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Is this downgrading from ME7 to MDK possible? If so please guide me in the right direction.
Its not possible... Once you take the update theres no going back...
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So I am new to the s4 and rooting. I really want to install the Hyperdrive ROM. I have been researching and researching what to do and I think i have found my answer for now and im not happy about it.
From what i gathered, since i installed the update and I am now on ME7, there is no root method bc they locked the phone down. Is this correct?
hondabomdc5 said:
So I am new to the s4 and rooting. I really want to install the Hyperdrive ROM. I have been researching and researching what to do and I think i have found my answer for now and im not happy about it.
From what i gathered, since i installed the update and I am now on ME7, there is no root method bc they locked the phone down. Is this correct?
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Use the search button...this has been posted about a 1000 times...but yes you can root it but no custom recovery.
hondabomdc5 said:
So I am new to the s4 and rooting. I really want to install the Hyperdrive ROM. I have been researching and researching what to do and I think i have found my answer for now and im not happy about it.
From what i gathered, since i installed the update and I am now on ME7, there is no root method bc they locked the phone down. Is this correct?
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You can root, but cant install custom recoveries or roms.
bfmetcalf said:
You can root, but cant install custom recoveries or roms.
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Thanks for being kind and thanks for the info. I did state that I was new and have been looking. I could have started a whole new thread but instead asked the question in here. I do want to install the Hyperdrive rom but since with ME7 you cant install roms...looks like i wont be rooting until somebody gets this figured out. Again, thanks for being cool and answering my question.
y can't we just odin back to mdk?
Stauf99 said:
y can't we just odin back to mdk?
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because of the bootloader will only allow signed packages to be installed on the phone and checks against older firmware and will not allow it. Unless you have the signed key you ain't flashing anything unless we find a workaround.
magneticzero said:
Use the search button...this has been posted about a 1000 times...but yes you can root it but no custom recovery.
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So why is there ROMs for the ME7 build if they can't be flashed?
This [email protected] sucks!
So, I'm stuck on ME7 as well (32GB S4, otherwise I'd just go down to the store and swap it, complaining about something -- seems they don't stock them at any local corporate stores).
I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and we have OMAP-Flash, which is like a low-level PROM flashing tool from the Samsung R&D team, and I could fix even a DEAD, or bricked phone with that. Is there something like that here to get back the original bootloader? I cant believe we're stuck on this crap... How 'bout a 2nd-init like my Droid-x days, or something slick like SafeStrap on the RAZR family?
...Just thinkin' "out loud".
IMGetwired said:
So, I'm stuck on ME7 as well (32GB S4, otherwise I'd just go down to the store and swap it, complaining about something -- seems they don't stock them at any local corporate stores).
I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and we have OMAP-Flash, which is like a low-level PROM flashing tool from the Samsung R&D team, and I could fix even a DEAD, or bricked phone with that. Is there something like that here to get back the original bootloader? I cant believe we're stuck on this crap... How 'bout a 2nd-init like my Droid-x days, or something slick like SafeStrap on the RAZR family?
...Just thinkin' "out loud".
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Short answer is 'no' - you're currently stuck with root as your best option. Hopefully this will change in the not-too-distant future.
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Yeah, this does suck.
Seems like we need someone to pick up the Dragonboard 8074 development kit to help us figure this out...even then, I'm sure Samsung has so many mods in there it'd be nuts to reverse engineer... Ugh, I'm so impatient! :silly:
Slimfast35 said:
So why is there ROMs for the ME7 build if they can't be flashed?
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Because there for people that didn't get robbed by Samsung and update through the evil over the air update lol
Slimfast35 said:
So why is there ROMs for the ME7 build if they can't be flashed?
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You're not quite understanding what a rom is and is not. There is no such thing as a rom for ME7. There are roms that use the ME7 base. They are flashable only by those who have the MDK bootloader. When a build number is listed for a rom, it is the build that the rom is based from.
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So why is there ROMs for the ME7 build if they can't be flashed?
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The ROM's that the devs based on MDK have been updated with the ME7 code just like any good developer does. But the bootloader those users have is still from their MDK (original) install. Once you go ME7 you can never go back, downgrade, crossgrade or get beyond the bootloader, for now anyways. Someone will find a way.
Nm
Been reading various threads and wondering if there is a preferred method for rooting S4. If so, is it based on ability the unroot it later? I am a noob to phone rooting...having only (but successfully) rooted my Nook Tablet a long time ago. I want to make sure I choose the "best practice" method to minimize my risk of borking it. I am on verizon and have
SCH-1545
Build: JDQ39.1545VRUAME7
As for the specifics, is it assumed once I format the SD card to exfat that it runs from and remains in the phone itself or can it be repurposed?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
This is for root. With ME7 you can not use a custom recovery just as a FYI. But safestrap recovery works with ME7. You can find that also in the android Dev section.
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Been reading various threads and wondering if there is a preferred method for rooting S4. If so, is it based on ability the unroot it later? I am a noob to phone rooting...having only (but successfully) rooted my Nook Tablet a long time ago. I want to make sure I choose the "best practice" method to minimize my risk of borking it. I am on verizon and have
SCH-1545
Build: JDQ39.1545VRUAME7
As for the specifics, is it assumed once I format the SD card to exfat that it runs from and remains in the phone itself or can it be repurposed?
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Each firmware version has its own method, and theres only 1 for each. Since your on me7 you have to use the .pwn method and once your rooted you can reformat your card/delete the files that were used.
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I have also noticed a number of people wanting to go back to stock. Is this because root is unstable or has issues? Is there a pretty foolproof method for going back (my phone is only 3 months into my renewed VZ contract so unlike my Nook, I may need support at some point)
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I have also noticed a number of people wanting to go back to stock. Is this because root is unstable or has issues? Is there a pretty foolproof method for going back (my phone is only 3 months into my renewed VZ contract so unlike my Nook, I may need support at some point)
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Its absolutely stable. Most realize its not for them or they return their phones. Odin in my.opinion is the easiest way to remove root.
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So does this NOT apply to my phone since it cites a different model?
\http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713
Travisdroidx2 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
This is for root. With ME7 you can not use a custom recovery just as a FYI. But safestrap recovery works with ME7. You can find that also in the android Dev section.
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So does this NOT apply to my phone since it cites a different model?
\http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713
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That root method is for Verizon S4 on ME7 firmware. If that is not you then I would not try it myself.
Could qualify as the dumb question of the day, but I have Build: JDQ39.1545VRUAME7...is this considered ME7 or are there different flavors?
Travisdroidx2 said:
That root method is for Verizon S4 on ME7 firmware. If that is not you then I would not try it myself.
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Could qualify as the dumb question of the day, but I have Build: JDQ39.1545VRUAME7...is this considered ME7 or are there different flavors?
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Only one ME7 for Verizon you are good.
Given that this was profiled as a "cover story" on the XDA home page is this the latest and greatest and is it different than
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
Just want to clarify before i proceed
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Only one ME7 for Verizon you are good.
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Given that this was profiled as a "cover story" on the XDA home page is this the latest and greatest and is it different than
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
Just want to clarify before i proceed
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That is the same link I sent you in post 2. That is the root method for you on ME7.
OK, then maybe my question is, how is that different from this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/official-android-4-3-i9505xxuemj5-firmware-for-the-galaxy-s-4/
Travisdroidx2 said:
That is the same link I sent you in post 2. That is the root method for you on ME7.
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OK, then maybe my question is, how is that different from this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/official-android-4-3-i9505xxuemj5-firmware-for-the-galaxy-s-4/
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Thats for a different model of s4 and is android 4.3 while me7 is 4.2.2
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wedmiston said:
OK, then maybe my question is, how is that different from this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/official-android-4-3-i9505xxuemj5-firmware-for-the-galaxy-s-4/
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Because that is not for Verizon. Or ME7. Your build version shows ME7. The root method is in the Verizon thread for ME7. It is pretty clear.
Affirmative to both of you and very much appreciated!
as long as I have two guys smarter than me, one more...how is this different
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252248
wedmiston said:
as long as I have two guys smarter than me, one more...how is this different
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252248
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Thats motochopper I believe and its for mdk verizon versions.
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and I know I have to block OTA updates...want to get this in place immediately so what is the best way to do this?
wedmiston said:
and I know I have to block OTA updates...want to get this in place immediately so what is the best way to do this?
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Put the phone in airplane mode. Freeze or delete SDM.apk
Confirm successful root. Also froze SDM.01 file via TB Pro - am I good to go? Any other files need attention?
Travisdroidx2 said:
Put the phone in airplane mode. Freeze or delete SDM.apk
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http://www.theandroidsoul.com/root-...irmware-i9505xxuemj5-using-cf-auto-root-tool/
aspuone vertical
I'm also curious about theandroidsoul.com/universal-root-de-la-vega-script/. I can follow those instructions, but I'm new to Android and I don't want to inadvertently brick my phone since I'd probably have a hard time fixing it.
Here you go below is the link you will to follow to get root in MJ7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408
Unfortunately for me, I swear I followed the instructions in that post to the letter, but after the update was applied I lost root. I'm sure I screwed up somewhere because everyone else says it works. But anyway, I was hoping for a way to get it back.
JavaManRules-GS4 said:
Here you go below is the link you will to follow to get root in MJ7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408
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Not if you're already on MJ7.
riker147 said:
Not if you're already on MJ7.
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If you are on MJ7. Then have seat and make yourself comfortable
JavaManRules-GS4 said:
If you are on MJ7. Then have seat and make yourself comfortable
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You gave misleading info.
works perfect, started at step 5
LRiley said:
works perfect, started at step 5
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Sorry but just to clarify, you were already on MJ7 and you were able to achieve root on a Verizon S4 using the link that vladimirtm posted?
If so that's great news for me! :fingers-crossed:
JavaManRules-GS4 said:
Here you go below is the link you will to follow to get root in MJ7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408
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Only works if you have yet to take the OTA.
Once you take the OTA and have not followed the instruction, you need to grab a seat and wait for a root method.
Is there no way to roll back and root on 4.2?
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Why do you guys take the update, when the last two updates have already broke root? There's not always going to be a root exploit to be found...
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Bfitz26 said:
Is there no way to roll back and root on 4.2?
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This has been asked and answered hundreds of times on this forum.
There is no way to downgrade to an older version.
You WILL soft-brick your phone if you try it.
Even so, there's already people who upgraded to MJ7 and tried to install the MI1 root and watched their phone brick.
And there's no way for them to recover since there's no factory install image for MJ7 yet.
Ythan said:
Sorry but just to clarify, you were already on MJ7 and you were able to achieve root on a Verizon S4 using the link that vladimirtm posted?
If so that's great news for me! :fingers-crossed:
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Nope was on me7
Sorry -incorrect thread.
So we on MJ7 obviously at this point are stuck with barely gaining root and still not able to flash custom ROMs... So I'm making this thread for us to post up any leads or any questions we have on furthering our phones to be able to flash...
Any devs currently working on this would be helpful to chime in to let us know what's up and what you need for us to help...
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Stolly08 said:
So we on MJ7 obviously at this point are stuck with barely gaining root and still not able to flash custom ROMs... So I'm making this thread for us to post up any leads or any questions we have on furthering our phones to be able to flash...
Any devs currently working on this would be helpful to chime in to let us know what's up and what you need for us to help...
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+1. Would be nice to have an unlocked bootloader again. Should've never taken the OTA. :crying:
Aizukaori said:
+1. Would be nice to have an unlocked bootloader again. Should've never taken the OTA. :crying:
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Your telling me! I did a lil research and saw that there were ROMs for the s4 and I just got it the other day and coming from the s3 I was like this will be easy to root and flash again..... Pshhhh come to find out I bought an MJ7 so the rooting process was a pain in the @#$%& lol
So figured I'd start a place for us with this crappy problem to discuss stuffs lol
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I will be watching this thread like a hawk.
I know the feeling....
I just recently bought a new S4 as well with MJ7 on it and I'm going crazy all over looking for a way to root and install a custom rom specially now that this one came out for us on the S4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524644 ufff!!! I will be watching over this!!!!
Admittedly I'm new to this, but from my research, can't you just flash an old kernel/version and then install whatever you want?
Wouldn't this method work? galaxys4root . com/galaxy-s4-root/how-to-root-verizon-galaxy-s4-sch-i545/
Basically put in ODIN mode and install an old image, then you can install the ROM you want, right?
asr1901 said:
Admittedly I'm new to this, but from my research, can't you just flash an old kernel/version and then install whatever you want?
Wouldn't this method work? galaxys4root . com/galaxy-s4-root/how-to-root-verizon-galaxy-s4-sch-i545/
Basically put in ODIN mode and install an old image, then you can install the ROM you want, right?
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Negative, the bootloader was updated and LOCKED TIGHT.. Attempt this and you will have a hard bricked S4... Don't do it!!!
boogeeman69 said:
Negative, the bootloader was updated and LOCKED TIGHT.. Attempt this and you will have a hard bricked S4... Don't do it!!!
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Exactly.
If you are on a newer version of ROM, you cannot go back.
That is why, one should be very careful about taking an update.
Thanks for the info. Glad I didn't try that
When I got my device it was at least two versions back, so there's no way to factory reset my device to what I got when I first received my device?
boogeeman69 said:
Negative, the bootloader was updated and LOCKED TIGHT.. Attempt this and you will have a hard bricked S4... Don't do it!!!
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Eh... It wouldn't brick it, it just wouldn't let you flash it I'm pretty sure.
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Nicgraner said:
Eh... It wouldn't brick it, it just wouldn't let you flash it I'm pretty sure.
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If you try to flash an older image via Odin, you think it would just fail?
I'm still pissed about forgetting to check the Survival Mode option!! :silly:
boogeeman69 said:
If you try to flash an older image via Odin, you think it would just fail?
I'm still pissed about forgetting to check the Survival Mode option!! :silly:
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All I'm gonna say is I'm not gonna be the first to try it.... In theory it might work but idk...
Stolly08 said:
All I'm gonna say is I'm not gonna be the first to try it.... In theory it might work but idk...
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It's relatively well documented that you cannot downgrade from MJ7. If I recall, it's not a hard brick. It's either a soft brick or the flash just fails.
I have faith that we'll have an answer to this soon. Devs never take long to find a workaround.
32BitWhore said:
It's relatively well documented that you cannot downgrade from MJ7. If I recall, it's not a hard brick. It's either a soft brick or the flash just fails.
I have faith that we'll have an answer to this soon. Devs never take long to find a workaround.
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soft brick, you will get the connect to kies emergency screen. Just odin the full odin mj7 tar from the dev section and it will boot again. ( Yes, I was stupid enough to try it )
T.C.P said:
soft brick, you will get the connect to kies emergency screen. Just odin the full odin mj7 tar from the dev section and it will boot again. ( Yes, I was stupid enough to try it )
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Someone had to
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harrytery said:
Someone had to
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Same here. Lol. Used Verizon upgrade/repair assistant to recover. So is a root method being worked on that we know of? Man, stock is just so painful after going root!
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jpnestel said:
Same here. Lol. Used Verizon upgrade/repair assistant to recover. So is a root method being worked on that we know of? Man, stock is just so painful after going root!
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There is a root method... I'm rooted on the mj7 its just they haven't got a recovery to work with it yet so no flashing stuff... But at least with root you can change DPI settings and freeze and delete bloatware so its really not that bad anymore while we wait...
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Hopefully Hashcode can eventually hook us up with SafeStrap at least.. The whole custom recovery thing isn't looking to to good.
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Stolly08 said:
There is a root method... I'm rooted on the mj7 its just they haven't got a recovery to work with it yet so no flashing stuff... But at least with root you can change DPI settings and freeze and delete bloatware so its really not that bad anymore while we wait...
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@Stolly08 what method did you use to Root? I'm still hesitant to try...had my VZ GS4 (running MJ7) for about 3 weeks now.
I'm basically trying to rid my device of bloatware (and praying to eventually flash custom ROMS whenever we all figure that out )
After having HTC phones for 5 years, all rooted, I said enough of the crappy battery life and decided to take the Samsung mainly because of the huge dev support and good battery life. Kinda bummed out we dont have root for MJ7 with unlocked boot loader but Im sure the Dev's are working hard to get it for us
Verizon Software Update Assistant on Mac just popped up and started downloading an update. It doesn't say what version but I'm assuming it's KitKat. My internet is only 1mb down right now so it will be awhile before it's finished.
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Verizon Software Update Assistant on Mac just popped up and started downloading an update. It doesn't say what version but I'm assuming it's KitKat. My internet is only 1mb down right now so it will be awhile before it's finished.
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I just updated through Kies. KitKat ftw! Totally unexpected.
Downloading through kies now. Haven't used this before might start using to do a local backup
Pulled it from the software upgrade assistant as well. When I did a manual check on the phone it said was up to date.
Rom n900vvrucnc4
N900VVRUCNC4
samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-N900V&details=Galaxy_Note_3__Verizon
samsung-updates.com/details/27868/Galaxy_Note_3_Verizon/SM-N900V/VZW/N900VVRUCNC4.html
Hope you all know there's probly no chance to roll back, better hope safestrap works. Its always best to let devs tear through the update before updating.
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Hope you all know there's probly no chance to roll back, better hope safestrap works. Its always best to let devs tear through the update before updating.
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This is excellent advise!!!! This is why I will stick with NC2 for awhile.....
If someone can send me aboot, sbl1, rpm, and tz, I will tell you if we can downgrade. It looks like this is NC4.
somebody snag the nc4 modem
Kingo that!
Michael R. said:
Kingo that!
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Don't think Kingo works with NC4...
ryanbg said:
If someone can send me aboot, sbl1, rpm, and tz, I will tell you if we can downgrade. It looks like this is NC4.
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im downloading tar now wioll get u files shortly
ps- why are all u guys updating :/ the chances of ever getting root again on this rom are slim to none unless the bootloader isnt incremented which ishighly unlikely.. look at the s5 13k bounty for just root and its still not out yet..
let me tear through this and provide a safe way to update and keep root
dont take the update.. i will provide a safe way to update and keep root and a way to be able to revert to the old kernel with the insecure modules for when kexec starts working if it cooperates..
BeansTown106 said:
dont take the update.. i will provide a safe way to update and keep root and a way to be able to revert to the old kernel with the insecure modules for when kexec starts working if it cooperates..
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Thank you Beans ! I was going to wait till you made it safe [emoji3]
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BeansTown106 said:
im downloading tar now wioll get u files shortly
ps- why are all u guys updating :/ the chances of ever getting root again on this rom are slim to none unless the bootloader isnt incremented which ishighly unlikely.. look at the s5 13k bounty for just root and its still not out yet..
let me tear through this and provide a safe way to update and keep root
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You da man Beans!
Saythis said:
Don't think Kingo works with NC4...
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Yeah I wasn't going to try, I run ARLiberator and I didnt pay $30 for nothing. Seriously considering the highly advocated leak though now that I have actually taken the time to read through the PSA and thread comments.
I'm kind of a noob though, I don't understand a lot of the intricacies of programming. Am I correct in assuming that if they are able to build a custom kernel with this unprotected firmware, it will be possible to install non TW roms Like CM11 one day?
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Yeah I wasn't going to try, I run ARLiberator and I didnt pay $30 for nothing. Seriously considering your highly advocated leak though now that I have actually taken the time to read through your PSA and thread comments.
I'm kind of a noob though, I don't understand a lot of the intricacies of programming. Am I correct in assuming that if you are able to build a custom kernel with this unprotected firmware, it will be possible to install non TW roms Like CM11 one day?
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if the kexec module is perfected it will allow us to 2nd boot a aosp kernel and in turn run aosp roms like cm11,aokp,gummy etc. this is a hard task but having the opportunity to use it is a very good thing
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the general forums for the Verizon Note 3? Some might just like being informed about the stock update in a thread without it being bombarded with beans rom posts. We do have the posts about this already I believe.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the general forums for the Verizon Note 3? Some might just like being informed about the stock update in a thread without it being bombarded with beans rom posts. We do have the posts about this already I believe.
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I wish there was a thumbs down button. :thumbdown:
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I wish there was a thumbs down button. :thumbdown:
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Well, I must be wrong then. I guess I'll try to find a general forums so I can be informed about the stock kitkat update.
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