be that different?
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It doesn't have the cutout for the mic above the flash like on the AT&T version. Other than that, I don't see a difference.
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LG G2
I too must confess, (like anyone really cares), I have been a fan of the Galaxy line since they started making them, and I was impressed with both the S4 and N3; was even contemplating picking that up, since my wife and I were due for an upgrade in a few days, she is bent on going for the N3 so that was out of the question, (can't have us both walking around with the same phone), but then I came across the LG G2 on one of those comparison videos and immediately fell in love. After that I went searching for information all over, which brought me back here, because I knew that if this phone was really as hot as I thought it was then it was sure to be buzzing on this forum. And I'm glad to see you guys don't disappoint. You've helped me make my choice that much easier. And can't wait to get my hands on this phone in a few days.
I do have a few questions though:
Is the LG OS on top of the Android OS easy to deal with or is it cumbersome and superfluous?
Would I truly miss not having an micro SD card slot, or is the phone so much ****s and giggles that I won't even notice?
What was the longest time someone has gone without charging their battery, with a full assortment of apps running?
My son has decided to get a G2 rather than Nexus 5 as the price is identical now. There are many discussions about bugs with 4.4.2 (knock on etc ) and voip not working. I just wondered what had now been fixed and what problems still remained? It seems a no-brainer getting the G2 at the current price over the Nexus 5 - is it the right decision?
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I was in the same scenario as you.
It all comes down to personal preference. Price-wise they are pretty equal now, some sites have the N5 priced higher than the G2 lol.
How I look at it: N5 for highest XDA support, guaranteed fast firmware updates and if you want a smaller screen. G2 for bigger battery and more features built in.
I went for G2 since I dont have anything against the LG UI so I havent even rooted mine. No lagg at all experienced with stock 4.4.2 for me and I'm enjoying the phone as it came out of the box. To me it seems like I got more value of my money since they are priced so equal now.
Plus, I have previouly owned a Nexus 4 and I just hated its screen colours. Personal preference as mentioned, but you cant really go wrong either way since both devices are great
Oh, and the knock on thing on KK bug only appears to some right after the update. Its fixed by updating the touch in the hidden menu. Takes a sec.
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I was at the same condition with the guy above. Owned a Nexus 4. Loved it. Rooted, themed, custom romed, xposeded anything you can imagine. I did everything with it but it never gave me same satisfaction as my G2. I was going to buy a N5 but when I saw G2 I fell in love with it.
Unlike me, my son will just want it to work out of the box and has no interest in rooting etc, so I guess he has made the best choice.
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I was at the same condition with the guy above. Owned a Nexus 4. Loved it. Rooted, themed, custom romed, xposeded anything you can imagine. I did everything with it but it never gave me same satisfaction as my G2. I was going to buy a N5 but when I saw G2 I fell in love with it.
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I've just gone from the Nexus 4 (running CM11 nightlies) to the G3 and love it. Seems weird not feeling I need to do anything to get it to be the device I want it to be. Apart from rooting I've pretty much left it as it is.
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My son has decided to get a G2 rather than Nexus 5 as the price is identical now. There are many discussions about bugs with 4.4.2 (knock on etc ) and voip not working. I just wondered what had now been fixed and what problems still remained? It seems a no-brainer getting the G2 at the current price over the Nexus 5 - is it the right decision?
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Since the day I bought it (November 2013) I literally had 0 problems with this phone. Everything works (I can't say the same about VoIP, though, cause I don't use it).
NB: I own a D802
I had a Galaxy S3 (AT&T, not i9300 - wish the development community was even 1/5 of the size...) Basically used AOKP and my favorite KToonsez' KT747 Kernel with his own app KTweaker. Also used Quantum ROM, built ground up based on CM11 and was the first 4.3 aosp rom! Dude made it so sick it was way better than Samsung TouchWiz. Those were the days.
Now I run Cloudy S3 and use an lg based stock rom unlike EVER. Also Dorimanx 8.8 Kernel!
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I had a Galaxy S3 (AT&T, not i9300 - wish the development community was even 1/5 of the size...) Basically used AOKP and my favorite KToonsez' KT747 Kernel with his own app KTweaker. Also used Quantum ROM, built ground up based on CM11 and was the first 4.3 aosp rom! Dude made it so sick it was way better than Samsung TouchWiz. Those were the days.
Now I run Cloudy S3 and use an lg based stock rom unlike EVER. Also Dorimanx 8.8 Kernel!
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That's my only gripe about the g2...i miss my KT kernels...hated Samsung though and had cm on it from day 1
I vote N5 because it has better dev support, as do all Nexus devices. Honestly phones that aren't Galaxy S or Nexus see support die off quickly.
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I also had Nexus 4, which obviously has better development support but with poor battery which always made feel incomplete. I was chasing all battery saving tips all the time.
I know Nexus 5 has better development support compared to G2 but has a battery that is 16%-20% smaller. So really you will have to decide whether development and ability to play with latest stuff is more important or longevity is more important.
For me choice is was straight forward so I chose G2.
I appreciate what people do for development but for me it also became overwhelming with Nexus4 with flashing and finding right ROM, which sort of became self-unfulfilling prophecy of right ROM .
I have VS980 and haven't moved from Stock in months, except for few root tweaks such ad Greenify and Xposed modules.
So in the end, you gotta decide for yourself what's important and make that a choice.
Haha I completely agree, thats the disadvantage of high XDA acitivity. I had the N4 when N5 was out. I remember some N4 users were starting to say that development for N4 was slowing down because of N5 and yet there were 20+ threads that had new replies every day lol. Flashaholics all over the place, I didnt know what to start with so I just went for the easy solution - famous custom stock ROM called Purity. In all my N4 time I probably flashed 4 out of 150 ROMs lol
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I have N4 and few days ago i decided to bought one more powerful device between N5 and G2, in my country the same this 2 devices have same price. I choiced G2, have more features than N5. Everyone choosing what she's like.
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I came from N4 to G2..
Was fed up of N4's washed out colors & stock android & battery life & camera... lol
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I came from N4 to G2..
Was fed up of N4's washed out colors & stock android & battery life & camera... lol
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I still gotta buy it but idd washed out colors we're bad but that could be fixed with Color profiles and or with The Tardis where 3 profiles were included i thought. RohanM I get your feeling also about batterylife & Camera especially in night but stock android that was also the huge Dissapointment for me because when you browse the N4 Android development forums there are only All stock android like roms only with some features more so i was getting annoyed of it and switched to miui although the batterylife was horrible there and late notifications.
Still gotta choose G2 Or N5. In my opinion with awesomeness G2 but with durability N5. With durability i mean the protection/flash risks/display problems maybe.
But philevy your son better needs to get the G2 cause its also more user friendly in my opinion then the N5 and if he doesnt like the G2 Stock then he could always change to something like Cyanogenmod or mokee idk.
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I still gotta buy it but idd washed out colors we're bad but that could be fixed with Color profiles and or with The Tardis where 3 profiles were included i thought. RohanM I get your feeling also about batterylife & Camera especially in night but stock android that was also the huge Dissapointment for me because when you browse the N4 Android development forums there are only All stock android like roms only with some features more so i was getting annoyed of it and switched to miui although the batterylife was horrible there and late notifications.
Still gotta choose G2 Or N5. In my opinion with awesomeness G2 but with durability N5. With durability i mean the protection/flash risks/display problems maybe.
But philevy your son better needs to get the G2 cause its also more user friendly in my opinion then the N5 and if he doesnt like the G2 Stock then he could always change to something like Cyanogenmod or mokee idk.
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If only that N4 came with an Amoled Screen + 3k mah battery then tht would be a killer..
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If only that N4 came with an Amoled Screen + 3k mah battery then tht would be a killer..
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Only the 3K battery and a better camera with FM radio would be my dream phone. I don't need amoled screen since i already had 2 phones with amoled screen and they got burn in's which couldn't go away.