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Yes yes, this is a life story thread, but I want to chronicle how far we have come in the last few months, and the incredible teamwork this community has.
Around march, I got my Galaxy Player for the first time. With the galssy eyes of a techno geek unwrapping his new gadgets, I tore open the box, and beheld my shiny new toy, something, which I did now know at the time, that would take me far beyond my wildest dreams of technical success. Of course I bricked it withing the first 3 hours, "accidentally" deleting ALL the dalvik control settings from build.prop, and not having adb installed at the time, or even knowing what the heck Odin was, spent a merry 7-8 hours trying to get my prized posession back to it's stock state. I probably repartitioned and flash over 50 times that night, which was also when I flashed the INTL bootloader off of zaclimon's thread (little knowing that I would have a healthy partnership with him in just a few months), and thet next morning, I was back in business.
Of course I crack-flashed ALL the rom's there were for the 4.0 at the time. Klin's klassic, steve's, rooted stock, whatever I could find. I just couldn't help but feel slightly depressed that there wasn't really much of a dev presence for my new device, and I was more the enviously eyeing the 5.0's ICS builds. So I lurked for a few months, pondering whether I should even activate my dormant XDA account, scared that I was just too much of a noob to actually get help.
One day though, I took the plunge. I decided that I was going to try and get my feet wet in this "xda" thing, and maybe browse general, helping the occaisonal user in distress. Just 1 day later, I posted my first contribution thread, without even having 10 posts! The tweak guide for the Player, how proud I was of it. All the nice tweaks I had enjoyed on my TF and had discovered for my Gplayer, all there for my own personal quick applying.
2 days after that, I began asking klin1344 about ICS, as reading through some threads, I thought I heard some rumours about a secret underground build that may have been surfacing, as well as whether or not SGS (what is that?) tweaks can be used on our player. He pleasantly responded with the fact that no, there was no ICS, and he had never considered using SGS tweaks. Would I like to be his dev partner?
I will not lie to you, this FLOORED me. Little me, the noob who had maybe had is Gplayer for 2 weeks, and barely knew his way around the terminal, being asked by a dev to help him? Easily one of the proudest moments of my XDA career. I signed up immedately, we began discussing, and ended up coming to a mutual agreement that partnering may not be the best idea, as we both had differing opinions on what should constitute a ROM. He was going to let me support Klassic (my favorite rom), and he was going to start a SGSII themed rom (which turned into ICY fusion.
With joy in my heart, I learned the basics I needed from him (such as DD) and began applying all the tweaks I had from my tweaks thread into this rom. I decided to rename it "stratusrom", and include multiple releases. One beta, one weekly, and one stable. This was nixed completely as soon as I learned how hard devving could be, and after a few false starts that long time forum members will remember, and renaming it "stratusrom" and eventually "etherealrom" (hence the celestially-named projects that I am related to, if you guys wanted to know), I began devving. Not much happened here, I released a few iterations, guiding hands such as daniel644 and the dev zaclimon provided their amazing help to the poor little dev who could (me), trying to make a decent rom. At one point, I had a falling out with Klin (whcih I am sure most of you remember, that was a scary night for me, the little dev, being whaled on full-force by a senior-class dev, with both us us threatening to remove our work), but let's not dig up old bones. Long story short, I rethemed my rom, made it not-klassic, and just worked on it until about mid-july.
In the meantime, I was releasing a whole slew of threads documenting my research. Who knew that SGS roms could be easily ported, and that rom creation wasn't scary? I had a blast finding all of these things out, and even gained a small following during this time, as most development had died off, with klin never really getting his heart back into 4.0 development, tdm leaving, and Balor leaving his kernel for good.
Then it happened. I decided to spearhead an ICS initiative (as at the point, while I didn't even know what a compiler was, thought I was knowledgable enought to start something like that), to finally get it working. Ah, the good old days. Me, neyodmiun and zaclimon, swapping ideas, with the occaissonal user popping in to offer advice or to comment on our progress. Around this time, I also began getting support questions, and as I answered them nicely, and genuinely tried to help them beyond the normal "find my help post" and no response afterwards, and ended up getting a reputation as being someone who wouldn't blow off noobs (not that I am accusing anyone of doing so, but I know that some devs do not take users seriously at all). zaclimon offered up the idea of hiring a freelance dev, and that was ultimately accepted as our plan. Enter Oisis.
This is where most of you guys will know me from. With Oisis on board, we booted ICS on august 13th, and were in business after that. I formed a team aptly named "TeamSuperNova", and got to work learning what the heck GCC was, and where the vendor folder went. What's github again?
Not much to tell from here, as the rest is just history.
I want to thank everyone on XDA for making this journey possible. From klin1344, and zaclimon, to goldflame, and all the other users to have taken on the excellent role of support, so that we can work on what really matters, I think I, no WE have accomplished what we wanted. While our entire community is very small, we are all united as a TEAM, working together like clockwork. Some new user has an issue with cm9? The support team is on it right away, and we normally have their issues sorted out in a few hours. Someone wants to start development? Zaclimon, me, or any of the other devs quickly pop in and give them some advice on where to start, and some resources to use. Any PM that I get, however noobish or "silly" it seems, I answer, and most of the time I actually get it resolved. So don't be afraid to speak up and give your opinion or ask for help. That's what we all are here for. To help, and contribute, as much as we can.
Thank you XDA, users, and everyone for making all of this possible. Now that my speech is over, feel free to put up your own personal story, or just discuss.
Where did you actually start to learn to dev? I've been wanting to start and I asked Meticulus (if you remember him, he was part of the old dev family) and all he told me was "Read a lot " Not the best answer.
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You are a great example of what xda members should be like, I also would like to try to follow in your footsteps as I just got my sgp two weeks ago to !
thank you hanthesolo for all your great work!
EcHoFiiVe said:
Where did you actually start to learn to dev? I've been wanting to start and I asked Meticulus (if you remember him, he was part of the old dev family) and all he told me was "Read a lot " Not the best answer.
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Well quite honestly, I just picked it up here and there. Devving isn't really something you "pick up overnight", or read a how to on. Essentially the best way to learn how to dev, is to do something horrible to one of your devices, and then try to fix it . I can't tell you how much I learned when I bricked my player for the first time. What's Odin? You mean cwm installs WITH the kernel? Just take you're time, try and Google anything you may have questions about, and ask devas anytime you have a problem (hopefully in pm). Other than that, my ROM creation guide may help you get started (although I really need to clean it up), and once you feel confident enough to start compiling, pop me a pm, and I will be happy to guide you through any questions you may have.
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You are a great example of what xda members should be like, I also would like to try to follow in your footsteps as I just got my sgp two weeks ago to !
thank you hanthesolo for all your great work!
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Thanks for the compliment! I HATE it when devs get a superiority complex over their users, and basically refuse to talk to them/help them, or do so in an extremely condescending way, which hurts the community more than it helps, especially a small one like this.
To start revving, just refer to my response above, and pop me a pm whenever you need any help .
I've hard bricked my Player twice and I guess I know how to recover from any situation, I know all the things and headaches associated with bricking a player and such. But thanks for your reply!
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i know i posted up earlier about the red border. Everything is good now. I just now have questions about this phone and its development stages. Since for some reason i cant post in dev page. I have to ask here.
So i was half tempted to not get this phone simply because i browsed the threads and saw no real roms or kernals that do anything fancy. I come from an evo 3d and could flash a rom every single day if i wanted because there were so many. I know this phone is new how new im still not sure upon. I see a real lack of any development on here. The best you can get is turning your og into a nexus 4 and than have cm 10.1 with the downside of only 8gigs of storage period. Well that was the whole reason i did not just pick up the htc one x was because there was no expandable memory and at most you had 10g of internal storage and thats it! so whats going on here? I know alot about the scene and though i have no coding experience myself nor rom building experience. I do love to test roms and i really want a not a stock feel to the phone. Where is the overclocking, where is the transperent status bar, where is anything to make this phone really stick out from stock? Hell i was running jb 4.2 on my evo 3d. Now im stuck being back on ICS? How is this possible that there is not stable jb port to this phone that is properly working. I have 14 days to return this phone. And with people releasing roms that the camera does not work, and storage is crap, and no overclocking support, is it because this is not the phone i thought it could be? Am i not doing enough research. Im currently rooted, unlocked, and running nocturnal limited, and i still feel stock and still 4.04.
Is this phone going to be heavily dev supported like the evo 3d is still today or should i return it and get a phone like the htc one that actually has dev support. All the roms i have seen for this phone is almost complete garbage interms of what this phone should be capable of. And the idea of turning into a nexus 4 is the most idiotic thing i ever heard.... let me change my phone to be another phone? Who wanted that and why did they just not go and get the nexus 4? I may be ranting but i could have got the htc one for .99 as opposed to the $100 i paid to sign a contract with att. I want to know if i am really getting jipped here. Is this not the phone plenty rave about? If your on this site there is no way you want a stock feeling phone and thats what i feel we are getting. I donated to get the freegee app to find out there is no good roms therefor no need to unlock the bootloader so i can flash roms that are not here..........
please dont come at me like a hard a$$ and talk crap, im simply expressing an opinion and asking questions. I loved my evo3d and if i have to carry both around because my 3 year old phone is 10 times better than this optimus im going to be upset. I would just like someone to explain what is in the works with this phone, and if and when there will be some real dev support and why there is almost non at the moment. It sad when devs are still all over the 3d posting new roms everyday, and this one has 5 that are garbage?
thank you for your actual intelligent responses, and cant wait for some nerd raging on me for blasting this out like this. Im simply being real.
Try reading this forum for the answers to your questions. Then maybe sell your OG to someone who appreciates it and knows what to do with it. Sounds like you'd be better off with a SG3. Good luck.
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Wow.... I'll take your OG if you don't want it. Seriously, I will.
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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exactly the responses i was expecting lol.....
Its clearly obvious i have read the forums as i am rooted, unlocked with twrp and nocturnal limited rom... so thank you for pointing out how much i have not read.
As for the sg3...... well thats is just an over priced piece of trash everyone i know hates them.... so thanks but piss off...
as for your iphone comment... only mainstream looooooosers have iphones as they are for the dumb...
no you may not have my optimus if i do anything with it , it will go back to att and ill get a htc one x+ at least people are doing things or at least talking of things they are doing.
HTC has huge dev support and this being my first LG i knew it was going to take some getting used to. I was just hoping for a little more out of this highly praised machine. It is a great phone, i will not say its not. I just was expecting from such a great phone a huge dev following of which i do not see. I see about 5 different roms, a custom cwm touch recovery, and hmmm..... turning your optimus into a nexus.. For you thinking that i am bashing on lg and should give it away.... there is people here pretending there phones are different phones... "hey look i know it says lg but is totally a nexus!" I can download a launcher that makes my phone look like a windows phone.... but hmmmm how dumb is that? At the end of this rant, i was curious as to what anyone knows about the future of the development on this phone. Clearly you do not have answers because that would take thinking, your idiotic comments and replys did nothing to offer any sort of answer nor did it show your IQ being anywhere near that of a 10 year old..
I clearly posted i await your nerd rage and therefore clearly enjoy it, however this thread was not started with the sole intent of it being a bickering fest. I wanted some serious answers, and I tried to express myself and thoughts on this phone along with questions that involved the future of this phone.
I am a flashaholic, i love to make my phones the best they can be. I love anything custom! So if you wanna cry about my thoughts on the phone cry, ill bring you a tissue, otherwise offer some real insight into what this phone is all about, and hopefully where this phone might be heading. Otherwise take your trolling, crying , butthurt comments somewhere else, as they are just absolutely humorous to me, and ill will reply accordingly.
Thanks and hope to hear some real comments...
btw: i cant wait for the grammer police comments cause it seems if no one has something good to say, they just like to correct your grammer, sort of like "your a tool" "no, your a tool" and we can definatly take this back to 1st grade if you like.
Joecascio2000 said:
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
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I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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ripbabey said:
look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
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I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
gregk232 said:
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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You sir..... Is your computer broken, are you stuck on my thread and only my thread which is preventing you from looking at anything else, instead of making a dumb rude comment? Stop trolling every thread and post that is on the site.... you talk about giving my life meaning and here you are telling me to stop it? Hmmmm who are you? I asked questions and my personal feelings on the phone thus far, and in no way bashed the phone or its following. I simply asked questions. I posted joes comment because as i read i actually found it useful. So thanks for peeking in this thread but your comments are best left in that pea sized thing rattling around in your giant head some might call a brain.. I asked questions in the Q and A forum......your comment was neither a q nor an a thus GTFO! XDA is where is got a lot of my EVO 3D questions answered and i respect this site. Its arseholes like you that make people scared to ask questions for fear of some ignorant jacka$$ trying to put them down.
I however can not and will not be intimidated, if i have done anything to violate the terms of this forum, please report me and have me banned. Your STOP IT attack was in no way useful.
SO..... STOP IT, JUST STOP IT!
ripbabey said:
never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
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Wish I had better news. We are all eagerly and (in)patiently waiting for the first release of non-stock roms. Unfortunately, it's just a waiting game. Right now it's LG's move and they are taking their sweet little time. We do have a strong dev following. They are lurking in the shadows. We are very fortunate that we have both an international version of this phone and also the Nexus 4. That gives us two pools where ROMs can be ported from. Just like the Nexus S, i9000, and Samsung Captivate. All of which are still going strong. It took time to get things setup for those phones and like I said we are at a disadvantage because LG isn't as "helpful" as Samsung. Development will take off one way or another, we just have to wait.
IMHO though, nobody should be complaining because stock LG is amazing. And the stock ROMs are perfect.
Dude....
Your entire post sounds like one big vagina monologue.
"There is not enough dev support for this phone..... I can't believe we don't have a stable JB ROM..... I want to flash a new rom every day....."
Waaa waaa waaa :crying::crying::crying::crying:
No one is intimidating you.
Just making the point that you obviously did not act like a rational consumer by purchasing a product that does not meet your expectations, then complain about it in the QA section.
Not sure why you needed to create this thread. Return the phone and get something else if you aren't happy with it. It's not rocket science, lol.
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Oh look, it's this thread again
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
chrisphoenix7 said:
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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gregk232 said:
Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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Yes! In before thread closed!:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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They wouldn't close this thread, it has been nothing but honest, intelligent, mature, informative discussion.
But honestly, this has been asked a lot... We are hoping development will pick up after the source is released and JB hits our device.
But there are no guarantees, it is kind of your fault for picking up a device (great as it may be) that doesn't have 20+ ROMs out for it, you should have looked here first and shied away from the device if development was so important.
Based on what we have heard from devs, the work is being done, it is slow going with no source and nobody wants to work on ICS when JB is coming so soon.
Also, one of the biggest problems here, you called what development we have seen released "garbage," most likely (hopefully) the devs can dismiss that statement as the angry rantings of somebody with a bad filter, but it is still terrible motivation to spur development further.
Work has gone into the development we have seen, it may not have quite the shock and awe factor you are looking for, but they are solid works.
It sounded like you were very unappreciative and then demanded more, maybe not your intention, but that is how it can be construed.
I'm not trying to bash you in any way, but the community does better when there is less... negativity.
Also, no need to be so defensive, you knew you would get the responses you did, should have just let them slide.
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Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
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dood i agree the i777 forums was a nightmare with all the immaturity attitude around
I get the feeling OP is the kind of guy that complains when he gets free stuff.
As for getting a new phone, good riddance. You really didn't need to make this thread. A lot of us are waiting on custom ROMs and CM10 and all that. You don't see us whining about it like a little girl (no offense ladies )
The Samsung update has been itemized and posted on numerous news blogs. Each details all the fancy new features.
Well has anyone actually been able to use them?
Isn't this already 10 months after JB was released?
Why are there more blogs about the features 4.1.2 is supposed to include, and not more about how none of them are actually there?
I have read a few posts about the features being activated "at a later date". Why is this necessary? I have come to the conclusion that the Note I717 is officially obsolete.
No mutli view.
No page buddy.
No "increased preformance" from butter.
no fun.
Ok this rant is really just to see if everyone else feels the burn. Maybe all our internet rage can make the developers realize they should stop pushing out lack-luster performance! Not that we keep things stock, I would like a better foundation to build something amazing onto though!
I dunno, I really like the release. I am happy we got it.
Nice first post. Now, maybe you should spend a little more time researching and you will find that when JB was released to our phone....the source code should not be far behind.....and the source code is what is exciting and needed for the devs!
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I for one am over the moon that Samsung came good for this update. I now have a fully functioning Google Now experience on a rom that is stock stable.
I went for a 12km run this morning using sporty pal to track my distance and listened to tune in radio the whole way...for fun, I whipped out my camera and took a few pics along the way. All this with decent battery stats.
Any other rom I have used would have crashed at some point doing all those three things at once.
Thread closed. Appreciate the angst and anxiety being discussed, but this is a development site.
Why not contribute to said development versus complaining about "stuff"?
Who else is sick and tired of looking for the next cool rom. It kinda drives me crazy looking for everything I want a nice put together rom that works well. I mean don't get me wrong who doesn't appreciate all the work that goes into putting a rom together, it seems like theirs always something going on to make u look for another. For example moon rom is an awesome rom but it will freeze where I have to take the battery out to reboot. Jedi rom is cool but u have to do alot of other flashing to get gps and the camera to work. All I'm saying is it gets a little frustrating. About a year ago I was super into Android I can name 50 different phones I had. That were all rooted and always looking for the next big rom. I got so sick of trying to find that never ending search for the perfect rom. I gave up and actually gave up and went to apple iphone 5. Never jail broke not really cause is not available to jailbreak but probably wouldn't have even if I could. Just cause I was so sick of running around trying to find the coolest rom. So how bout everyone else?
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Not me.
On my Galaxy Nexus I was running Sourcery and never looked at another ROM.
On my Note 2 I have two favorite TW ROMs and two favorite AOSP ROMs.
That's all I need.
Not really tired and sick but I spend alot of time searching the threads looking for a new rom. I mainly stay on Tw but I always have a backup of Cm. Probably go between them once a week.
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Nothing is ever going to be perfect. If it was, we probably wouldn't be looking for ROMs to flash in the first place!
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Jedi rom is cool but u have to do alot of other flashing to get gps and the camera to work. All I'm saying is it gets a little frustrating.
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I see this a lot, and I had the same problem with Jedi X 14 (13 was fine). The solution, as has been posted and that has worked for me, is to simply make sure you have a lock before you flash. No extra flashing. I can't speak to the camera problems as I have never had any.
I think perhaps a lot of the frustration comes from learning the idiosyncrasies of each "new operating system". From stock to a ROM to IOS to Windows to Linux to Mac OS, there's always a learning curve. I've gone, through various phones, from IOS to Sense to TW to vanilla android and back countless times. If you are constantly switching to find something "better", you're going to be constantly facing a learning curve. For some that's fun, for others it's annoying. For me personally, it can be both! :laugh:
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Who else is sick and tired of life. It kinda drives me crazy looking for everything I want in life. I mean don't get me wrong who doesn't appreciate all the work people do in their life, it seems like theirs always something going on to make u live. For example the eskimo life is an awesome life but you freeze to death. The rich life is cool but you have to do a lot of things to have it. All I'm saying is it gets a little frustrating. About a year ago I was super into life I can name 50 different things i did. That were all fun and i was always lookin for the next big thing. I got so sick of trying to find that never ending search for the perfect life. I gave up and actually gave up and went to the hospital. Never went to jail not really cause is not allowed for me to go to jail but probably wouldn't have even if I could. Just cause I was so sick of running around trying to find the coolest life. So how bout everyone else?
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Right right im sorry cuz life is so much like cell phone operating systems. I cant believe how clever that was to think of all that. Really one has nothing to do with the other. At times it is a little crazy how people like u get over this stuff and u make my point by trying to make someone else feel bad just to make yourself feel superior. Im sure alot of the users can agree that trolls like u get high and mighty about useless info. Please stop for a sec take a breath and relax.
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I think rom flashing is more of an addiction for me. Was perfectly happy with stock....then started the never ending Saga of rom flashing
The only Android phone I never installed any custom rom on was the Galaxy nexus gsm
That phone was awesome on stock.
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abvthegod said:
Who else is sick and tired of looking for the next cool, best rom. It kinda drives me crazy looking for everything I want a nice put together rom that works well. I mean don't get me wrong who doesn't appreciate all the work that goes into putting a rom together, it seems like theirs always something going on to make u look for another. For example moon rom is an awesome rom but it will freeze where I have to take the battery out to reboot. Jedi rom is cool but u have to do alot of other flashing to get gps and the camera to work. All I'm saying is it gets a little frustrating. About a year ago I was super into Android I can name 50 different phones I had. That were all rooted and always looking for the next big rom. I got so sick of trying to find that never ending search for the perfect rom. I gave up and actually gave up and went to apple iphone 5. Never jail broke not really cause is not available to jailbreak but probably wouldn't have even if I could. Just cause I was so sick of running around trying to find the coolest rom. So how bout everyone else?
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I used Jelly 'Beans' ROM on my S3 and I use it on my Note 2. Instead of trying to find the whatever ROM made me the happiest, I went for whatever had the most stable build and most useful features and learned to live with anything I didn't like.
Remember, its just a phone. it won't ever do everything you want, but it will communicate with people. Be happy with that.
abvthegod said:
Who else is sick and tired of looking for the next cool, best rom. It kinda drives me crazy looking for everything I want a nice put together rom that works well. I mean don't get me wrong who doesn't appreciate all the work that goes into putting a rom together, it seems like theirs always something going on to make u look for another. For example moon rom is an awesome rom but it will freeze where I have to take the battery out to reboot. Jedi rom is cool but u have to do alot of other flashing to get gps and the camera to work. All I'm saying is it gets a little frustrating. About a year ago I was super into Android I can name 50 different phones I had. That were all rooted and always looking for the next big rom. I got so sick of trying to find that never ending search for the perfect rom. I gave up and actually gave up and went to apple iphone 5. Never jail broke not really cause is not available to jailbreak but probably wouldn't have even if I could. Just cause I was so sick of running around trying to find the coolest rom. So how bout everyone else?
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Boy, your just baiting the trolls and fanboys with this one but I can understand your point of view. I love Android because I get to spend my time looking into the different options that developers put into their ROMs. I think you may be coming off a little disrespectful to the work and time that some of these guys put into what they do... And I want to caution you on that, however you're right, for some devices there is a throng of options to choose from and it may be hard to understand what the real difference is from one developers work to another.
To me, I have developed a trust for developers based on the device OEM I am working with, for Samsung my goto developer is going to be Beans, Scott on HTC... and it's been so long for me on Moto... But to your point.... No I love the research and comparison that comes with all of these options. I have an appreciation for the work that the developers of our community offer to us for free with only the expectation of a donation. I respect the community of users that are always there when I screw something up to answer my questions. Mostly though, it is the fact that I can do so many different things with an Android device... Or choose not do anything to an Android device... that makes it the antithesis of 'sick' or 'tired'.
At the risk of sounding childish, or being viewed as trying to 'one-up' you, and in all seriousness, I genuinely mean this and hope you don't think I am trying to take a shot at you, but iOS is exactly what your answer is. There is no work required to make iOS work the way you want it to because it works the way Apple designed it to work. It is not perfect, and likewise, there is never going to be a perfect ROM for any device... There will never be a perfect device. Is just a matter of what you want. In this case you have what you want. In the great words of that lady who had her head chopped off by her King husband... Let them eat cake!!!
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harajyuks said:
Boy, your just baiting the trolls and fanboys with this one but I can understand your point of view. I love Android because I get to spend my time looking into the different options that developers put into their ROMs. I think you may be coming off a little disrespectful to the work and time that some of these guys put into what they do... And I want to caution you on that, however you're right, for some devices there is a throng of options to choose from and it may be hard to understand what the real difference is from one developers work to another.
To me, I have developed a trust for developers based on the device OEM I am working with, for Samsung my goto developer is going to be Beans, Scott on HTC... and it's been so long for me on Moto... But to your point.... No I love the research and comparison that comes with all of these options. I have an appreciation for the work that the developers of our community offer to us for free with only the expectation of a donation. I respect the community of users that are always there when I screw something up to answer my questions. Mostly though, it is the fact that I can do so many different things with an Android device... Or choose not do anything to an Android device... that makes it the antithesis of 'sick' or 'tired'.
At the risk of sounding childish, or being viewed as trying to 'one-up' you, and in all seriousness, I genuinely mean this and hope you don't think I am trying to take a shot at you, but iOS is exactly what your answer is. There is no work required to make iOS work the way you want it to because it works the way Apple designed it to work. It is not perfect, and likewise, there is never going to be a perfect ROM for any device... There will never be a perfect device. Is just a matter of what you want. In this case you have what you want. In the great words of that lady who had her head chopped off by her King husband... Let them eat cake!!!
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I get it and I think my post might have came off the wrong way. I mean no disrespect to any of the developers. I think all of the work is amazing. Having the first htc google touch smart phone and everything in between might have just burnt me out a little. Maybe just all the different roms mixed in with all the pretentious people just made me ask the question that I did. But ur reply was great and I agree with everything u wrote. Hope I dont waste anyones time.
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Again no disrespect to anyone. Everyone just download roms and have a great time doing it. Thats what its all about. Anf I have donated to many devoplers over the years cuz I do have fun at times and do appreciate the work.
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abvthegod said:
Who else is sick and tired of looking for the next cool, best rom.
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From reading your post, this is how you come off to me.
Seems like no matter how a rom is, you will always complain that there is something wrong with it. If you think all of them have problems, learn how to make your own rom and solve your issue.
Also, if you left android for an iphone, you probably should have stayed with it. Normally posts like this are created by people that like iphones but don't like to openly admit it on xda. So in your position, sell the note2 and go get yourself an iphone so then you have no options except what case you should buy.
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abvthegod said:
Right right im sorry cuz life is so much like cell phone operating systems. I cant believe how clever that was to think of all that. Really one has nothing to do with the other. At times it is a little crazy how people like u get over this stuff and u make my point by trying to make someone else feel bad just to make yourself feel superior. Im sure alot of the users can agree that trolls like u get high and mighty about useless info. Please stop for a sec take a breath and relax.
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its a joke relax
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I have been a crack flasher since the days of old school windows mobile ppc 6600 i believe and have been using android since the og Moto Droid which really jumped it into gear. I was really happy with CM on that phone and when i had a droid2 i was locked down but was a fan of Liberty since they incorporated many of the cm features i liked but once cm7 was released officially that was it. I ended up using that rom on all future devices until I got my Gnex which Aokp took over for me and Team Eos for my Xoom which became my choices for those devices. Aokp is my rom of choice for the Gn2 since i like to support the original devs and their roms are always speedy, stable and has great features and they listened to their supporters and even incoporated S-Pen into the pure asop rom. I'm sure I will try out a few other roms but positive I will go back to what runs the best for speedwise, battery wise and stable which makes life easier.
Of course the option is to learn how to make a ROM and make one that you love
Just had to say hello and a MASSIVE thanks to everyone here. In particular all the guys and or girls who contribute to AndroWook.
I tried to post a thanks in the 2.31 thread in development but as I am classed as a noob I am not permitted to. (I'll go back and click the thanks buttons).
Until today my TF201 was resigned to it's little case, with only the hope of occasional outings when I wanted to occupy and get some down time from my little man. (the joys of being a parent).
I'm no stranger to unlocking, jailbreaking, modding etc, but became tired of manufacturers dropping updates and support for "older" devices. Maybe I got too lazy to research properly. I migrated from iOS and Android to the Win platform, until today! Thanks to xda-dev and the priceless resources and info I have read in the past 6 hours. I now have a revitalized TP TF201 that is going to get used on a daily basis.
So all I need to do now is:
1. Find a new way to distract the boy when he is getting restless.
2. Blow off the cobwebs and get back into the groove of Unix and Linux.
3. Give some valid and useful input back here.
And last but by no means least......
:good::good::good::good::good::good::good:
c4tatonic said:
Just had to say hello and a MASSIVE thanks to everyone here. In particular all the guys and or girls who contribute to AndroWook.
I tried to post a thanks in the 2.31 thread in development but as I am classed as a noob I am not permitted to. (I'll go back and click the thanks buttons).
Until today my TF201 was resigned to it's little case, with only the hope of occasional outings when I wanted to occupy and get some down time from my little man. (the joys of being a parent).
I'm no stranger to unlocking, jailbreaking, modding etc, but became tired of manufacturers dropping updates and support for "older" devices. Maybe I got too lazy to research properly. I migrated from iOS and Android to the Win platform, until today! Thanks to xda-dev and the priceless resources and info I have read in the past 6 hours. I now have a revitalized TP TF201 that is going to get used on a daily basis.
So all I need to do now is:
1. Find a new way to distract the boy when he is getting restless.
2. Blow off the cobwebs and get back into the groove of Unix and Linux.
3. Give some valid and useful input back here.
And last but by no means least......
:good::good::good::good::good::good::good:
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You're welcome :good:
Since I am in the same position as c4tatonic, I also like to say that I DO appreciate the work of the people who use their spare time to code ROMs for left-behind devices.
Although some of these may do this just because they can and because it is more interesting than painting by numbers.
Thank you for your effort. No, I haven't decided which ROM to use, but PAC seems to be the one for me. Nightly or Stable? Hrmhrm.
(Didn't want to open another thread for this)
yea really nice to see that some developers still support this device and do a better job in managing the performance issues of this tablet tha asus..... i keep my tf201 till it dies; it does everything i want for a tablet!
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