in light of this new information, if LG is doing this with their TV sets, I can only wonder how far they go with their phones ...making me rethink any LG mobile purchases.
http://arstechnica.com/security/201...extends-to-home-networks-second-blogger-says/
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in light of this new information, if LG is doing this with their TV sets, I can only wonder how far they go with their phones ...making me rethink any LG mobile purchases.
http://arstechnica.com/security/201...extends-to-home-networks-second-blogger-says/
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Yeah, same here. I'm running an AOSP based ROM now, so it's not going to send anything to LG. But I don't want to support a company with ethics like that.
I don't doubt for a second that LG do this on their phones, but I also don't doubt for a second that everyone else do too. These days tracking and spying seems like the norm.
Its not that did it on purpose, its more of a bug. And just becuase its happening to their smart tvs doesnt mean its happing to their phones, 2 different divisions of a company. Its not like the tv and mobile divisions have the same software engineers.
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What the Googs knows should worry you more...Think of all the programs they have going.
Keep your files clean in the future...
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Its not that did it on purpose, its more of a bug. And just becuase its happening to their smart tvs doesnt mean its happing to their phones, 2 different divisions of a company. Its not like the tv and mobile divisions have the same software engineers.
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Nice bug. I would love to get away from such bug filled company
Don't matter what we do cause as long as were connected to the net, somebody is watching. U can run, but u can't hide! LOL
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Its not that did it on purpose, its more of a bug. And just becuase its happening to their smart tvs doesnt mean its happing to their phones, 2 different divisions of a company. Its not like the tv and mobile divisions have the same software engineers.
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Exactly. I really don't see what the huge problem is. They are basically putting cookies on your TV, but obviously, in this case, the information was being sent to LG's servers to be compiled. Everyone does it, hell XDA shows me ads for something on Amazon I just looked up minutes ago.
I understand, that snooping on your network is a bit much just to reccomend shows and choose advertisements, but it's not like you can't stop it. Simply put your TV on your guest network. Boom. Done. No more access to other devices on your network.
It's not like other manufacturers aren't doing similar. Samsung TVs mine a ton of data. In addition, the models with cameras, can actually watch you. In some instances, it will be used to make sure you don't have more than the allowed amount of people watching an on demand event or streaming rental, but it can also be used to count people in the room, whether they're male or female, and whether or not they are being engaged by what's on the screen be it ads or media. This hasn't stopped them from being the number 1 TV manufacturer.
As for phones, Apple and Samsung have both been caught logging locations and taking pictures of it's users and that hasn't stopped them from being the number 1 and 2 smartphone manufacturers. On top of that, they aren't the only one's digging through your phone for data.
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In some instances, it will be used to make sure you don't have more than the allowed amount of people watching an on demand event or streaming rental, but it can also be used to count people in the room, whether they're male or female, and whether or not they are being engaged by what's on the screen be it ads or media.
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That has not happened till now. Stop talkig out of your @ss.
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That has not happened till now. Stop talkig out of your @ss.
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Um, no. The ability has existed on the last 2 model runs, it just wasn't implemented, just tested. It was due to studios wanting to make sure that people weren't having a too many people watching at one time. It's a form of copyright protection. You can watch a movie at home with a bunch of friends no problem, but streaming a movie for say your church, is a big no-no. At that point they want you to pay them like a theater would. Using it for advertisements is fairly new and that didn't really ruffle too many feathers until Microsoft's kinect. The new kinect is making waves again because it can even measure your heartbeat. Businesses would love to find out what kind of ads get your heart racing.
It is not a bug. Have you guys read the article? LG even confirms that it did that intentionally to better viewing experiences and enhance advertisement viewing. The 2nd part about it trolling your network and pulling information from everything it finds, and sending it off to LG, was supposed to be from an unfinished feature that was never implemented. Funny how they made sure it grabbed your information and successfully transmitted it back to their servers.
They are going to get in a LOT of trouble for this. I can honestly see them getting heavily sued. Not only were they stealing personal information without consent but also using up your personal bandwidth and invading your private viewing habits.
My dad is one that I'm sure will be severely affected. He is getting older and growing intensely paranoid to do anything. He used to work for HP and now is petrified to go out doors half the time. He disables his WiFi just because he fears someone hacking his network. Unfortunately he just bought a new Smart LG TV like last year. Now he's going to be afraid to watch the damn TV.
Yea you can say, well just turn off the WiFi or unplug the Ethernet... but someone who is paranoid like him doesn't think like that. His response will be, well they'll just code it to automatically turn WiFi on in the middle of the night for 30 minutes or whatever, then turn it back off when its done scouring his files.
It seems trivial to most people but this seriously effects some. The fact that HP SPECIFICALLY coded these things to do these tasks is appalling. This is NOT a bug. When you enable the Privacy Settings, all it does it flag the information as "privacy enabled" yet still sends it.
Very scary stuff. LG stole your information and sold it to the highest bidder. This will and should be a lawsuit. Companies shouldn't be allowed to profit from unwilling customers, especially when they specifically opted out. The fact that it also scans your internal network is also a HUGE compromise, both security and privacy.
Horrible.
If you live in the states I do not understand why complain. Your government has been spying on you guys since day 1 you were born. There is no more privacy anywhere you go in the world now. Unless you live in one of those third world countries, but in that case you would not have smart tv because there would be no wifi and stuff.
The government has a track on everyone. The only way is to stop using phones, computers, tablets, anything that has access to location and internet. Anything that accesses an IP address...no way to hide from them. Like it or not, that's the world we live in.
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Uh boys.
This started popping up on my phone. Look at the screenshot icon. Any idea what this icon is on my G2.
It pops up like ever 20 seconds and flashes.
I just noticed it. Anyone else see it? I have to take a screen recording video and snip pics to catch it.
It's the door with the eye thing.
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Maybe this?
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Uh boys.
This started popping up on my phone. Look at the screenshot icon. Any idea what this icon is on my G2.
It pops up like ever 20 seconds and flashes.
I just noticed it. Anyone else see it? I have to take a screen recording video and snip pics to catch it.
It's the door with the eye thing.
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It's a built in spy software!
Seriously though, it's a gesture feature that you selected in settings. It detects your eyes and prevents the screen from turning off just before your screen time out.
Yea that's what it is. On the Verizon model, we have the traditional vertical settings menu and it doesn't have pictures.
I was testing the settings apk from the LG Flex and must've turned it on accidentally.
It was really starting to freak me out. That option doesn't work So well. It still times out.
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Per phones, have a look at LG MLT. It isn't even new, been years in the making. Almost every manufacturer has this type of software, hell, even carriers in some instances... cough... carrier iq.
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might get lucky with a unloaked leak
What leak? Where? Sniper?
Anyone look at it yet
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where's the leak?
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where's the leak?
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In the development section.
we sound like a bunch of crack fiends lookin for a rock. lol
he did say new leak... the ones in development are a few days old and oldish news.
pretty sure its the international version. its on 911sniper
yea, just saw it now. must have posted right as i left development section.
is it "loaked" ?
lol
omg please say it isnt
Even if/when we get an unlocked leak (which I am absolutely confidant we will get an "accidental" leak top shut us up) there is a good chance that these leaks will start drying up. By time the Evo4D5G comes out next year we won't even expect a phone to not be crypto-signed.
If they don't do this 'officially', and out loud in public then we have absolutely no guarantees that they ever will...and probably will not.
Unfortunately doing it out loud and in public is the _last_ thing they want to do. They want to bend to our demands even less than they want to lock damned phones. I'm pretty convinced that this is due to a back-room deal to get things like Netflix and GoogleMovies and Blockbuster approved by the MPAAs of the world.
...I'm still not sure--aside from tether--what locking up a phone will actually prevent that will save or make them money besides extending the useful life of the devices......but the thing is that those of us who know how to do these things in the first place are also the early-adopter crowd who will pay top price and wait in line at 4am to get a device that doesn't have all the bugs shaken out of it yet.....My mom, my brother, most people I work with...most people on the planet--who do not know nor care about rooting and custom roms--are the ones who will keep these phones as long as possible anyway...with or without upgrading the rom...if they could just click-n-upgrade to CM7 or whatever....well, that'd be a different story...they wouldn't upgrade till the phone caught fire....but these people wouldn't know or care to learn how to do this anyway....
...so they lock *US* out of the phone, we don't buy them....they lose those sales...or they don't lock us out, we buy them, root them, upgrade them, and then line up to be the first to buy the next device....win win, right? I just don't get it....are they scared of '1 click upgrades' being developed for everyone to use? I doubt that....there are plenty of 1-click-root procedures and ROManager anuyway....that's 80% of the way there....and nobody does that anyway...I just don't get it, wtf are they locking out (or in)??? I don't see how this benefits anyone....is it only about tether? cuz I could just just as much data listening to pandora all month as I could downloading a movie tethered to my tablet or whatever....
I just don't get it.
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Even if/when we get an unlocked leak (which I am absolutely confidant we will get an "accidental" leak top shut us up) there is a good chance that these leaks will start drying up. By time the Evo4D5G comes out next year we won't even expect a phone to not be crypto-signed.
If they don't do this 'officially', and out loud in public then we have absolutely no guarantees that they ever will...and probably will not.
Unfortunately doing it out loud and in public is the _last_ thing they want to do. They want to bend to our demands even less than they want to lock damned phones. I'm pretty convinced that this is due to a back-room deal to get things like Netflix and GoogleMovies and Blockbuster approved by the MPAAs of the world.
...I'm still not sure--aside from tether--what locking up a phone will actually prevent that will save or make them money besides extending the useful life of the devices......but the thing is that those of us who know how to do these things in the first place are also the early-adopter crowd who will pay top price and wait in line at 4am to get a device that doesn't have all the bugs shaken out of it yet.....My mom, my brother, most people I work with...most people on the planet--who do not know nor care about rooting and custom roms--are the ones who will keep these phones as long as possible anyway...with or without upgrading the rom...if they could just click-n-upgrade to CM7 or whatever....well, that'd be a different story...they wouldn't upgrade till the phone caught fire....but these people wouldn't know or care to learn how to do this anyway....
...so they lock *US* out of the phone, we don't buy them....they lose those sales...or they don't lock us out, we buy them, root them, upgrade them, and then line up to be the first to buy the next device....win win, right? I just don't get it....are they scared of '1 click upgrades' being developed for everyone to use? I doubt that....there are plenty of 1-click-root procedures and ROManager anuyway....that's 80% of the way there....and nobody does that anyway...I just don't get it, wtf are they locking out (or in)??? I don't see how this benefits anyone....is it only about tether? cuz I could just just as much data listening to pandora all month as I could downloading a movie tethered to my tablet or whatever....
I just don't get it.
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I think you hit on a couple points here, but really I think what happened has to do with HTC Watch (their own mobile movie rental service) and the contracts they're signing with studios to provide more on-demand content.
Movie/Music/Game studios probably won't allow anyone to distribute their copy-written content without extreme steps to assure them that the manufacturer is doing everything they can to avoid piracy/illegal downloading &/or access.
I'm willing to bet that bootloader and partition encryption is something they've gone the length of assuring these companies so to be able to provide on-demand content as a revenue generating service. If it's in contracts, then we're screwed.
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I think you hit on a couple points here, but really I think what happened has to do with HTC Watch (their own mobile movie rental service) and the contracts they're signing with studios to provide more on-demand content.
Movie/Music/Game studios probably won't allow anyone to distribute their copy-written content without extreme steps to assure them that the manufacturer is doing everything they can to avoid piracy/illegal downloading &/or access.
I'm willing to bet that bootloader and partition encryption is something they've gone the length of assuring these companies so to be able to provide on-demand content as a revenue generating service. If it's in contracts, then we're screwed.
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couldn't we just use the mirroring hdmi thing to a tv and then from there use a recorder to copy the movie over. I mean i am just wondering if that's possible and if it is it just means that no matter what you try to do from people stealing content, people will just figure out a way to do it.
It's a streaming service.
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It's a streaming service.
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i uderstand that's its streaming but if we streamed it from the phone to th tv which had a recorder hooked up to it couldn't we just copy that stream?
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i uderstand that's its streaming but if we streamed it from the phone to th tv which had a recorder hooked up to it couldn't we just copy that stream?
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I'm willing to bet the streaming service won't support HDMI mirroring
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i uderstand that's its streaming but if we streamed it from the phone to th tv which had a recorder hooked up to it couldn't we just copy that stream?
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Have you not heard oh HDCP?
The Evo will go blank if you try to hook it up to a receiver and not direct to tv. I ment future phones.
Comcast cable already does this with the new boxes.
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I'm willing to bet the streaming service won't support HDMI mirroring
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I agree but at the same time that would make it kind of pointless for me. Honestly, I could never see myself sitting down for an entire movie on my phone. Hopefully that is not the case.
that would be dumb if it didn't. I can't stand watching a movie on my phone let alone pay for it just to be seen on a 4 inch screen
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I think you hit on a couple points here, but really I think what happened has to do with HTC Watch (their own mobile movie rental service) and the contracts they're signing with studios to provide more on-demand content.
Movie/Music/Game studios probably won't allow anyone to distribute their copy-written content without extreme steps to assure them that the manufacturer is doing everything they can to avoid piracy/illegal downloading &/or access.
I'm willing to bet that bootloader and partition encryption is something they've gone the length of assuring these companies so to be able to provide on-demand content as a revenue generating service. If it's in contracts, then we're screwed.
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I hadn't even heard of HTC Watch up until this post. I'm absolutely convinced 100% that this is the smoking gun in the matter of "why?"
Now, if that is the case they will NEVER be able to officially unlock these phones without violating these contracts. We can only hope for leaks...and to be honest, I've never seen so much internal development software leaked by any other company in my life so reliably. Sure, there have been companies with bigger leaks or more leaks but never with such reliability....OTA's before they go OTA, eng h-boots, test versions, etc etc etc, it is absolutely ludicrous. I have a hard time thinking that it is entirely accidental or just one rogue guy who hasn't been identified and fired....repeatedly.
But will the ferocity of these contracts undermine even these leaks?
Why don't they just super-encrypt a 'trusted pipeline' in the phone once you unlock the phone you permanently disable the ability of that pipeline to ever operate ever again? I'm all for that. Pump your locked-down content through that pipeline...I don't care if I never open that pipe up ever again.
HTC's gotta come up with something or this is it for all of us I'm sure. I checked out the NexusS4G...nice phone, feels cheap but then again maybe I'm just used to lugging around this monster sized and weighted Evo. Screen looked nice, bone-stock android was a pleasure to see. Though I'll wait for the Nexus3, or whatever they call it. Sure to be dual core by then....
I guess I'll just get Nexus' for life...this is all bull**** and totally not worth the worry now that I really look at it. They don't want customers 'like us' apparently, Samsung/Google do. 3D is a gimmick anyway. Just give me dual cores and all of the standard features with a 4 point something screen. After the 30fps debacle last year I swore that I wouldn't buy an HTC again...but forgot all about their horrible attitude cuz it got fixed here and they used the code in an OTA. That even gave me faith in them...like the Open Source system is working exactly as intended...but....take and take and take and never give back.....HTC? Never again.
OK..... As some of you know I own a deli/restaurant. We were broken into recently (no I don't have a security system and yes I'm a dope), luckily they only got us for $200-$300. I understand all of the obvious options we have for a system and I will be putting those in place asap.
Here's the thing.... there was no sign of forced entry. I have business partners (wasn't them) and 2 employees with keys (really don't think it was them) but possibly someone that knows any of the above got their key. None of that matters (my tiny brain will investigate that)....
Is there a security system or cams that could be linked to any of my android phones or tablets? If anyone knows of a system anything close to what I'm talking about, that would be really cool.
I'll be meeting with Time Warner and my wife just mentioned adt about a system but..... if I could any how have cams going to my tablets or phones that would be even more helpful, if it was an inside job.... and I hardly EVER think that way but there was no sign of forced entry. Also it happened the day of the Hurricane so the cops said anything outside with finger prints wouldn't show a thing.
Just saw something similar on the Nook Color forum and was wondering why I didn't ask this question to you guys the day it happened.
Money is somewhat of an option (as it is to most people) but having something feeding to my android devices would be priceless.
If this is an obvious answer please let this thread sink but if there is a way to have security running to my phones or tablets please speak up.
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Chef
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Costco has an 8 camera dvr system for~ $300. Web accessible...I am getting one for my home.
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There are plenty of systems that will link to your devices, aft included. I will go find some for you
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Everfocus brand dvr systems have a free app called mobile focus, links in to dvr for realtime, also supports ptz over WiFi, 3g, or 4G... I've installed tons of them
http://www.everfocus.com/product.cfm?productid=165
And u can use any camera that is bnc or composite with bnc converters
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Wow guys! Thank you for the quick informative responses. This is a serious matter to me and really means a lot.
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bigsc said:
There are plenty of systems that will link to your devices, aft included. I will go find some for you
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Thanks!
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phreezex said:
Everfocus brand dvr systems have a free app called mobile focus, links in to dvr for realtime, also supports ptz over WiFi, 3g, or 4G... I've installed tons of them
http://www.everfocus.com/product.cfm?productid=165
And u can use any camera that is bnc or composite with bnc converters
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Thanks!
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Costco has an 8 camera dvr system for~ $300. Web accessible...I am getting one for my home.
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Thanks!
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Thanks to everyone else that posts. Lol
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f#cken BUMS !!!
any suggestions for those that want the wireless route of camera? where I want to mount mine I wont have any existing cabeling for video and even getting power to it is gonna be tricky.
Really want remote viewing control on phone, recording dvr either onsite or in the cloud. most seem to be hardline cameras still except for the IP cameras which dont work with most typical dvr's ive seen at first glance. I know they make transmitters to convert the wired camera to wireless but thats adds a ton of clutter too as ones ive seen are bulky.
Try logitech alert 750e on Google.
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Go to android market and download alarm. Com, but you need to have vivet alarm system. I have them and with this app I can see my front of house with the cam I have placed inside the bird house. Lol
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I can also monitor who goes in and out the front door or and window that is opened, I can adjust my ac system and lock or unlock the from door. Lol
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I hate geovision dvr cards, but they have an android app finally. Most systems can be viewed from a web browser, but you'll want to make sure that there is an app for them as it makes viewing the video remotely much easier.
If you don't want to worry about finding an app for a specific brand go with wireless cameras. Don't get the kind that need a base unit. Get some that can be linked to a wireless router. You can then setup an existing computer to record the video or get a new computer dedicated for just this. Since each camera uses its own up address you can use one of the many ip camera apps in the market.
If you need help with anything send me a pm. I do camera installs and repair as a side job.
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I hate geovision dvr cards, but they have an android app finally. Most systems can be viewed from a web browser, but you'll want to make sure that there is an app for them as it makes viewing the video remotely much easier.
If you don't want to worry about finding an app for a specific brand go with wireless cameras. Don't get the kind that need a base unit. Get some that can be linked to a wireless router. You can then setup an existing computer to record the video or get a new computer dedicated for just this. Since each camera uses its own up address you can use one of the many ip camera apps in the market.
If you need help with anything send me a pm. I do camera installs and repair as a side job.
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Let me talk to my business partners and wife tonight or tomorrow morning and I'll shoot you a pm after I talk to them. This seems to be a fairly cheap option w/out monthly fees or a base. I also have a sneaky suspicion that maybe someone is going in after we close and eating or feeding their friends and family like kings.
I work 7 days a week and close the business quite a few of the days. Sometimes I get a gut feeling that things weren't the wah they were when I left the night before. Soooo..... If I could be watching my business at night while yucking it up on xda, that's a win/win.
WINNING!
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I don't have any information for you, but just want to show my sympathy toward your situation. It would be terrible if someone you trusted with the keys was doing it or even giving the key to their friends to do it. I am a Union Committeeman at the shop I work at and I just had to sit in with a maintenance man of ours while he got fired for stealing from the company. He was using his key to come in after hours and stealing copper wire and brass fittings and taking them to the scrap yard for money. The Plant manager was suspicious that it was an inside job and took pictures of the cars and people he suspected and took them down to the local scrap yard. They identified the guy and his car and even gave him a copy of the invoice he signed himself(dumbass). He lost a decent job over $76. There was nothing the Union could do to fight it because he was basically caught red handed. The Plant Manager gave him the option to either resign his position on the spot, or he could try to fight it and he would get the cops involved. He admitted doing it and resigned. Anyway, I hope you can catch whoever is doing it. I hope it's not the people you have trusted with keys, but it just sounds strange to me that there are no signs of forced entry. It may cost you now to install a camera system, but will save you $ in the long run. Good Luck bro.
http://www.cctvcamerapros.com/Internet-Video-Surveillance-DVR-s/424.htm
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I don't have any information for you, but just want to show my sympathy toward your situation. It would be terrible if someone you trusted with the keys was doing it or even giving the key to their friends to do it. I am a Union Committeeman at the shop I work at and I just had to sit in with a maintenance man of ours while he got fired for stealing from the company. He was using his key to come in after hours and stealing copper wire and brass fittings and taking them to the scrap yard for money. The Plant manager was suspicious that it was an inside job and took pictures of the cars and people he suspected and took them down to the local scrap yard. They identified the guy and his car and even gave him a copy of the invoice he signed himself(dumbass). He lost a decent job over $76. There was nothing the Union could do to fight it because he was basically caught red handed. The Plant Manager gave him the option to either resign his position on the spot, or he could try to fight it and he would get the cops involved. He admitted doing it and resigned. Anyway, I hope you can catch whoever is doing it. I hope it's not the people you have trusted with keys, but it just sounds strange to me that there are no signs of forced entry. It may cost you now to install a camera system, but will save you $ in the long run. Good Luck bro.
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Thanks! I tried doing a little detective work myself but lead me nowhere. They got me for the $100 bucks I leave in the till everynight to start the next day with and got my change box (roughly $200) where I keep all my rolled quarters, dimes etc to make change for the register ( this is where my detective work came in) . I went to a local change for dollars machine vendor but so many people use those daily (including myself when our home change cup gets full) that it would be impossible. I went to local stores and told them to keep an eye on anyone paying with rolled change. That's about the extent of my detective abilities. If I knew any crack dealers they would be the first ones I would ask if anyone's has been buying crack with rolled quarters (haha) .
As for food possibly missing at night is weighing heavy on my mind due to the whole trust issue when you hand a key to your business to someone you trust. I really don't think its anyone with the keys but maybe someone they know grabbing the key while they're sleeping or whatever.
I'll get the bastard whoever it is.
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Thanks for the link!
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I'm looking for an app I can install on my wife's phone that is hidden so that I can see where she is or has been via cell towers or gps. Doesn't need to be real time but I need to know if she has been where I think she has been. She is pretty dumb when it comes to her phone but has never had gps enabled and would probably notice the enabled icon. I'm pretty confident she is cheating on me and just need to know for sure before I confront her. Is there such an app?
I don't need a lot of features. Basically location history. Some place called spectorsoft has something but it is $70. ANy freebies out there?
Thanks!!
Just go to Google maps and sign her up on Latitude. Latitude will tell you where she was and is. Then after that, install Dexrex on her phone and you can see any, and all, texts she sends and receives. The best part is that it's all free. Then you can use Overview (which used to be free) to do similar things. Also, if you want to catch her on your PC, just install a keylogger.
Does she have Android smartphone? If she have, you can find such apps on Market. I needed that type of app before but unfortunately, we haven't got android on all device. Google Latitude is good too.
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I don't condone your method.... But, I know where you are coming from.
Tasker is an amazing app. Not any type of tracking system specifically. But you can create a set of profiles and tasks where you could do something like send a txt to her. Something like "I love you." Or "how are you" or something inconspicuous. You can then program it to, upon recieving said message, turn on GPS for 1min, get a lock on her location and txt you back her location and then shut off GPS. You can also make it so if she looks back into her chat log. It won't show that her phone automatically sent that txt with her where a bouts.
I have something similar in case my phone is ever lost/stolen. Except my setup will also lock the phone, flash the leds, the camera flash, and make a loud noise.
Or you could just sit her down and talk about it....she will appreciate you more, because if she finds the apps you install.....theirs nothing worse than denying it was you who installed them (lying to her) when you have no proof she is lying to you. Your situation is nothing that can't be sorted out by talking about it. Have you got concrete evidence she's playing away? If you don't trust her....I'd learn to and quick because lack of trust is a killer for all relationships. Don't snoop around fishing dude....talk to her!
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Or you could just sit her down and talk about it....she will appreciate you more, because if she finds the apps you install.....theirs nothing worse than denying it was you who installed them (lying to her) when you have no proof she is lying to you. Your situation is nothing that can't be sorted out by talking about it. Have you got concrete evidence she's playing away? If you don't trust her....I'd learn to and quick because lack of trust is a killer for all relationships. Don't snoop around fishing dude....talk to her!
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I have teenagers, so I definitely know where your coming from. My solution is an annual subscription (I think $12 per year, no more than $19.99) is "WaveSecure" by McAfee. Which I do admit if I EVER lost my phone, it is a blessing to have! I can go to a certain locked website by McAfee and not only be able to see where my phone is (without the user knowing) but I can lock it and send a alarm with a custom message. I can even pull pics and content from it. And you can't get into it or uninstall it once its set up on phone without a 6 digit password. Its mainly used if you have you phone stolen. It even notifies me if the SIM card is removed!
Latitude also works, but you have to configure her phone, and (like my teenagers) will eventually know how to turn it off.
Damn kids get smart like that.
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I have teenagers, so I definitely know where your coming from. My solution is an annual subscription (I think $12 per year, no more than $19.99) is "WaveSecure" by McAfee. Which I do admit if I EVER lost my phone, it is a blessing to have! I can go to a certain locked website by McAfee and not only be able to see where my phone is (without the user knowing) but I can lock it and send a alarm with a custom message. I can even pull pics and content from it. And you can't get into it or uninstall it once its set up on phone without a 6 digit password. Its mainly used if you have you phone stolen. It even notifies me if the SIM card is removed!
Latitude also works, but you have to configure her phone, and (like my teenagers) will eventually know how to turn it off.
Damn kids get smart like that.
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Oh yeah! I forgot about that one. I think Lookout (free) can do the same. Well, it can give you the location of the device, but it can't take pictures like WaveSecure.
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I don't condone your method.... But, I know where you are coming from.
Tasker is an amazing app. Not any type of tracking system specifically. But you can create a set of profiles and tasks where you could do something like send a txt to her. Something like "I love you." Or "how are you" or something inconspicuous. You can then program it to, upon recieving said message, turn on GPS for 1min, get a lock on her location and txt you back her location and then shut off GPS. You can also make it so if she looks back into her chat log. It won't show that her phone automatically sent that txt with her where a bouts.
I have something similar in case my phone is ever lost/stolen. Except my setup will also lock the phone, flash the leds, the camera flash, and make a loud noise.
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+1 for a noob friendly guide!
Cerberus from the market. Once installed and configured, can be set to be invisible in the app drawer.
You can also record audio and take pictures remotely with it! Be sure to silence the camera first though!
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I would check your local laws before doing this. I believe it is illegal. I believe there was a recent case where a husband did something similar and was held on wiretapping charges. I do believe it was key logging and not cell phone tracking.
But I hope she is not cheating on you. That is crappy to go through.
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You could just chip her... You take her to the vet and for about £20 they put a microchip in her neck and then you can tell where she's been, it's not painful, I did it to my *****.
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You could just chip her... You take her to the vet and for about £20 they put a microchip in her neck and then you can tell where she's been, it's not painful, I did it to my *****.
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You got diet pepsi to come out of my nose with this one lmao had to clean my Photon screen lol
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install a launcher that allows hiding of apps in the app drawer to further safe guard.
Theft aware... 7 day trial, hidden, and if she is rooted you can hide the gps icon. Location is sent via hidden sms and you can get calls and texts forwarded to your phone.
It's not good to spy on people, especially your wife. But hey, it's your choice. Hopefully she isn't having an affair so best of luck.
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Amen brother!
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Or you could just sit her down and talk about it....she will appreciate you more, because if she finds the apps you install.....theirs nothing worse than denying it was you who installed them (lying to her) when you have no proof she is lying to you. Your situation is nothing that can't be sorted out by talking about it. Have you got concrete evidence she's playing away? If you don't trust her....I'd learn to and quick because lack of trust is a killer for all relationships. Don't snoop around fishing dude....talk to her!
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If you don't want your wife anymore, post a picture of her here. If she's not too shabby, I'll buy her off you for $5. If she looks like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle, I'll give you $2. Either way, she's better off without you.
...if you do want her, what the hell are you doing thinking this crap, let alone posting it in a public forum? You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.
I suggest you seek some professional help. You have trust issues... which makes you untrustable.
I also hope you don't have kids. You are no role model.
You are pathetic. Same goes for everyone in this thread encouraging him. All of you... pathetic.
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Or you could just sit her down and talk about it....she will appreciate you more, because if she finds the apps you install.....theirs nothing worse than denying it was you who installed them (lying to her) when you have no proof she is lying to you. Your situation is nothing that can't be sorted out by talking about it. Have you got concrete evidence she's playing away? If you don't trust her....I'd learn to and quick because lack of trust is a killer for all relationships. Don't snoop around fishing dude....talk to her!
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Sometimes I get mad at how the tech community views women. Then I read posts like this. Thank you.
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@OP
If you don't want your wife anymore, post a picture of her here. If she's not too shabby, I'll buy her off you for $5. If she looks like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle, I'll give you $2. Either way, she's better off without you.
...if you do want her, what the hell are you doing thinking this crap, let alone posting it in a public forum? You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.
I suggest you seek some professional help. You have trust issues... which makes you untrustable.
I also hope you don't have kids. You are no role model.
You are pathetic. Same goes for everyone in this thread encouraging him. All of you... pathetic.
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You took the words right out my mouth mate.
Grow a set of stones, act like a man and just talk to her.
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Sometimes I get mad at how the tech community views women. Then I read posts like this. Thank you.
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Exactly, I'm sure he would be delighted if someone was doing this to his daughter.
First... let's start with a a few definitions.
com·put·er - n.
1. An electronic device for storing and processing data, typically in binary form, according to instructions given to it in a variable program.
2. Also called processor. an electronic device designed to accept data, perform prescribed mathematical and logical operations at high speed, and display the results of these operations.
3. A device that computes, especially a programmable electronic machine that performs high-speed mathematical or logical operations or that assembles, stores, correlates, or otherwise processes information.
tel·e·phone - n.
1. An instrument that converts voice and other sound signals into a form that can be transmitted to remote locations and that receives and reconverts waves into sound signals.
SO... I was browsing around XDA, and I couldn't help but notice all of talk we have accumulated over this whole HBoot 1.5 deal, not have the NAND unlocked, crummy source code releases from phone companies, sprint and many other phone companies monitoring every little thing we do, people's contracts being terminated for "accessing torents".... a whole laundry list of problems people are having with various aspects of owning their "phone" and not having freedom to truly do whatever they want with it.
I started pondering the idea that cell phones, tablets, the whole scene, are slowly starting to replace the use of a personal lap top or desk top. Many people, such as myself, use their "phone" as a very handy mobile business tool - much like you would a computer - checking/sending emails, downloading music, managing bank accounts, keeping up with the latest news on facebook, recording/sharing/editing high quality media, playing games, programming and testing software, composing and looking at word, excel, powerpoint, adobe... just to name a few... documents. Oh, and making phone calls.
Back to the "thought" that came to mind as I was contemplating this, it occurred to me that my phone, is becoming much less of a phone to me, and more like a computer, and just like my computer it is something I have paid and continually pay good money for...
My question, then, is would the free world (society) ever tolerate the limitations, and obnoxious "control" over their personal computers that we are all rolling over on our backs and accepting from phone companies? Could this idea that phones are becoming, and ARE, more a computer than a phone in the year 2012 and furthermore at what point will we stop accepting this type of tyranny from the dealers of these devices? Could this not be comparative to best buy selling you a laptop, then the cable company telling you exactly what you are and aren't allowed to do with said laptop, simply because they are providing you the PAID FOR service of their internet? Where and when are we going to draw the line with this type of double standard and make a valiant effort to bring this to the attention of people who are walking in blindness, with their little computers in their pockets, with their big phone company telling them exactly what they can and cannot do with their phone? If I want to buy a lap top, then turn around and rebuild it to my liking, knowing the warranty may be void if something goes wrong, and maybe over something as simple as not liking the color of the menu screen, do I not have that ability? Likewise, if I pay hundreds of dollars for a portable computer, which fits conveniently in my pocket, and I decide I want to tear apart the software simply to rebuild it or improve on things that do not fit to my needs EXACTLY, am I not allowed to do this simply because I am paying for internet and radio reception and the company selling me such service says "no, that is not allowed" because they say so? If this type of control or dictatorship was ever forced upon our personal computers, there would be riots on the doorsteps of the people selling us the computers and internet service. Why then do we tolerate this bull**** with something cell phone companies call a "phone" but something we all know is just as useful, and extremely more convenient than, a lap top.
Why is there no freedom to do whatever we please with our pocket sized computers? Why do cell carriers tell us what we can and cannot do with the devices they sell us, then make us pay for continually? The average person will spend approximately $1,800 dollars on "cell phone" services over the course of a contract. By the time that contract is up, their hardware is outdated, and needs replacing to keep up with the software and hardware advancement in the mobile electronic world. Does that wreak of computer or phone to you? My parents have had the same house phone in their living room for the past 10 years, and it does exactly what it was always designed to do, and does not need "upgrading". Why are "cell phones" being called cell phones by Sprint, Verizon, T Mobile, and many other companies that sell these devices by the millions when they are hardly phones at all? If my laptop has an application on it, which it does - skype, that is designed to simply make a phone call every now and then among the hundred of other things I use it for, does that mean I should call my lap top a cell phone? Simply because I can talk to cell phones from it? Or is it a computer, because it's primary function is to compute data that I store on it, and read that data back to me in millions of different ways and interact with me based on what data I decide to access/store in it? "Cell phones" are not cell phones, and why are we allowing people to tell us otherwise, simply so they can dictate to us what we do with them? I think it is time we start bringing this to people's attention. I think it is time to start raising this question to "cell phone" companies and manufacturers of these expensive devices, then turn around and tell us what we can and cannot do with our "cell phone." I say we start giving a big fat middle finger to this injustice and go on the offense here about this huge issue. I don't want your spyware bull **** on my computer, I don't want to be told what websites I am allowed to visit/not visit, I don't want you locking me out of my computer's OS, I don't want you collecting random statistical data about what apps I use, I don't want you invading my privacy. I just want to buy my damn computer, pay for your radio service like I do with my laptop and comcast, and not have any other relationship with you other than a monthly payment. I am one of those who enjoys freedom. And if I want to pick apart the software that you pre-loaded into my device, for learning experience, for ****s and giggles, for the pure sake of not being bored, give me the freedom to do it ENTIRELY... Not in some half ass way.
Our "phones" are not phones. Make this known the next time a "phone" company calls you with their ridiculous "rate your experience at our store" phone calls. In fact, request that they do call. Write a letter. Hell, copy and paste this entire rant and email it to [email protected]... whatever the hell you do, stop letting people walk all over you by feeding you lies about what that device in your hand truly is, which you are reading this post from.
Be vocal, and be defiant with this major invasion of privacy and freedom. It will turn heads and cause people to question the powers that be. Does ANYBODY have a right to tell me what I do with MY computer? Hell no they don't.
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You sir, a a born philosopher.
Nicely said.
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PS. The first one to flame should get banned from XDA! and their phone removed by the FBI...
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Meh, its still just a phone, the "phone" has just evolved. All technology has a 2 year cycle. And as long as you have to go through a carrier, they will be able to tell you what you can and cannot do.
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Cool Story Bro. Now seriously, you may have a point there athough if this did happen we would probably end up laying full price for our phones. Where do you ever see a desktop with 250 instant savings if you setup Verizon home and phone service in your area. It's an iffy situation. Once we call these "phones" computers they will end up being treated as such. I can't imagine how much the cost of an app would go up just because my phone is no longer considered a mobile platform.
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The phone is simply no longer a phone. With the recent software that allows us to run x86 OS's in your hand with nothing more than a disk image and a text edit, the term "PC in your hand" is indeed a reality. As this wonderful visionary has so stated in so many words, where does the line that separates computer and phone begin and end. And the simple answer is, it doesn't begin or end because it doesn't exist.
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ha, if you think you aren't paying full price for your phone through the back door (your monthly bill) you are fooling yourself. they compensate themselves greatly with that little rebate you "save"
my point is simply that our "phones" are not phones anymore. they are computers. i have a phone, at my house, and it makes phone calls. what it doesn't do is keep me logged into skype, facebook, twitter, my email accounts, my netflix account, my pandora account, my bank account, or record pictures, videos, then allow me to do much of that stuff at the same time and in a timely manner.... much like my lap top does.
i was on a little bit of a stick it to the man kick last night i'll admit...lol... but really ask yourselves, "is he right here?" i think so. it would not be a stretch at all to say our personal mobile computers are being monopolized and freedoms are being infringed upon simply because we have been told to call these mobile computers "phones"...
have they evolved from what they were? certainly. i remember when my cell phone was simply a cell phone. the reality is that i use my phone for things i used to use my computer for.... as somebody said before, that line between phone and computer has been quickly fading and is nearly gone, so why treat our phones any different than we would a computer? and why shouldn't we expect nothing less than complete and utter personal privacy for these devices? and just as you buy a desktop or lap top and have entire administrative control over it, why is this not being allowed on these ones that are hand held? it is a sick double standard that is there to simply control what you do with the device. the fact is, people would be in an uproar if companies such as dell, or gateway, or apple, or comcast, etc treated you and your desk top the way you are being treated with your "cell phone"
Dude, you're absolutely right! If anyone disagrees, its because they have been brain washed for so long they don't know any better. Come to think of it, I hardly use my "phone" to make phone calls. The sad reality, though, is that I don't see change any time soon. We have given the carriers too much power and, just like government, they never give that power back.
But I mean, this if what the man is good at, like for real. They sell us on an idea, put the product in our hand, say "do anything you can imagine with it" and out in the fine print "but only do what we allow you to imagine, nothing more!" For example, just because it plugs in, in a sense anyway. I have a NextBook Premium 7 tablet. I have also started developing roms. The problem my partners and I ran into was the limitation of space on the thing (210 mb after root, 160 mb before root), after converting the file system from the manufacturer version to a version that the typical phone runs (ext3) and editing the parameters, the thing has a gigabyte of free space. To plug this into the topic at hand, what the electronic market does by limiting the possibilities of what our devices can do is keep money in their pockets, because they (for example) release a 3vo with a 1 gHz processor, the release a sensation with a 1.2 GHz, putting emphasis on the ".2" for $100 more. Then come back and sound the release of a quad core 1.5 GHz phone, again putting emphasis on the ".5" and are going to throw ANOTHER $100 on to of the sensations price tag after rebate. When in fact, the 3vo can be over clocked to 1.5 and be stable, the sensation can hit that 1.8 with its eyes closed, and I'm quite sure a quad core can push 2.0 GHz plus on a bad day. The average consumer doesn't know this though, and the average consumer happens to be pretty much 95% of society with an Android phone smartphone, and unfortunately the consumer market plays on this lack of knowledge.
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This should at the very least concern some of you. The way the technological world is headed, lap top and desk top computers could very well be obsolete in a few years. Entirely obsolete. Your “phone” will do all of the things your computer does, and dell will be in the “phone” business, not the PC business. Who is going to be in control of your “phone service”….??
Sprint, Verizon, T mobile, etc… turning a blind eye to this unfolding before our very eyes is ignorant and foolish. They will have us all by the testicles.
so my car is also a computer? Its got multiple CPU's, a place to watch dvds, and a 7" monitor with android OS on it. I drive a computer! sweet!
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so my car is also a computer? Its got multiple CPU's, a place to watch dvds, and a 7" monitor with android OS on it. I drive a computer! sweet!
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well you are obviously out of your element here.
what is the MAIN function of your car? to drive. technically your brain is a computer. don't be a moron.
a hand held camera for example, has a speaker phone on it for recording sound with the video? correct? does it also have an image processor? yes it does. do we call it a voice recorder? no. we call it a camera.
my whole point is that our "phones" are far more similar to our "computers" and labelling them "phones" and treating them as such, by controlling them and monopolizing them and dictating what we are not allowed to do with them, is none of anybody's ****ing business but ours - much like what you do with your computer is nobody's business but yours. if i download torrents on my lap top, does dell and comcast walk in and remove the service i am paying for? no, they don't, because it is unlawful and not their element. furthermore, phone companies do not treat these devices with the respect they deserve, hence all the security flaws we uncover in the dev community. this needs to change.
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This should at the very least concern some of you. The way the technological world is headed, lap top and desk top computers could very well be obsolete in a few years. Entirely obsolete. Your “phone” will do all of the things your computer does, and dell will be in the “phone” business, not the PC business. Who is going to be in control of your “phone service”….??
Sprint, Verizon, T mobile, etc… turning a blind eye to this unfolding before our very eyes is ignorant and foolish. They will have us all by the testicles.
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The phone "will" do nothing, cause it already does.! And though I agree that the ideal "desktop or laptop" will fade, the touchscreen PC will shine through eventually just as the phone did, I doubt regular computers will fade away at anytime in the near future.
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1. The code for phones is written on supercomputers, so you'll likely not see the complete dismantling of them in general. Maybe a huge drop off of personal (at home) computers/laptops, but not full scale pc absence.
2. Its the desire of the users to have the latest and greatest things to play with that feeds cell phone companies and allows them to control the experience.
3. The only true way to revolt against the companies, is don't buy the latest and greatest, or don't buy at all. We're only subject to our own temptations. You have to eliminate your dependence on your smartphone, and retract back to "the old way" (only make phone calls, write letters, etc). Its because you (general you) have allowed yourself to be reliant on your phone for so many aspects of your life that phone companies (manufacturers and cell service providers alike) have you by the balls.
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The phone "will" do nothing, cause it already does.! And though I agree that the ideal "desktop or laptop" will fade, the touchscreen PC will shine through eventually just as the phone did, I doubt regular computers will fade away at anytime in the near future.
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why would you want a touch screen PC when tablets and ipads and phones are already there? and what makes you think the technology will stay restricted to a display screen? virtual displays are already in the works and these will be implemented as soon as they can be. your "phone" could very likely one day fulfill every aspect of entertainment and communication that your standard home computer does. how do you not see this trend already taking a sharp rise over the last two years compared to the last 4 or 5? sprint and other carrier's line up of devices has taken a major overhaul over merely the last 5 years, and you think that trend is suddenly going to come to a screeching halt and dual core, 1 gig RAM, and 4 inch displays will be the standard for the next century or even 5 years? you are mistaken.
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As a person who has had two phones stolen I can tell you one thing - there needs to be a password on the use of flashing. First I had a galaxy note, which has Samsung locate. But hardware reset saw to that. Second I had a CSL Spice, knowing about hardware reset, I set about finding an un resettable program. In comes avast (brilliant though it is).
Two criticisms, first is its method of retrieval. Sms. Yes, sms. The thief has thrown your sim card in a bush, but in order to remotely access your phone, avast smses your sim card. Classic. Try it, steal your own phone, or get a mate to, it's so tragic its funny. Go on, back up your apps, take out your sd card, and be your own thief. Second issue, obviously is flashing. Avast hides on the partition, but this is wiped and remade based upon your new OS. Bye bye avast.
So really there are two key solutions: password protection on the flashing access. Set by the user, changeable only by those the user gives it to (engineers/new owners). And the other is set a hardware code like IMEI on accessing not just a phone network, but also Google Play registration, and Samsung /other apps registration. That way the code can be flagged by the owner. Actually thirdly is an email address which appears upon failed flashing password attempts. To remind the thief that he can still take the brick of plastic and metal (and gps) back.
I'd like all new owners to be informed of what to do upon loosing their phone, codes to note down etc. As I feel this is not done enough. I'd love to start a push to get Samsung and other droid phones as well as Google Play to start this and maybe we can finally end phone theft.
Anyone think a petition is possible?
How were your phones stolen? I have never had one of the 40+ phones i or my immediate family have owned (knock on wood here as i probably just jinxed myself) stolen.
In my case it could be just locale, but i have worked in some pretty rough areas with high crime rates so i could just be lucky or plain diligent with what i do with my phone when not in use.
Not being disrespectful here, just seeking enlightenment on what behaviours/actions leads to them being stolen to see how it is different to my experience.
As to your proposal, not a bad idea. One thing i can think of is that like the locked bootloaders that were/are put on some phones, somebody will most likely find an exploit/hack to get around it. They almost always do. Could be talking out my arse on that as i am not knowledgeable with this but they always seem to find a way.
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but this dexpends where you go and therefore stuff as such.....if i were to stay home alot im sure the 40+ phones ive had would hardly get stolen as well. saying this I've had to phones stolen as well and its not fun. i would sign
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I do like the Imei idea. I've never had a phone stolen. I've worked in gyms, restaraunts, public schools, indoor reffing, etc
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depends how tech savy the thief is.. if they perform an Odin flash then only thing preventing use of the phone on ATT is IMEI blacklisting. Couple of things come to mind that might help. If they pick up the phone and try to use it as-is without switching SIMS or factory reset Plan-B can help. If either of these is done then only thing that will help would be something such as a preconfigured Plan-B app in the CWM image to "phone home" after SIM change and factory reset.
Security would lay back and laugh at your problem.
Just being aware of your environment and using sensible precautions will go a long way towards preventing theft. Treat your phone like it's worth hundreds of dollars and you should be OK. For example, If you were at a social gathering where there were many people you didn't know would you leave six one hundred dollar bills sitting on a table in a secluded area while you went to the bathroom? Probably not, yet I commonly see people doing just that with their $600 phones at parties or while at the park with friends. They rely on strangers honesty and their friends vigilance to protect their property. The trouble is, cell phones have become so common place the friends would be as likely wonder why someone is picking up their beer as to why they are picking up your phone. Honest folks expect others to be just as honest as they are and why not? They are normal after all and aren't all normal people honest just like them? So, if someone sees another picking up a random ubiquitous phone and putting it to their ear while they walk out the door they will surely not think twice about it. The phone is obviously that person's, else why would they pick it up? Thief's who steal in public rely on people not noticing "normal" behavior. Just treat your phone like it's a hundred dollar bill and you should suffer no more losses due to theft, unless you are mugged of course.
Just get Cerberus. Problem solved.
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but this dexpends where you go and therefore stuff as such.....if i were to stay home alot im sure the 40+ phones ive had would hardly get stolen as well. saying this I've had to phones stolen as well and its not fun. i would sign
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I wish i could stay at home a lot. Not the case. Do lot of traveling and in a lot of different locales/ environments. Just don't put my property where there is an opportunity for some one else to make it theirs. That is why i asked what the circumstances were behind theirs being stolen. If it was stolen due to lack of diligence on their pArt or were they physically assaulted.
Sorry about your losses and i am sure it is not a pleasant experience. I know i would not be happy.
I personally think the idea is sound.
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what he said...
and, be more aware of where your phone is at ALL TIMES...
one time is understandable; two times is carelessness..
I love how western these answers are. Lol, left it in a cafe. My galaxy note was ripped out of my hands my a thief on a motorcycle in Malaysia while I was checking gps map, and my CSL Spice was pushed out of my pocket as I was being dry humped on a moped in Bali. That last one is classed as an accidental loss, which turned into a theft as the lucky buggers driving behind me probably found it. How is besides the point really. "you were stabbed? Oh, we're you in stab proof armour? Carrying a gun? Oh, silly girl!"
Cerberus is bandied around like avast anti theft, if it's flash proof, then I'll bite (as it were), but I'd like to see that claim.
Chiefly what we could do with is a hardware code that content providers request on account activation. Something a phone can't change. It needs a built in theft message/action not one remotely sent. And it needs a flash password.
Actually a readable hardware code would suffice if all content providers signed up.
Who would you speak to to suggest such a thing?
Already in chats with Samsung and Google Play customer services, but they aren't really the development team sadly.
In my city there are at least 4,000 phones for sale on Craigslist daily. Can you imagine how many customer service people at&t would need to manage the IEMI switching? It would be like the frakkin DMV for transfer of ownership. And managing blacklisted IEMI? Fuggetaboutit. I asked one about that idea and their response was "stolen phones are new customers".
the only way to prevent stuff from being stolen, is not to own it in the first place...IMHO
That being said, we all take the risk together when we pull out these fancy devices for the world to see. and lets face it, we all like to flaunt our wares as a status symbol on occasion.
the note is a big fancy eye catcher, and a prime target for crooks to swipe from unsuspecting folks not paying attention. ( sorry about the dry humping moped issue).
And since the odds are, your device will get stolen again, you should change your habits of usage if possible.
I agree that security of the device after theft is difficult, and I would support a petition to enhance the security measures, but I'm not gonna hold my breath on any carrier taking the task on. Like ranger said, a stolen phone is a new customer.....g
It wouldn't require any work, nor switching, just adding a field for IMEI. This is automatic for carriers right, but it needs to be the same for Google play and other app sites.
When a user looses his phone, he logs the IMEI as stolen, and the Google Team put that code on a watch list. Any Form designer could handle that. IMEI or serial number or whatever is hardware based.
Simple idea no?
Thats why I bought this app called gotya.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myboyfriendisageek.gotya
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
NOTE user:
"take a deep breath, make sure to get a good look at it, relax and slowly take it in, the size is overwhelming at first but you will have a happy ending afterwards".
Woman:
:O
Veruvir said:
It wouldn't require any work, nor switching, just adding a field for IMEI. This is automatic for carriers right, but it needs to be the same for Google play and other app sites.
When a user looses his phone, he logs the IMEI as stolen, and the Google Team put that code on a watch list. Any Form designer could handle that. IMEI or serial number or whatever is hardware based.
Simple idea no?
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And when the vindictive girlfriends and exwifes report out of spite?
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And when the vindictive girlfriends and exwifes report out of spite?
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you'd think they'd just smash it on the floor or drop it in the toilet...
You probably live in a ****ty neighbourhood no offence.
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You probably live in a ****ty neighbourhood no offence.
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Yeah, there's no criminals in "nice" neighborhoods.
I use Tasker for:
When I switch locations, a front/back pic + GPS, sent to google drive.
When not at a location that has is known, it sends the same info every time the screen comes on.
Tasker locks certain apps in unknown locations, so the main screen stays unlocked. I figure the longer they can play with the phone on the more likely I am to get it back.
Sms of course to trigger by minute pics and GPS.
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Yeah, there's no criminals in "nice" neighborhoods.
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sure there is; thats where they go to steal stuff!