Hello!
I have this horribly cheap china android phone (it's supposed to be a GalaxyS4 mini - replica, but it looks nothing like it) and I bought it for one single purpose: To have it stolen in case of need. Yeah. At nights when the city over here becomes very very insecure, I keep my main phone hidden, while I bring out my chinaphone to listen to music and to connect to facebook chat (the stand alone app) by connecting to the "Portable wifi hotspot" I activate in my main cellphone.
The thing is, the chinaphone its a piece of crap (it has 256 MB of RAM under android 4.1.2) and while it works fine after it has been rebooted, it tends to go slower and slower, to a point where it does absolutely nothing. I managed to somehow root it (it was a pain, since the rooting tools were in chinese and so is the root app) and I have installed a couple things to "enhance it" which is basically removing the bloatware they put in to make it look like a galaxy s4, live wallpapers and whatnot.And I installed another launcher, Nemus launcher, which is supposed to be one of the most lightweight.
So anyway. I was wondering what "apps" can I safely delete or disable to have a bare-bones device that can connect via wifi, open facebook messenger and play music. Maybe instead of asking what can I delete, I should ask: What should I keep?
Well, I assume you will be using Titanium Backup to remove the applications? Do you have a list you can provide here of the apps that you have?
By the way, while sad that I think it is you have a "in case of robbery phone," I also think that that is an awesome idea ha. Where I live it's not necessary, but i'll keep this idea in mind in case I have to move.
Thank you. Yeah. I have to think ahead of eventualities. I have been robbed before and I sure dont want to lose my current phone, that's why I invested in this piece of hardware that "looks" like it could be my phone, while it's waaaay cheaper.
Anyway. As for apps, here's the list that android reports under apps->all
Acount and sync settings
Advanced task manager pro (i use it to kill everything in emergencies when it all goes crazy slow)
Android Keyboard
Android System
Atrium (im getting rid of this one, I dont really use it)
Bluetooth share (should I delete this one? the bluetooth in this thing is so slow that it's like not having it at all)
BootResSelcet
Browser
Calculator
Calendar
Calendar Storage
Certificat Installer
Clean Master
Clock
com.android.provision
Counter
Download Manager
Downloads
DRM protected Content St... (cant read the rest, off screen)
engineering model
ES File explorer
FlashBarService
Gallery
Google Play Services
Google Play Store
Google Services Framework
HTML viewer
Label
Live Wallpaper Picker
Media Storage
Messenger (facebook)
Music
Nemus Launcher
Network location
NoBloat Free
Package Access Helper
Package installer
Pico TTs
Root Explorer
Search
Search Applications Provider
Settings
Settings Storage
Sound Recorder
Status Bar
Superuser
Swiftkey
Tools
Ultra keyboard
User dictionary
VoiceCycle
VolidationTools (i thought it was "validation" but no, "Volidation")
Im using swiftkey as I love that thing and the whole "Flow input" is great for this phone, considering it is not multitouch, It's "single touch" and if I try to type with the thumbs as in my real phone, it ends all garbled because I type rather fast, and i press keys at the same time; this translated in a single touch device, when I press by accident two keys at the same time, it finds the middle point between my fingers and uses the letter in there, which is really annoying. And typing slow is... well, frustrating for me. With the flow thing, i just swipe and the words come out nicely thanks to the prediction. Problem is, that it also seems to slow down the system to a crawl very very quickly
Any other keyboard that has this function so I can try it?
Does anyone has any experience with Lightning launcher? It claims to be ultra fast, but Im not sure that means it's lightweight with the resources.
You only use this phone for music right? I would remove the launchers and swiftkey, if so.
Or do you use it for more?
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Hey people please tell me your favorite 5 apps. Also let me know your top 5 games; separately. I want to make a video on it.
Thanks
EDIT: Please don't mention the apps which require you to root your phone. Also, please be sure to give a short description of the app you mention!
CWR
SU (root)
TB
everything else is just icing on top
with root:
AndroSS: probably the easiet screenshot application out there, it has the option to use the acceleramtors. IE: shake the phone and take the pic (shake it like a poloroid picture!)
SetCPU: a must have for incredikernal users.
without root:
Dolphin Browser (uses the mozilla source code, each rom i flash that's the first app i re-install)
Pandora
SiriusXM (requires pre-exisisting subscription with SiriusXM Sattelite Radio)
Speedtest.net: going to the webpage in the browser will automaticly re-direct you to the market download link
Launcher Pro
For APPS:
Titanium Backup
Go Launcher EX
Power AMP
Drop Box
Wifi File Explorer
Dolphin Browser
CWR
Drop Box
are the best
Vignette - the best camera App i know
Root Explorer!!
Pulse - Best news reader i found.
Widgetlocker - my lockscreen with everything i need
Explosm! - CYANIDE AND HAPPINESS
CalendarPad Pro - best calendar i found for me.
Opera Browser
sry those where 7, but i cant say only 5 >.<
those are the best apps for me.
but "must have" are apps like setCPU, SU, AdFree, TerminalEmu and so on.
My favourite games are:
PewPew2!!
Spirit
MINECRAFT POCKET EDITION
Shaky Tower
Cut the rope
and maybe Zenonia1-3, but i didnt play them much.. they got boring after a while :/
root explorer
gesture launcher
pandora radio
cpu master
drop box
favorite games...
death worm
brain age
words with friends
fruit ninja
lane splitter
some other great apps that i use, that really could be my top 5 as well (you said 5 so i kept it at 5)... are the following...
cache cleaner NG
my backup pro
screenshot ER
terminal emulator
there are some amazing apps out there... there are other great ones i use, but just cant list them all.
Please tell me applications which do not require you to root your phone. I'm a newb. Also give a brief description of it
Also, please be sure to mention games separately! Thanks. hoping to learn a lot!
lol well like half the apps i use are root apps
hmm.. pandora radio is basically just web streaming radio app, you can Customize and save stations simply by entering 1 word and it will play songs related to your criteria… very amazing app. And it is good at putting songs together that are similar to the criteria you enter.
gesture launcher is probably my favorite... this app is so freaking useful. you basically assign swype gestures to open apps, shortcuts, any function of your phone. there is a little green android that stays on your screen at all times (very small, hardly noticeable) and whenever you are doing something and want to open a particular app or shortcut you just touch that little droid icon then draw your gesture and it opens up immediately. this app redefines "multitasking"
another good one is zedge.. basically a ringtone and wallpaper downloader
drop box does not require root.. it is a wireless file transfer portal from your phone to a computer... try that one out... amazing as well. i use it all the time.
Why not use the Market 'Top' lists. It's more comrehensive and covers a much larger sample group. i.e everybody using Android!
@vs511 : you must try to read a guide about how to root your's devide. You can you many useful app .
My best app (non root)
Astro manager - bluetool.
Advantage task killer.
QQ laucher.
Opera mobile.
AVG antivirus.
apps for me
dialer one
wifi analyzer
opera
titanium backup
opera
If you want top apps you can try different sites like apktop,appbrain,etc they will give detailed info.
i dunno why people write their apps without saying what the apps are for? stupid
FOR ROOT USERS ONLY
Tested on Mega I9200 XXUAMEE
I removed more than 100 system apks, and my Mega works like a charm.
You will notice that the google apks are missing, and that the video player, music player, file manager etc. are missing as well, I removed them because I don't like the way they spy on us and suck our private data (look at the permissions they have if you don't believe me). No worries, just keep on reading for some alternative apks, and some ways to prevent spying...
IMPORTANT
1-Before to start the delete process do a Nandroid back up, and do a back up of your system/app folder (where all the system apks are) in case you want to reinstall a specific apk later.
2-If you decide to uninstall the filemanager apk, install first an alternative file manager, like let's say ghost commander, because if you don't then you won't have any app anymore to navigate to your files after having uninstalled the file manager, pretty obvious.
Same story with the launcher, or you will get a bootloop.
3-After you uninstalled all the apks do a cache and a dalvik cache wipe.
4-Reboot and enjoy full speed and no lags!!!:good:
5-Go to the data/data folder and erase the folders from the removed apks (optional), or use sd maid or whatever similar apk to do it for you.
IMPORTANT 2
Do not mess with system apks if you don't know what you are doing and if you don't know how to get back to the beginning in case things go wrong.
I won't take any responsability for any damage caused to your phone.
All what I mention below has worked for me but once more, do not play with your system unless you know how to recover if things get out of control.
SAFE TO REMOVE APKS
Rather than giving a list of removed apks I will list here the apks I didn't remove, so that you can assume that any apk that is not on the list is safe to remove. I do so because it's faster to list the remaining apks than the removed ones...
So here are the apks I kept (I have to admit that it's a bit extreme, and you are of course not obliged to keep so few apks, but at least you'll know which ones are safe to remove):
-csc
-defaultcontainerservice
-flashbarservice (removable if you don't want to have the static multi windows function. By the way I made a mod to enable floating multi windows that doesn't need the flashbar, you can find it here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48000697#post48000697)
-fusedlocation
-hybrid radio (removable if radio is not your thing)
-jobmanager
-logsprovider
-minimode-res (removable, but I kept it temporarly for testing purposes on the above mentionned floating windows mod)
-packageinstaller
-samsungcamera (removable? It seems that if one removes it then alternative cameras don't work, but I haven't tried them all)
-seccontacts
-seccontactsprovider
-sechtmlviewer (removable and replacable by an alternative html viewer, but since it doesn't spy and since it works well I kept it)
-secphone
-secsettings
-secsettingsprovider
-sectelephonyprovider
-stk
-systemui
-vpndialogs (removable, but then no more vpn)
-wlantest
Note that if you delete mediaprovider you won't be able to change your ringtone and your notification tone anymore (not a big deal for me but I don't know for you), and you will be stucked with the default tones. To change them manually you'll have to open the res/raw folder in framework-res.apk and add your own tones, not a big deal.
ALTERNATIVE APKS
-Launcher:
holo launcher hd, or whatever launcher you like, but install it before you uninstall touch wiz!
-Keyboard (Samsung ime):
I use the modded Xperia keyboard but there are many others.
SMS:
go sms, or any sms apk you like, choices are plentiful.
-Bluetooth:
if you use it for speakers or headphones keep it, but if you use it only to transfer files then uninstall it and use fastfiletransfer (the best, it works without wifi connection) and/or any ftp app (like swiftp for example, but such apps require an active internet connection) instead.
-Video:
mx player or bs player (the two best ones to my opinion) + floating player (basic video player but it boasts a resizable floating window, handy if you want to watch something while doing something else).
-File manager:
ghostcommander (dual panel mode, root browser, customisable toolbar),- or totalcommander.
-Music player:
I like gone mad music player but there are one zillion other options.
-Browser:
opera mini for speed, mozilla firefox for full desktop experience, and dolphin mini for something in the middle. Chrome? No thanks, the least google stuff I have in my phone the better I feel!!!
-Gallery:
quickpic.
-Polaris (pdf reader):
moon reader or mantano.
-Edit documents (doc., docx. etc.):
office suite or kingsoft office.
-Alarm:
any alarm clock apk will do, there are heaps of free ones...
-Google Talk:
lillypad hd.
-Gmail:
any email apk will do, otherwise access gmail from opera mini browser, it's faster.
-Play Store:
aptoide (there are others, see which one fits you the best).
Google Now:
actually you can keep that one if you like it, it's a stand alone apk which means that unlike gmail or gtalk apks it doesn't need the full google framework to work.
-Google maps: maverick (but there are others), google earth (stand alone apk, and not too much on the spy side).
-Clipboard:
clipboard contents.
-Calculator:
aircalc (floating calc).
-Quick Notes:
floating stickies.
-Bonus:
greenify (try it, it hybernates apks and saves juice).
That's all what I can think of for now. You are of course free to ask if you need anything but remember, most stock apks are replaceable and a quick internet search will show you plenty of alternative apks.
Last part, how not to be spied...
Some of the alternative apks I listed above do have abusive permissions, and so have the remaining system apks. To prevent your personal data to be sucked and sent who knows where you need four apks, namely:
1-Rom Toolbox Lite (free) or Pro (paid),
2-Privacy Blocker (paid),
3-AFWall+ (firewall, free),
4-Xprivacy (free).
-First open Privacy Blocker. Scan all your third part apks one by one, and see their dirty little secrets. Then mod the ones you don't like, it's easy, just follow the onscreen instructions.
-Second, open Rom Toolbox. Block adds, prevent any apk from auto starting, disable any transmitter you don't like, and try some build.prop and kernel tweaks if you feel like it (but be careful and do not play with your build.prop and your kernel unless you really know what you are doing).
-Third, set your firewall for wifi, 2/3/4 g, vpn, wlan and roaming with AFWall+.
-Last but not least, install the ultimate protection, Xprivacy:
https://github.com/M66B/XPrivacy
Enjoy!:laugh:
This ROM/Kernel combo is a great one, I must say. I want to share my experiences running it, and maybe somebody has more tips on how to improve even further. Feel free to ask questions as well.
-- some basic info --
The phone is rooted, obviously.
I have a fast 32 GB card and Mounts2SD app, so storage of apps is not an issue in any way.
I use Nova Launcher, Xperia Keyboard (with gestures and two languages), MyAndroidTools for managing apps and services, and Greenify to hibernate some stuff.
I limit background processes to 4 under developer options. Sometimes I kill apps with a long-press of the back button to make room in RAM for the next activity.
-- what to disable --
I'm pretty into Gmail Inbox, but in the end it was too slow to run on the phone. And besides a stupid parking app Inbox was the only app that needed Play Services, so in the end it had to go. You see, Play Services is the main thing that will choke the phone on random occasions. It's got 325 services(!) and counting, so no wonder that it runs amok every now and then. Just cut them away by disabling them in MyAndroidTools.
Play Store is also something that is not a very nice background thing on a low-end phone, so I disable that, too. It's relatively easy to enable temporarily if/when I need to install something.
I have location services disabled. Navigation is therefore a no-go which is kind of a bummer - Google Maps is also Play Services based and won't run on 400 MB RAM anyway, so don't bother. Maybe there are other navigation alternatives around for low-end phones, IDK?
** A note: Play Services and Play Store irritate me as they turn on themselves spontaneously every now and then. Every few days the phone will turn to quicksand and when I diagnose there's always Play Services running again, even though it's disabled in MyAndroidTools. I would really like to have those two be well-behaving citizens **
-- apps --
Shuttle is a nice music player for this phone, I have about 25 GB of music on the card and it manages well.
Mailbox by Dropbox is lean and fast and a fine alternative if it wasn't for the fact that I'm not able to type in more than one word when replying to a mail - bit of limiting for a mail app wouldn't you say?
Twitter, Trello, Slack, Dropbox run fine although I won't run widgets due to RAM limitations.
Business Calendar is my longtime favorite and it works well. I tried upgrading to BC2 but that's not for this phone as far as I could judge (and with no new need-to-have features).
Opera Mini works for me, seems to be pretty conservative on RAM if a limited number of tabs are kept open. Of course, not everything renders optimally, but on the other hand the data savings are great so you can even surf decently on Edge connections, which come in handy sometimes.
The SJB camera works great, as does the FM Radio - and no problems ever with Wifi which I had with the phone on other ROMs previously!
No games. Not my thing. Not on a 3.5" display anyhow.
-- final words --
With the setup described here, this phone is still very much usable. Sure it's not the fastest but hey Zen right? And you won't be able to run any app comfortably, but the abovementioned make my workday more than manageable. Kudos to the ROM and Kernel developers, and to SonyEricsson for a still-great phone in a really pocketable package!
If you removed bloatware from your phone tell me do you see any difference in speed and performance of your phone because I am not really sure is it worth trying. Thank you for replyes!!
bartold3ak said:
If you removed bloatware from your phone tell me do you see any difference in speed and performance of your phone because I am not really sure is it worth trying. Thank you for replyes!!
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AllShare FileShare Service
ANT + DUT
ANT Hal Services
ANT Radio Services
Ant+ Plugin Services
Assistant menu
BeaconManager
Briefing
CarmodeStub
ChocoEuKor
Com.sec.android.app.minimode
CoolEuKor
Diagmonagent
Dictionnaire
Drive
Emergencymanagerservice
Emergencyprovider
Galaxy apps
Galaxy apps widget
Gmail
Google +
Hangouts
Health Service
HwModuleTest
Kies Application BnR
Music
OneDrive
OneNote
RoseEUKor
S Beam
S Finder
S Health
S Voice
Samsung Galaxy
Samsung MirrorLink
Samsung push service
Samsung sbrowser
Samsung setupwizard
Samsung snote
Screen Mirroring
and more..
Hi,
Here is my debloat solution.
DEBLOAT_Script_Samsung_A520F_7.0_Nougat_v1
I use it with TWRP recovery.
More speed or performance doesn't matter for me. But I have more space and better battery.
Anyoine maybe got a "save-list" which Bloatware could be deactivated via package disabler pro? I have no root access (KNOX warranty....) so i could only deactivate.
sincotan said:
Hi,
Here is my debloat solution.
DEBLOAT_Script_Samsung_A520F_7.0_Nougat_v1
I use it with TWRP recovery.
More speed or performance doesn't matter for me. But I have more space and better battery.
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For android M or just for android N sir?
fendytrancers89 said:
For android M or just for android N sir?
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It's not tested on M.
sincotan said:
It's not tested on M.
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Your script includes MM AND N
first thing u need is ROOTED DEVICE.
as far as i know, deleting some of system app will not harm your device. i have tested it with my a3.
i deleted all knox app, all samsung stock app which i dont need, unused google things like hangout, google app itself, google search. u can also delete Galaxy Apps, but when you want to update the app which gave you a notification for an update, u cant.
i deleted it, because i dont need it. many, there are so many useless things from samsung, and im done with it.
for a safe step, u can 'of course' delete :
1. daydream
2.screensaver
3.weather
4.video
5.knox
6.secure folder
7.all samsung healthy apps
8.live wallpaper
9.themes
10.my samsung
11.file explorer
and many.
after i rooted my a3, i deleted almost 200mb bloatware. and it (dont know for sure) doesn't give any differences on speed, performance, or battery life. just faster when u open apps section on phone setting
sm-a520w oreo rooted and cautious debloat
Here's my list. Obviously you will have to make up your own mind as to what you want. I am waiting for hades to be fully functional on my lame "w" variant.
I did twrp, magisk and INSTALLED IN RECOVERY the debloater downloaded from magisk. Still running pretty much everything I used to such as email, playstore and phone/messaging and a game.
Installed a terminal emulator to run the module... called... terminal emulator but was told to try termux. Get Termux if you prefer larger text. Not a power user by any means so both work great for me.
I don't think you will want to uninstall much more than 3 or 4 apps at once. I just knocked off families like the knox clan, facebook clowns but for google i knocked them off in pairs so they could watch themselves get eaten. My first successful root involved titanium and I just went nuts and was not rebooting and by about the 20th app my screen did some neat swirly effect and I think I saw the screen throw files at me. Then I got a message that root was removed. Oh well.
Don't be signed into anything that you're uninstalling might be important. If you're on the W variant you'll notice 2 programs not listed with FIDO in the name. Be careful because I got locked out deleting one or two of those and it probably was also a bad idea having a pin on the lockscreen because that was most likely what I damaged. Luckily I easily fixed it in twrp. Just do the obvious ones first if you are new.
You will see two Sim Services if you go to remove it but I only did one. I picked the first one and left the one underneath it. They will be numbered different on your screen unless you do it in the same order as me, which you won't. So, when I did it they were 66 and 67. I chose 66 and did a reboot. Yeah the other one is on the list in the terminal still, but I don't get the icon anymore anywhere so I was rather pleased and just left it like that for now. It is now seen as sim toolkit in your apps in system view. I don't want to even talk about it in case it hears me and puts an icon in the app drawer.
What did I notice? Phone is definitely a little bit quicker. By a little I mean you may not notice if you use animations. RAM is definitely happy with the weight loss and needs a new wardrobe. It sometimes boots up around 2 but will rest around 1.5 if idle. It never did that before and obviously this device is not being sold and used properly with all this crap on it and when you don't take these measures, well there ain't much room for more crap so might as well get an S9 and abuse that sucker until it runs worse than a device years younger. I will add more as I find out what exactly my plans are and more importantly after fully understanding what I am removing. If you want to follow someone's list that somehow has so much removed it doesn't make sense... it's because they have apps to use in place for what they want. If that is appealing just tell me what app you crashed and burned on and when you're sick of 7 or so fixings grab a custom ROM
Keep lock screen security off and sign out/detach yourself from apps as much as possible. You can delete the keyboard with a current working one but I put it back as the message app lost smiley faces
I use Virgin and deleted their useless crap. Some weird rogers stuff I knew was there but a little old for a recent update...?
Encrypted Sim? I hope not. Do Enterprise SIm/Vpn together and power off. Take out your SIM and power on. I just waited until it was done the 30-60 second warm up and put the SIM back in and carried on. If you don't do this you'll want to do it when the phone reboots and chokes and.... just take it out.
Some apps will downgrade and need to be uninstalled (like they should be) in your apps after reboot and others may linger in the debloater. Just do'em again.
Not the order I did but as it was exported and from 1 and 2 menu options
You can uninstall Dictionary NOT User Dictionary. Settings will not function at all. Instant fc. User Dictionary can be disabled though. I am sure it can be done but other apps not listed here like contacts most likely need to go with it.
Facebook
Facebook_App_Manager
App_Widget
Basic_Daydreams
Briefing
Drive
Gmail
My_Account
My_Benefits
Weather
Weather_Stub
YouTube
CarmodeStub
Default_Print_Service
Duo
Photo_Screensavers
Print_Service_Recommendation_Service
Print_Spooler
RogersNHL_August-2016
videotron-usercentre-plus-2.0-16-stub-release-aligned-final
Texture_rogers
Telus_MyAccount_Virtual_PreLoad_Singed_May10
spotify-generic-20160122-signed
Skype
ChocoEUKor
CoolEUKor
Foundation
RoseEUKor
TV
Samsung_MirrorLink_1.1
Game_Optimizing_Service
Netco-Sports_J5-JDM_Stub_Android_2016-01-22
Netco-Sports_J5-JDQ_Stub_Android_2016-01-22
FidoMyAccount_2.4_build_342
MyBell_Mobile_4.1.2
MyRogers_3.7.2
mySASKTEL_stub_app-release_2017_08_22
Google_Calendar_Sync
Google_Contacts_Sync
Google_Play_Movies
Google_Play_Music
Google_Text-to-speech_Engine
Dual_Messenger
Favourite_Contacts
Dictionary
Android_System_WebView
ANT+_Plugins_Service
ANT_+_DUT
ANT_HAL_Service
SysScope
Link_sharing
EasyOneHand
Autofill_with_Samsung_Pass
Bookmark_Provider
Smart_Switch_Agent
Voice_Assistant
Universal_switch
Beaming_Service
HandwritingService
GearManagerStub
Enterprise_Sim_Pin_Service
Enterprise_VPN_Services
Knox_Enrollment_Service
KnoxAttestationAgent
Android_Easter_Egg
BBCAgent
SecurityLogAgent
slocation
SIM_Toolkit (will be listed first. Never tried both)
Facebook_App_Installer
Facebook_Services
Word
Excel
French_Language_Pack
OneDrive
MShopAndroidPhoneApp-8.9.93.0-jackDaniels-release-releasesigned wtf?
PowerPoint
LinkedIn
Galaxy_Essentials_Widget
Game_Launcher
Game_Tools
Finder
Google
Samsung_Health
Health_Service
upday
Secure_Folder
ANT_Radio_Service
Samsung_Pay
Samsung_Galaxy_Friends I have no idea what this is but uninstalled because of its name
Customization_Service
StoryService
Blue_light_filter
Color_adjustment
FaceService not facebook related and I never used any security or accessibility features so at your own risk.
Fingerprint
HwModuleTest
Magnifier
KLMS_Agent
KnoxCore
KnoxVpnPacProcessor
SKMSAgentService
UIBCVirtualSoftkey
SmartFaceService stupid
Samsung_Pass fail
Work_profile_setup
Voice_Service_Framework
Voice_wake-up good night
Voice_service
Find_My_Mobile just don't lose it. if you need this then sure, lose it
Workspace
This is how i did it unrooted easy!
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Is there a way to debloat it without a script.. maybe an app like package disabler. I upgrade package disabler but it doesnt work anymore. I use oreo stock no root...
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I just helped my mother disabling an awful lot of bloat. Seems like I lost the battery section in Settings along the way. I still think it's worth it to be rid of the whole CM thing. I made a shortcut to the battery optimization via Tasker and I'm now looking to do the same for background processes.
Edit: It appears I disabled com.samsung.android.sm.devicesecurity by mistake. Now I have everything but the ****ty CM app optimizer and can forget about the shortcuts. Perfect!
Now I only have to figure out why I'm getting "All apps associated with this action have been turned off, blocked or not installed"-popup when booting. If it is home screen related it might have something to do with me removing a default app which used to show up in the farthest left slide of the screen. Never paid any attention to it so I'm pretty clueless as to what it may be.
1. Me I have had almost every kind of phone you can think of form early palms, blackberries, Sony Ericsson P900, Nokia N9 (One of my all-time favorites) Surface duo (wanted to love but horrible experience) most of today’s flagships including all the Samsung folds. Got rid of my fold to get the pixel 6 pro mainly because of the camera and I loved it, I had no issues whatsoever. But I didn’t realize how much I would miss the fold and was going to go back to it when Oppo Released the N and it looked like the perfect hardware for me. After much consideration and reading I purchased from a Hong Kong Seller. And have been using for about 3 weeks now. Daily Driver. I absolutely love the phone, the size, the solid feel, great battery life. So far one of my favorite phones, I have used.
2. Once I got the phone, I researched all I could about the small and major quirks.
3. First thing I did was factory reset, the phone once it arrived. (They installed Google Play for me). Wanted to make sure nothing was installed, that I didn’t know about.
4. Easily found and installed the Google Play apk.
5. Next I download Apk Extractor and removed all the Chinese apps, that I could using it. (I didn’t want to use adb commands, fear of removing something needed). All the other leftover Chinese apps I placed in a folder and moved it out the way.
6.The Launcher is no big deal for me, on most of the phones I’ve had, I stuck with the default launcher. (Group text is an issue will discuss that later)
7. Started loading all my apps that I use games, banking etc. (around 250) tested them and everyone of the work. When I got to an app they didn’t display correctly on the open screen, I adjusted through the phone setting no app download.
8. Download new keyboard changed from the Chinese one.
9. Notifications limits, I set my main apps I need notifications from, but what I found was a lot of the social accounts Facebook, etc automatically was added to running in background and notifications and did not go against the limit. All my main apps I set to run in the background and made sure notifications was on and that a sound or vibration was set (the customizations for notifications are a lot) So far, I am notified we notifications come in. because I have a lot of email addresses I use home, work etc. I have always used Blue mail and it only counts as one notification.
10 Group message was a make or break for me, because send and receive a lot of group messages. And I have researched everywhere, tried different apps and no luck. The solution for me and it’s working well.
11. I decided to use Google Voice (I have had a number for years, so I tested it first for couple days) And now has officially ported my number to google voice, I can now get group messages etc. I will keep using until I they update the message issues or swap phone. I saved all my texts using SMS Backup & restore because you can not import the texts into google voice, but you can export them out. I saved all the old text on the new phone using SMS Backup & Restore, because if I need to find an old text it has a search fixture on it.
Conclusion so far, I am very happy with this phone, it’s an amazing piece of work. I know my post was long and for give me if it doesn’t make since. But if you have any questions on my experience just ask and I will do my best to answer.
Me too, this phone Is very good and pleasant to use as a daily driver . I have imaginée this phone before (i used the nec 05e,thé royole
flexpai 1,thé fold1and flold2 and several zflip). A little'more slimmer and lighter would bé perfect...but its ok.
M'y only complaint is about wifi calling with erratic behavior and disconnection ..maynbe a solution will occur..(more accurzte localisation or wiffi setting
i missed...)
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1. Me I have had almost every kind of phone you can think of form early palms, blackberries, Sony Ericsson P900, Nokia N9 (One of my all-time favorites) Surface duo (wanted to love but horrible experience) most of today’s flagships including all the Samsung folds. Got rid of my fold to get the pixel 6 pro mainly because of the camera and I loved it, I had no issues whatsoever. But I didn’t realize how much I would miss the fold and was going to go back to it when Oppo Released the N and it looked like the perfect hardware for me. After much consideration and reading I purchased from a Hong Kong Seller. And have been using for about 3 weeks now. Daily Driver. I absolutely love the phone, the size, the solid feel, great battery life. So far one of my favorite phones, I have used.
2. Once I got the phone, I researched all I could about the small and major quirks.
3. First thing I did was factory reset, the phone once it arrived. (They installed Google Play for me). Wanted to make sure nothing was installed, that I didn’t know about.
4. Easily found and installed the Google Play apk.
5. Next I download Apk Extractor and removed all the Chinese apps, that I could using it. (I didn’t want to use adb commands, fear of removing something needed). All the other leftover Chinese apps I placed in a folder and moved it out the way.
6.The Launcher is no big deal for me, on most of the phones I’ve had, I stuck with the default launcher. (Group text is an issue will discuss that later)
7. Started loading all my apps that I use games, banking etc. (around 250) tested them and everyone of the work. When I got to an app they didn’t display correctly on the open screen, I adjusted through the phone setting no app download.
8. Download new keyboard changed from the Chinese one.
9. Notifications limits, I set my main apps I need notifications from, but what I found was a lot of the social accounts Facebook, etc automatically was added to running in background and notifications and did not go against the limit. All my main apps I set to run in the background and made sure notifications was on and that a sound or vibration was set (the customizations for notifications are a lot) So far, I am notified we notifications come in. because I have a lot of email addresses I use home, work etc. I have always used Blue mail and it only counts as one notification.
10 Group message was a make or break for me, because send and receive a lot of group messages. And I have researched everywhere, tried different apps and no luck. The solution for me and it’s working well.
11. I decided to use Google Voice (I have had a number for years, so I tested it first for couple days) And now has officially ported my number to google voice, I can now get group messages etc. I will keep using until I they update the message issues or swap phone. I saved all my texts using SMS Backup & restore because you can not import the texts into google voice, but you can export them out. I saved all the old text on the new phone using SMS Backup & Restore, because if I need to find an old text it has a search fixture on it.
Conclusion so far, I am very happy with this phone, it’s an amazing piece of work. I know my post was long and for give me if it doesn’t make since. But if you have any questions on my experience just ask and I will do my best to answer.
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Useful info here, thank you very much
Thanks for sharing your experience.
The Nokia N9 was one of the greatest phones ever.
And I too love the Oppo Find N.
After rolling with the Asus Padfone seriess for years (used the first gen Padfone for 1.5 years, and killed 3 new Padfone Infinities after that ). After that I had to switch to "boring" Asus Zenfones (had the 3 and 6)...
But now I finally have a fun and special phone again!
The best foldable ever this phone shifted me from iOS back to Android
To share my experience:
- The phone setup was painful and challenging. Reset, Install Playstore (with a Chinese Keyboard), delete and remove apps, Locale2 but now it feels like a normal phone I always use.
- The 5 apps notification limit is challenging. I use a messenger consolidator (Matrix based) so I only use one app there. You will need one for private and one for office email and I also needed one for the galaxy watch. So I had only one remaining. 2FA or Secure Code apps I normally need to load manually, same as credit card pushes.
- Hardware is amazing. Very solid construction. Guess I need to go caseless as the case adds to much bulk for me. But coming from a flip I feel those phones are unbreakable as long as they are closed. Charging speeds are decent (coming from a flip) and battery is holding more than one day in general.
- Software: There are nearly no apps optimized for big screen use. I miss the Kindle app from my surface allowing me to read a book "normally". Watching filmes is ok but you wont have more screen estate than on a S21Ultra by comparison. Fotos, Web is fantastic though. The OS Software is flawless, e.g. splitting screen with 2 Fingers is perfectly implemented. My hope is on Android 13 which is announced for this device in July, It should allow 3rd party developers to optimize their apps in a standard manner working on all foldables.
Generally: Very happy with this device. Caseless it is a one handed device for me and I use it as my only daily driver (except when near water or sand.)
deepsync said:
To share my experience:
- The phone setup was painful and challenging. Reset, Install Playstore (with a Chinese Keyboard), delete and remove apps, Locale2 but now it feels like a normal phone I always use.
- The 5 apps notification limit is challenging. I use a messenger consolidator (Matrix based) so I only use one app there. You will need one for private and one for office email and I also needed one for the galaxy watch. So I had only one remaining. 2FA or Secure Code apps I normally need to load manually, same as credit card pushes.
- Hardware is amazing. Very solid construction. Guess I need to go caseless as the case adds to much bulk for me. But coming from a flip I feel those phones are unbreakable as long as they are closed. Charging speeds are decent (coming from a flip) and battery is holding more than one day in general.
- Software: There are nearly no apps optimized for big screen use. I miss the Kindle app from my surface allowing me to read a book "normally". Watching filmes is ok but you wont have more screen estate than on a S21Ultra by comparison. Fotos, Web is fantastic though. The OS Software is flawless, e.g. splitting screen with 2 Fingers is perfectly implemented. My hope is on Android 13 which is announced for this device in July, It should allow 3rd party developers to optimize their apps in a standard manner working on all foldables.
Generally: Very happy with this device. Caseless it is a one handed device for me and I use it as my only daily driver (except when near water or sand.)
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Hi,
What is this 'messenger consolidator' you are using please?
Thanks,
Simon.
lombrozo said:
Hi,
What is this 'messenger consolidator' you are using please?
Thanks,
Simon.
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I'm using Beeper. It can consolidate Signal, Telegram, Whatsapp, LinkedIn, iMessage, Twitter, Slack and GoogleChat.
deepsync said:
I'm using Beeper. It can consolidate Signal, Telegram, Whatsapp, LinkedIn, iMessage, Twitter, Slack and GoogleChat.
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Ah ok. Beeper is still invite only I think?
I guess so but you can bypass the queue when prepaying for a whole year...
deepsync said:
I guess so but you can bypass the queue when prepaying for a whole year...
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How do I do that?
Register on the waiting list and email [email protected] or tweet them.
I absolutely love this phone and form factor. It's the perfect size.
I've had a pretty easy time of it thanks to a few posts on here and Gadget goddesses videos as well as my own know how. Maybe it was a little cleaner and easier for me than others since I've been using using google voice since before google bought grandcentral and I'm also on T-mobile.
0. Clone my old LG v60 dual screen over using the phone cloaner this thing came with.
1. changed all my app's notification permissions, battery permissions in app management section to ensure notifications
2. added some important apps that I want guaranteed notifications to the auto launch and recent apps manager sections, but so far even the apps that aren't in autolaunch or recent apps seem to be doing ok on notifications. I use tasker to launch my hotspot automatically when I get in my car and have the car connect to it, so I suppose if I really cared I could use tasker to ensure all my apps stay running and notify me. But so far haven't had to.
3. Under apps, under the "associated launch" the "Blocking records" log to figure out which apps were important to support notifications or proper operation of some apps, and then just activated associated launch to those apps that were blocked from launching(launched by other apps in background). For instance, outlook needed to launch the "company portal" app in the background to properly function and also give me notifications on incoming mail. So I jsut activated associated launch for Company portal. I didn't allow associated launch for all apps, as when I really went through the log, there were only a handful of apps I needed to worry about and would rather the rest not able to just get launched in the background to save juice.
4. I set google voice to prioritize wifi and Data. I get crap signal where I live so this is a must. Basically this has always replaced my voice over wifi anyway on all phones I've used past and present. I like taking calls on my desktop as well.
5. I used "Force LTE" app from the playstore to ensure I got 5g connectivity, although I don't think I really need 5g because even on my old tmobile phone, I noticed in the areas I live 5g is slower than 4g lte anyway. This is a known thing on Tmobiles rollout of 5g in rural areas and I'll probably turn off 5g. I'm just mentioning this to let people know 5g on T-Mobile works fine with this phone.
6. activated google assistant using gestures on the main screen
7. deleted all the chinese apps I could without adb, there's 10 I couldn't delete. I'll probably dump those with adb but it hasn't really been an issue. like everyone else I just stuffed them in a folder and hid it away. Although it seems to be important to at least do the updates in the chinese only app store because one of the updates was to the phones native google services libraries, which is required for a lot of stuff to run correctly including biometric face authentication on some apps.
8. replaced the keyboard like everyone else.
9. Installed Google camera for the heck of it. Gcam
Anyway, I'm not hitting any "quirks" or frustrations. This has been a pretty smooth transition. And again, I just feel this thing is the perfect size for chrome "desktop mode" browsing and reading manga and other reading apps.
I've only found one or two out of more than a hundred apps I use that can't be set to full screen in the display section. I suppose having to rotate the phone for some apps is one quirk I've hit, but it's not a big deal to me.
Anyhow good luck owners, and for those thinking about buying it, I give it a good solid yes.
wagz said:
I absolutely love this phone and form factor. It's the perfect size.
I've had a pretty easy time of it thanks to a few posts on here and Gadget goddesses videos as well as my own know how. Maybe it was a little cleaner and easier for me than others since I've been using using google voice since before google bought grandcentral and I'm also on T-mobile.
0. Clone my old LG v60 dual screen over using the phone cloaner this thing came with.
1. changed all my app's notification permissions, battery permissions in app management section to ensure notifications
2. added some important apps that I want guaranteed notifications to the auto launch and recent apps manager sections, but so far even the apps that aren't in autolaunch or recent apps seem to be doing ok on notifications. I use tasker to launch my hotspot automatically when I get in my car and have the car connect to it, so I suppose if I really cared I could use tasker to ensure all my apps stay running and notify me. But so far haven't had to.
3. Under apps, under the "associated launch" the "Blocking records" log to figure out which apps were important to support notifications or proper operation of some apps, and then just activated associated launch to those apps that were blocked from launching(launched by other apps in background). For instance, outlook needed to launch the "company portal" app in the background to properly function and also give me notifications on incoming mail. So I jsut activated associated launch for Company portal. I didn't allow associated launch for all apps, as when I really went through the log, there were only a handful of apps I needed to worry about and would rather the rest not able to just get launched in the background to save juice.
4. I set google voice to prioritize wifi and Data. I get crap signal where I live so this is a must. Basically this has always replaced my voice over wifi anyway on all phones I've used past and present. I like taking calls on my desktop as well.
5. I used "Force LTE" app from the playstore to ensure I got 5g connectivity, although I don't think I really need 5g because even on my old tmobile phone, I noticed in the areas I live 5g is slower than 4g lte anyway. This is a known thing on Tmobiles rollout of 5g in rural areas and I'll probably turn off 5g. I'm just mentioning this to let people know 5g on T-Mobile works fine with this phone.
6. activated google assistant using gestures on the main screen
7. deleted all the chinese apps I could without adb, there's 10 I couldn't delete. I'll probably dump those with adb but it hasn't really been an issue. like everyone else I just stuffed them in a folder and hid it away. Although it seems to be important to at least do the updates in the chinese only app store because one of the updates was to the phones native google services libraries, which is required for a lot of stuff to run correctly including biometric face authentication on some apps.
8. replaced the keyboard like everyone else.
9. Installed Google camera for the heck of it. Gcam
Anyway, I'm not hitting any "quirks" or frustrations. This has been a pretty smooth transition. And again, I just feel this thing is the perfect size for chrome "desktop mode" browsing and reading manga and other reading apps.
I've only found one or two out of more than a hundred apps I use that can't be set to full screen in the display section. I suppose having to rotate the phone for some apps is one quirk I've hit, but it's not a big deal to me.
Anyhow good luck owners, and for those thinking about buying it, I give it a good solid yes.
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Good experience sharing - For me 5G always runs - no need to force. I use macrodroid to force the main apps into background when starting in the morning - so far it works.
At the end the Oppo Find N is the best foldable hardware - for foldables and for Tablets - Android is not fully there yet, mainly apps are just not yet optimized. Let's hope Android 13 is the basis for app developers to jump on the train...
deepsync said:
Good experience sharing - For me 5G always runs - no need to force. I use macrodroid to force the main apps into background when starting in the morning - so far it works.
At the end the Oppo Find N is the best foldable hardware - for foldables and for Tablets - Android is not fully there yet, mainly apps are just not yet optimized. Let's hope Android 13 is the basis for app developers to jump on the train...
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Yeah, I just use the Force LTE app because it looks like they removed the preferred carrier band preference from settings on the find n. On all my other android phones, under mobile networks, there's usually a setting that allows you to pick which bands you want your phone to use. Like I said, 5g is actually slower for me than 4g, so I need a way to basically shutoff 5g when I'm in my home area. So without that setting on the android settings of the phone, I have to rely on an app like Force LTE. There's a lot of discussion on the interwebs about why 5g ends up being slower in some areas, like rural areas, than 4g. So it's something that will eventually get fixed and I won't have to worry about. But I just mentioned it in case someone needed a replacement for that android setting, not that people need it.
I've been using a Find N for about 2 months. I set up mine much like other people on this thread . Background on for almost all apps, auto-launch for main messaging apps, Google keyboard, Google assistant, GPay, default launcher, GCam/default Cam, Brave/Samsung Internet, Gmail/Outlook. I set up apps as full screen or 4:3 if they open sideways (still good to use). For social apps I use regular apps and WebApps too because the WebApps take full advantage of the big display (Instagram, Twitter and Instagram).
I've been playing games on emulators for the past 2-3 weeks (Switch and GameCube) and noticed yesterday that the screen protector on the big display has tiny marks (probably fingernails?). Is it ok to remove the factory screen protector and apply a new one? The marks are tiny and only on the "joystick area" so they don't bother me but I'm gonna eventually sell this in the future and may consider replacing the screen protector.