Hi, since my colossal fu*kup of some time ago I'm thinking about unlocking the bootloader and beginning with flashing roms and most importantly having a fully working recovery to repair the device if I mess it up again.
What I was thinking, as unlocking the bootloader will result in a freshly formatted internal memory, is to flash the custom recovery for locked bootloaders, make a complete nandroid backup (I also plan to backup every app with Titanium), unlock bootloader and get on with the fun.
What I'm aiming at is, if I'm fed up with custom roms or if I feel better with the stock one, to be able to return to stock with all my data at the ready.
I have my TA partition backup, and I understand that relocking the BL with a custom rom would be pointless:
If I feel like going back to pure stock, I simply reboot into recovery, wipe all data, cache, dalvik, restore my nandroid backup, relock the BL after all is done.
Am I right in all the steps above?
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Looks good to me. Just start by installing Recovery and try making a NANDROID. If all goes well then move on to the next step.
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LordManhattan said:
Looks good to me. Just start by installing Recovery and try making a NANDROID. If all goes well then move on to the next step.
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Thanks mate. You may be on the dark side, but you enlightened the way...
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Hey guys, I've got a hopefully simple question. I'm gonna be going to Vegas soon, and I'm running on an ICS rom, but I want to be able to use the good camera and my 4G for while I'm there. However, I don't want to have to set everything back up once I come back one by one since I'll only be gone for 4 days.
So can I do a Nandroid backup, save the file, re-lock my phone and put it back to root, then once I come back unlock my phone and then restore said backup so everything will be the way it was? Sorry if this is a mouthful, but that would be my ideal way of doing things. If not, are there some good alternatives?
Thanks guys!
As far as I can tell, that should work. Just make sure you remove your custom recovery before you relock.
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brain what do you mean by "custom recovery before you relock" how do you do that?
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brain what do you mean by "custom recovery before you relock" how do you do that?
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If you have cwm installed and you try to relock it, your phone won't boot (iirc). If you sbf back to stock, it will reinstall the Android stock recovery and relock your phone, and you'll be all set. Otherwise, you'll have to find the Android recovery somewhere to download, then use Fastboot to install it, then relock (and to be honest, I can't remember how to do that. I think I remember people having problems flashing the relock file.) Easiest is to sbf after making your backup, then when you get home, unlock again, flash cwm, and restore your nandroid.
Hope that made sense.
And if you sbf and your phone bootloops, boot into the stock recovery and factory reset.
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Headed to Vegas today for the race this weekend!
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I'm pretty sure it's not possible but is there any way I can back up all of my data, settings, apps, homescreens, etc while still unrooted and s-on? I've just put hundreds of hours getting everything just right and I don't want to lose it all. I know how to backup the basics but what's the most I can do? My phone is acting up and I thing I need to do a factory reset and/or get a new phone. Thanks for your time.
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Not really possible but you can try my backup. It's in the market. It might save some of your data
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Morpheus991 said:
I'm pretty sure it's not possible but is there any way I can back up all of my data, settings, apps, homescreens, etc while still unrooted and s-on? I've just put hundreds of hours getting everything just right and I don't want to lose it all. I know how to backup the basics but what's the most I can do? My phone is acting up and I thing I need to do a factory reset and/or get a new phone. Thanks for your time.
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Here's another vote for My Backup Pro: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackupPro
Since you're not rooted, I'm not sure how much of your data it can backup / restore, but I think it can backup app data without root... I could be wrong. Nevertheless, it's a great backup app. Worth the price, but there are free versions as well.
However, I don't believe root is required in order to do a "nand" backup. What you need to do is:
Unlock your bootloader, per HTC.
Flash a custom recovery, like AR Recovery 3.15
You can follow steps 1 and 2 of Scotty's instructions here: http://androidforums.com/rezound-al...ys-noob-friendly-root-guide-start-finish.html
The caveat is that unlocking wipes your device, so... I don't know how you would get a nand backup of your device as it is right now. However, moving forward, you would be able to create nand backups, and you would not have to be rooted.
At the same time, once you unlock your bootloader and flash AR Recovery, it's incredibly simple to flash superSU and achieve root. So why not, if you're going through the trouble of unlocking so you can create a nand backup? Just sayin'...
Understand, too, that the two steps above are reversible. You can flash the stock recovery back, and you can re-lock your bootloader. If you're concerned about your warranty...
If you don't wish to go through any of these steps, then I believe My Backup Pro is going to be your best option. Some people also use Titanium Backup, but I don't find that app to be nearly as user friendly.
Thanks for the input...I've got some decisions to make.
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You can do an ADB backup and get all apps and data without ANY mods. My lady has the rezound and is very disappointed with the ics ota update so I pulled all the data before I unlock. Its a new feature with the ics system. Just be sure to set a backup password in the developers section of the settings.
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So ive been having issues with dhacker29's roms making my phone reboot and hang on the bootloader. Well the latest one, the selinux build which he put more bugs into an already screwed up reboot cycle it worked good when I first installed it, than it did one of its forced reboots.
Phone hasnt booted since, restored to previous rom that worked fine. Stock, all kinds of things tried. It just hangs on the motorola logo now.
Anybody got any ideas for me?
When you go back to other ROMs are you restoring apps and data along with them via Titanium Backup or another backup app? If so, that might be the cause. It may be something in your apps, not the ROM. And as always wipe cache and dalvik cache after any flash.
Just restoring back to a TWRP backup. not using tibackup or anything like that,
Ive tried wiping dalvik, Tried a factory reset on these backups. Even tried fix permissions. Still nothing.
Probably a bad backup
If you wipe fully (yes I mean a full wipe) and then restore a back up from working phone and it just loops, chances are you had a bad backup
Just wipe clean and flash a new rom
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Probably a bad backup
If you wipe fully (yes I mean a full wipe) and then restore a back up from working phone and it just loops, chances are you had a bad backup
Just wipe clean and flash a new rom
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I did some posting in the thread for the rom. 2 others had the same issue where none of there backups worked after flashing that rom version and after it crashed and rebooted it never came back. So I doubt it was a bad backup just something weird with the rom
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Unless there is something very strange about this ROM (as in it corrupts other partitions but so highly doubtful), backups are 100% separate from another ROM, this means a full wipe will erase everything about you current ROM and then restoring a backup from a previous ROM will work, so long ad the backup is good and the wipe is clean.
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I don't know. The rom does have a form or selinux in it so maybe that caused it. I don't know the specifics of what selinux does internally just what the goal is
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Doesn't sound like it should brake anything, if the ROM won't boot for you that's one thing, but completely wiping your phone then flashing a new ROM should fix your issue.
I am highly suspect that the ROM in question could have done anything at all to your recovery or your backups.
You said you are using twrp, have you tried wiping/formating all partitions and then flashing a known working ROM? Does your phone have fast boot mode? If so this may be an even cleaner wipe to do prior to the flash
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I had to fastboot back to stock to get anything to work.. No rom I tried would boot
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Again, without knowing anything about your phone, the ROM would not affect your bootloader/radio/recovery no firmware should be changed just by flashing a rom,.
If it won't boot after a full wipe then there is some other issue, but if you were able to fix things by flashing back to stock then good.
Without knowing more specifics about your phone or the ROM you had issues with I guess I can't help you any further, so long as your are up and running now I would suggest just to stay away from any ROM you have had issues with, make new backups and test them (yes fully wipe before a restore and being your phone has fastboot wipe there) and best of luck to you
Happy flashing!
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RAZR hd... Cm10.1 on the post started by epinter.. You can read how others had the same issue. I had 4 backups and non boot looped. It would hang at the bootloader and never even make it to the boot animation. Apparently it's something nobody's seen before but me and 2 others there have experienced it. So it's not a 1 time fluke.
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So just to be sure before I break something... Do we need to do any unlocking or back up IMEI with this device before installing a ROM?
I had to do both on my S3, not finding much on either topic here for the S4.
I did make a nandroid of all 7 partitions (or whatever number it is) with TWRP.
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I'm pretty sure you need to have the bootloader unlocked before you install any ROMs. If you don't and don't have any recovery then you're just going to brick your phone.
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There is no bootloader unlock currently, just the loki patch. Your good to go with that because youve got twrp installed already. Dont need to back up anything you listed. Its a good idea to backup your stock rom tho in case something goes wrong with a custom rom.
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Hey guys..
Still new to all this and I've come across some terminology that's a little different that what I'm accustomed to. I want to know how to create a backup image of the phone similar to when you create one of a PC that you can use to restore to a particular state, apps, system settings and all.
From what I've read this is called a nandroid backup. Does this require a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP or can it be done without it? I know that flashing a custom ROM or recovery trips KNOX. But does simply doing a backup trip KNOX as well?
Thanks for your patience and advice
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faz4ever said:
Hey guys..
Still new to all this and I've come across some terminology that's a little different that what I'm accustomed to. I want to know how to create a backup image of the phone similar to when you create one of a PC that you can use to restore to a particular state, apps, system settings and all.
From what I've read this is called a nandroid backup. Does this require a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP or can it be done without it? I know that flashing a custom ROM or recovery trips KNOX. But does simply doing a backup trip KNOX as well?
Thanks for your patience and advice
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I don't know of any way to create a BU image without rooting. There are several great videos that will show you how within 10 minutes and it really is quite safe. Make sure you choose the root method for your carrier. (Probably Sprint because you are in the Sprint forum). I rooted my Note 3 yesterday and I am very happy. I recommend the video by QBKing77. After you are rooted, you can keep your stock ROM or try one or more of the custom ROMs available right here at XDA. Once you root, there are a number of excellent programs only available to rooted devices. After rooting and installing your recovery (I recommend TWRP but there are alternatives), it is very simple to create a Nandroid BU. It is a complete system image and will take your phone back to the state where it was at the time you created your BU.
I haven't tested this yet but here is a method to root without tripping the counter:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496454
Thank you for the response. I know you can root without tripping knox, but I was wondering if flashing a recovery app like twrp or cwm were the only ways to create a nandroid BU
Thanks again!
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I will leave .5% but I am 99.5% sure that you need to flash a recovery in order to do a Nandroid.
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faz4ever said:
Thank you for the response. I know you can root without tripping knox, but I was wondering if flashing a recovery app like twrp or cwm were the only ways to create a nandroid BU
Thanks again!
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That's really the only way, I would suggest using Twrp and not Cwm.. If you want to screw with your phone, just follow qbkings method and you'll be good to go in about ten minutes. It's worth it if you like to screw with stuff.
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Right on.. Thanks!
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