I'm a total Sony noob. I ditched the galaxy note line and my beloved galaxy mega in return for my xperia ultra. Stupidly I let it update to the latest firmware (. 257) now it seems I'm stuck without a root method. I've searched around xda and it seems the only way to root my ultra is to unlock the bootloader wiping my drm keys from the ta partition. So I have the choice between having root or having x reality, Sony apps and a warrantee. Can someone please confirm if this is correct? is or will there be another way?
Android without root may as well be ios and I don't want to have to get out the mega and demote my ultra to 'work phone' status
Thanks, James
This might be correct at the present time. Previously in your situation we were doing this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502185. However i believe Vroot has been pulled, at least for now, due to potentially beimg malware. Haven't heard any news on that for a while now tho.
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lmemma16 said:
This might be correct at the present time. Previously in your situation we were doing this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502185. However i believe Vroot has been pulled, at least for now, due to potentially beimg malware. Haven't heard any news on that for a while now tho.
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Thank you. I thought an unlocked bootloader was required to downgrade but I'm not really concerned about the vroot imei harvesting so i would be willing to give this a try.
jazjaz92 said:
Thank you. I thought an unlocked bootloader was required to downgrade but I'm not really concerned about the vroot imei harvesting so i would be willing to give this a try.
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Yeah, i thought the same thing at first but Sony is cool and you can downgrade with a locked bootloader, lol
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jazjaz92 said:
I'm a total Sony noob. I ditched the galaxy note line and my beloved galaxy mega in return for my xperia ultra. Stupidly I let it update to the latest firmware (. 257) now it seems I'm stuck without a root method. I've searched around xda and it seems the only way to root my ultra is to unlock the bootloader wiping my drm keys from the ta partition. So I have the choice between having root or having x reality, Sony apps and a warrantee. Can someone please confirm if this is correct? is or will there be another way?
Android without root may as well be ios and I don't want to have to get out the mega and demote my ultra to 'work phone' status
Thanks, James
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Hi James,
Let me give you the 411 on Sony devices.
Firstly Sony devices are almost impossible to brick. The only real way to brick your phone is to try and do an update when the battery is at 10% or something, and the battery goes totally flat.
(then it wont be able to hold charge, so will basically be a SD storage device that cannot retain information)
Unlocking bootloader- This is something you will probably want to do, but at a later date. The only real advantage of this is that modified kernels and ROM's can be flashed. At the moment x-reality isn't lost when you unlock your bootloader. But track ID is lost.
- You can undo this
Root - It's highly unlikely that IMEI numbers were harvested. They were ready, but we don't know anything else.
- You can undo root
Backing up your TA partition - (done after Rooting) This is done so if something goes wrong, then you are able to re-flash your TA partition, and restore your device back to stock, and still be covered under your warranty. Inside this partition, is a store of device information. DRM keys, IMEI, MAC address... etc.
- You can undo this
Recovery - Im sure you know this...
Essentially what every you do you can undo. Sony are really dev friendly. Kind of what Samsung used to be like.
lmemma16 said:
Yeah, i thought the same thing at first but Sony is cool and you can downgrade with a locked bootloader, lol
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Thanks for your help I followed the method you linked me to and it worked a treat
hamdogg said:
Hi James,
Let me give you the 411 on Sony devices.
Firstly Sony devices are almost impossible to brick. The only real way to brick your phone is to try and do an update when the battery is at 10% or something, and the battery goes totally flat.
(then it wont be able to hold charge, so will basically be a SD storage device that cannot retain information)
Unlocking bootloader- This is something you will probably want to do, but at a later date. The only real advantage of this is that modified kernels and ROM's can be flashed. At the moment x-reality isn't lost when you unlock your bootloader. But track ID is lost.
- You can undo this
Root - It's highly unlikely that IMEI numbers were harvested. They were ready, but we don't know anything else.
- You can undo root
Backing up your TA partition - (done after Rooting) This is done so if something goes wrong, then you are able to re-flash your TA partition, and restore your device back to stock, and still be covered under your warranty. Inside this partition, is a store of device information. DRM keys, IMEI, MAC address... etc.
- You can undo this
Recovery - Im sure you know this...
Essentially what every you do you can undo. Sony are really dev friendly. Kind of what Samsung used to be like.
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Thank you it sounds like Sony is a little more dev friendly than I thought now I have root I'm looking forward to being able to back up my ta and flash twrp or Cwm. And most of all install v4a ofcourse
jazjaz92 said:
Thanks for your help I followed the method you linked me to and it worked a treat
Thank you it sounds like Sony is a little more dev friendly than I thought now I have root I'm looking forward to being able to back up my ta and flash twrp or Cwm. And most of all install v4a ofcourse
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howdid you have root?
one question...if vroot is really a bad thing...can i just use it just to:
1.get root
2. back up TA
3.get recovery
4.install the this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
this way.my root app will not be vroot?
chacho_2me said:
howdid you have root?
one question...if vroot is really a bad thing...can i just use it just to:
1.get root
2. back up TA
3.get recovery
4.install the this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
this way.my root app will not be vroot?
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Link doesn't work. Yes, you can get root, back up your TA, get recovery aaand I don't know what that link does, so I don't know. But you can install SuperSU and remove the root app from vRoot. Keep in mind that it's not the vRoot root app that's suspicious but the desktop app.
Still, we have no idea at this point so you can either root and live with it or you can wait it out and see what the investigation brings up.
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chacho_2me said:
howdid you have root?
one question...if vroot is really a bad thing...can i just use it just to:
1.get root
2. back up TA
3.get recovery
4.install the this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
this way.my root app will not be vroot?
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I used the vroot method. Nothing is confirmed and for me I felt it was worth the risk
Does anyone have a TWRP or CWM recovery image that can be flashed and booted on. 257? Or do you have to flash the CWM kernel, flash any zips you want, then reflash the .257 kernel in order to boot up and run? Is the recovery always tied to the kernel on this device? A lotta questions, i know
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LordManhattan said:
Link doesn't work. Yes, you can get root, back up your TA, get recovery aaand I don't know what that link does, so I don't know. But you can install SuperSU and remove the root app from vRoot. Keep in mind that it's not the vRoot root app that's suspicious but the desktop app.
Still, we have no idea at this point so you can either root and live with it or you can wait it out and see what the investigation brings up.
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soory why link was broken
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495875
so we cn get root and change SU with chainfire from market?
hmmm.maybe we could get root via vroot while internet is down.and after getting root..uninstall said desktop app? hahaha..possible?
i searched for all threads.which of them is the one that we would wait regarding if vroot is safe or not? the thread telling vroot as malware?
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chacho_2me said:
soory why link was broken
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495875
so we cn get root and change SU with chainfire from market?
hmmm.maybe we could get root via vroot while internet is down.and after getting root..uninstall said desktop app? hahaha..possible?
i searched for all threads.which of them is the one that we would wait regarding if vroot is safe or not? the thread telling vroot as malware?
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Yeah, you can use SuperSU instead. It looks like Kingo has updated their app now and removed the IMEI "collector", so I would rather use Kingo than vRoot.
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LordManhattan said:
Yeah, you can use SuperSU instead. It looks like Kingo has updated their app now and removed the IMEI "collector", so I would rather use Kingo than vRoot.
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On the Kingo website the C6833 is not listed as on of the compatible devices, is this an issue?
batchelor7 said:
On the Kingo website the C6833 is not listed as on of the compatible devices, is this an issue?
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You can't root .257 yet, so you'll have to downgrade to 532 or earlier first.
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You can't root .257 yet, so you'll have to downgrade to 532 or earlier first.
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just got my device friday, came with .532. As a rule of thumb i never upgrade till i see whats going on. looks like i'm good to go, thanks bro.
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You can't root .257 yet, so you'll have to downgrade to 532 or earlier first.
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even without root..we can still flash the old 532 fw just to gain access to root right?
and then what? maybe use OTA Root Keeper to keep root?
batchelor7 said:
just got my device friday, came with .532. As a rule of thumb i never upgrade till i see whats going on. looks like i'm good to go, thanks bro.
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good for you bro...i just bought my phone and my lil sister tinkered it and was updated..waahahahahaha
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Hi people. This is my 3rd android device. Two samsung products, and now the Z ultra.
So I have no idea what people are talking about... I'm used to ODIN... so is flashtool a similar piece of software?
My xperia Z hasn't arrived yet, Im just trying to get my head around sony and the way their devices are run..
So.. questions...
1. Backup your TA partition (I read that this has important info that I don't want to loose... Do i do this with flashtool? Do i also reflash this partition at a later date?)
2. Unlock your bootloader (Why are some people not unlocking bootloader... Do I understand correctly that some features will stop working... like x-reality?? If so, can't they just be reactivated with a custom ROM?)
3. I see there is a recovery for locked bootloaders... (can you still flash kernel's custom ROM's zips using CWM with a locked bootloader?)
Ive spent 3 days looking on the threads here, but I think because of my previous devices I have a preconceived idea of what i should be doing.. I'm confused.
hamdogg said:
Hi people. This is my 3rd android device. Two samsung products, and now the Z ultra.
So I have no idea what people are talking about... I'm used to ODIN... so is flashtool a similar piece of software???
My xperia Z hasn't arrived yet, Im just trying to get my head around sony and the way their devices are run..
So.. questions...
1. Backup your TA partition (I read that this has important info that I don't want to loose... Do i do this with flashtool?? Do i also reflash this partition at a later date?)
2. Unlock your bootloader (Why are some people not unlocking bootloader... Do I understand correctly that some features will stop working... like x-reality?? If so, can't they just be reactivated with a custom ROM?)
3. I see there is a recovery for locked bootloaders... (can you still flash kernel's custom ROM's zips using CWM with a locked bootloader?)
Ive spent 3 days looking on the threads here, but I think because of my previous devices I have a preconceived idea of what i should be doing.. I'm confused.
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Oh thanks god!! I have been waiting for someone to ask... I didn't want to get labeled as a noob! :b
greggCc said:
Oh thanks god!! I have been waiting for someone to ask... I didn't want to get labeled as a noob! :b
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Now everyone knows you're a n00b!
First of all, the minus of unlocking bootloader is losing your DRM keys. To do this, sony has provided us an official way through their website (just google it). Or you can do this via flashtool too. After unlocking, you will lose xreality engine and won't get FW update from sony anymore through official means (pcc or ota, but you can always flash). Some says trackID will be lost, too, but hey, who use it anyway?
The plus is, you entered godmode for flashing anything into your phone.
Unlocked bootloader can be relocked through flashtool, but relocked is not the same as locked, because xreality is still lost, cmiiw. To restore to original locked state, use backupTA (search thread in xda) BEFORE unlocking bootloader. And backupTA needs root, so we need root w/o unlock bootloader first (already plenty in other threads).
And yeah, what a maze this is.
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unk_damnation said:
Now everyone knows you're a n00b!
First of all, the minus of unlocking bootloader is losing your DRM keys. To do this, sony has provided us an official way through their website (just google it). Or you can do this via flashtool too. After unlocking, you will lose xreality engine and won't get FW update from sony anymore through official means (pcc or ota, but you can always flash). Some says trackID will be lost, too, but hey, who use it anyway?
The plus is, you entered godmode for flashing anything into your phone.
Unlocked bootloader can be relocked through flashtool, but relocked is not the same as locked, because xreality is still lost, cmiiw. To restore to original locked state, use backupTA (search thread in xda) BEFORE unlocking bootloader. And backupTA needs root, so we need root w/o unlock bootloader first (already plenty in other threads).
And yeah, what a maze this is.
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Ok thanks, that confirmed what i thought about bootloader..
Can you still flash VIA CWM with a locked bootloader?
otherwise as i understand it...
1) root device
2) backup TA parition
3) unlock bootloader
4) flash ROM/kernel/etc
5) reflash TA partition.
done... custom ROM with x-reality support?
hamdogg said:
Ok thanks, that confirmed what i thought about bootloader..
Can you still flash VIA CWM with a locked bootloader?
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Limited options. Most ROMs required unlocked bootloader.
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unk_damnation said:
Limited options. Most ROMs required unlocked bootloader.
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so there will be some ROM's that don't require an unlocked bootloader??
Why are not all ROM's like this, then x-reality / track ID's would not be a problem...
hamdogg said:
so there will be some ROM's that don't require an unlocked bootloader??
Why are not all ROM's like this, then x-reality / track ID's would not be a problem...
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Well it's harder to make, apparently. Currently even custom recovery for locked bootloader is not finished yet. Check the development section. And flashing things that normally isn't allowed on locked does have limitations, check in other xperia devices threads.
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unk_damnation said:
Well it's harder to make, apparently. Currently even custom recovery for locked bootloader is not finished yet. Check the development section. And flashing things that normally isn't allowed on locked does have limitations, check in other xperia devices threads.
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ok... say I have flashed a ROM... i can then flash the TA partition and then I have that ROM with x-reality working?
hamdogg said:
ok... say I have flashed a ROM... i can then flash the TA partition and then I have that ROM with x-reality working?
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Actually on firmware .510 with unlocked bootloader and I still have Xreality. Making your Ta backup is mainly to be able to restore your device in case of softbrick or restore your phone to stock.
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bASKOU said:
Actually on firmware .510 with unlocked bootloader and I still have Xreality. Making your Ta backup is mainly to be able to restore your device in case of softbrick or restore your phone to stock.
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I read that members running 510 have the reality box to check, but most say it doesn't make a difference, and that its not working in the album
hamdogg said:
I read that members running 510 have the reality box to check, but most say it doesn't make a difference, and that its not working in the album
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Right i don't see difference on album. But I see it on videos.
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I am looking at getting the phone too. From what I understand is when your bootloader is locked, it will only load signed boot partitions. So any modification to the boot partition outside of the official stock kernel will not boot when locked. So installing any custom kernel (OC/UV/etc) with stock rom needs unlocked bootloader, or installing CM (which has it's own kernel anyway). So best is getting custom roms (only modified system) with stock kernel.
Also like already said, unlocked bootloader means no updates from Sony. I would backup TA at all costs anyway.
I doubt stock kernel supports kexec, but I guess you can hack the system init process to load different ramdisks. Which is why I guess they are having trouble with locked bootloaders with recovery ramdisks in the dev forum.
I am waiting for the C6806. Here are my plans:
1. Root using vroot (hope it doesn't infect TA with something ;o)
2. Backup TA Partition
3. Unlock
4. Deal with loss of DRM
5. Install whatever ROM/kernel for daily usage
6. (maybe make official TWRP)
7. Get official updates by restoring TA partition, stock kernel if necessary
or...
1. Root using vroot
2. Backup TA Paritition
3. Stick with stock kernel
4. Help with getting locked 2nd ramdisk working with stock init
5. Is the stock ROM awesome enough? (Not sure since we don't have 4.3 )
Also hoping info comes out about ATT bootloader soon on Note 3.
LTE phone is out by 9/25 I am thinking with US warranty support. (C6806)
bigbiff said:
I am looking at getting the phone too. From what I understand is when your bootloader is locked, it will only load signed boot partitions. So any modification to the boot partition outside of the official stock kernel will not boot when locked. So installing any custom kernel (OC/UV/etc) with stock rom needs unlocked bootloader, or installing CM (which has it's own kernel anyway). So best is getting custom roms (only modified system) with stock kernel.
Also like already said, unlocked bootloader means no updates from Sony. I would backup TA at all costs anyway.
I doubt stock kernel supports kexec, but I guess you can hack the system init process to load different ramdisks. Which is why I guess they are having trouble with locked bootloaders with recovery ramdisks in the dev forum.
I am waiting for the C6806. Here are my plans:
1. Root using vroot (hope it doesn't infect TA with something ;o)
2. Backup TA Partition
3. Unlock
4. Deal with loss of DRM
5. Install whatever ROM/kernel for daily usage
6. (maybe make official TWRP)
7. Get official updates by restoring TA partition, stock kernel if necessary
or...
1. Root using vroot
2. Backup TA Paritition
3. Stick with stock kernel
4. Help with getting locked 2nd ramdisk working with stock init
5. Is the stock ROM awesome enough? (Not sure since we don't have 4.3 )
Also hoping info comes out about ATT bootloader soon on Note 3.
LTE phone is out by 9/25 I am thinking with US warranty support. (C6806)
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Thanks for your thoughts biff...
I was also going to wait for the LTE version, however only two cities have it in my country, and I rarely travel to them, and the added price made be think again...
Thanks to all for their contributions on this thread especially op for having the balls to expose his new noob levels I'm coming from Samsung note and this has helped put things in perspective.
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SpyderTracks said:
Thanks to all for their contributions on this thread especially op for having the balls to expose his new noob levels I'm coming from Samsung note and this has helped put things in perspective.
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Lol nobody should be ashamed to be a noob. We are all noobs to some extend, we learn and improve. I am a big noob on Sony devices as well and a huge noob when it come to development hahahhaa
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I've just ordered mine, should be delivered day after tomorrow. Wait is almost over!
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SpyderTracks said:
I've just ordered mine, should be delivered day after tomorrow. Wait is almost over!
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haha.. no problem!
I know samsung devices very well, and am no noob there.. But sony... yes, I know basically nothing. We all have to start somewhere.. :silly:
hamdogg said:
haha.. no problem!
I know samsung devices very well, and am no noob there.. But sony... yes, I know basically nothing. We all have to start somewhere.. :silly:
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Jeez, this is a nice phone!
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SpyderTracks said:
Jeez, this is a nice phone!
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my wait is nearly over... customs called... gotta pay import duty (ARSE!!!)
but will have it Monday... Boom!!
I'm surprised this device attracts so few developers. Most devices have several custom roms and kernels to choose between.
I love the device. I had some tough weeks to get use to the size but now I can't imagine having another phone.
It's perfect. I can play with it for hours.
I will send it to some of the core devs in my team when I'm done with it so we'll get official SlimRoms on it.
Can u root KitKat? I am on 4.3 and waiting for someone root 4.4. And I love this phone, too.
quachhanthanh said:
Can u root KitKat? I am on 4.3 and waiting for someone root 4.4. And I love this phone, too.
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Odd thread choice for this post.
The answer is to read, read some more, then think about what questions you still have and search for them and read those results.
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Carbon is all u need lol
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After owning this phone for almost a month as my daily driver, I can see why this phone might not be so popular.
Sony does not seem to do as much advertising as Samsung (at least that I can see), and for quite a while this phone was just too expensive. Add to that the fact that this phone for most people is just north of being too big (I came to it after owning the Galaxy note so I am ok with the size), and if you own one of these, you want to use it a lot and even with the stamina mode turned on battery life can be a little short if you turn it on to play with it every 5 min or so.... lol.
On the other hand my S4 build quality feels worse and worse after owning this beautiful thing.
One final thing I can think of is that the stock ROM (at lease 4.3 which I am still using) is not very bloated and really quite nice. I don't feel the need to try to load a AOSP rom as much. Every time I pick-up a touchwiz device I just want to throw up a little.
quachhanthanh said:
Can u root KitKat? I am on 4.3 and waiting for someone root 4.4. And I love this phone, too.
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KitKat has already been rooted for quite some time! I am using 4.4.2 KitKat and am rooted.
Refer to Jackie's root guide. You will have to download the 4.4.2 FTF rom as well as Jackie's custom kernal in order to root.
Have you unlocked your Xperia Z Ultra bootloader? In order to root you must have your bootloader unlocked. It is very quick and easy to unlock.
Here is the link with instructions on how to root KitKat.
Special thanks goes to Jackie for making this possible so fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFSeSe8gQOY
kanej2006 said:
KitKat has already been rooted for quite some time! I am using 4.4.2 KitKat and am rooted.
Refer to Jackie's root guide. You will have to download the 4.4.2 FTF rom as well as Jackie's custom kernal in order to root.
Have you unlocked your Xperia Z Ultra bootloader? In order to root you must have your bootloader unlocked. It is very quick and easy to unlock.
Here is the link with instructions on how to root KitKat.
Special thanks goes to Jackie for making this possible so fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFSeSe8gQOY
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Before telling some one to unlock their bootloader to gain root PLEASE explain to then the consequences of that action:
If you unlock the bootloader before backinf up the TA partition you will lose your DRM keys and warranty. You will also lose the ablity to use some apps that rely on those DRK keys.
If you want to keep these (or have the ability to restore them) you have to downgrade to 4.2 (build ending with .532) and use an exploit to gain root
blueether said:
Before telling some one to unlock their bootloader to gain root PLEASE explain to then the consequences of that action:
If you unlock the bootloader before backinf up the TA partition you will lose your DRM keys and warranty. You will also lose the ablity to use some apps that rely on those DRK keys.
If you want to keep these (or have the ability to restore them) you have to downgrade to 4.2 (build ending with .532) and use an exploit to gain root
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I haven't unlocked bootloader my ZU yet. And I have backup my TA already. But I dont want to UB my ZU because I want to use my TrackID app. So maybe i should wait until someone can root ZU with non-UB one.
Anyway, thanks two of u.
blueether said:
Before telling some one to unlock their bootloader to gain root PLEASE explain to then the consequences of that action:
If you unlock the bootloader before backinf up the TA partition you will lose your DRM keys and warranty. You will also lose the ablity to use some apps that rely on those DRK keys.
If you want to keep these (or have the ability to restore them) you have to downgrade to 4.2 (build ending with .532) and use an exploit to gain root
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Your right. I forgot to mention that unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty. Good thing you mentioned it.
quachhanthanh said:
I haven't unlocked bootloader my ZU yet. And I have backup my TA already. But I dont want to UB my ZU because I want to use my TrackID app. So maybe i should wait until someone can root ZU with non-UB one.
Anyway, thanks two of u.
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You can still get root with a locked bootloader, just read some... hint look for threads by [nut], monx and otheres
blueether said:
You can still get root with a locked bootloader, just read some... hint look for threads by [nut], monx and otheres
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Thanks for ur hint, man. After read some thread, I think I can use this way to root my ZU with KitKat: I am on. 136 rooted and LB, I will download KitKat zip of fnf and install it through dual recovery of [nut]. Am I right? Looking forward to your reply.
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quachhanthanh said:
Thanks for ur hint, man. After read some thread, I think I can use this way to root my ZU with KitKat: I am on. 136 rooted and LB, I will download KitKat zip of fnf and install it through dual recovery of [nut]. Am I right? Looking forward to your reply.
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Look for [NUT]'s 290 thread, it has detailed instructions I think, you will still have to downgrade to .532 to gain root first.
I have a couple questions to ask about rooting this device.
I have a UK model with unlockable boot loader. Everything stock on the device.
1. Is there a root out yet that doesn't require unlocking the boot loader?
2. Can I root without voiding my warranty?
3. Can I easily unroot and leave no indication of it being rooted, to make a warranty claim if ever needed?
4. Do mobile banking apps still not work on rooted devices?
5. Does rooting slow down your device?
Thanks in advance
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1. Yes there is a full root thread on the Original Development forums for the Z2
2. No, your warrenty will void with root however removing and flashing a stock FTF it will restore your warrenty as your Z2 no longer contains modified content
3. You can unroot via the app and there will be noticable changes unless you used root to modify but then you can flash a stock firmware
4. They should. Very few apps actualy check for root
5. Rooting does not slow your device
Info can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2775411
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Thank you
Also is there a tweaksbox/Xposed style app for the Z2?
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Almost all Xperia 4.4 xposed/modkits/etc work for any Xperia with 4.4 KK aka Z2 with 4.4
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So I can root without unlocking boot loader, and then just unroot to restore warrenty if/when needed?
I have looked through some threads and a little confused about if the phone has to be downgraded to root? The build number ends in .402, so can I root easily?
Thanks again, I do appreciate you taking the time to help me
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Yes you can root without unlocked boooader as of posting this
You can restore warrenty by removing root
I think you can stay on 402 to root, not sure, look at doomlords thread in original development
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I never ended up rooting my device, but decided now is the time.
I am on 17.1.1.A.0.402
Bootloader is unlockable, but currently locked (and will be staying that way.).
Does anyone know if there is a way I can root it without unlocking bootloader and without downgrading firmware?
Thanks in advance
1iam5mith said:
I never ended up rooting my device, but decided now is the time.
I am on 17.1.1.A.0.402
Bootloader is unlockable, but currently locked (and will be staying that way.).
Does anyone know if there is a way I can root it without unlocking bootloader and without downgrading firmware?
Thanks in advance
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there are root methods in both development sections and general sections
you can also try towelroot
1iam5mith said:
I never ended up rooting my device, but decided now is the time.
I am on 17.1.1.A.0.402
Bootloader is unlockable, but currently locked (and will be staying that way.).
Does anyone know if there is a way I can root it without unlocking bootloader and without downgrading firmware?
Thanks in advance
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yes you can root easily now with locked bl (thanks to all the devs that contributed btw), you can upgrade to .314 and root that easily too, you can then restore ftf to stock and keep warranty. or you can also root, then backup TA, then unlock BL and do whatever you like. you can restore that TA backup later to get locked bl again and restore ftf to stock and keep warranty.
Thanks guys.
Is there any super simple step by step guides for doing this?
1iam5mith said:
Thanks guys.
Is there any super simple step by step guides for doing this?
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these root tools that can be found in XDA have guides within the threads
1iam5mith said:
Thanks guys.
Is there any super simple step by step guides for doing this?
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Before you root, you should read the threads in the dev section as potentially you are unleashing a beast which can brick your device.
Hey guys im back after smashing my beloved xperia z (which i had mastered the ins and outs of) and reluctantly replacing it with a HTC ONE m7 which was the most terrible phone i have ever used in my life.... i have plonked a good bit of cash on a z2 and I AM LOVING IT
I had updated to the latest version of KK but i am hearing mixed reports that a root is not available for this version.
If anyone could point me in the right direction that would be fabulous.
Thank you in advance
Chris
xeningti said:
If anyone could point me in the right direction that would be fabulous.
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Have a look here
If any, PM me.
Bjørn
bjorn96 said:
Have a look here
If any, PM me.
Bjørn
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1.1 You need obviously an already rooted phone with [NUT]'s Dual Recovery with a previous firmware version (4.4.2)
Just seen tht and gave up lol
xeningti said:
1.1 You need obviously an already rooted phone with [NUT]'s Dual Recovery with a previous firmware version (4.4.2)
Just seen tht and gave up lol
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Downgrade.
ahhh crafty.... so could i flash a previous FTF with flashtool.... create a pre rooted version of 4.4.4 the flash that?
is that kind of what i need to do?
xeningti said:
ahhh crafty.... so could i flash a previous FTF with flashtool.... create a pre rooted version of 4.4.4 the flash that?
is that kind of what i need to do?
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Yeap, that it.
Note 1: Download the 4.4.4 ftf from Xperifirm
Note 2: 4.4.3 you have to download from the link.
Note 3: BACKUP TA when root!!!
good luck! im trying to but its seems im screwed and i have .167 firmware
the towlroot meathod just hangs,,,
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Yeap, that it.
Note 3: BACKUP TA when root!!!
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what so you mean?
whats ta
djnos said:
good luck! im trying to but its seems im screwed and i have .167 firmware
the towlroot meathod just hangs,,,
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finally got it
on 4.4.4 rooted and with recovery
will dont know what ta is thou
how did you do it i am still pondering this hole new method.... wheres doomlord when you need him!!!
xeningti said:
how did you do it i am still pondering this hole new method.... wheres doomlord when you need him!!!
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Hello
I see you are totally green on this.
Well, im kinda green too, but I have had a lot of help from @xda and now I can manage to do some stuff with my telephone.
The first thing you have to do is BACKUP!!! This is always important.
Well, then lets get to it.
The XPERIA Z2 has a locked bootloader. This means that it cannot flash any roms, custom or other without being unlocked. When you unlock the bootloader, you delete all files on the phone, (don’t ask me how, it just does) and also deletes a partition called TA. The TA-partition contains DRM-keys, to explain that, @Envious_Data might help.
Anyway, when you have root, you can backup the TA, BEFORE you flash any custom ROM, or the ROM with ROOT. That way you will always be able to go back to scratch. Without ROOT on 4.4.4 you need to downgrade to 4.4.3, ROOT and backup the TA-partition before you even start thinking about unlocking bootloader.
(search the XDA, Google (use XDA in the end for XDA results) XDA-TV and you will find tons and tons of stuff. Once you understand some, it will come fast to you.)
I have gathered some threads here for you to read, and I hope this will work for you too.
Start off by reading this
When done, notify me.
All the best
Bjørn
bjorn96 said:
Hello
I see you are totally green on this.
Well, im kinda green too, but I have had a lot of help from @xda and now I can manage to do some stuff with my telephone.
The first thing you have to do is BACKUP!!! This is always important.
Well, then lets get to it.
The XPERIA Z2 has a locked bootloader. This means that it cannot flash any roms, custom or other without being unlocked. When you unlock the bootloader, you delete all files on the phone, (don’t ask me how, it just does) and also deletes a partition called TA. The TA-partition contains DRM-keys, to explain that, @Envious_Data might help.
Anyway, when you have root, you can backup the TA, BEFORE you flash any custom ROM, or the ROM with ROOT. That way you will always be able to go back to scratch. Without ROOT on 4.4.4 you need to downgrade to 4.4.3, ROOT and backup the TA-partition before you even start thinking about unlocking bootloader.
(search the XDA, Google (use XDA in the end for XDA results) XDA-TV and you will find tons and tons of stuff. Once you understand some, it will come fast to you.)
I have gathered some threads here for you to read, and I hope this will work for you too.
Start off by reading this
When done, notify me.
All the best
Bjørn
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ok i have dowgraded to 4.4.2 i tried towelroot which worked but SUPER SU could not load binaries. So i flashed stock 4.4.2 again and i am now trying to root using doomlords community rootkit and its not working....
xeningti said:
ok i have dowgraded to 4.4.2 i tried towelroot which worked but SUPER SU could not load binaries. So i flashed stock 4.4.2 again and i am now trying to root using doomlords community rootkit and its not working....
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Have had some problems with SuperSU too, but try backup ta.
If not work, try restore phone with PCC.
Then downgrade and try again.
bjorn96 said:
Have had some problems with SuperSU too, but try backup ta.
If not work, try restore phone with PCC.
Then downgrade and try again.
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i have flashed a stock rom many times and still getting the errors, i have no idea what a TA is... also im on locked bootloader if that helps at all.
sorry for being a noob
xeningti said:
i have flashed a stock rom many times and still getting the errors, i have no idea what a TA is... also im on locked bootloader if that helps at all.
sorry for being a noob
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see attachment
xeningti said:
i have flashed a stock rom many times and still getting the errors, i have no idea what a TA is... also im on locked bootloader if that helps at all.
sorry for being a noob
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To root the Z2 and get dual recovery on 4.4.2 follow these steps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/help/how-to-root-firmware-314-t2821619
Then you need to follow the instructions in this thread, it's much easier than what it seems
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/4-4-4-creating-rooted-update-package-t2933155
Also, no need to backup TA unless you wanna unlock your bootloader
Jiyeon90 said:
To root the Z2 and get dual recovery on 4.4.2 follow these steps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/help/how-to-root-firmware-314-t2821619
Then you need to follow the instructions in this thread, it's much easier than what it seems
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/4-4-4-creating-rooted-update-package-t2933155
Also, no need to backup TA unless you wanna unlock your bootloader
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Backup of TA was just a mention. Also its smart to have it, cuz you might forget it.
Anyway, @xeningti the towelroot should work on 4.4.3, did you try to download the towelroot app from towelroot.com???
Jiyeon90 said:
To root the Z2 and get dual recovery on 4.4.2 follow these steps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/help/how-to-root-firmware-314-t2821619
Then you need to follow the instructions in this thread, it's much easier than what it seems
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/4-4-4-creating-rooted-update-package-t2933155
Also, no need to backup TA unless you wanna unlock your bootloader
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i am 3.2.3
bjorn96 said:
Backup of TA was just a mention. Also its smart to have it, cuz you might forget it.
Anyway, @xeningti the towelroot should work on 4.4.3, did you try to download the towelroot app from towelroot.com???
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yeah i used the towerl root and it said it had worked although when i installed supersu it said it could not update or find binary
xeningti said:
yeah i used the towerl root and it said it had worked although when i installed supersu it said it could not update or find binary
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Did your phone come with 4.4.4??
Try root with towel on 4.4.3
Send some shots of it.
Hey Guys,
So I just bought a Z2 with Android 4.4.4, and after a lot of reading I understood that there is no "one click" rooting option for it and that I have to downgrade first and then flash a rooted ROM.
The thing is I checked all the the current threads and they are somewhat very hard to follow through and a little bit made to advanced users
Topics like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/4-4-4-creating-rooted-update-package-t2933155
So sometimes midway they skip a step or dont explain how did they reach there (specially after step 9 in the above tutorial)
I know I am asking too much, but will someone walk me through how to root my locked boot loader phone ?
FW: 23.0.1.a0.167
Thank you very much
There are 2 ways to root
Safe way which is this way which includes downgrading and having to reset your device twice
Or the easy way which is unlocking your bootloader (losing your TA and DRM Dependant features) flashing a custom kernel + recovery
You cant root at all without losing data
Hi mate
I suggest you to try this method first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
It doesn't work for me and if it doesn't work for you too we can talk to the author to support our devices
with my best regards
a.hamameh
Hey Mate , Thank you for your reply
I have tried it but it didnt work, it says my "phone isnt vunerable", I have sent to author waiting his reply.
If you have any other pointers for me that would be great !
a.hamameh96 said:
Hi mate
I suggest you to try this method first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
It doesn't work for me and if it doesn't work for you too we can talk to the author to support our devices
with my best regards
a.hamameh
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I have also the same error now we are sure that our devices are not supported yet I think he needs some informations about the kernel.
I sent him message and I got a reply but he thought that I have 4.4.2.
He told me that he is busy.
I sent another message and I'm waiting his reply.
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Then How to do it even with losing data, but not losing the original FTF ?
Again sorry for being a noob
Envious_Data said:
There are 2 ways to root
Safe way which is this way which includes downgrading and having to reset your device twice
Or the easy way which is unlocking your bootloader (losing your TA and DRM Dependant features) flashing a custom kernel + recovery
You cant root at all without losing data
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hoooka said:
Hey Guys,
So I just bought a Z2 with Android 4.4.4, and after a lot of reading I understood that there is no "one click" rooting option for it and that I have to downgrade first and then flash a rooted ROM.
The thing is I checked all the the current threads and they are somewhat very hard to follow through and a little bit made to advanced users
Topics like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/4-4-4-creating-rooted-update-package-t2933155
So sometimes midway they skip a step or dont explain how did they reach there (specially after step 9 in the above tutorial)
I know I am asking too much, but will someone walk me through how to root my locked boot loader phone ?
FW: 23.0.1.a0.167
Thank you very much
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Its not too complicated, but im sure its 100% safe. The step only required downgrade and then install the pre-rooted rom. If you know how to flash with flashtool, then this is not a big problem. Before you begin, please make sure you understand each step that you gonna do. This is how actually i do.
1. Download all files required(ftf, rooting tools, prf creator, recovery, etc)
2. Make the pre-rooted rom first.(i just skip that step 11)
3. Flash the stock .314
4. Root & recovery it.
5. Insert that pre-rooted ftf that i made early, in my case i also use a stock rom .167
6. Reboot and finish.
I've rooted Xperia Z before and I'm sure it was much easier. I'd like to root my Z2 but it's much more complicated. I mean I know how to use flash tools, but I'm a bit lost when it comes to drm keys. Is it possible to root and unroot if needed so Sony won't know if anything goes wrong ? Does your method involve drm backup?
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ka1eid said:
I've rooted Xperia Z before and I'm sure it was much easier. I'd like to root my Z2 but it's much more complicated. I mean I know how to use flash tools, but I'm a bit lost when it comes to drm keys. Is it possible to root and unroot if needed so Sony won't know if anything goes wrong ? Does your method involve drm backup?
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This method doesnt require to unlock bootloader, its safe. Backup drm key can only be done after u root your device.
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yuskhayru said:
This method doesnt require to unlock bootloader, its safe. Backup drm key can only be done after u root your device.
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So I can root without losing drm? Just making sure.
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ka1eid said:
So I can root without losing drm? Just making sure.
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Sure.
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ka1eid said:
So I can root without losing drm? Just making sure.
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Yes root doesn't harm your DRM keys only unlocking the bootloader will do that and here are so manybthreads howto get root on locked bootloader, just search before posting and read the rules !!
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So I can root without losing drm? Just making sure.
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Yes rooting doesn't Unlock your bootloader so no loss of DRM keys. Its theoretically impossible to hard brick a locked boot loader Z2.