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So I noticed on my note 3 that S-Notes is way better than it was on the Galaxy note 10.1 and Galaxy Note II. There are more useful templates and more useful features (mainly, syncing with more services like dropbox and evernote).
As people get more experience, can anyone tell me which service they prefer? I'm split because I prefer LectureNotes for its power and the Cornell Note-taking template. But the S-note app is better integrated into touchwiz and has more powerful options now with automatic evernote and dropbox syncing.
For me i think it will be down to the S-note's ability to flawlessly import pdf's and annotate it
demz92 said:
For me i think it will be down to the S-note's ability to flawlessly import pdf's and annotate it
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For that purpose I think EzPdf is way better than S-Note, at least if you want to make a workflow of annotated pdf's.
demz92 said:
For me i think it will be down to the S-note's ability to flawlessly import pdf's and annotate it
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what do you mean when you say annotate, because honestly lecturenotes does it flawlessly. you can import and then write on it, type on it, draw on it, insert pictures on it, basically everything you can do on a normal blank paper.
dteg said:
what do you mean when you say annotate, because honestly lecturenotes does it flawlessly. you can import and then write on it, type on it, draw on it, insert pictures on it, basically everything you can do on a normal blank paper.
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yea, i've heard but im not sure what the widget looks like, the looks of the s note's widget looks pretty nice, like something i'd dedicated a whole home screen to
demz92 said:
yea, i've heard but im not sure what the widget looks like, the looks of the s note's widget looks pretty nice, like something i'd dedicated a whole home screen to
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i've never used the widget before, but i'm going to fix that right now and fill you in.
ok:
i'm just assuming here but still; i'm gonna assume that S-note has a widget where if placed on a homescreen you can simply type in without opening the app itself. lecturenotes from the few tests i just made can't do that. you can either have a "widget" (really an app icon) that can open to a particular page that you specify or you can have one that just opens lecturenotes, i see nothing that would allow you to edit without opening the app itself. definitely not something worth dedicating a homescreen to....
dteg said:
what do you mean when you say annotate, because honestly lecturenotes does it flawlessly. you can import and then write on it, type on it, draw on it, insert pictures on it, basically everything you can do on a normal blank paper.
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Can you highlight and add sticky notes?
Han Solo 1 said:
Can you highlight and add sticky notes?
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You can use the pen to highlight or underline, but no sticky notes. You can however create a text box and write in any notes, but that's as close as you can get.
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You can use the pen to highlight or underline, but no sticky notes. You can however create a text box and write in any notes, but that's as close as you can get.
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How do you highlight?
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I got frustrated with S Note and ditched it. I'm using Lecture notes now and really like it. The main thing that killed S Note for me was the way the notes were organized. Felt very cumbersome and non-intuitive. I wish they had left the UI for browsing folders and notebooks the same. Or maybe I just had too much trouble transferring my old notes into it.
Anyways I was wondering if anyone knew how to quickly expend a single page in lecture notes. I know I can go into the settings and change it that way, but I'd like to be able to do it on the fly and on a page by page basis instead of a global modification of the page length.
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How do you highlight?
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I'd imagine you just select the marker tip with whatever color, then change the opacity between 10% and 40%. Whatever you're comfortable with. At least that's how I had done it in the old 10.1 model.
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gina nailed it, on how to highlight.
gina$zanboti said:
I got frustrated with S Note and ditched it. I'm using Lecture notes now and really like it. The main thing that killed S Note for me was the way the notes were organized. Felt very cumbersome and non-intuitive. I wish they had left the UI for browsing folders and notebooks the same. Or maybe I just had too much trouble transferring my old notes into it.
Anyways I was wondering if anyone knew how to quickly expend a single page in lecture notes. I know I can go into the settings and change it that way, but I'd like to be able to do it on the fly and on a page by page basis instead of a global modification of the page length.
I'd imagine you just select the marker tip with whatever color, then change the opacity between 10% and 40%. Whatever you're comfortable with. At least that's how I had done it in the old 10.1 model.
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to expend a page? you wanna know how to quickly use up a page? don't understand what you're asking but i'll cover a few bases.
to quickly add a page click the "+" on the top right or if you're using a keyboard just press the down arrow.
to delete a page you click onto the page and open menu and delete it from there. deleting isn't as simple as adding unfortunately..
@ChrisNee1988: There is no built-in highlighter, as tastes concerning highlighters differ widely. As described by gina$zanboti, you can make one of the custom pencils to act as a highlighter, choose your favorite color and width, an intermediate alpha, and enable `draws behind other colors´. To quickly change to the highlighter, you can show the pencil toolbox (select `Show pencil toolbox´ in the `pencil´ menu, can be moved around by click-and-hold and setup in the app's tools settings; a single click on a pencil sets the pencil and a double-click on a custom pencil brings up the custom pencil settings) or assign it to your stylus button (in case your stylus has a button).
@gina$zanboti: I am not entirely sure whether I understand correctly. LectureNotes' pages have a fixed size.
Does LectureNotes have handwriting to text conversion? I have been using MyScript Notes Mobile which does do this but it begins to get laggy after 2-3 pages in terms of the screen delay from writing to on screen. When I used LN, it's near instant which is awesome and I really like it overall but converting to text is really big as I export QC scripts a lot.
My problem with snote is that importing removes searchable test which is a big no-no for me. Otherwise I'd probably use it. I am using it for free hand notes and like it for that.
@TheBigSaxon: There is no handwriting recognition in LectureNotes, but there are several soft keyboards that provide this functionality (meaning that you write with stylus and the keyboard app does as if you typed it).
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So, if your main storage for notes is Evernote, what is recommended as the front end for capture of notes, including handwriting recognition. Don't want to get locked into s note or lecture notes for the actual storage - just looking for advice on the best way to recognise handwriting, capture info etc, and sync seemlessly into Evernote.
any thoughts?
Is there any way in S Note to do a vertical page to imitate a sheet of paper like lecture notes can?
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Is there any way in S Note to do a vertical page to imitate a sheet of paper like lecture notes can?
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Yes, there is a portrait template of ruled paper. Or you can use the default landscape ruled paper template, and then just rotate the tablet into portrait mode and it should rotate the page as well.
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Here is my 2 cents in using snotes and others working with pdfs
Things I like about snote:
Keeps the use of pressure sensitivity. This is something very special about our spens and I like the feel. I want to keep it when I'm writing.
This might sound stupid but this makes the writing feel the most realistic and not so machine like.
Once I'm in the editing mode I stay in the editing mode. Unlike ezpdf and lecturenotes where I have to hit the pen to start writing again and hand/back to scroll. I found this really annoying. For people annotating it may not be an issue but if you're actually taking notes and such it's a pain.
All the other special tricks with spen work in snotes well because it was made for it.
Negatives:
It has to import pdfs...This was the worst. It can't just open it as a pdf and start editing. Probably creating image type files. Not sure how lecturenotes imports pdfs because it's not available for the trial version. I imported a 200+ page pdf and it took longer than expected but now that
I have an expected time frame I may be able to deal with it.
Since it's not keeping the integrity of the pdf it can screw up some things while importing.
I'm a math guy and it screwed up a few notations here and there.
Scrolling...call me lazy but continuous scrolling is beautiful. Although I didn't like the fact that you can't be in between pages in ezpdf. While scrolling and you let go the page will automatically place itself so you see either the previous page or next page on the screen (depending on how far you let the split go past the screen).
Snote's scrolling is swipe or hit arrow right at bottom of screen. Swipe right is too slow. Animations are nice but unnecessary when turning the page. I usually like keeping the writing area in the middle of the screen. Also a reason why I want to be able to put the bottom of the page in the middle. But my hand being in the middle i think its annoying to go down to hit the right arrow. Just me being an annoying *****.
Hope this helps someone out there. =)
Edit: realized I was missing the add on to import pdfs for lecturenotes.
With short use it has a lot that I wanted. Now I dont know what I should use...
Edit 2 played with settings and im purchasing it now
@aznxkpx88: There is no need to alternate between `pencil´ and `hand´ mode in LectureNotes: You can scroll/zoom outside the `hand´ mode if you enable `allow two fingers scrolling/zooming´ in the app's input settings. Since you seem to use an S-pen (in which case you should enable `use stylus (hardware detection)´), you can also enable `allow one finger scrolling´ and scroll with one finger.
The constrain on the maximal number of pages per notebook in the trial version applies also to PDF imports.
Ever since I've switched to Android I've always wondered if there was an app that could offer the same writing experience the iPad apps had. Papyrus was one of them, however with this screen resolution I don't enjoy it anymore.
And then I spotted this gem.
INKredible has by far the best note taking experience this tablet can offer.
The devs have just begun porting their ios app (notes plus) to Android, therefore there're not a lot of features baked into the app yet.
The app has matured pretty well over the past 1.5 years, as expected
So be sure to show your support too the devs, as it may help in speeding up this process
Download the app, make some in app purchases and make this app even greater :good:
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.viettran.INKredible&hl=nl
I'd like to know your note taking experience with this app and how it compares to other note taking apps.
If you know an equally good(or better) one be sure to tell us aswell.
Comparable app(s):
-FiiNote (mentioned by crypta: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61466857&postcount=14)
turn-offs
slow rendering
the only pen worthwhile is the pencil pen (under paint mode) but it's not resizeable)
-S Note
Key features that have been successfully added since I posted this thread:
-Touch with finger to erase (s-pen only mode)
-Enable shape detection
-Page zoom lock (helps with accidental zooms while writing)
-PDF import support (can't be imported in an exiting notebook; in app purchase)
-Folder management
-Black paper background
-Misc. performance improvements
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Wish list:
-Optimize the scrolling/zooming animations under Samsung ROMs, they are really jagged and jarring.
-An intuitive way to compare pages of the same/different notebook(s). Maybe a split-screen within the app.
-The ability to import pdf's within an existing notebook.
-Writing near the left and right edges triggers the app's gestures, make it ignore these gestures when using the s-pen.
-The 'Touch with finger to erase (s-pen only mode)' feature requires a tap to activate, this feels inefficient and unnecessary.
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I just tried it. Its got very nice hand writing rendering, better than Papyrus and LectureNotes and on par with S-Notes. Very clean intetface. S-pen button works too (you hear that Papyrus!!!) But I dont like how you can't disable finger writing all together like Papyrus. No text input or means to cut and paste from within your notes AFAIK.
I havent been able to find any kind import functionality either which pretty much ruins it for me.
Its a great start though. I hope they continue to improve it.
Here ya go
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.viettran.INKredible
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sam2c said:
I just tried it. Its got very nice hand writing rendering, better than Papyrus and LectureNotes and on par with S-Notes. Very clean intetface. S-pen button works too (you hear that Papyrus!!!) But I dont like how you can't disable finger writing all together like Papyrus. No text input or means to cut and paste from within your notes AFAIK.
I havent been able to find any kind import functionality either which pretty much ruins it for me.
Its a great start though. I hope they continue to improve it.
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Features wise its very minimalistic (I think they're trying to perfect the writing xp first), however that won't be the case for long.
I didn't realise that the spen button had a function within inkcredible , did you disable the default button action via the GMD s-pen app?
I don't really agree with it being an par with snotes, its more like the other way around.
Snotes has a decent note taking experience, if you compare it with a blackboard writing style then its without opactity variances but with thickness variances (also there are no thickness drops if you set the stroke thickness to 10 or 11). Plus ,in my opninion, INKredible feels and appears more natural.
The moment we get some more features I'll be uninstalling snotes and papyrus
-V
Vasishtha said:
Features wise its very minimalistic (I think they're trying to perfect the writing xp first), however that won't be the case for long.
I didn't realise that the spen button had a function within inkcredible , did you disable the default button action via the GMD s-pen app?
I don't really agree with it being an par with snotes, its more like the other way around.
Snotes has a decent note taking experience, if you compare it with a blackboard writing style then its without opactity variances but with thickness variances (also there are no thickness drops if you set the stroke thickness to 10 or 11). Plus ,in my opninion, INKredible feels and appears more natural.
The moment we get some more features I'll be uninstalling snotes and papyrus
-V
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I just disabled air commands. If I press the stylus button while hovering, it switches back and fours between eraser and pen. Very nice feature. I don't understand why Papyrus devs are so adament about Samsung being at fault for their lack of s-pen button support. Both Lecturenotes and now Inkredible support it now, even without GMD!
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I just disabled air commands. If I press the stylus button while hovering, it switches back and fours between eraser and pen. Very nice feature. I don't understand why Papyrus devs are so adament about Samsung being at fault for their lack of s-pen button support. Both Lecturenotes and now Inkredible support it now, even without GMD!
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Oh I'll check that out, thanks for the tip!
With inkredible its also possible to draw a circle around a portion of text and drag and drop it to somewhere else or do some other action too the selected portion .
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Oh I'll check that out, thanks for the tip!
With inkredible its also possible to draw a circle around a portion of text and drag and drop it to somewhere else or do some other action too the selected portion .
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Great tip! Didn't know i can do that.
big potential. some delay in rendering. no possibility to maintain colors and transparency switching between different tools. could be a very interesting tool
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It's great app - but it kinda doesn't recognice S Pen button for me
Could it be because I'm using Android Lollipop?
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It's great app - but it kinda doesn't recognice S Pen button for me
Could it be because I'm using Android Lollipop?
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Yes, it has something to do with the samsung spen SDK not being present in cm12...though I could be wrong.
Checkout https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.sdk.spen30 .
It may have been updated for android 5.0. But the last time I checked it was for kitkat only.
Spen SDK is not required to recognise spent button presses. This functionality is built into android since android 4.0.
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It's great app - but it kinda doesn't recognice S Pen button for me
Could it be because I'm using Android Lollipop?
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I have note 3 (official lollipop) and note 2014 (kitkat). the spen button switch is not working on inkredible on the note 3.
It is possible because of lollipop.
Dear friends!
I'm really appreciate for your supporting and help our small app's recognized by many more potential users. We've been working hard to make the app more useful and add features to make it works as your main note-taker app, Just hope that day coming soon.
Anyway new version is just waiting the translations and will land on the Play store in a few days.
What’s new in 1.6
- Support "Insert Image" feature
- Apply new S Pen SDK -> solve issue with Lollipop on Samsung device
- Introduce “App Settings”
- Improve selection gesture
- Many bugs fixed & improvements
- Allow rotating, grouping, lock/unlock aspect ratio, ... objects
- Allow zoom out to minimum 90%
Thank you again for your supporting
Looked at it briefly and sorry to say this, but e.g. FIINotes is far superior - at least from the productive point of View.
crypta said:
Looked at it briefly and sorry to say this, but e.g. FIINotes is far superior - at least from the productive point of View.
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There's no denying it from that point of view, I've tried using it today and I can safely say that the writing experience is a dissapointment.
The mode I tried for hadwriting is called paintmode. The second brush was the most promising, however I couldn't set the thickness of it. And I don't like that standard faded thickness.
Also INKredible pens have more smoothening applied to them.
For me its pointless arguing about features until the writing experience of both apps is at an acceptable level; I didn't switch over from paper only to have a bad writing experience on a glass surface.
Compared to paper, digital writing is 'infinitely' more productive(featured). So why pick an app over another app just because it has more features (if the latter has a better writing experience).
infinite+10(features) is still infinite
copncop said:
I'm really appreciate for your supporting and help our small app's recognized by many more potential users. We've been working hard to make the app more useful and add features to make it works as your main note-taker app, Just hope that day coming soon.
Anyway new version is just waiting the translations and will land on the Play store in a few days.
What’s new in 1.6
- Support "Insert Image" feature
- Apply new S Pen SDK -> solve issue with Lollipop on Samsung device
- Introduce “App Settings”
- Improve selection gesture
- Many bugs fixed & improvements
- Allow rotating, grouping, lock/unlock aspect ratio, ... objects
- Allow zoom out to minimum 90%
Thank you again for your supporting
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Thank you for letting us know
Do you know when we'll be getting the import pdf feature?
And thats the point. The writing experience is like on glas ...on every glas surface . I dont care the looks, I need work done and Information saved.
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And thats the point. The writing experience is like on glas ...on every glas surface . I dont care the looks, I need work done and Information saved.
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Well I enjoy wrting on glass more then on paper nowadays, I found myself writing in a more neater way because I always correct sloppy writing due to my OCD.
So now I write more neater because of that. Also I now enjoy the low friction of glass more then the friction of paper...strangely
If I'm making smooth handwriting motions, I don't want to see jankey/jittery graphics on my glass, it just hurts my brain. That hurting trows all the features out of the window.
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Do you know when we'll be getting the import pdf feature?
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I don't know exactly the time, but we're working hard to make the app more better and add new features soon
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And thats the point. The writing experience is like on glas ...on every glas surface . I dont care the looks, I need work done and Information saved.
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I know our weakness is about limit features, and we will continue develop missing feature to make the app more productive
My script makes some dope spen apps as well.
They have a calculator, spen keypad and notepad which all are dope as anything.
I have to say that Google handwriting keypad is by far the best ever made it even out matches Samsung and my script keypads.
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Hi guys,
I'm a webprogrammer/designer and I'm looking for an app that can do the following things:
Making images from scrap
Basic editing image editing
Resizing/Cropping without limits
Works with full RGB colors
I need this kind of program to be able to do some basic designing tasks (creating buttons and banners etc.) with my phone (galaxy S4) or tablet (galaxy tab S 8.4). It kinda frustrates me that I always have to use my laptop while I know that these devices especially the tablets should be able to do the same thing.
Note: I'm NOT looking for any image editors or whatever kind of apps that my sister would use to enchance her selfies. Those apps all need a base image to get started and can not make something from scrap.
Emieltes said:
Hi guys,
I'm a webprogrammer/designer and I'm looking for an app that can do the following things:
Making images from scrap
Basic editing image editing
Resizing/Cropping without limits
Works with full RGB colors
I need this kind of program to be able to do some basic designing tasks (creating buttons and banners etc.) with my phone (galaxy S4) or tablet (galaxy tab S 8.4). It kinda frustrates me that I always have to use my laptop while I know that these devices especially the tablets should be able to do the same thing.
Note: I'm NOT looking for any image editors or whatever kind of apps that my sister would use to enchance her selfies. Those apps all need a base image to get started and can not make something from scrap.
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Photoshop: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.adobe.pstouchphone
SketchBook Pro: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.adsk.sketchbookhd
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Just had a quick thouht is it possible to add all apps to mini apps because i find them more useful than samsungs muliwindow. And on tbis size screen one can truly multitask.
diamantericos said:
Just had a quick thouht is it possible to add all apps to mini apps because i find them more useful than samsungs muliwindow. And on tbis size screen one can truly multitask.
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Try the Launcher Lite apk from this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...apps/small-apps-phone-launcher-torch-t2810994
Edit..I had installed this a while ago and had forgot how it worked. After trying it out I can see it is only an app switcher, not a way to use apps in multi window.
diamantericos said:
Just had a quick thouht is it possible to add all apps to mini apps because i find them more useful than samsungs muliwindow. And on tbis size screen one can truly multitask.
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Unfortunately No, Samsung takes the hacking to the core level to provide their multi window capabilities, hence the 'Powered by Android' logo needs to be pushed into their boot screen by Google. Sony Small Apps on the other hand does not mess around with the core Android system so albeit limited, but it can be safely called Android, just like what Google wants. The downside is that Small App is not an Activity (even though the feature set is similar) so no direct porting between them and plus all the proprietary Views (like what Youtube did with their API) makes it impossible to use their API into Sony Small App Window. The only option is to enrich the Small App ecosystem with a capable small apps that can be taken as a light version of the real app.
This isn't small apps but it may offer some of what you are seeking. Requires root and xposed framework to be installed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-xhalofloatingwindow-v2-38-movable-t2419287
Thanks for responses. and i already hqve xhalo installed but blah to it lol its not the same.
Hey guys,
I haven't done Android dev in a long time, but I'd be very interested in starting again just to figure out how to make all (or at least a few of the major) apps work in dual screen stretched mode like Chrome does. I'll have the phone by tomorrow, but does anyone know where to even begin looking into something like this?
If we can figure out how to make it happen, I'll gladly start modifying apps and share them so that they can be stretched across the dual screen. I'm sure it's just a flag in the App Manifest or something very straight forward like that.
Any devs with any pointers?
Here's the contents of my app Manifest of chrome on my Note 10+.
https://pastebin.com/14nWYsD1
Can anyone please paste the manifest from their G8x?
If you have Solid Explorer, on the left slide out tab, tap on Applications, then in System Apps find Chrome. Inside there's a button on top that says "Browse". Just tap that and the manifest file should be in the root folder (first thing you see).
Could someone please paste their Chrome manifest file from there?
Thanks!
For example, in the Samsung one there's a few tags like this to enable Samsung (and Note) specific features within Chrome:
Code:
<meta-data
name="com.samsung.android.sdk.multiwindow.enable" value="true">
</meta-data>
<meta-data
name="com.samsung.android.sdk.multiwindow.penwindow enable" value="true">
</meta-data>
If we can find something like this for the LG sdk, we can enable split screen mode in any app we want.
I will extract my own Chrome app manifest tomorrow, but I won't be able to modify an existing apps until Monday or so. .
For completeness sake, and for anyone else who wants to follow along, here's the manifest from the LG G8X Chrome app:
https://pastebin.com/cz3zLrXq
Todo: find something LG Specific in the new manifest, copy it over to manifest files of other apps and see if it works. Unfortunately this is going to take me a while since I don't have my PC this weekend. More to come this coming week!
Update: looks like both versions are the same. Which means the info is not in the manifest file. I'm not sure where else it would be...
Will keep looking this weekend...
So it looks like I'm using this thread as a progress marker.
I found an app called "second launcher". Trying to see if this is a lead or a dead end.
For those interested, here's the manifest file:
https://pastebin.com/YgyLUgJn
This might be of particular interest...
Code:
<provider android:name="com.lge.secondlauncher.allapps.AllAppsDBProvider"
android:readPermission="com.lge.secondlauncher.permission.READ_SETTINGS"
android:writePermission="com.lge.secondlauncher.permission.WRITE_SETTINGS"
android:exported="true"
android:authorities="com.lge.secondlauncher.AllAppsDBProvider">
</provider>
Thanks for this, man. I'm shocked only chrome and whale use wide view.
You probably already know this, but:
The second launcher is the home for the left screen. I'm using Nova Launcher right now and it only affects the right screen. The left is still using Second Launcher
Hey, yeah I gathered as much. I'm trying to see if there's a list or something in this app that is basically an allow list.
What I found interesting is that on apps that are allowed to stretch, when they do stretch across both screens, it affects everything not just that app. The keyboard, notification shade, task bar, etc etc. This capability exists, and there's just one place where there's an allow list somewhere. I just have to find it...
Including when taking screenshots.
All I did between these two screen caps, is press the wide view button. I took the screenshots from the hardware buttons so it's a system wide recognition of the new "wide" state...
I just learned a couple things:
1. Wide view is definitely just a resizing of the screen/elements. If you have wide view on and you're asked for a fingerprint, the whole thing breaks. The fingerprint symbol is in between the two screens and you have to tap it to enable the scanner on the main screen. I.e. you need 2 fingers to use it. (Screenshot below).
2. I found LG development site with a guide on how to enable widescreen view in apps. It seems a bit incomplete, but I'm looking into it.
3. Wide screen works in 2 different modes: 1) the entire Android interface stretches across both screens, the break in the middle is not handled and it's a bit wonky. 2) The app knows there's 2 screens and behaves accordingly. Only certain activities are opened on the second screen and there's information exchange (i.e. gallery app/camera app).
This second more seems a bit more involved/complicated. The first mode just tells Android that the two screens are just one big screen, feel free to stretch across. This is the one I will focus on for now. Maybe if I get time, I can make apps behave across both screens.
What this means: you probably won't see an app which shows independent "panes" like Gmail across both screens, or an e-reader with pages across both screen, unless they are specifically coded by the original developers. A lucky break could be if the app is coded as such, and could somehow be convinced that the doi is changing or it is now in landscape mode. Then it could switch to it's different configuration.
Anyway, let's see what I can uncover. Maybe on Monday I will dust of my old laptop, and try to get the LG dual screen demo app working. Once it does, I can try to extract and modify currently installed apps.
SirataXero said:
I just learned a couple things:
1. Wide view is definitely just a resizing of the screen/elements. If you have wide view on and you're asked for a fingerprint, the whole thing breaks. The fingerprint symbol is in between the two screens and you have to tap it to enable the scanner on the main screen. I.e. you need 2 fingers to use it. (Screenshot below).
2. I found LG development site with a guide on how to enable widescreen view in apps. It seems a bit incomplete, but I'm looking into it.
3. Wide screen works in 2 different modes: 1) the entire Android interface stretches across both screens, the break in the middle is not handled and it's a bit wonky. 2) The app knows there's 2 screens and behaves accordingly. Only certain activities are opened on the second screen and there's information exchange (i.e. gallery app/camera app).
This second more seems a bit more involved/complicated. The first mode just tells Android that the two screens are just one big screen, feel free to stretch across. This is the one I will focus on for now. Maybe if I get time, I can make apps behave across both screens.
What this means: you probably won't see an app which shows independent "panes" like Gmail across both screens, or an e-reader with pages across both screen, unless they are specifically coded by the original developers. A lucky break could be if the app is coded as such, and could somehow be convinced that the doi is changing or it is now in landscape mode. Then it could switch to it's different configuration.
Anyway, let's see what I can uncover. Maybe on Monday I will dust of my old laptop, and try to get the LG dual screen demo app working. Once it does, I can try to extract and modify currently installed apps.
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2. Where did you find the guidance? All I know is the old dualscreen api sdk with no wide mode
Have you tried force all apps resizeable & secondary display option in developer menu?
I also think there is some kind of lists for dual screen wide mode supported apps. Just like the lists of some apps to access certain features (auxillary PentaCamera, multi window etc)
Have you tried to launch QSlide on wide view mode? There's a developer kit to launch some apps using qslide
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2. Where did you find the guidance? All I know is the old dualscreen api sdk with no wide mode
Have you tried force all apps resizeable & secondary display option in developer menu?
I also think there is some kind of lists for dual screen wide mode supported apps. Just like the lists of some apps to access certain features (auxillary PentaCamera, multi window etc)
Have you tried to launch QSlide on wide view mode? There's a developer kit to launch some apps using qslide
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Lg has a link to their LG Dual Screen SDK on thier site. Looks like a great start
EDIT: It also looks like the system uses Googles Foldable screen API 29 even though my phone is only running Android 9. I assume this means that the device needs to have the "resizeableActivity=true" in order for the Wide View button to appear. I am looking through Whale and Chrome now to see if that is indeed the case and if an older version of either without this snjipped of code supports wide screen
Looks like it's probably "com.naver.WhaleMediaStandaloneDualFullScreenActivity" where things get interesting... Looking through chrome now
Within the manifest of Chrome:
Code:
<activity theme="@7F14024B" name="org.chromium.chrome.browser.media.PictureInPictureActivity" exported="false"
excludeFromRecents="true"
configChanges="0x00000D80" noHistory="true"
resizeableActivity="true"
supportsPictureInPicture="true">
</activity>
Final edit: AAAANNNDD here's the manifest for whale:
Code:
<activity android:theme="@7F140101" android:name="com.naver.whale.dualscreen.DualScreenTabActivity" android:exported="false" android:taskAffinity="com.naver.whale.dualscreen" android:excludeFromRecents="true" android:configChanges="0x00001FB3" android:windowSoftInputMode="0x00000010" android:hardwareAccelerated="false"
[COLOR="red"]android:resizeableActivity="true"[/COLOR]
android:supportsPictureInPicture="true">
<intent-filter>
<action android:name="com.naver.whale.dualtab">
</action>
<category android:name="android.intent.category.BROWSABLE">
</category>
</intent-filter>
</activity>
So I'm pretty sure this is the puzzle piece we need. If we can root the device, we can force this activity any app an force full screen.
Though, Gmail has this and it does not do any sort of multi screen view for me... Hmm...
Yes! Thank you!
This is what I saw earlier as well, that it says it used the Google foldable APIs but did they back port it? I assumed (like most Android manufacturers I e. Samsung) that they just developed their own thing, so I was surprised to see them mention Android foldables.
Do you think all it needs is the resizable activity true in the manifest? If that's the case, I'm going to try it on some of my apps and see what happens!
Will report back later tonight!
I don't know for sure if it's the only thing, but Google's Dev notes on foldables mention this specifically, good luck!
I may mess with something here or there myself, this dual screen thing has a ton of potential
Yeah so I don't think that's it. I checked GMail and also checked Google Maps. Both of those have this in their main activity but neither of them support it. It may be PART of the puzzle, but it's definitely not the missing piece. Will keep looking further.
So I found something that bothers me a bit....
http://mobile.developer.lge.com/support/forums/sdk/?pageMode=Detail&tID=10018522&listPage=%2Fsupport%2Fforums%2Fsdk%2F
Thank you for your interest in LG Dual Screen.
Unfortunately, 3rd party apps can't use the APIs. Because those APIs can use only LG System App.
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God, I really hope that's not true. So far it seems to be. Since Chrome/Whale browser, etc. are system apps.... Google Maps is not, so it can't... same with GMail…. honestly if this is true, I might return this phone. This is huge for me....
Ignore that, I think this is only valid for those specific APIs that the person in the forum referred to... please ignore my comments, carry on...
I was able to have the device spit out information about the two displays that are available. The second display definitely comes up as an HDMI display. I think I have a lead on how to get full screen apps to show up. More to come.
Here's the info that I found: https://pastebin.com/wrSzNsJT
SirataXero said:
I was able to have the device spit out information about the two displays that are available. The second display definitely comes up as an HDMI display. I think I have a lead on how to get full screen apps to show up. More to come.
Here's the info that I found: https://pastebin.com/wrSzNsJT
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You can install 'Sentio' and 'Taskbar' now. It's like Samsung DeX, to trigger HDMI mirroring
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SirataXero said:
So I found something that bothers me a bit....
http://mobile.developer.lge.com/sup...il&tID=10018522&listPage=/support/forums/sdk/
God, I really hope that's not true. So far it seems to be. Since Chrome/Whale browser, etc. are system apps.... Google Maps is not, so it can't... same with GMail…. honestly if this is true, I might return this phone. This is huge for me....
Ignore that, I think this is only valid for those specific APIs that the person in the forum referred to... please ignore my comments, carry on...
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Some Korean apps (not system apps) can use dual screen perfectly. So it's not true. I believe it's like how LG older Multi-Window feature works, there are some lists of packages names for supported apps. There's also a way to build the code inside an app
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SirataXero said:
Yeah so I don't think that's it. I checked GMail and also checked Google Maps. Both of those have this in their main activity but neither of them support it. It may be PART of the puzzle, but it's definitely not the missing piece. Will keep looking further.
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Can you open a link in chrome or whale that will trigger Gmail or gmaps to open automatically?
Make sure you've enabled force resizeable app apps in developer menu
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Can you open a link in chrome or whale that will trigger Gmail or gmaps to open automatically?
Make sure you've enabled force resizeable app apps in developer menu
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Just tried it, unfortunately it shuts down wide screen moose and opens Gmail on the main screen only
Also, have those apps a shot. You can do some dual screen settings, but nothing like one large screen. Maybe I didn't go through enough settings, but I couldn't get the second screen to play nice
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You can install 'Sentio' and 'Taskbar' now. It's like Samsung DeX, to trigger HDMI mirroring
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Tried both. Neither of them saw the second screen until it was pushed over to the second screen, then I had to re-enable settings and permissions. They basically just behave like two independent devices... it's very odd.
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Some Korean apps (not system apps) can use dual screen perfectly. So it's not true. I believe it's like how LG older Multi-Window feature works, there are some lists of packages names for supported apps. There's also a way to build the code inside an app
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Do you know which apps? Are these available in the app store? (Even if just Korean version of Play Store). Could you tell me which ones (or send me APKs of them) so I can try them out/look through them?
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Can you open a link in chrome or whale that will trigger Gmail or gmaps to open automatically?
Make sure you've enabled force resizeable app apps in developer menu
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Yup, I've enabled the setting, enabled the flag in ADB, nothing happens. Gmail or Maps just instantly close down wide view and open up on one screen.