So considering what ive heard about the Unbrickable mod if i buy another device off ebay with a broken screen i should be able to just replace the main processor board correct?Or is it the harddrive as well perhaps? what exactly happens when it becomes unbrickable?How much of the device is actually affected?
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So considering what ive heard about the Unbrickable mod if i buy another device off ebay with a broken screen i should be able to just replace the main processor board correct?Or is it the harddrive as well perhaps? what exactly happens when it becomes unbrickable?How much of the device is actually affected?
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I...I... don't understand this question?
Basically my device is bricked almost beyond repair, theirs something called Unbrickable mod that you can do but you actually have to take the whole thing apart and short some resistors together or something.I don't understand the mod well enough to do it myself so im really just asking instead of modding it if i can just replace the whole board, but i dont know exactly what part of the device is making it bricked.
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Basically my device is bricked almost beyond repair, theirs something called Unbrickable mod that you can do but you actually have to take the whole thing apart and short some resistors together or something.I don't understand the mod well enough to do it myself so im really just asking instead of modding it if i can just replace the whole board, but i dont know exactly what part of the device is making it bricked.
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The only thing I've ever heard of with "unbrickable" in it, is the "Unbrickable Resurector" here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386669. The Galaxy Player 5.0 is considered "unbrickable" because there is nothing you can do "software wise" to brick the device without being able to bring it back. The only way, I know of, to brick the Player 5.0, is for there to physically damage the hardware of for the hardware to fail.
I haven't heard of any mod where you can "short some resistors" unless your talking about JTAG....
Why do you believe that your device is bricked beyond repair?
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The only thing I've ever heard of with "unbrickable" in it, is the "Unbrickable Resurector" here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386669. The Galaxy Player 5.0 is considered "unbrickable" because there is nothing you can do "software wise" to brick the device without being able to bring it back. The only way, I know of, to brick the Player 5.0, is for there to physically damage the hardware of for the hardware to fail.
I haven't heard of any mod where you can "short some resistors" unless your talking about JTAG....
Why do you believe that your device is bricked beyond repair?
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Oh sure you can totally brick it in software. I've done it twice. You have to corrupt the SBL without corrupting the PBL. That way it still tries to boot from eMMC, but fails, instead of trying to boot over USB.
He's talking about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206216. Apparently AdamOutler's friend's device was PBL corrupted, so he only needed the Resurrector to fix it, and hence has never looked for the OMx pins (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236273 - nobody's tested it).
@Brasstire, the broken part is the bootloader on the flash memory chip, which is between the CPU and the mainboard, so you'd need to replace the mainboard. Or you can get it JTAG'd for $40 from mobiletechvideos (http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-player-5-0-jtag-brick-repair-service/).
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Oh sure you can totally brick it in software. I've done it twice. You have to corrupt the SBL without corrupting the PBL. That way it still tries to boot from eMMC, but fails, instead of trying to boot over USB.
He's talking about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206216. Apparently AdamOutler's friend's device was PBL corrupted, so he only needed the Resurrector to fix it, and hence has never looked for the OMx pins (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236273 - nobody's tested it).
@Brasstire, the broken part is the bootloader on the flash memory chip, which is between the CPU and the mainboard, so you'd need to replace the mainboard. Or you can get it JTAG'd for $40 from mobiletechvideos (http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-player-5-0-jtag-brick-repair-service/).
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Thanks for the conformation, i assumed it was the main board but wasn't sure that was the only thing affected.I think ill just end up replacing the main board, JTAGing and fixing it myself will be about the same price but i think ill do it myself so i have some extra replacements parts when im done.
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Maybe i´ll be the first one who admits. But i successfully managed to fully brick my sgs2 (shame on me).
Calling my self stupid after that. Yes i do.
I missed to check wether there where processes vom kiez running as i started to flash with odin (3 parts).
At some point during the PIT section odin had a freeze and was gone. I waited for hours with no positive result.
Usb jib showed to reaction.
The result is, the phone is pretty much dead. No reaction on usb connectino. wether usb or ac.
Pulling the battery and all kind of hints did not work....
Anyone else faced similar problems?
I just send the phone to the repaircenter of my mobile provider.
Hopefully the flash is damaged that badly that they wont find a thing
The first thing to prevent bricking your device is NEVER FLASH .PIT FILE NOR TICK REPARTITION ON ODIN, NEVER!!! Now that it's done, the only thing that can help you is a JTAG box. The guys on the repair centre will have this and hopefully will be able to unbrick your device. Good luck, and then when you get it back and alive, do not mess with the .PIT again
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The first thing to prevent bricking your device is NEVER FLASH .PIT FILE, NEVER!!! Now that it's done, the only thing that can help you is a JTAG box. The guys on the repair centre will have this and hopefully will be able to unbrick your device. Good luck, and then when you get it back and alive, do not mess with the .PIT again
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The worse part is, i basicly was aware of that.....
I doubt that some "common support guys" will have a jtag box and will solder the contact to the circuit board.
Im aware of the fact that this would be the only way to get hands on the badly damaged flash
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The worse part is, i basicly was aware of that.....
I doubt that some "common support guys" will have a jtag box and will solder the contact to the circuit board.
Im aware of the fact that this would be the only way to get hands on the badly damaged flash
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I'm sure they will have the equipment. This is the basic tool for their work. If they don't, take a look here:
http://www.jtagbox.com/riff-jtag-bo...s-unbrick-bricked-phone-riff-box-owners-list/
Some of those businesses are located in Germany. You can use the Deutsche Post it they are not near you.
(I did the same thing . Tried to flash with ODin but crashed and phone didnt respond to anything (only get warmed when i was charging it).
Send it to Samsung Service Center, told it happend throught Kiez (ye Kiez is such a unstable application and they know it ) they told me they change the motherboard of phone (but i think they just Jtag it). Of course warranty was used since i never rooted it and used official samsung firmware
@immunity : lucky enough i doubt that some common support guys can operate with a jtag. Dont you think they have to solder the contacts to the circuit board?
They told me they couldn't fix it and they had to send it to the central samsung service company (in Athens) so they might Jtag there, well both ways(Jtag or replacement) they had to remove the circuit board off the phone.
thats why i think, that my chances to get away with a blue eye are pretty good.
even though its 100% my own stupidity or fault. however you like to call it ;-)
Also Biba that hard brick = totally eraise of the data in ur circuit phone. so they find an empty storage memory. Althought as I told I have never rooted my phone , but even if you have rooted yours they cant find it.
Its like PC i believe repartition = format and install new firmware. and for Jtag as i saw from Youtubevideo. they cant see what it's inside (if partly of flashed firmware was saved on ur phone). Say " KIEZ DID IT ! :O "
I dont think there is a way to proof it was your fault xD
So the phone that ic completly bricked can be fixed with JTAG and my IMAI can not be put back to the phone that is working? Hmmm maybe i should brick it?
current status
i just talked to the repair guys. it seems that they repaired the phone, updated (completly new flash) the phone and exchanged some power circuit parts.
got word, that im going to get it back tomorrow or latest at monday.
damn i am a lucky son of a gun
Hey, I've got the same problem. I will try it out too... Please god, let "KIEZ DID IT! :O" work... This device is my life!
Thanks guys. Will keep you posted!
i'll keep my fingers crossed for you buddy.
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Hi,
I read and followed lots of excellent threads on here and successfully rooted my S2. I then flashed it with the Revolution ROM which worked fine, later tried the VK + Siyah which also ran fine.
Today I decided to try WajkIUI but after flashing and rebooting, the phone reset, the button lights came on and then it hung. Now I can't get a thing out of it, no booting, no recovery mode and no sign of it in ODIN.
It sounds completely hard-bricked but I don't really understand how it can be.
Any ideas?
Have tried soft and hard resetting but nothing.
Cheers
Without recovery mode your last best (remote) chance before you send it to Samsung would be a jig.
That's what I was thinking but why would it hard brick if the flash had worked?
And if I send if back to Samsung the warranty will be void anyway won't it?
Unfortunately that one's like asking how long a piece of string is (in other words, who knows ?). If it's a case of the NAND being stuffed as a result of the flash, a JTAG repair may fix it, but you won't know that until/unless you send it to a JTAG repairer.
It may be a hardware issue, cpu might have carked it or something.
Yeah, you've pretty much voided the warranty by putting non-stock firmware on it, but at the end of the day if Samsung can't tell it's been messed with you might get away with a warranty repair/replacement.
You'll only know that if you send it in to them to be looked at. So I guess you've got two choices to consider (not including the remote chance of the jig getting you into download mode).
I guess you could try another battery. Always the possibility it might have died.
Crap. Well, I'll give a jig a go and if that doesn't work then send it back and see what happens.
@ op
did you tried the key press combination to get into download mode? the things you have done has a very less possibility of hard brick.
That's what I thought, but no combination seems to work.
Was the battery full when you flashed?
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Think it was about 96%.
You never know, it might just be a completely knackered battery. If you're planning on getting it fixed come what may, spending 20 bucks or whatever they cost in your country on another battery won't be the waste of money you might initially think.
If it doesn't fix this problem, at least you'll have a 2nd battery when you do get it fixed. I know I've found having a 2nd battery a godsend since I got mine a month ago, has come in really handy on trips where I've been away for more than a day and has meant I haven't had to worry bout bringing a charger along.
Could a battery just die like that? Seems a bit of coincidence.
Dunno. Anything's possible I guess. Yeah you're right, that would be coincidence. Given what you were doing when it died, I'm betting the NAND is shot & it will need to be JTAG'd either by Samsung or someone else.
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Could a battery just die like that? Seems a bit of coincidence.
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Which sucks. That said, according to a site in the UK it costs about £8 plus postage. Have ordered a USB jig just in case, and for £3 it's worth a go.
The really annoying thing is whether to root again if/when I do get it sorted. Am also checking with my network, see if they'll have a go under warranty and I'll forget to mention I was rooting it.
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Dunno. Anything's possible I guess. Yeah you're right, that would be coincidence. Given what you were doing when it died, I'm betting the NAND is shot & it will need to be JTAG'd either by Samsung or someone else.
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On that note....if I wanted to upgrade to ICS, how would that be done without rooting - ie. would the counter look the same? (Long shot)
Yeah if you're going to get it fixed, chances are you'll end up flashing/rooting it again, so the jig will come in handy.
I guess that's something you'll need to decide when you get it back/get a new one. What happened to you isn't the norm tho. The large majority of flashes go smoothly for most people. But the reality is, every time you do it, you do run that small risk of it barfing for any number of a gazillion reasons (which are normally impossible to discover once it's happened). That's the risk people like us who frequent sites like this take.
Yeah if they/Samsung can't tell what happened to it, you'll possibly get away with it. And the fact you rooted it isn't information you have to volunteer to them by any means As to exactly what you should tell them, that's up to you.
Edit to add - Let us know how you get on once you have it sorted. Always useful to have people's experiences on here to give other people it happens to some kind of idea of how it might go down.
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Which sucks. That said, according to a site in the UK it costs about £8 plus postage. Have ordered a USB jig just in case, and for £3 it's worth a go.
The really annoying thing is whether to root again if/when I do get it sorted. Am also checking with my network, see if they'll have a go under warranty and I'll forget to mention I was rooting it.
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Well, according to the boffins online I have to go into a store to see if they can repair it. Hopefully they won't be able to check whether it's been rooted or not instore. In fact, if they can't power it on, I don't see how they could.
Random technical question: how can a software/firmware fault stop the hardware from even starting?
My only reference is building a PC - even if you knacker the BIOS and the harddrive, it will still power on so you can access them to put them right.
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Random technical question: how can a software/firmware fault stop the hardware from even starting?
My only reference is building a PC - even if you knacker the BIOS and the harddrive, it will still power on so you can access them to put them right.
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Firmware includes the boot sequence and recovery sequence on Android .
power goes to boot on file in effect
Or key combination goes to load recovery or download .
jje
Is that a bit of a flaw, for circumstances just like this?
And, does this mean that the USB jig has no chance of working - or is that the exact reason it might work?
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Firmware includes the boot sequence and recovery sequence on Android .
power goes to boot on file in effect
Or key combination goes to load recovery or download .
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i thing jig can solve the problem
Hey guys, sorry for another topic, however I actually do know what is wrong with my phone and know it needs to be JTAG repaired..
however... I was wondering if anyone knew the root cause of this (no pun intended).. I was flashing JellyBam v5.0 (custom [email protected]~) and mid installation, phone froze, powered down and is now bricked. Any reason why it would do that mid install? Battery was 95%+
cheers
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Hey guys, sorry for another topic, however I actually do know what is wrong with my phone and know it needs to be JTAG repaired..
however... I was wondering if anyone knew the root cause of this (no pun intended).. I was flashing JellyBam v5.0 (custom [email protected]~) and mid installation, phone froze, powered down and is now bricked. Any reason why it would do that mid install? Battery was 95%+
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Please state more details. Rom, kernel, modem, odin, cwm, etc
He did. Regardless, none of that info would be relevant/useful in this case anyway, phone's borked.
@OP - Honestly, that's impossible to say. Something hardware related in the phone, something simple like the battery contacts not making a proper connection, something on the PC side even (temporary issue with the connection b/w the PC & phone) ? The possibilities are endless.
Have it looked at by a JTAG repairer & if that can't be done, maybe try and source a motherboard from a donor phone (broken screen or whatever). That will be the cheaper option than having Samsung replace the MB if it can't be JTAG'd, even if you pay a local mobile repair shop to install the 'new' MB (if you're not confident enough to DIY).
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Please state more details. Rom, kernel, modem, odin, cwm, etc
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He did. Regardless, none of that info would be relevant/useful in this case anyway, phone's borked.
@OP - Honestly, that's impossible to say. Something hardware related in the phone, something simple like the battery contacts not making a proper connection, something on the PC side even (temporary issue with the connection b/w the PC & phone) ? The possibilities are endless.
Have it looked at by a JTAG repairer & if that can't be done, maybe try and source a motherboard from a donor phone (broken screen or whatever). That will be the cheaper option than having Samsung replace the MB if it can't be JTAG'd, even if you pay a local mobile repair shop to install the 'new' MB (if you're not confident enough to DIY).
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Yeah you are right it could be anything happening within the phone without my knowledge, luckily phone was connected to mains when i was flashing using CWM so no problems there, but i don't think i will find the reason why it actually happened as you said the possibilities are endless
I'm trying to get in touch with a place that does JTAG repairs at the moment, however im just scared they say it can't be done. Havent really got the money to fork out for a new MB. I bought the phone second hand last year (april) where i was told it was only 3-4weeks old however had no old purchase details. Is there any way for me to check if the warranty is still valid or does it become void after resale? Thanks
There used to be an online warranty checker on one of Samsung's regional websites (can't remember which, maybe someone else does ?) where you could put the serial number in & get the warranty end date, but I recall people on here saying it either went away or didn't work anymore at some point last year.
But I doubt you'd get warranty service without the original receipt anyway, and even if you had it, I'm not sure the warranty is transferable beyond the original purchaser (Someone else please correct me if they know of cases where the warranty has been honoured regardless, I realise this might vary from country to country).
Unless the phone has physical damage as opposed to the NAND simply being scrambled beyond all recognition which normally happens when a flash goes wrong like that, you'd probably expect it to be JTAG'able.
If it's not, as I said in my PP, a board from a 'donor' phone would be much cheaper to both buy/have installed than paying a Samsung authorised repairer to put a new MB in (apparently they charge in the vicinity of half what a new phone would cost retail).
Edit - Re: getting a 'donor' phone for the MB, here's an example of what I'm talking about; no doubt you'll probably pick one up cheaper, just thought I'd give you an example of what to look for if you end up needing to go down that path.
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I'm trying to get in touch with a place that does JTAG repairs at the moment, however im just scared they say it can't be done. Havent really got the money to fork out for a new MB. I bought the phone second hand last year (april) where i was told it was only 3-4weeks old however had no old purchase details. Is there any way for me to check if the warranty is still valid or does it become void after resale? Thanks
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There used to be an online warranty checker on one of Samsung's regional websites (can't remember which, maybe someone else does ?) where you could put the serial number in & get the warranty end date, but I recall people on here saying it either went away or didn't work anymore at some point last year.
But I doubt you'd get warranty service without the original receipt anyway, and even if you had it, I'm not sure the warranty is transferable beyond the original purchaser (Someone else please correct me if they know of cases where the warranty has been honoured regardless, I realise this might vary from country to country).
Unless the phone has physical damage as opposed to the NAND simply being scrambled beyond all recognition which normally happens when a flash goes wrong like that, you'd probably expect it to be JTAG'able.
If it's not, as I said in my PP, a board from a 'donor' phone would be much cheaper to both buy/have installed than paying a Samsung authorised repairer to put a new MB in (apparently they charge in the vicinity of half what a new phone would cost retail).
Edit - Re: getting a 'donor' phone for the MB, here's an example of what I'm talking about; no doubt you'll probably pick one up cheaper, just thought I'd give you an example of what to look for if you end up needing to go down that path.
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I think you're right on that one, if i don't even have proof of purchase then I don't think warranty will be valid. Thanks anyway on that behalf. Yeah it is only that one issue nothing else is wrong physically so i am hoping for the best and do believe a JTAG should get me out of this situation without a problem (fingers crossed).
On the topic of a replacement motherboard thank you very much for pointing me in the right direction if JTAG fails. Buying a cheap phone as such is a great idea and taking a working motherboard for a lot cheaper than RRP is wonderful.
Thankyou very much for your input & help ::highfive:
I have the EXACT same problem...
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I have the EXACT same problem...
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It happened to both of us whilst installing JellyBam v5, so surely there must be a problem with the ROM? We encountered the exact same issue 100% and are both left in the same position now due to the ROM
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It happened to both of us whilst installing JellyBam v5, so surely there must be a problem with the ROM? We encountered the exact same issue 100% and are both left in the same position now due to the ROM
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I have the exact same problem yeah, but i know a friend of mine who used the same ROM as we did.. it worked for him though
Always try a Jig before JTAG, no harm there.
If warrantu isn't voided, make sure it's really bricked so you can claim it with the "I was updating it via wifi and dropped dead" rutine.
No probs. Just sorry we couldn't be of more help. Best of luck (Hope it ends up being easily JTAG'able for you).
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Thankyou very much for your input & help ::highfive:
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Hi Guys,
I have hard bricked my SGS2 I9100 as .pit file flash failed. Now there is no download/recovery/normal boot. It is completely dead, not detected on any PC by USB/Odin. It gets hot and there is slight vibration while charging. There is no response for USB Jig.
Samsung service center told there is motherboard issue and they don't repair it, they straight away replace it for $150 which I am unwilling to spend now.The phone has gone through the hands of many good technicians but all dismissed the chance of repair saying its an major hardware issue and components are out of stock/ unwilling to do it.
A repairman said he tried to JTAG it but from what he says is that eMMc chip didn't respond to Riff Box. I am not sure whether he correctly tried it on a Riff Box or any other box.
My questions are,
Q1) Should I once again try to JTAG it through other source ? Can any one tell me what's difference does it make to either JTAG it on Riff Box/Medusa/Z3X/GPG & Other Boxes ?
Q2) Does replacing the eMMc flash chip & power IC with new one increases the chances to revive the phone ?
Q3) If I were to replace the IC's from where could I buy it in "India" or should I buy it from aliexpress.com ?
Q4) Are the below IC models correct for I9100:
eMMc Flash IC: KMVYL000LM-B503 or KLMCG8GE2A-A001 (I am unable to
find this chip KLMCG8GE2A-A001 to buy if it is for I9100) source: mobiletechvideos.com
Power IC: MAX8997
Q5) Is there any other method apart from replacing IC's/JTAGGING through which I can repair my I9100 ?
Awaiting your responses. :fingers-crossed:
Long story short - replace the motherboard or buy a new phone.You already tried everything.
Only a few people had successfully replaced the eMMC chip.As it's very hard to do.Resoldering these kind of chips is simply impractical.
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Long story short - replace the motherboard or buy a new phone.You already tried everything.
Only a few people had successfully replaced the eMMC chip.As it's very hard to do.Resoldering these kind of chips is simply impractical.
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I agree to your point. But still I want to take a chance with the eMMc/Power IC replacement option. At my end I am looking for a proficient technician who can do precision soldering, what I want from this forum is, has IC replacement worked for any one of you guys and if yes can you mention the detailed steps for the same. Because on GSM Hosting forums a lot of guys have replaced the IC's and got their S2 working. But because of technical issue of minimum 10 post for a new thread I cannot ask there. This forum is my only hope to find proper solution to my problem.
You won't see anyone post those steps because I've never seen anyone on here post they've had someone do this repair successfully. I've seen a number of people post here (particularly over the past 6 mths & particularly in some countries) that they've been offered this fix, but not a single one has posted & said they had it done & it was successful.
Why ? Because no tech with any competence would attempt this for a couple of reasons:-
1) It would be a pain in the arse to try. It would be very fiddly/take a long time. Small electronics these days is mostly 'modular' & replacement of tiny parts just doesn't happen anymore; 'boards' are replaced because it's quicker/easier for the tech, and cheaper for the customer. Even if these fixes were possible, you'd pay more than what a motherboard replacement would cost. And even then you're probably relying on someone with questionable technical ability telling you it is possible when people who really know what they're doing & talking about just wouldn't bother.
2) You have no way of knowing yourself whether you're being told the truth about this 'power IC' nonsense actually being the problem. What happens if you try this fix, only to find out the NAND is actually corrupted (which it is 99.999999999999999999999999% of the time; you are not the exception here); this means you pay for the fix which has no chance of working, and then you pay again for a motherboard replacement or new phone.
By all means sit in this thread for months & months with a non-working phone waiting for the information you're after to be posted, but it never will be for the reasons I've mentioned. If it was me, I'd want my phone working ASAP because I need a phone.
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You won't see anyone post those steps because I've never seen anyone on here post they've had someone do this repair successfully. I've seen a number of people post here (particularly over the past 6 mths & particularly in some countries) that they've been offered this fix, but not a single one has posted & said they had it done & it was successful.
Why ? Because no tech with any competence would attempt this for a couple of reasons:-
1) It would be a pain in the arse to try. It would be very fiddly/take a long time. Small electronics these days is mostly 'modular' & replacement of tiny parts just doesn't happen anymore; 'boards' are replaced because it's quicker/easier for the tech, and cheaper for the customer. Even if these fixes were possible, you'd pay more than what a motherboard replacement would cost. And even then you're probably relying on someone with questionable technical ability telling you it is possible when people who really know what they're doing & talking about just wouldn't bother.
2) You have no way of knowing yourself whether you're being told the truth about this 'power IC' nonsense actually being the problem. What happens if you try this fix, only to find out the NAND is actually corrupted (which it is 99.999999999999999999999999% of the time; you are not the exception here); this means you pay for the fix which has no chance of working, and then you pay again for a motherboard replacement or new phone.
By all means sit in this thread for months & months with a non-working phone waiting for the information you're after to be posted, but it never will be for the reasons I've mentioned. If it was me, I'd want my phone working ASAP because I need a phone.
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Anyways.. I have given my phone for eMMc replacement let us see what it turns out to be. Thanks for your input Mistah. Will post back once I get my phone.
One more thing MistahBungle, as you have mentioned NAND corruption thats the exact issue I faced in Odin, does it means the flash chip is dying or as I read it its stuffed beyond recovery.. what exactly is NAND corruption and is there any solution for it apart from mobo change ?
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Anyways.. I have given my phone for eMMc replacement let us see what it turns out to be. Thanks for your input Mistah. Will post back once I get my phone.
One more thing MistahBungle, as you have mentioned NAND corruption thats the exact issue I faced in Odin, does it means the flash chip is dying or as I read it its stuffed beyond recovery.. what exactly is NAND corruption and is there any solution for it apart from mobo change ?
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It means the chip has been 'scrambled' due to a bad flash, which means nothing can be written to or read from the chip anymore, which is why your phone won't boot, the (for the sake of simplicity, the tech version is available with a Google or XDA search) 'pre-boot' stuff/OS/etc lives on it, without that = dead phone.
Only solution is to replace it, and as we've said, replacing just that chip isn't feasible, so the whole board is replaced.
I tried to unlock bootloader in my D620r running V10g EUR firmware. It is unbranded G2 Mini bought in polish electronic store.
I used this instruction: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g2-mini/development/bootloader-unlock-t2827748
After all described actions, I'm left with some nice black brick :/
It does not power on, enter to download mode, hard reset, not even battery charging during phone is off - no animated battery screen.
The only reaction is when the battery is removed from the phone - then plugging in the USB cable results in screen, that battery was removed and question mark. That's all.
Phone is not recognized as any USB device, like it was not connected at all.
I tried to revive it with this instruction: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582142 , but it didn't help. Linux does not see it - USB subsystem is not even triggered that something was plugged in.
Can anyone confirm this behaviour of D620r? What is your advice? Is any chance to revive my phone? Is flasing NAND at phone shack could help?
Try this (with G2 Mini files!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582142
Vagelis1608 said:
Try this (with G2 Mini files!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582142
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I already tried, but as I wrote phone is not seen in Linux. Devices sdX<numbers> are not populating, there is nothing in the system logs,
USB driver does not see phone - there is no USB communication at all No LG logo, screen still OFF.
The same thing that happen to you, has happen to me as well.
Check my signature. I don't think there is any other way:/
Vagelis1608 said:
The same thing that happen to you, has happen to me as well.
Check my signature. I don't think there is any other way:/
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Oh, I expected it. I'm about to send it to service like you. It's my first phone which I bricked that hard
Is your phone still at service now, or they repaired it for you some time ago? I think they will use some
kind of hardware box/flasher to flash firmware directly to EEPROM/NAND/NVM whatever sits there,
am I right?
twinsen.net said:
Oh, I expected it. I'm about to send it to service like you. It's my first phone which I bricked that hard
Is your phone still at service now, or they repaired it for you some time ago? I think they will use some
king of hardware box/flasher to flash firmware directly to EEPROM/NAND/NVM whatever sits there,
am I right?
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It's been 2 weeks now.
Personally, I believe that they will simply sent a new phone. (They won't have to pay an employee to fix it and they will use the working parts as replacement parts for other phones - with them, nothing goes to waste )
BTW, don't tell them you did it. Tell them you don't know what happen
BTW, does anyone knows why there is a possibility to hard brick LG's that easy? What is wrong with some software mess? Is this some LG's mechanism to prevent phone modification? Some claims that only motherboard exchange in some hard brick cases is needed. Why? Can't service specialist just flash directly to chip?
twinsen.net said:
BTW, does anyone knows why there is a possibility to hard brick LG's that easy? What is wrong with some software mess? Is this some LG's mechanism to prevent phone modification? Some claims that only motherboard exchange in some hard brick cases is needed. Why? Can't service specialist just flash directly to chip?
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If the aboot is broken, then the bootloader can get messed up.
You mean like JTAG? They don't seem to do that.
Sent from my GT-I5500 [CM11]
@twinsen.net I have d620r and I have used same instructions as you did. It worked like a charm.I now have unlocked bootloader, custom recovery and cm11. My phone is also locked on network.. Maybe you did something wrong?
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Personally, I believe that they will simply sent a new phone. (They won't have to pay an employee to fix it and they will use the working parts as replacement parts for other phones - with them, nothing goes to waste )
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2 more weeks later...
I was right. LG sent a new phone as "they couldn't fix it" (as per their words).
So, they kept the battery, screen and etc, aka the parts people will pay to fix