Qualcomm Technologies Announces Next Generation Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 “Ultra HD” Processor
Qualcomm has announced today a new generation Snapdragon 805 chipset with better 2.5GHz quad-core processor and 4K graphics.
The Snapdragon 805 delivers 4K display support in addition to the 4K video recording support, which was already available on the Snapdragon 800. More interestingly, the new chipset features a brand new Adreno 420 GPU, which has 40% more processing power than the previous generation Adreno 330 chips.
The latest Snapdragon 805 chipset also comes with an improved quad-core processor. The cores have a new Krait 450 architecture and have a maximum clock speed of 2.5GHz and memory bandwidth of up to 25.6GB/s. The Krait 450 is still a 32-bit processor, so we guess there is one more generation hardware to pass before Qualcomm outs 64-bit processor cores.
Qualcomm has also embedded a completely new modem called Gobi 9x35. It's manufactured on a 20nm process and is smaller, more power efficient, and, of course, faster. It supports LTE Category 4, dual-band WiFi ac and even allows 4K video streaming via Wi-Fi.
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Finally the new Snapdragon 805 chipset incorporates a new dedicated camera processor, which will significantly increase camera speed and might even help boost image quality. It also uses the gyro sensor to stabilize the captured photos.
Qualcomm is ready to mass produce the Snapdragon 805 chips and we should see them in commercial devices in the first half of next year (the first ones will probably debut at CES in January and MWC in February).
The Snapdragon 805 seems like a decent upgrade over the Snapdragon 800, but we are yet to see if it will be able to dominate the competition the way its predecessor did.
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And I am obsolete...
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Lol yup, thanks for kicking me in the nuts right after I buy your latest and greatest SAMSUNG!
At least our devices will be more powerful then most devices for a long time(1 year maybe?)
Don't worry, since we are on Verizon, we won't be able to buy a Snapdragon 805 device until probably next October!
The Note 3 should be a fast device for more than 1 year to come. The Snapdragon 800 will still be quite good and we have 3GB RAM unlike most devices. When I moved from Note 2 I had never felt that it was ever lacking in speed despite intense multitasking, I have no doubt that even the Note 2 will be quite usable and still quick next year.
Maybe it will appear in the Note 4 and S5?
I'm holding out for something Snapdragon 1000 powered :smug:
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Maybe it will appear in the Note 4 and S5?
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The s5 has Samsungs own x86 architecture chip, supposedly
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Then the US Note 3 gets this?
Hoping this will go straight to tablets so I can keep this smug on my face a little while longer.
I finally got my phone how i like it and now its last months model. AGH
I need those 4k graphics on my phone though... Hopefully the note 4 has an 850 in it at least and 4k res on a 6 inch display. I'd buy it
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Horse****! I can't use this piece of garbage, now! /throws Note 3 in the trash compactor
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Horse****! I can't use this piece of garbage, now! /throws Note 3 in the trash compactor
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Breaking news, man loses hand after trying to retrieve phone from trash compactor.
Lmao
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The s5 has Samsungs own x86 architecture chip, supposedly
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Actually s5 will have x64 not x86.
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Actually s5 will have x64 not x86.
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Thanks for correcting me. I always get those mixed up.
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Dang..now I know how last years model feels
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Would you all like it better if flagship devices/SoC's were debuted every 20 months - 2 years instead, allowing users to reign with the best device throughout the duration of their contract, and the chance to grab the next best thing immediately?
I know how it goes (something faster will always come out), but I hate the fact that in just a few short months the S5 (and other devices) are going to be faster and more advanced than my Note 3.
Idk... The s4 seemed slower in every way to me than the note 2
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Actually s5 will have x64 not x86.
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Ouch both wrong now
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well I decided to run a benchmark test on this phone and here's the result:
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both the Galaxy S II & Galaxy Nexus ranked higher? hmm.. oh well.
what good are benchmarks anyway right? õ_Ô
benchmarks mean absolutely nothing; i can't stand reviewers who use them to judge and rate the phones.
Sense lowers the score alot too for some reason. My desire gets a 1600-1700 on CM7 but gets a 1400 on Sense at the same clocks speed and voltage.
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Sense lowers the score alot too for some reason. My desire gets a 1600-1700 on CM7 but gets a 1400 on Sense at the same clocks speed and voltage.
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This....
HTC did something with Sense that interferes and harms benches, I am not sure on the specifics, but I do in fact know it affects all Sense based phones. Maybe the ROM has some debugging in it or maybe Sense is just not optimized, which ever it may be it's not a good feature to have. If this phone(or any Sense based) had TouchWiz or Vanilla on it, it would be much faster in benches or just generally.
Yea. Its just sense... Its a heavy UI. On a more vanilla rom I can almost guarantee that it will bench higher than Samsungs. HTCs always do
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Not to mention it looks like you don't have a very good SD card? Class 4?
Class 4 comes with the phone right? He probably hasn't swapped it. Ill stick my class10 in there next week and Ill see how high it gets.
Also, the score will be improved when we can use setcpu to lock it in performance governor mode.
Yea, Class 4 is what comes with pretty much every phone Verizon sells. I haven't seen anything better, but I may be wrong so don't quote me, lol.
The fact that Sense slows down benchmarks doesn't imply the benchmarks are invalid. If they run slowly under Sense, then apps that users typically install may also -- and that's definitely something worthwhile to discover.
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Not to mention it looks like you don't have a very good SD card? Class 4?
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If you look closely the Rezound has faster CPU and RAM. The SD card is killing the scores.
All this is true... That's a dam good benchmark IMO with the phone stock and bloated lol.
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It's interesting to see that the benchmark proves some hardware points. the GPU on the Rezound is superior (as it is on paper), but the cpu suffers since it is still based mostly on older cortex architecture. once the rezound sees an ICS upgrade, it will prove a formiddable opponent, especially since ICS actually takes advantage of said GPU and dual core CPU's.
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they are so close it doesnt even matter....
im sure sense has alot to do with the benches.....im surprice the g nex doesnt score higher.
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It's interesting to see that the benchmark proves some hardware points. the GPU on the Rezound is superior (as it is on paper), but the cpu suffers since it is still based mostly on older cortex architecture. once the rezound sees an ICS upgrade, it will prove a formiddable opponent, especially since ICS actually takes advantage of said GPU and dual core CPU's.
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Tbh even if it is on an older artchitecture it's a possibility this could be a refresh. Even if it is "older" I find that qualcomm cpus always keep up w/ the newer high end processors. Any performance issues has nothing to do with hardware, and this has been an ongoing issue with Android. No true hardware acceleration (ICS will change that hopefully) and heavy manufacterer skins. I'm sure AOSP or a stripped down version of sense and any lag this phone will be gone. ALthough I really haven't experienced any true lag, just UI slowdowns that have been mostly rectified w/ a 3rd party launcher.
the rezound uses a processor from qualcomm's S3 family, which are all based on cortex a8. the nexus/razr cpu's are based on cortex a9 architecture. the rezound will always be behind in that regard. htc knows of this limitation, which is why they've maxed out the rezound's cpu to 1.5GHz, to keep up with the more efficient competition. although, i have heard that the rezound's s3 is a hybrid of a8/a9, so who knows for sure.
where the rezound has potential is in its adreno 220 gpu, which is superior to the nexus/razr's power vr sgx 540. the sgx 540 has been around for far too long and should have been refreshed by now. it's even in my galaxy s phone.
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the rezound uses a processor from qualcomm's S3 family, which are all based on cortex a8. the nexus/razr cpu's are based on cortex a9 architecture. the rezound will always be behind in that regard. htc knows of this limitation, which is why they've maxed out the rezound's cpu to 1.5GHz, to keep up with the more efficient competition. although, i have heard that the rezound's s3 is a hybrid of a8/a9, so who knows for sure.
where the rezound has potential is in its adreno 220 gpu, which is superior to the nexus/razr's power vr sgx 540. the sgx 540 has been around for far too long and should have been refreshed by now. it's even in my galaxy s phone.
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Yeah it is from the s3 family eventhough they should of released the kraits by now . The s3 MSM8660 ranges form 1.2 - 1.5 , I'm assuming the one's in the Rezound are the cherry picked ones, from the center of the wafers. They were going to release the QSD8672 @ 1.5 but that was scrapped for whatever reason. The MSM8960 will be the 1.5 - 1.7 dual core krait w/ the adreno 225 w/ dual channel @ 500mhz opposed to single channel @ 333mz. The MSM8660 keeps up with the 4430 and 4460 imo, I just wonder how much better the s4's the kraits will be compared to the s3. The . Oh well no issues with performance w/ this combo imo.
xyphan said:
the rezound uses a processor from qualcomm's S3 family, which are all based on cortex a8. the nexus/razr cpu's are based on cortex a9 architecture. the rezound will always be behind in that regard. htc knows of this limitation, which is why they've maxed out the rezound's cpu to 1.5GHz, to keep up with the more efficient competition. although, i have heard that the rezound's s3 is a hybrid of a8/a9, so who knows for sure.
where the rezound has potential is in its adreno 220 gpu, which is superior to the nexus/razr's power vr sgx 540. the sgx 540 has been around for far too long and should have been refreshed by now. it's even in my galaxy s phone.
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Yea the s3 is a HIGHLY modified version of the A8. So much much....it can barely be said its using a8.
the cpu isnt maxed out at 1.5....its just how it came from qualcomm its just how the 8660 is made. Im hoping to see stable 2.0 ghz kernels for it....
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Yea the s3 is a HIGHLY modified version of the A8. So much much....it can barely be said its using a8.
the cpu isnt maxed out at 1.5....its just how it came from qualcomm its just how the 8660 is made. Im hoping to see stable 2.0 ghz kernels for it....
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okay, fine. what i meant by maxed out was that qualcomm's upper limit on paper for the 8660 is 1.5GHz. I'm sure people will change that though.
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Adreno 220: 88M triangles/sec, 532M 3D pixels/sec, 1080p video recording and playback up to 30 frames/second. Pretty beast GPU. He is correct that the 86xx series is indeed based off a modified A8 architecture.
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Yeah it is from the s3 family eventhough they should of released the kraits by now . The s3 MSM8660 ranges form 1.2 - 1.5 , I'm assuming the one's in the Rezound are the cherry picked ones, from the center of the wafers. They were going to release the QSD8672 @ 1.5 but that was scrapped for whatever reason. The MSM8960 will be the 1.5 - 1.7 dual core krait w/ the adreno 225 w/ dual channel @ 500mhz opposed to single channel @ 333mz. The MSM8660 keeps up with the 4430 and 4460 imo, I just wonder how much better the s4's the kraits will be compared to the s3. The . Oh well no issues with performance w/ this combo imo.
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Can't wait for the krait.
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Despite both having the same GPU, I have heard that the SGS3 version will be better some how? Higher clock speed?
Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Despite both having the same GPU, I have heard that the SGS3 version will be better some how? Higher clock speed?
Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Also have more cores i believe.
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Also have more cores i believe.
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According to this they both have 4 cores.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
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According to this they both have 4 cores.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
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Hmm, could've sworn there was a discussion about it having more cores when it was announced, my bad then.
As far as I know the GPU will have higher clock frequency. Also both S2 and S3 have the Quad-Core Mali-400MP.
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As far as I know the GPU will have higher clock frequency. Also both S2 and S3 have the Quad-Core Mali-400MP.
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This will largely be the decider on whether I get it or not.
(As I am designing a GPU intensive 3D game).
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This will largely be the decider on whether I get it or not.
(As I am designing a GPU intensive 3D game).
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Well, S2 had the fastest Mobile GPU and now S3 has the fastest one. So if you really want the best GPU go for the S3 but S2 will also work really well.
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Well, S2 had the fastest Mobile GPU and now S3 has the fastest one. So if you really want the best GPU go for the S3 but S2 will also work really well.
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I need some proof though, no one seems to really know for sure, just want to be sure before splashing £500
This seems to explain it:
the main thing is the smaller process node design, the increased memory bandwidth, cleverer memory bandwidth architecture
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Samsung announced that they have switched to high-k materials and metal gates (HKMG) and further claimed it can provide superior performance with less power than conventional poly-Si/SiON used at 45nm. Samsung demonstrated that Exynos 4212 (32nm version) SoC can produce 35% to 50% more horsepower than the older Exynos 4210 (45nm version). So clearly Exynos 4412 quad core wins the “CPU Horsepower” battle.
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While they haven’t officially announced this yet, I believe the GPU is the same one they promised for the dual core 1.5 Ghz Exynos 4212 chip. They said that GPU had a 50% increase in performance over the current one in the Galaxy S2. This improvement is most likely possible because of the jump from 45nm for the dual core Exynos to the 32nm Exynos 4412 (they used the more efficient transistors to increase performance at the same or lower power consumption).
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I had the Note which was dualcore Exynos 1.4ghz and same GPU, but 1280x800, it could handle just about all the games thrown at it, ie. RipTide, Asphalt 6. I only felt Mordern Combat 3 could have higher fps, although very smooth and playable.
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I had the Note which was dualcore Exynos 1.4ghz and same GPU, but 1280x800, it could handle just about all the games thrown at it, ie. RipTide, Asphalt 6. I only felt Mordern Combat 3 could have higher fps, although very smooth and playable.
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With the game I'm working on, just tried it on my phone today (haven't tested in a few months) and I have noticed some lagging with the new faster animations.
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With the game I'm working on, just tried it on my phone today (haven't tested in a few months) and I have noticed some lagging with the new faster animations.
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The thing is that if you are hardly able to run the game on a Mali-400MP then the game would lag like hell even on T2/T3.
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The thing is that if you are hardly able to run the game on a Mali-400MP then the game would lag like hell even on T2/T3.
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T2/T3?
Also I wouldn't say it hardly runs, minimum of 20FPS, lots of optimizations to be done though such as LOD (basically chops poly count down on far away models).
For lower devices...
Dynamic lighting turned off.
Light maps could be baked into the texture
Normal maps removed.
Specular maps removed.
At the moment it's probably the same or exceeds the quality of Shadowgun THD.
Check available benchmarks .)
You should have looked around more for available benchmarks.
This show clarly that the s3 is much faster than the s2:
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You should have looked around more for available benchmarks.
This show clarly that the s3 is much faster than the s2:
source and source
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I wanted to know the technical reason, I've already looked at the benchmarks.
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I wanted to know the technical reason, I've already looked at the benchmarks.
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Higher clock, optimised drivers, maybe hardware optimisation
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Higher clock, optimised drivers, maybe hardware optimisation
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People at the HTC sensation forum extracted Adreno 225 Drivers and used it on their Adreno 220 powered phones and they gained a huge performance boost!
as we know Adreno 225 is Adreno 220 with double the frequency (thanks to that new manufacturing process of the CPU also the GPU still using the same process...)
so can't someone extract the new drivers so everyone with Mali 400 GPU can use it?
Because S3's Quad-core GPU frequency is 400MHz. S2 only 275MHz.I am a Chinese grade 9 student andlooking forward to GS III.
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sorry for my bad English. the frequency isthereason that some tablets with realtek rk2918 board(mali400 mp2)'s 3d performance is higher than GS II.because mali400 on rk2918 is400MHz but GS2 only 275MHz.
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Just wonder whether clocking up the GPU might pose heating issues.
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Hi geeks,
checkout this wiki for general information around the new Exynos dual core
http://www.arndaleboard.org/wiki/index.php/Resources
Of course this file might be of special interest...
BTW:
This document is marked as confidential but it's public available.
So Mike, if this is against rules... tell me!
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Antutu benchmark of Nexus 10
http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2960
Quite impressive because antutu depends much on the number of cores and clockrate rather than architechture (1.5 Ghz Snapdragon S3 got ~6600 while 1.4 Ghz Exynos 4210 on GNote had only ~6300)
And the NAND flash is pretty good too, 16.6MB/s write and >50 MB/s read (in fact my Note 2 has 200 point in SD card read with the mark >50 MB/s too, but this one is 10% faster)
I would love to see one of those fancy graphics comparing the Nexus10 performance with "the others".
We know that it's better but how much better?
And if you want more specs, here's two other benchmarks:
SunSpider:
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If anyone is interested in the Antutu scores across the Nexus 4, 7 and 10 devices I've cut'n'paste them together from the Antutu site linked above...
These results are as recorded by Antutu himself at these links...
Nexus 10 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2960
Nexus 7 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=1282
Nexus 4 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2940
The 3D and 2D scores on the Nexus 10 keeps up with the other two devices which seems quite impressive considering the higher resolution.
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If anyone is interested in the Antutu scores across the Nexus 4, 7 and 10 devices I've cut'n'paste them together from the Antutu site linked above...
These results are as recorded by Antutu himself at these links...
Nexus 10 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2960
Nexus 7 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=1282
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The 3D and 2D scores on the Nexus 10 keeps up with the other two devices which seems quite impressive considering the higher resolution.
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Odd, why is the CPU on the Nexus 10 slower than the others? I thought that the A15 was supposed to be the fastest thing on the market right now, which would go nicely with the fastest GPU (Mali 604 or whatever it is).
Also, Scumbag Antutu forces the tablet into portrait. I would love it if Google could somehow force apps to run in landscape, apps should never be in portrait on a 16:10 tablet this big unless I deem it so by orienting it in portrait.
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Odd, why is the CPU on the Nexus 10 slower than the others? I thought that the A15 was supposed to be the fastest thing on the market right now, which would go nicely with the fastest GPU (Mali 604 or whatever it is).
Also, Scumbag Antutu forces the tablet into portrait. I would love it if Google could somehow force apps to run in landscape, apps should never be in portrait on a 16:10 tablet this big unless I deem it so by orienting it in portrait.
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Need to keep in mind that the N10 is running at a MUCH larger resolution, that most likely has something to do with it. Had the processor been on the same device as the 4 and 7 you would see a substantial difference.
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Need to keep in mind that the N10 is running at a MUCH larger resolution, that most likely has something to do with it. Had the processor been on the same device as the 4 and 7 you would see a substantial difference.
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But I wouldn't expect the load of that higher res to go to the CPU, just the GPU (so 2D and 3D scores). Does the CPU get involved in video processing in SoCs?
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Does the Nexus label mean that all drivers for this device will be open source? As in, none of the BS that the devs for the i777 are experiencing with Samsung completely unwilling to release specs for the Exynos/Mali combo in that device?
EDIT: Answered my own question. The AOSP site itself tells you to go get the blobs for specific devices if you want to build. So no. Ah well, my concern would be fully functional OS updates, and the Nexus label DOES solve that - at least for a couple of years after release.
These I/O results look promising. A lot better then the transformer prime I had.
While it's nice to see numbers and you should always take them with a grain of salt (for obvious reasons). I for one am just going to wait till I have my Nexus 10 in my hands and see how she flies. I have no doubts that it will run todays apps with no issues and last you easily for a year +. I for one am drooling over the display (esp if non-pentile). Just hope Samsung did something to address the possiblity of pixel fatigue and ghosting/image retention.
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Odd, why is the CPU on the Nexus 10 slower than the others? I thought that the A15 was supposed to be the fastest thing on the market right now, which would go nicely with the fastest GPU (Mali 604 or whatever it is).
Also, Scumbag Antutu forces the tablet into portrait. I would love it if Google could somehow force apps to run in landscape, apps should never be in portrait on a 16:10 tablet this big unless I deem it so by orienting it in portrait.
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Because it's ANTUTU benchmark. As I said in #2, Antutu always prefer number of cores and frequency of cores rather than the architechture.
That's why the Crapdragon S3 1.5 GHz having higher score than 1.4 GHz Exynos 4210 in GNote.
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Because it's ANTUTU benchmark. As I said in #2, Antutu always prefer number of cores and frequency of cores rather than the architechture.
That's why the Crapdragon S3 1.5 GHz having higher score than 1.4 GHz Exynos 4210 in GNote.
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What are you talking about. The snapdragon is a better architecture with less cores. You have it backwards.
Edit: thought you meant snapdragon s4.
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Here are the benchmarks from Anand's review of Chromebook:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6422/samsung-chromebook-xe303-review-testing-arms-cortex-a15/6
I am almost sure that the N10 will be better optimized compared to Chromebook purely because of the resources dedicated for Android. Also shows that Samsung is still Google's preferred partner in terms of hardware.
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While it's nice to see numbers and you should always take them with a grain of salt (for obvious reasons). I for one am just going to wait till I have my Nexus 10 in my hands and see how she flies. I have no doubts that it will run todays apps with no issues and last you easily for a year +. I for one am drooling over the display (esp if non-pentile). Just hope Samsung did something to address the possiblity of pixel fatigue and ghosting/image retention.
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It's not an AMOLED display, it's a Super PLS (LCD), isn't it?
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What are you talking about. The snapdragon is a better architecture with less cores. You have it backwards.
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Do a research man! You can searxh how sh.t crapdragon s3 msm 8660 compared to exynos 4210 in the same galaxy note (US variant vs int variant)
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That sun spider score is bad vs the chrome book must be the resolution which is high for even high end PCs.
The epic screen was always going to eat most of the resources, the question is: whatever benchmark the final (and in future surely improved) SW version produces, is it enough for smooth operation? That answer will most likely be yes. Chromebook shows huge HW potential, but it's also more optimized at this moment, patience my lads.
The hardware has the potential
Hi Guys,
Came across this while researching Exynos 5250. Looks like the hardware is very capable to handle the WQXGA resolution with memory bandwidth and power to spare. This white paper also mentions the support for 1080p 60fps wireless display. So I hope Miracast will be reality as well, just Google needs to step up and utilize the hardware to its full potential. Its an interesting read none the less..
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www_samsung_com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/data/ Enjoy_the_Ultimate_WQXGA_Solution_with_Exynos_5_Dual_WP.pdf
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oneguy7 said:
Hi Guys,
Came across this while researching Exynos 5250. Looks like the hardware is very capable to handle the WQXGA resolution with memory bandwidth and power to spare. This white paper also mentions the support for 1080p 60fps wireless display. So I hope Miracast will be reality as well, just Google needs to step up and utilize the hardware to its full potential. Its an interesting read none the less..
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www_samsung_com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/data/ Enjoy_the_Ultimate_WQXGA_Solution_with_Exynos_5_Dual_WP.pdf
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If the link does not work, google exynos 5 dual white paper.
I ran Quadrant and compared the results with those of my old Epic 4g.
Epic 4g Graphics (3d) score is 1666. N10 Graphics (3d) score is 2087. See below.
Epic 4g, rooted, FC09 MTD deodexed, Shadow kernel io/cpu=deadline/ondemand
Nexus 10, not rooted
This is a quick poll to get input on every ones feeling since hearing about Samsung unveiling the Exynos 5 OctaCore Processor at CES. Input your feelings and participate in the poll as to your next move since getting the news.
This thing surely won't fit in a tablet anyway without active cooling, so I don't think N10 owners should be worried.
Edit: I've read an article about it and I see it'll be eight-core because of having a big.little architecture, so it actually sounds pretty cool that way .
Yes (4) A15's for Intense usage and (4) maybe A7's for lightweight task. 28nm in size!
Tech marches on. We wont start seeing this for a while in tablets, and even when we do, so what? We still have one of the fastest CPUs on the market today, and it'll still be quite good by the time the octo-core variants arrive. Cores mean nothing without software to use them, and right now the majority of phones out are dual-core. So its not a big advantage.
I'd still consider this a quad core CPU.
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I'd still consider this a quad core CPU.
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Because it is. Its effectively two CPUs that can be switched dynamically. It might have really good battery life, but performance wise I doubt it'll be significantly better than the one in the N10.
Edit: What's with the N10 hate in the poll options?
Jotokun said:
Because it is. Its effectively two CPUs that can be switched dynamically. It might have really good battery life, but performance wise I doubt it'll be significantly better than the one in the N10.
Edit: What's with the N10 hate in the poll options?
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It would be definitely better than exynos 5250 specially at the Gpu part 4x compute performance of Mali 604 (Gpu of n10) and 10x graphics performance of Mali 400 overall I expect it to perform at least 2x of Mali t 604 and surpass iPad4
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Also with 70% more battery savings than nexus 10
And in the cpu part a quad core A15 what could you want more
At least this looks good on paper
Jotokun said:
Because it is. Its effectively two CPUs that can be switched dynamically. It might have really good battery life, but performance wise I doubt it'll be significantly better than the one in the N10.
Edit: What's with the N10 hate in the poll options?
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Sorry didn't realize that I didn't add a "My Nexus is the Best Option". I love my Nexus 10 a lot and I added the only good option as "XDA will iron out its faults" simply because although our tablet is the best Android tablet out there at the moment IMO due to the throttling of our processor I feel may'be they could have ironed out the HEAT issues before releasing the processor for our Tablet. I really hope Google has a huge update coming specifically made for this issue with our Nexus 10. Also once a lot more apps are optimized we'll really see the benefit of having our processor perform as it should.
i9100g user said:
It would be definitely better than exynos 5250 specially at the Gpu part 4x compute performance of Mali 604 (Gpu of n10) and 10x graphics performance of Mali 400 overall I expect it to perform at least 2x of Mali t 604 and surpass iPad4
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Also with 70% more battery savings than nexus 10
And in the cpu part a quad core A15 what could you want more
At least this looks good on paper
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Do you have any place that backs that up? Last I read (and I haven't read for a day or two), they didn't really comment on the GPU portion. Not trying to be a ****, I'm honestly curious.
Jackietreehorn said:
Do you have any place that backs that up? Last I read (and I haven't read for a day or two), they didn't really comment on the GPU portion. Not trying to be a ****, I'm honestly curious.
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Well search Mali t 658 on Google and go to the first link which should be from anand tech
And Mali t 658 is the Gpu that should be used here as the road maps show that exynos 5 quad would be paired with a Mali t 658 Gpu
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Well ok some new articles show that the octa processor gives 2x(graphical) performance over previous generation exynos ie Mali 400 so it could be a Mali t 604 its unclear right we will have to wait for full details to release, otherwise A15 quad should have had Mali t 658 according to their roadmaps
I honestly wouldn't know what to do with an Android device that had 8 CPU cores... But if I could dual-boot (or replace) with some actual Linux onto such a device, then it might be very interesting
Samsung Exynos 5 Octa
This is the reason why i love tech world these days. Every thing comes so fast. It's like every tablet will only have several months to enjoy its fame before the new ones with much better specs arrive. I think Exynos 5 octa will be in Nexus 10 sequel from Samsung, with Tegra 4 in the Nexus from Asus, with the new Qualcomm chip in the Nexus 4.
Or maybe Google might decide to re-launch its Nexus line up in 2013 that will be armed with the newest chips from NVIDIA, Samsung and Qualcomm with the new brand names, say, Nexus 4S, Nexus 7S and Nexus 10S.
This will be interesting to see. Nexus maniacs will get like every experience that being offered on every Nexus device. No matter what Nexus' sequel you are gonna pick up, they will be great in performance and gaming aspects.
i9100g user said:
Well search Mali t 658 on Google and go to the first link which should be from anand tech
And Mali t 658 is the Gpu that should be used here as the road maps show that exynos 5 quad would be paired with a Mali t 658 Gpu
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Well ok some new articles show that the octa processor gives 2x(graphical) performance over previous generation exynos ie Mali 400 so it could be a Mali t 604 its unclear right we will have to wait for full details to release, otherwise A15 quad should have had Mali t 658 according to their roadmaps
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So, found a bit of an update. Apparently the Octa will be powered not by Mali, but by a PowerVR SGX 544MP3 (according to multiple sources, certainly not 100% confirmed as of yet). Apparently, that particular GPU sits between the one used in the A5X and the A6X.
Unfortunate that they didn't use something that would overtake the A6X GPU, but thought it was noteworthy that they're completely changing GPUs.
Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6654/...a-powered-by-powervr-sgx-544mp3-not-arms-mali
A lot of people don't realize that Samsung has a relationship with Imagination Technologies as do other chip makers, even those who make their own GPUs. Given how thirsty the Mali GPU in the Nexus 10 is, maybe the power vr equivalent will be more battery efficient. I know based on power consumption that the exynos 5250 is not really suitable for cell phone use in its present form.
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At any rate, I think it would be up to Google or Samsung to release a patch or update to fix their thermal algorithm if its not using a true temperature reading. My device never feels hot. That's not saying much if anything at all but from other posts where people actually opened the thing up and tested temps, it is throttling much too soon to be correct. I think they baked the throttling in to increase battery life personally as this chip can burn through the battery fast if it was allowed to run 100% with GPU/CPU .
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I thought the octa core cpus gpu is not confirmed yet?
And it will beat ipad 4 but not the upcoming ipad 5 which would be released around the same time the octa core device
My two cents
Edit: isn't mali from arm?
Apple and ti is related to it...
The powervr gpus u mean?
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tegra 4
This 8 - core does look pretty cool but I think I will be buying a tegra 4 instead.
xda_biscuits said:
This 8 - core does look pretty cool but I think I will be buying a tegra 4 instead.
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Same here as exynos chipsets are never optimised...
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Besides it is actually quad core. 8 cores will never be used at the same time. 4 cores with lot of horsepower (and drains battery?) and 4 cores with less power (for battery saving)
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xda_biscuits said:
This 8 - core does look pretty cool but I think I will be buying a tegra 4 instead.
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edwinpang said:
Same here as exynos chipsets are never optimised...
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U mean tegras are more optimized than exynos?..they suck and fail everytime on mobile devices.. Tegras are way suckier when it comes to mobile platforms..no thankss..
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8 cores.. lol
Reminds me of this
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A well knowned tipster- Digital Chat Station declares that the new Tensor chip is all about octa-core.
However, Google usage a 2+2+4 core design. Means 2×2.8ghz power core and other 2×2.25ghz power core. Although there has a 4 cores of power consumption cores. Which is clocked at 1.8ghz.
Not only the CPU is strong but also Google will use here a Mali- G78 GPU, which is the best in class GPU that we're all see today.
Conclusion is, Google will optimised it at there best. For that it will provide the potential speed and features.
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its just a commissioned chip via Samsung
its a relabeled Exynos, it will be utter trash.
strelokcyka said:
its just a commissioned chip via Samsung
its a relabeled Exynos, it will be utter trash.
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What else would it be? Or less.
It's no Snapdragon...
Now we all know it's actually a member of Exynos 1080/2100 family with some Google's custom components... Someone said that the Tensor's code nunber was "e9855", while Samsung's flagship Exynos 2100 wss "e9840".
If that's true, the Tensor could have 2 Cortex-X1 cores, and it would be a lot more powerful (at least for the CPU part) than Snapdragon 888(+) and Kirin 9000.
strelokcyka said:
its just a commissioned chip via Samsung
its a relabeled Exynos, it will be utter trash.
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Exynos 2100 isn't really trash, though the previous few generations were
Missignal_Dev said:
Exynos 2100 isn't really trash, though the previous few generations were
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Guess it depends how well Gookill tunes it.
Recent test scores look real good at least on Samsung devices.
Exynos 2100 vs Snapdragon 888: Benchmarking the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra versions
We have some performance numbers of our own to go over and examine. For quite some time now Samsung has been releasing two versions of most of its premium...
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The best tester's for the new pixel chip will be the XDA members! Cheers
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Exynos 2100 isn't really trash, though the previous few generations were
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Excessive battery heat, drain and short life going off of track record sure sounds like trash to me.
But hey if you want to buy bad chips, you do you.
strelokcyka said:
Excessive battery heat, drain and short life going off of track record sure sounds like trash to me.
But hey if you want to buy bad chips, you do you.
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That can happen with any chipset in a Samsung.
It's a common and usually correctable issue.
However, for instance, the 20 Ultras had random heat sinks in use, the copper vapor phase ones ran cool, the graphene pad ones ran hot.
Personally though I wouldn't buy a Google phone or one without a SD card slot.
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Now we all know it's actually a member of Exynos 1080/2100 family with some Google's custom components... Someone said that the Tensor's code nunber was "e9855", while Samsung's flagship Exynos 2100 wss "e9840".
If that's true, the Tensor could have 2 Cortex-X1 cores, and it would be a lot more powerful (at least for the CPU part) than Snapdragon 888(+) and Kirin 9000.
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Yes, I expect google's new pixel phone.
strelokcyka said:
its just a commissioned chip via Samsung
its a relabeled Exynos, it will be utter trash.
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Is there any possibilities of google making an upgrade to that processor
ivigneshwaran said:
Is there any possibilities of google making an upgrade to that processor
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Unlikely especially given the ongoing chipset shortage which is only going to get worse.
Hold off for at least a year if you can. Firmware (R) and hardware issues dominate this year's releases... not a pretty picture.
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Unlikely especially given the ongoing chipset shortage which is only going to get worse.
Hold off for at least a year if you can. Firmware (R) and hardware issues dominate this year's releases... not a pretty picture.
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But we xda'ers like the challenge to fix everything that Google breaks!
galaxys said:
But we xda'ers like the challenge to fix everything that Google breaks!
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Yes, well... then you are sure to be some of the happiest SOBs on the planet!
The codename is GS101/S5E9845, I saw on this page the specs and Antutu benchmarks for pixel 6.
Google Tensor - PhoneMore
Google Tensor specs, benchmark, performance, architecture, memory and all chipset specifications and technical features.
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The Pro version with 12GB RAM is much better, but Exynos 2100 is better than Tensor