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Hi,
I was planning to buy this device. Can someone give me their feedback about the battery life. (Not comparisons to other devices)
If someone can tell me the following, it would be great
-How many hours of music playback (I intend to use bluetooth headset)
-How many hours of video?
-How many hours of internet browsing
Just approximate values should do. Thanks
roc_vader said:
Hi,
I was planning to buy this device. Can someone give me their feedback about the battery life. (Not comparisons to other devices)
If someone can tell me the following, it would be great
-How many hours of music playback (I intend to use bluetooth headset)
-How many hours of video?
-How many hours of internet browsing
Just approximate values should do. Thanks
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Hi,
1. Music playback I have not tried so do not know.
2. Video - I watch movies and stuff at a stretch for 6-7 hours with a 60-75% volume and brightness of around 25-30% of maximum.
3. Internet browsing again have not checked. But I am guessing it would vary with if WiFi or sim data. I am guessing this also would be around 6-7hours. Maybe some1 else who has tried can tell you about this.
As far as general everyday use goes, I use it for reading ebooks, watching around 2-3hours of videos /day and browsing net via WiFi for about 30-45min/day. With this usage, I the battery lasts me for 12-15hours of active usage with the brightness set to a level of 20% of maximum - sufficient for indoor use. Of course, while on video, the in app brightness is set to higher.
hope this helps. And it is a wonderful device but a bit pricy - but then again its worth it.
One of my colleagues said that his Galaxy tab easily does upto 10 hrs of Browsing on wifi... But thats probably coz of a lower frequency cpu. Now am confused if I should look at the Galaxy as an alternative, especially since its $125 cheaper
Still, I thought that an under-clocked Jetstream ROM can help me get similar battery life, with an option to go back to stock if I ever wanted to.
What say? Is it worth those $125 extra?
I have used the galaxy tab briefly. I definitely like the Jetstream way better. But it depends on you-my main usage on Jetstream has to do with the scribe pen and tons of ebooks. The ability to seemlessly annotate and underline, highlight in the native PDF viewer plus the notes app which is replaced by quill is just as close to brilliant as could be.
10 hours on WiFi only possible I think. I said 6-7hours for a mix of mobile data and WiFi. But as I said I have not tried so do not know for sure.
In any case, the sound is surely better, processor surely ahead. So if 125 is not too much a burden I would surely suggest Jetstream. However, a word of caution. It is likely that customization may be delayed with the Jetstream due to it being relatively newer and a slightly more expensive tab compared to the Galaxy Tab. ICS may see Galaxy Tab a good time earlier compared to Jetstream. There is a Doom Kernel which allows for system mods provided by the person who gave us root-DoomLord. You can under/over clock with that. So think it over before you invest. Tried giving honest overview of the pros and cons from Jetstream point of view. Hope it will help you decide and hope to see 1 more proud Jetstream owner.
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I use my HTC Jetstream daily for work, especially because I use the stylus pen everyday to take notes, mark up PDF's, etc... I have no problem getting all day battery life using my Jetstream.
What I have done is, I have the Jetsream in airplane mode, then I have switched the WiFi on, and seems to give me an extra hour of battery life. I tested once on a weekend where I used the Jetstream all day and lasted about 12 hours. This was browsing, email and watching some YouTube.
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Hey guys
I've been looking a LOT around amazon and such for a tablet under $100. Why under $100? I need it to be under that price because there's a very high "luxury" tax applied in my country to products over $100, and it's an extra money I would rather not give to the govt because it's plain ridiculous already. Also, I'm planning on getting two of them, and I can't afford more than $150-200 on them. Why? this stupid country only gives you a "coupon" of $400 to spend online -YEARLY-, and I don't want to use it all on just two tablets, or be left with less than $200-250 to spend on other stuff I also need.
Monetary reasons explained and set aside, I'm getting the tablet for my mom, who only needs to browse the web, get on facebook, get & reply to emails, maybe some chatting and whatnot. She doesn't need much and I'm sure a simple Zeepad or something similar would do, but I'm a power user who mods almost every device that comes across his hands, so I'm using this chance to get a tablet too -if- I like the one I'm buying to my mom.
My mom's needs are... well, the basics. Maybe playing a video or two and nothing else. Me, on the other hand, want to upgrade it to the highest android version available for it (whether it be GB or ICS, or even Froyo since some come with Eclair (Eww)) and give it lots of possible uses. These include using it as a VNC viewer, remote keyboard/mouse, some development (if I get a keyboard+case for it), some gaming (ok, maybe not THD or anything but if it runs Angry Birds I'm happy XD) etcetera.
So, to resume, I'm looking for something including these specs, if possible:
3G (optional but it would be a big plus)
WiFi (must, or if not, then 3G)
600-800Mhz CPU (ARM? Adreno? Cortex? wtf?!)
A decent GPU (PowerVR? (like my Defy)?, what's a good GPU in android devices anyways?)
No stylus-exclusive (avoid if possible)
No resistive screen (I've heard they suck, and I don't want to push a screen like if it were a button (Blackberry Storm anyone? Eww xD) and be forced to use a stylus. If I can use my fingers on a resistive screen and it feels like a capacitive one, then that's okay with me )
USB host (to be able to plug in USB drives, keyboards, mices, etc)
Ethernet port optional but cool if it has one.
Tethering ability (though I think this is more OS-dependant than anything else)
Full Android Market (stupid chinese tablets)
SD card reader
Medium-small size. My whole Nook Simple Touch has the right size for the screen size I'd like (I think that's 7-9 inches?), I don't want to carry a tablet of the size of a notebook. Something that can fit a big pocket in a jacket or a pant would be cool, like the NST . This is optional but not required.
Battery life to stand a lot. Hey, my phone lasts only a day even without WiFi turned on which sucks. I've heard their batteries are like 6 or more hours, which seems okay... I'm not really sure what is "good" in this aspect.
Camera would be cool.
Phone (or at least SMS) functions would be cool, too.
And last but not least, able to be upgraded, or at least with a good hacker community stabilished. I want to be able to upgrade the tablet to other android versions (I don't mind if they're experimental) or at least compile a version for it. With this, I'm saying I don't want to be using google translate to find info on how to install another ROM in my tablet because everything comes from chinese forums and the tablet uses a random, non-standard OMFG-9372 processor nobody knows -anything- about and have to use dodgy apps or hacks to modify it, mmkay? okay.
Now, I've done my homework and these are the items I've came up with, however I'm still looking for more devices:
EEpad MID: http://www.amazon.com/Android-Table...C2/ref=sr_1_99?ie=UTF8&qid=1334592070&sr=8-99
Elsse: http://www.amazon.com/Elsse-Interne.../ref=sr_1_125?ie=UTF8&qid=1334592099&sr=8-125
Pandigital: http://www.amazon.com/Pandigital-An...H0/ref=sr_1_60?ie=UTF8&qid=1334591812&sr=8-60
Zeepad: http://www.amazon.com/Zeepad-Tablet...7Q/ref=sr_1_25?ie=UTF8&qid=1334591744&sr=8-25
Skytex: http://www.amazon.com/Skytex-Primer...E0/ref=sr_1_50?ie=UTF8&qid=1334591812&sr=8-50
Zeepad (2): http://www.amazon.com/Zeepad-Androi...1_fkmr1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1334592627&sr=8-3-fkmr1
Coby Kyros: http://www.amazon.com/Coby-MID7015-.../ref=sr_1_121?ie=UTF8&qid=1334593041&sr=8-121
"Random" brands:
http://www.amazon.com/Boxchip-Corte...0K/ref=sr_1_82?ie=UTF8&qid=1334592041&sr=8-82
http://www.amazon.com/Tablet-Intern...5Q/ref=sr_1_91?ie=UTF8&qid=1334592986&sr=8-91
Now, my thoughts:
EEpad MID: Looks good, but it has no reviews, so that detracts me from buying it. I can't find much info on the web on modifying it though.
Elsse: Seems like an asian tablet with no official Android Market, but eh, what do you guys say?
Pandigital: Looks like it sucks .
Zeepad: There isn't much info about it
Skytex: Looks cheap-o and low-quality :/
Zeepad (2): Seems to have good features and such.
Coby Kyros: Now, this, coming from Coby it makes me think of a cheap device like the MP3 players they make, but surprisingly, it has more reviews than the rest of the tablets and it's under $100. Also, it seems to be more powerful than the rest of the ones I've looked at (in the links here), and the reviews seem to be good. It makes me think if it's possible to upgrade it to 2.2 or 2.3, it would be really cool if it would.
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Sorry for the long read!... in case you want a resume, I'm just looking for two tablets: A simple one for my mom to browse the web, emails, play some games, chat and etc, and another one (or the same one if possible) for a power-user who would modify/upgrade it and use it as an IT work tool (VNC viewer, dev. tool, document editing, pdf reading, flash, some gaming, etc).
Any thoughts you guys have in relation to an android tablet to get? what's something "good" and something "bad"? I'd like to see opinions, reviews or suggestions on other tablets to look for or what other keywords should I look for in Amazon?
Thanks in advance!
- DARKGuy
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Coby Kyros is listed as "resistive" on Amazon, i'm not sure you've noticed that. I think you should check the Ainol (or any allwinner based device). They have somewhat limited community and support but it should be good for performance and gaming. Or bump the price range to 150 and look at Cortex A9 devices with reputable brands..
I agree with NightWatch71 about the tablet but not the price. I found it at around $75 in some places, but that was a long time ago so I forgot. Try looking around on Google Shopping.
Prices on Amazon change so often it's almost impossible to keep up and new manufacturers are releasing tablets a dime a dozen
This list is kept up to date tabletninja.com/finding-the-best-tablets-under-100/
A lot of the same options listed with a few new options from some newbies
Really looking for a good decently large android tablet. I like vanilla android a lot and specs seem really good for the Nexus 9. Looking at the reviews though it doesn't look so great (bad volume and power buttons, light leaks in the screen, lagging applications, etc.). For those of you that own it what do you think, would you recommend it?
I love my Nexus 9 and would strongly recommend it. I've had zero issues with it.
heissman said:
I love my Nexus 9 and would strongly recommend it. I've had zero issues with it.
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I love it too! Just got it yesterday and have zero issues. Love how fast it is. Total bliss.
primary question, what will you primarily use it for, media, web, reading, gaming (high end or low end) .
I personally use mine as a jack of all trades with very little gaming. ( my wife on the other hand would need the nvidia shield for her gaming obsession )
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love my nexus 9
I've had almost every tablet out there. I have a habit of buying them as they are released and I have to say that this one is my favorite. The combo of lollipop and the tablet makes it feel like it's completely unique. Fast as hell, beautiful and it feels good as an ereader / comic reader without being too big.
Love this tablet.
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No.
di11igaf said:
No.
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Why?
USBhost said:
Why?
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For ME, I don't want to be aggravated or pissed when using a tablet, which is exactly what the nexus 9 does. I've owned about every nexus device ever made, and this one is the worst (and best) user experience all in one. Mainly-
1) screen flicker. Every day. Always comes back after a reboot.
2) lag. I've had single core devices lag less than this thing. Literally. I know why its its lagging, and right now its unfixable.
3) after using a nexus 6 today, I am absolutely 100% convinced the n9 should have had 3 gigs of ram. This is the worst as this is something that wont be fixed until the NEXT nexus tablet comes out. The nexus 6 in a 24 hour period didn't hit low or critical ram states at all. Not one second. The 9 lives in these states. I had 5 chrome tabs open on the n6, while switching back and forth between all kinds of **** including games, and a page NEVER refreshed. It was wonderful, and made me realize the main thing I use the n9 for completely SUCKS compared to a phone. If anything, a tablet should be better at these things, not worse.
4) screen flicker
5 lag.
TheAppleAndroidGuy said:
Really looking for a good decently large android tablet. I like vanilla android a lot and specs seem really good for the Nexus 9. Looking at the reviews though it doesn't look so great (bad volume and power buttons, light leaks in the screen, lagging applications, etc.). For those of you that own it what do you think, would you recommend it?
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I do recommend it but wait another month so you'd have a better chance of getting the newer revision which seem to have less issues with the buttons and lightbleed.
di11igaf said:
For ME, I don't want to be aggravated or pissed when using a tablet, which is exactly what the nexus 9 does. I've owned about every nexus device ever made, and this one is the worst (and best) user experience all in one. Mainly-
1) screen flicker. Every day. Always comes back after a reboot.
2) lag. I've had single core devices lag less than this thing. Literally. I know why its its lagging, and right now its unfixable.
3) after using a nexus 6 today, I am absolutely 100% convinced the n9 should have had 3 gigs of ram. This is the worst as this is something that wont be fixed until the NEXT nexus tablet comes out. The nexus 6 in a 24 hour period didn't hit low or critical ram states at all. Not one second. The 9 lives in these states. I had 5 chrome tabs open on the n6, while switching back and forth between all kinds of **** including games, and a page NEVER refreshed. It was wonderful, and made me realize the main thing I use the n9 for completely SUCKS compared to a phone. If anything, a tablet should be better at these things, not worse.
4) screen flicker
5 lag.
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What do you do to get lag??
I get no lag here
I bet you will say because it only has 2g of ram
Thats why it lags
I say no thats not it
Like you said you multi task a lot
And thats has to be the only way to get lag.
True 2g of ram is small
And true it should have had 3 or even 4g of ram
I agree on you on that
i even have some screen flicker too but it is rare
Even on 1 brightness
But you say that you get lag on everything
Man i just cant believe it i cant
USBhost said:
What do you do to get lag??
I get no lag here
I bet you will say because it only has 2g of ram
Thats why it lags
I say no thats not it
Like you said you multi task a lot
And thats has to be the only way to get lag.
True 2g of ram is small
And true it should have had 3 or even 4g of ram
I agree on you on that
i even have some screen flicker too but it is rare
Even on 1 brightness
But you say that you get lag on everything
Man i just cant believe it i cant
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I don't get lag on everything. That's not what I'm saying, and which is why I also say its the best and worst experience on a tablet.
I don't really multitask a lot, no more than average I'd say. I literally use this tablet for a few things, web browsing, youtube, very light gaming. My multitasking involves switching between youtube and chrome, and rarely a light game.
What I am saying though is it does lag MORE than most devices I have. After a fresh reboot, even in safe mode so there is 0 third party apps running after a while this tablet gets hit with serious bouts of massive lag and stutter. I've always heard about android lag, blah blah, and always basically thought people were full of **** or being too picky because really I've never had a device that lagged or whatever. Ya an occasional hiccup with previous devices, but rarely and never too bad. Not with the 9. Its consistent after a few hours use..
Maybe since you are actively developing, you're rebooting often. When I was compiling kernels and aosp builds, I flashed multiple times a day, which I'm assuming you may be as well as fast as you're kernel is being updated. Chances are if you don't have these bouts of lag, that's why. Like you said you can't believe my device lags a lot, I can't believe the opposite. If after a few hours my tablet is starting to lag while in safe mode, I find it VERY hard to believe most people aren't seeing ANY lag. Maybe what I'm considering lag you aren't. I'm calling lag ui choppiness/stutters/unresponsive for multiple seconds after pressing something.
I know lag is not hardware- Denver seems to be beastly. Software?- parts maybe, but lollipop does not have these 'lag' periods on my nexus 4, nexus 5, or either of my two nexus 7 2013's. I personally don't think its a coincidence that my nexus 9 is the only one that spends its time in low and critical memory, and its the only one to lag. Add to that it ONLY seems to lag bad while in these states. With all this said, what else is causing lag? Especially when it happens in safe mode- so third party apps are out of the question they are not the main cause. Something causes this lag, maybe its not lack of ram, but it sure seems that way so far- if memory leaks were fixed , maybe this will become a non issue. System ui and android system shouldn't be consuming 300mb a piece, which is what they will swell to after a few days.
On top of this, there is a reason google is using zram on this device and no other nexus, and its not because they're are testing it out or whatever else I've heard. They knew 2 gigs probably wasn't quite enough. Why else would they do this?
I just took this screen shot- this is actually better than usual. I'm curious if you don't have lag what this screen looks like for you, set to 24 hour period?
di11igaf said:
I don't get lag on everything. That's not what I'm saying, and which is why I also say its the best and worst experience on a tablet.
I don't really multitask a lot, no more than average I'd say. I literally use this tablet for a few things, web browsing, youtube, very light gaming. My multitasking involves switching between youtube and chrome, and rarely a light game.
What I am saying though is it does lag MORE than most devices I have. After a fresh reboot, even in safe mode so there is 0 third party apps running after a while this tablet gets hit with serious bouts of massive lag and stutter. I've always heard about android lag, blah blah, and always basically thought people were full of **** or being too picky because really I've never had a device that lagged or whatever. Ya an occasional hiccup with previous devices, but rarely and never too bad. Not with the 9. Its consistent after a few hours use..
Maybe since you are actively developing, you're rebooting often. When I was compiling kernels and aosp builds, I flashed multiple times a day, which I'm assuming you may be as well as fast as you're kernel is being updated. Chances are if you don't have these bouts of lag, that's why. Like you said you can't believe my device lags a lot, I can't believe the opposite. If after a few hours my tablet is starting to lag while in safe mode, I find it VERY hard to believe most people aren't seeing ANY lag. Maybe what I'm considering lag you aren't. I'm calling lag ui choppiness/stutters/unresponsive for multiple seconds after pressing something.
I know lag is not hardware- Denver seems to be beastly. Software?- parts maybe, but lollipop does not have these 'lag' periods on my nexus 4, nexus 5, or either of my two nexus 7 2013's. I personally don't think its a coincidence that my nexus 9 is the only one that spends its time in low and critical memory, and its the only one to lag. Add to that it ONLY seems to lag bad while in these states. With all this said, what else is causing lag? Especially when it happens in safe mode- so third party apps are out of the question they are not the main cause. Something causes this lag, maybe its not lack of ram, but it sure seems that way so far- if memory leaks were fixed , maybe this will become a non issue. System ui and android system shouldn't be consuming 300mb a piece, which is what they will swell to after a few days.
On top of this, there is a reason google is using zram on this device and no other nexus, and its not because they're are testing it out or whatever else I've heard. They knew 2 gigs probably wasn't quite enough. Why else would they do this?
I just took this screen shot- this is actually better than usual. I'm curious if you don't have lag what this screen looks like for you, set to 24 hour period?
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O ok ty for verifying
Also how do you get to that screen
Edit: found it
di11igaf said:
I don't get lag on everything. That's not what I'm saying, and which is why I also say its the best and worst experience on a tablet.
I don't really multitask a lot, no more than average I'd say. I literally use this tablet for a few things, web browsing, youtube, very light gaming. My multitasking involves switching between youtube and chrome, and rarely a light game.
What I am saying though is it does lag MORE than most devices I have. After a fresh reboot, even in safe mode so there is 0 third party apps running after a while this tablet gets hit with serious bouts of massive lag and stutter. I've always heard about android lag, blah blah, and always basically thought people were full of **** or being too picky because really I've never had a device that lagged or whatever. Ya an occasional hiccup with previous devices, but rarely and never too bad. Not with the 9. Its consistent after a few hours use..
Maybe since you are actively developing, you're rebooting often. When I was compiling kernels and aosp builds, I flashed multiple times a day, which I'm assuming you may be as well as fast as you're kernel is being updated. Chances are if you don't have these bouts of lag, that's why. Like you said you can't believe my device lags a lot, I can't believe the opposite. If after a few hours my tablet is starting to lag while in safe mode, I find it VERY hard to believe most people aren't seeing ANY lag. Maybe what I'm considering lag you aren't. I'm calling lag ui choppiness/stutters/unresponsive for multiple seconds after pressing something.
I know lag is not hardware- Denver seems to be beastly. Software?- parts maybe, but lollipop does not have these 'lag' periods on my nexus 4, nexus 5, or either of my two nexus 7 2013's. I personally don't think its a coincidence that my nexus 9 is the only one that spends its time in low and critical memory, and its the only one to lag. Add to that it ONLY seems to lag bad while in these states. With all this said, what else is causing lag? Especially when it happens in safe mode- so third party apps are out of the question they are not the main cause. Something causes this lag, maybe its not lack of ram, but it sure seems that way so far- if memory leaks were fixed , maybe this will become a non issue. System ui and android system shouldn't be consuming 300mb a piece, which is what they will swell to after a few days.
On top of this, there is a reason google is using zram on this device and no other nexus, and its not because they're are testing it out or whatever else I've heard. They knew 2 gigs probably wasn't quite enough. Why else would they do this?
I just took this screen shot- this is actually better than usual. I'm curious if you don't have lag what this screen looks like for you, set to 24 hour period?
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Do you think this is fixable at all in updates, if so, why/how?
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Do you think this is fixable at all in updates, if so, why/how?
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I hope so. I do like everything about it, besides said issues. Form factor, performance is good and smooth as butter a lot of the time, but when its bad its really bad IMO. It seems like there are big memory leaks with lollipop in general, and they seem to be worse on the nexus 9. Hopefully if they are fixed it will help with my(and other people's) issues.
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If you must have a pure android experience. Then it's a no Brainer. This is the tablet for you. And it's future proof.. meaning that the 64 bit processor is going to kick the **** out of the competition (once app developers take advantage of it ).
The galaxy tab series is also really good. But unfortunately. it has touchwiz. but that can be corrected with a custom ROM.
So far I'm pleased with my nexus 9.
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Hello
I'm thinking of getting the Nexus 9 as well. Plus, it's going to be my first tablet ever. Because of the prices I can only afford the 16GB model (white). Do you think this will be enough space? I know after the first use of the tablet there are only ~ 9GB left, but I think of only using it for creating and editing documents, watching movies (not that much), surfing, ... just basic stuff.
To "upgrade" the storage I read that the Nexus 9 is supporting USB OTG so in case I run out of space, I can simply plug in a stick for additional space, can't I?
Is there anything I have to look for before purchasing? I'll try out the tablet in a local electronic store, I'm aware of light bleeding and the problems of the back of the tablet. But is there anything more?
It would be nice if you can tell me something about your experiences!
Thanks in advance
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Hello
I'm thinking of getting the Nexus 9 as well. Plus, it's going to be my first tablet ever. Because of the prices I can only afford the 16GB model (white). Do you think this will be enough space? I know after the first use of the tablet there are only ~ 9GB left, but I think of only using it for creating and editing documents, watching movies (not that much), surfing, ... just basic stuff.
To "upgrade" the storage I read that the Nexus 9 is supporting USB OTG so in case I run out of space, I can simply plug in a stick for additional space, can't I?
Is there anything I have to look for before purchasing? I'll try out the tablet in a local electronic store, I'm aware of light bleeding and the problems of the back of the tablet. But is there anything more?
It would be nice if you can tell me something about your experiences!
Thanks in advance
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It will have 11.5 free for the 16gb one
Otg is fine and awesome
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It will have 11.5 free for the 16gb one
Otg is fine and awesome
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That sounds great so far!
I read that there are 11,5GB free but only ~ 9GB "for use". Can you confirm that? But anyways, I'm not going to use it for huge amounts of music and pictures so I guess (and hope, haha ) that it'll be enough space available.
So far the memory leak in this tablet has led me to the worst experience ever of any tablet. Every app resumes by restarting as it has been purged from memory. Home screen redraws everytime. Just browsing web kills services like music. Cmon Google this is just sad.
Yep. Apparently some people enjoy the experience but this tablet is just fail. I have high hopes it can be fixed but have been waiting for a patch near on six months. It is pathetic and a clear signal to me that the nexus line is dying.
try out some ROMs and or kernels
they fix a lot of problems
The real problem here is not the N9, but 5.0.1.
I do believe this is a good example of YMMV. I have been wanting for quite a while to get a new tablet and settled for the Nexus 9 whereas I have always been a Samsung fan. I am tired of their politics, slow updates, etc so decided for jump to the Nexus line. I have had it for about a month now and use it a few hours daily for various tasks ranging from the simple reading of a book to remote desktop/VDI work, video watching, streaming music most of the day, games, etc and have not had an issue beyond once or twice getting fairly warm.
I am a bit irritated that I moved to the Nexus line and now am left waiting like everyone else for the 5.1x - that was one of the big reasons I made the change. But, looks like that is on the eventual horizon. However, I am quite happy with my purchase. :good:
Whether a product "sucks" or "rocks" is very subjective because it's based largely on your own expectations. I personally ditched my iPad 2 Mini for the Nexus because I couldn't stand how locked down and limited iOS was, plus the ridiculous jailbreak cat-and-mouse game. I have been using my Nexus 9 LTE for a month now and couldn't be happier. There are no build quality or screen issues at all (and I had to get my iPad replaced twice when I bought it as they had yellow/pink screens). I have not experienced the infamous "memory leak" either, but then again I reboot my devices once a day.
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Whether a product "sucks" or "rocks" is very subjective because it's based largely on your own expectations. I personally ditched my iPad 2 Mini for the Nexus because I couldn't stand how locked down and limited iOS was, plus the ridiculous jailbreak cat-and-mouse game. I have been using my Nexus 9 LTE for a month now and couldn't be happier. There are no build quality or screen issues at all (and I had to get my iPad replaced twice when I bought it as they had yellow/pink screens). I have not experienced the infamous "memory leak" either, but then again I reboot my devices once a day.
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I think maybe you are going to find that you hit on something quite important - the rebooting of your device. Many people feel that you shouldn't have to do that and would suspect that a failure to do so could be causing some of the "Memory leaks". I too reboot it frequently as a matter of principal. Devices require reboots from time time - hence the legend of the tech support first question "Did you reboot?". Fact of life.
I am sorry you think the Nexus 9 sucks. I agree with some of your points, but I really enjoy me Nexus 9. I would suggest that you install the Lollipopalooza ROM. It is extremely fluid and stable. Give it a try.
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I think maybe you are going to find that you hit on something quite important - the rebooting of your device. Many people feel that you shouldn't have to do that and would suspect that a failure to do so could be causing some of the "Memory leaks". I too reboot it frequently as a matter of principal. Devices require reboots from time time - hence the legend of the tech support first question "Did you reboot?". Fact of life.
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That's exactly why I reboot my devices, just like I reboot my computers when something hiccups. Software is written by humans and humans make mistakes, so I always expect there to be some issues that slipped past QA testing.
The old "did you turn it off and back on again" adage holds true even today. It's just part of owning any kind of electronics. Just like you try again when your car doesn't start the first time. I love my Nexus 9, it's so much better than my iPad was.
I don't need to reboot mine, it will happily do that itself on a regular basis for no reason whatsoever. I was so excited when I jumped to a nexus device at last, expected the world - not unreasonably for 400 quid I might add - and actually regret not buying a tab s or the Sony.
Never thought I would be saying that out loud but here we are.
Gotta love all these people complaining about a memory leak, who don't even know WHAT A MEMORY LEAK EVEN IS, or HOW Android memory management works. Yes, it is possible for poorly written software to consume memory, for example, by spawning shell daemons that eat ram. Fact of life. Quit running garbage on your device and the memory won't get eaten up.
We have a few N9's, uptimes countable in *months*. No constant reload issues. Some slowdown from time to time when under heavy I/O strain, but that's what you get with swcrypto. With that different of an experience compared to "complainers", it is quite obvious that the difference is something that YOU ARE DOING WRONG. Time to take a very careful look at what software you are running.
Man you just troll this forum day and night. Just because you don't have issues doesn't mean others cause their n9 issues.
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Gotta love all these people complaining about a memory leak, who don't even know WHAT A MEMORY LEAK EVEN IS, or HOW Android memory management works. Yes, it is possible for poorly written software to consume memory, for example, by spawning shell daemons that eat ram. Fact of life. Quit running garbage on your device and the memory won't get eaten up.
We have a few N9's, uptimes countable in *months*. No constant reload issues. Some slowdown from time to time when under heavy I/O strain, but that's what you get with swcrypto. With that different of an experience compared to "complainers", it is quite obvious that the difference is something that YOU ARE DOING WRONG. Time to take a very careful look at what software you are running.
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I, for one, do appreciate your comments. Here and on the N6 forum.
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Gotta love all these people complaining about a memory leak, who don't even know WHAT A MEMORY LEAK EVEN IS, or HOW Android memory management works. Yes, it is possible for poorly written software to consume memory, for example, by spawning shell daemons that eat ram. Fact of life. Quit running garbage on your device and the memory won't get eaten up.
We have a few N9's, uptimes countable in *months*. No constant reload issues. Some slowdown from time to time when under heavy I/O strain, but that's what you get with swcrypto. With that different of an experience compared to "complainers", it is quite obvious that the difference is something that YOU ARE DOING WRONG. Time to take a very careful look at what software you are running.
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Stock 5.0.1, unrooted, chrome, google play music, sheets, docs, drive, keep, inbox, hangouts.
Oh, and occasionaly some google maps, g+/photos.
There, explain me how my daily "wtf, why is this stopped... oh, it's rebooting itself" is caused by my bad software usage.
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Oh, ****, wait, you are right, I installed a weather app from google play store and also the NBA app.
Those damn dev bastards who ruined my N9!!
EDIT: my usage was not always this one. I've also used it for gaming (real Racing 3, Limbo, etc), multimedia (Plex, ArchOS for smb streaming), and many other stuff. It was unbearable to be in the middle of something and see "unfortunately XPTO app has crashed", and the overheating, the lag, etc etc... some kernels and custom roms helped a lot at first but after a week of usage the same behavior would be back... So it's now a very basic usage device. I actually use my N4 for almost everything... even to remote desktop to my home servers (coupled with a chromecast that I plug wherever I can).
And still reboots out of nowhere, in the middle of nothing, while draining battery like a athlete on steroids.
While I do love my N9, the wait for updates is absolutely unacceptable. This is supposed to be a flagship Google device and the flicking Nexus Player gets updated before our tablet? Come on Google, support the people who support Google. Get it together.
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Stock 5.0.1, unrooted, chrome, google play music, sheets, docs, drive, keep, inbox, hangouts.
Oh, and occasionaly some google maps, g+/photos.
There, explain me how my daily "wtf, why is this stopped... oh, it's rebooting itself" is caused by my bad software usage.
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Oh, ****, wait, you are right, I installed a weather app from google play store and also the NBA app.
Those damn dev bastards who ruined my N9!!
EDIT: my usage was not always this one. I've also used it for gaming (real Racing 3, Limbo, etc), multimedia (Plex, ArchOS for smb streaming), and many other stuff. It was unbearable to be in the middle of something and see "unfortunately XPTO app has crashed", and the overheating, the lag, etc etc... some kernels and custom roms helped a lot at first but after a week of usage the same behavior would be back... So it's now a very basic usage device. I actually use my N4 for almost everything... even to remote desktop to my home servers (coupled with a chromecast that I plug wherever I can).
And still reboots out of nowhere, in the middle of nothing, while draining battery like a athlete on steroids.
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Ouch. I would be pissed as hell too
Considering buying n9
Hi I'm considering buying a N9, since I like stock android and really dislilke ios. I have a N4 that is still doing fine for my usage (social media, browsing, email...) and suppose i would like the n9, but i've seen quite a few comments on it having bad performance. How is it doing after the 5.1.1 update?
I intend to use it for viewing docs/pdfs, email, browsing and watching videos, nothing too demanding, I don't usually play games.
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Hi I'm considering buying a N9, since I like stock android and really dislilke ios. I have a N4 that is still doing fine for my usage (social media, browsing, email...) and suppose i would like the n9, but i've seen quite a few comments on it having bad performance. How is it doing after the 5.1.1 update?
I intend to use it for viewing docs/pdfs, email, browsing and watching videos, nothing too demanding, I don't usually play games.
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Those are all working very well on mine. I've not had a problem. I also don't play any games.
lucena said:
Hi I'm considering buying a N9, since I like stock android and really dislilke ios. I have a N4 that is still doing fine for my usage (social media, browsing, email...) and suppose i would like the n9, but i've seen quite a few comments on it having bad performance. How is it doing after the 5.1.1 update?
I intend to use it for viewing docs/pdfs, email, browsing and watching videos, nothing too demanding, I don't usually play games.
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On the whole, I've really enjoyed using my N9. Yes, there have been problems, but then there always are with new hardware and software.
The tablet is great, especially now with 5.1.,, it's a great size - which I see sammy are now copying after everyone slagged off Google/HTC for producing a tablet with 4:3 screen.
I'd recommend it to anyone :good::good::good:
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Hi I'm considering buying a N9, since I like stock android and really dislilke ios. I have a N4 that is still doing fine for my usage (social media, browsing, email...) and suppose i would like the n9, but i've seen quite a few comments on it having bad performance. How is it doing after the 5.1.1 update?
I intend to use it for viewing docs/pdfs, email, browsing and watching videos, nothing too demanding, I don't usually play games.
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I like mine a lot - great tablet (and I've had a lot of them). Running the AICP ROM. My only complaint is that it only has 32GB of storage with no expansion. If it were 64GB it'd be perfect.
Afternoon folks.
I'm currently on the fence with the N9, and I may have an opportunity to buy a brand new 16GB for only £130-ish.
However, even at that price I'm not willing to forgive the many sins I'm reading about on here, light bleed, getting extremely hot and not being able to have more than 1 Chrome tab open are deal breakers for me.
I know these problems exist but, to my surprise, this doesn't seem to be a very popular forum compared to the N7 (2013) which is my current tablet (was the N9 a bit of a flop or do people just not develop for it on here??) and I wanted to check if there have been any kind of hardware revisions or software improvements that have made the N9 a great device to use, as it should have been from day one.
So yea, even now a year later, are these problems I'm reading about on here widespread?? If not is there a light at the end of the tunnel or should I just avoid?
Thanks
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However, even at that price I'm not willing to forgive the many sins I'm reading about on here, light bleed, getting extremely hot and not being able to have more than 1 Chrome tab open are deal breakers for me.
I know these problems exist but, to my surprise, this doesn't seem to be a very popular forum compared to the N7 (2013) which is my current tablet (was the N9 a bit of a flop or do people just not develop for it on here??) and I wanted to check if there have been any kind of hardware revisions or software improvements that have made the N9 a great device to use, as it should have been from day one.
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I don't believe there have been any hardware improvements.
You might want to check this thread and this thread as well and read about various folks' experiences. You might also wait a few weeks and check back after Android 6 is rolled out (though I think the consensus among folks running the previews is that it is not much different).
I think the bottom line is that some people are very happy with the N9 and others are very unhappy with it. Some issues, the chrome tab one in particular, seem universal unless you modify your device. Others, like overheating and light bleed, appear to be either luck of the draw or situation-dependent. (I have had neither of those problems -- I had overheating due to a misbehaving app but the app was updated and I never had the issue again.)
djbenny1 said:
However, even at that price I'm not willing to forgive the many sins I'm reading about on here, light bleed, getting extremely hot and not being able to have more than 1 Chrome tab open are deal breakers for me.
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Obviously everyone has a different experience but I would just like to share that my N9 was perfectly fine. No light bleed issues, doesn't get extremely hot (although it does warm a little after heavy usage but I wouldn't call it "hot") and I frequently have multiple Chrome tabs open (in fact I haven't even heard of this issue until now). So I don't doubt some people are having these issues, but I don't think they are as common as you may think because people without problems generally don't say anything.
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I know these problems exist but, to my surprise, this doesn't seem to be a very popular forum compared to the N7 (2013) which is my current tablet (was the N9 a bit of a flop or do people just not develop for it on here??) and I wanted to check if there have been any kind of hardware revisions or software improvements that have made the N9 a great device to use, as it should have been from day one.
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I can't speak about the difference in popularity of the forums but rooting and flashing roms was fun when I got my first Android device but now I'm happy to have something that "just works" so I don't frequent the forums as much. I don't believe there has been any revisions that changed the hardware.
In the end, I like my N9 but it is obsolete now.
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Obviously everyone has a different experience but I would just like to share that my N9 was perfectly fine. No light bleed issues, doesn't get extremely hot (although it does warm a little after heavy usage but I wouldn't call it "hot") and I frequently have multiple Chrome tabs open (in fact I haven't even heard of this issue until now). So I don't doubt some people are having these issues, but I don't think they are as common as you may think because people without problems generally don't say anything.
I can't speak about the difference in popularity of the forums but rooting and flashing roms was fun when I got my first Android device but now I'm happy to have something that "just works" so I don't frequent the forums as much. I don't believe there has been any revisions that changed the hardware.
In the end, I like my N9 but it is obsolete now.
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Obsolete?
What would you say is better? When I checked the other day it was 4th in the list of highest benchmarking android devices.
If you can wait one or two more months, and the price of a new tablet is OK for you, then you might want to wait and see how the Pixel C is doing in the tests.
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Obsolete?
What would you say is better? When I checked the other day it was 4th in the list of highest benchmarking android devices.
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Google just announced Pixel C three days ago. While it may not be an obvious successor to Nexus 9 (perhaps the last Nexus tablet?), it is the most current tablet from Google. Nexus 9 has also been out for about a year, the same amount of time the two previous Nexus tablets were released before they were replaced.
djbenny1 said:
Afternoon folks.
I'm currently on the fence with the N9, and I may have an opportunity to buy a brand new 16GB for only £130-ish.
However, even at that price I'm not willing to forgive the many sins I'm reading about on here, light bleed, getting extremely hot and not being able to have more than 1 Chrome tab open are deal breakers for me.
I know these problems exist but, to my surprise, this doesn't seem to be a very popular forum compared to the N7 (2013) which is my current tablet (was the N9 a bit of a flop or do people just not develop for it on here??) and I wanted to check if there have been any kind of hardware revisions or software improvements that have made the N9 a great device to use, as it should have been from day one.
So yea, even now a year later, are these problems I'm reading about on here widespread?? If not is there a light at the end of the tunnel or should I just avoid?
Thanks
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Hi, djbenny1...
I've generally avoided answering such questions in the past, partially because the answer is going to be hugely subjective, and partially because it also depends on what your expectations of the device are. If you plan on playing lots of graphic, GPU intensive, high octane video games on it, I would be inclined to look elsewhere for another device.
And it also depends on what you're prepared to pay for it...
At £130 this represents a significant reduction in price, from the original £319 (for the 16Gb model) and £399 (for the 32Gb model) price points, when the Nexus 9 was announced in the Autumn of last year (2014). A quick Google search reveals that the 16Gb model currently retails for around £250, give or take a few quid.
Leaving aside the dull, uninspiring appearance of the Nexus 9, and the reported hardware problems - the flexi-back, the lightbleed issues, (I never had those issues with my Nexus 9, and I've no idea if HTC made changes to the production process to remedy these problems.), but I would be surprised if they haven't, given how widespread those reports where.
...but leaving aside those issues, the problem with the Nexus 9, IMHO, is it tried to do too many things, too quickly...
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** Implement the new Android RunTime (ART), replacing the old Dalvik runtime, as part of Lollipop. (And compounded further by a memory leak in the initial release version of Lollipop).
** Along with the Nexus 6 smartphone, it was one of the first devices to run Android on a 64bit platform.
** Run Android encrypted (ie, the data partition) by default. Seamless, on-the-fly, encryption, surely has to have some resource penalty (CPU cycles, etc.), resulting in impaired performance - (See my comments later about encryption.)
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All of these elements introduce a multiplicity of 'difficult-to-quantify' variables, whose aggregated deficits cannot be easily foreseen. And introduced together, on one device, and at the same time, seems to me to have been not the best idea from Google. There's certainly no doubting Googles audacity with the Nexus 9, introducing these features, but they did too much, too quickly.
I don't pretend to be either a software or a hardware expert, but everything I know about designing new devices and developing software, suggests that a slower process of design, implementation, testing, and feedback is better in the long run. A slower process of iteration...
...rolling out a new feature on a new device - see how it works in the real world. And then later, add-in a second feature, and see how that works out. Maybe wait for the next device release, before adding in a third feature, and so on and so forth. To quote the old aphorism, "Rome wasn't built in a Day", so why did Google attempt to (metaphorically) do so with the Nexus 9 ??
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For my own part, I'm pretty happy with my Nexus 9 .
I'm currently running it with the 3rd Android M developer preview installed, it's rooted, and as a requirement of acquiring root, it's also unencrypted.
And running it without encryption, made a **BIG** difference to my Nexus 9. See my post here from June of this year, and the benchmark results I obtained with AnTuTu as a result of decrypting it.
With regard to the oft reported problem of Chrome reloading tabs... yes, it does do this, but I can't say this is a major problem for me.
I've spent the past few hours drafting and submitting posts on XDA, preparing and sending several emails via MailDroid, and all the while, frequently dipping in and out of Chrome to do some fact checking, and with something like around 20 tabs open. Yes, they do reload (but not every time), but it takes no more than a few seconds. Maybe again, this has something to do with my device not being encrypted. I should also add here, I tend to run Greenify rather aggressively (as I do on all my Android devices), hibernating all the apps I have installed that I can realistically get away with. Obviously I don't hibernate things like widgets, or apps which set alarms, or depend on push notifications... but this leaves more RAM for the 3 or 4 apps I do use on a frequent basis.
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So... My Nexus 9 does what I need it to do, which is primarily web browsing via Chrome, email via MailDroid, and posting here on XDA, via a combination of the XDA Premium 4 app and Chrome.
I'm not a big video game player, but I've been known to occasionally indulge in a game of chess, with Shredder Chess, or a game of Sudoku with Andoku 2. The most graphics intensive games I play on it are Temple Run: Oz and Subway Surfers. Both games run without problem. And I can't say my Nexus 9 gets particularly hot... A little warm, yes... but hot - no.
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So, should you buy one for £130...??
I would say, if you're prepared to tinker with it a little (Unlock the bootloader, flash ElementalX kernel for decryption purposes), then I think there are worse ways of spending £130.
Another way of looking at it is, what alternative devices are available for £130? What specifications do they have? RAM, CPU, version of Android? Likelihood of further updates to Android? If you want to tinker with it, how easy or difficult is to root or unlock the bootloader?
Would I buy one today for £130?
Yes, I would (if I didn't already have one).
The benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing - a phrase often used with negative connotations, but I use it here positively. Knowing what I know about it now, and having had it for nearly a year, and how to get the best out of it, I would have no hesitation about buying one for that kind of money... .
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Right, I can't think of anything else to add. Which is probably a good thing... I've rambled on far too long as it is .
I don't know if I've clarified a few things for you or muddied the waters further. I hope it's the former .
Anyway, good luck, with whatever you decide.
Kind Rgrds,
Ged.
I was sitting on the fence on whether or not to get the N9 what tipped my hand into buying one was Argos dropping the price down to £179 and I'm very please with it so far. I've got slight screen bleed at the top but this is only noticeble on dark screens.
jonchill said:
I was sitting on the fence on whether or not to get the N9 what tipped my hand into buying one was Argos dropping the price down to £179 and I'm very please with it so far. I've got slight screen bleed at the top but this is only noticeble on dark screens.
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Yes, the Argos price was too tempting for me also.
I also have a touch of lightbleed which I wouldn't put up with if I'd paid £300. Compared to the Nexus 7 (2013) I think the screen isn't quite as good. The black levels aren't as low but the screen can go a touch brighter.
When you get over the screen however, the speed and small things like always on google now, (even when the screen isn't,) make the tablet worth it.
At £179 I'm happy, at £300 I wouldn't be, at £130, I'd deffo take the chance.