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First of all I would like to apologize if you have heard these questions a thousand times before, but I have done a fair amount of reading and haven't gotten enough concrete answers to be confident enough to continue.
I just got up the courage to root my Fascinate after over a year of having it by following droidstyle's excellent guide. It was very painless and worked first shot, so no worries there. Now I'm at the point of what to do next... I have already frozen the bloatware and looked into some 'root-friendly' apps but I'm not sure where to go from here. I think I've decided I want to get the most out of this thing as I'm not due for an upgrade for (what seems like) a long time. I'm under the impression that installing a good ICS rom is the way to go but I just have a few noob questions before I continue.
1) From what I have been reading Glitched AOKP ICS is the best rom to use currently on the Fascinate, correct? Also quick question, regarding the link to download it... is the current version the build 34 one or the milestone 5 one at the top?
2) Rooting my phone initially didn't erase any of my apps or data. What will installing an ICS rom erase, if anything? I will make backups of course, but I'm just wondering what to expect. Will the 'bloatware' apps still be there or will installing ICS install new system apps?
3) What market apps should I consider 'must haves' to tweak stuff? I already bought setcpu but haven't invested in anything else yet.
4) I plan to follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide but need clarification... even though I have rooted stock 2.3, I should still follow all steps right?
Thank you for listening to my noob questions and thanks to anyone who can offer advice. I have been building and working on computers for years but this cell phone hacking stuff is all new to me (obviously).
Crawshayi said:
First of all I would like to apologize if you have heard these questions a thousand times before, but I have done a fair amount of reading and haven't gotten enough concrete answers to be confident enough to continue.
I just got up the courage to root my Fascinate after over a year of having it by following droidstyle's excellent guide. It was very painless and worked first shot, so no worries there. Now I'm at the point of what to do next... I have already frozen the bloatware and looked into some 'root-friendly' apps but I'm not sure where to go from here. I think I've decided I want to get the most out of this thing as I'm not due for an upgrade for (what seems like) a long time. I'm under the impression that installing a good ICS rom is the way to go but I just have a few noob questions before I continue.
1) From what I have been reading Glitched AOKP ICS is the best rom to use currently on the Fascinate, correct? Also quick question, regarding the link to download it... is the current version the build 34 one or the milestone 5 one at the top?
2) Rooting my phone initially didn't erase any of my apps or data. What will installing an ICS rom erase, if anything? I will make backups of course, but I'm just wondering what to expect. Will the 'bloatware' apps still be there or will installing ICS install new system apps?
3) What market apps should I consider 'must haves' to tweak stuff? I already bought setcpu but haven't invested in anything else yet.
4) I plan to follow section 4 of droidstyle's guide but need clarification... even though I have rooted stock 2.3, I should still follow all steps right?
Thank you for listening to my noob questions and thanks to anyone who can offer advice. I have been building and working on computers for years but this cell phone hacking stuff is all new to me (obviously).
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1) M5 is newest. Get glitched build off of the exynos server.
2) Complete wipe. A desktop equivalent would be formatting your hard drive with Windows Vista installed and doing a fresh install of windows 7.
Backup all data and contacts locally or on the cloud. Do NOT use Verizon to backup your contact data. Use Google or a local backup instead.
No bloatware will be present since custom roms do not come from the carrier.
3) NSTools. Maybe Root Explorer or wi-fi tether for google
4) Just follow the guide. Rooting doesn't have much to do with recovery and intalling ics and such.
Not to knock ICS, because I love AOKP, but you could also consider working your way there over time. I had a lot of fun playing with different Touchwiz ROMs like SC3 and TSM Res. You may even find one along the way that you want to stick with for a while. At the very least, you'll learn to get where a complete data wipe doesn't even slow you down.
There's so much good stuff still available for this phone. My phone is sheer perfections right now, but I still have plans to try out GeeWiz and MIUI.
Everyone knows the current destination is Glitched AOKP, but the fun is in the journey.
I agree. I would download everything rom,kernel, and app you can find for the phone between here and rootzwiki, just in case links go dead. Tsm res and awesome sauce are two very good roms that I had a ton of fun with. They are more forgiving to the new user as far as making mistakes goes. Couple of things to know before you continue are that you can use the three finger method to get into recovery on touchwiz roms but not the ics roms(must enter recovery through power off menu). You also cant just flash back and forth from touchwiz roms and cm7 or ics roms, as you have to follow certain steps
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Well I was planning on jumping right into ICS as it looks amazing and I don't think I want to wait... however I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of trying different roms later on down the road. Is it going to be a pain to go backwards from ICS, or just flash like usual? Also, to those that have tried most of the 'good' roms, what would you consider your top 3 non-ICS?
Also on the subject of backing up my apps... I have been using Mybackup as it seems the most simplistic to use and reliable. Will my apps be exactly as they were when I backed them up (after switching to ICS) or is it just better to re-download what I need and configure them again?
I hate to spam some more questions but I figure since I already am... just a few more...
I haven't really messed with Setcpu that much, but is it bad to have it at 100/1000 or should I keep the max lower than that? And last one... what's the best wifi tether to use so Verizon won't send their goons after me? Is the USB tether from clockwork mod any good?
Thanks to all of you for your input. I think I'll be attempting to flash to ICS tomorrow night and hopefully all goes well.
You can go from touchwiz roms to isc roms by flashing but you need to do a lot more using the computer to go backwards. It will make more sense once you have a better understanding. Use titanium backup to backup your apps. If you really dont have any then just redownload them. If you are on the touchwiz roms you can use setcpu, but for ics roms you are going to be using an app called nstools or from control (built into settings section of rom). Again, more of this will make sense later down the road that is why I figured it would be better to start on a from like tsm Res or awesome sauslce
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Well I'm still on the fence here on what to do. I really want to run ICS but with all the little glitches I've read about I think maybe I'll try some of the better GB roms first... I think TSM Res looks top for me with the features, but I might try more than just 1. I've heard not to restore data backups when going ICS... does this apply to GB roms as well? Should I also switch the radio or is what I have the same as the GB one? Thanks
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Well I'm still on the fence here on what to do. I really want to run ICS but with all the little glitches I've read about I think maybe I'll try some of the better GB roms first... I think TSM Res looks top for me with the features, but I might try more than just 1. I've heard not to restore data backups when going ICS... does this apply to GB roms as well? Should I also switch the radio or is what I have the same as the GB one? Thanks
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AOKP milestone 5. You WILL thank me for it. Make sure its Steve's glitchy (the kernel of course) build.
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mezster said:
AOKP milestone 5. You WILL thank me for it. Make sure its Steve's glitchy (the kernel of course) build.
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You don't like the one they just released a few days ago?
Crawshayi said:
You don't like the one they just released a few days ago?
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That is a nightly and has a minor bug where apps on SD card force close. No biggie for more experienced users who know its a nightly and can deal. Nightlies are bleeding edge releases and as such can contain a bug or two. Milestones are stable releases to be used as a reliable daily driver if one is needed (some do). I recommend the m5 release since it is a milestone and you are new to this. I also want to see you have the best experience possible.
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I'm in a similar spot. I put CM7 on my wife's phone a while ago, but she has downloaded so much crap on it it's running like garbage and crashing.
Does the AOKP M5 have any bugs I should be aware of? As long as it's working well and everything is working (WiFi, Camera, MMS, etc), she'll be fine with it as a daily driver.
Two other questions I have.
Where can I get the correct glitchy Kernel?
Do I just need to download the ROM and kernel, wipe data/cache, then flash the ROM then kernel, then gapps (in that order) in Clockwork Recovery? Anything else?
She really likes the ICS stuff I've been showing her on my Rezound, especially the speech to text typing.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Added Information:
Just to make sure my i's are dotted and my t's are crossed--
Build for Verizon Fascinate:
http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/milestone-5-r20
fascinatemtd Samsung Fascinate
Glitch Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459475
Are those right?
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Should I update radios as well? (Assuming yes since going to AOKP from CM7). Which ones should I do? Again, is this a simple flash in CWR? What's the install sequence?
Thanks.
EtherBoo said:
I'm in a similar spot. I put CM7 on my wife's phone a while ago, but she has downloaded so much crap on it it's running like garbage and crashing.
Does the AOKP M5 have any bugs I should be aware of? As long as it's working well and everything is working (WiFi, Camera, MMS, etc), she'll be fine with it as a daily driver.
Two other questions I have.
Where can I get the correct glitchy Kernel?
Do I just need to download the ROM and kernel, wipe data/cache, then flash the ROM then kernel, then gapps (in that order) in Clockwork Recovery? Anything else?
She really likes the ICS stuff I've been showing her on my Rezound, especially the speech to text typing.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Added Information:
Just to make sure my i's are dotted and my t's are crossed--
Build for Verizon Fascinate:
http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/milestone-5-r20
fascinatemtd Samsung Fascinate
Glitch Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459475
Are those right?
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Should I update radios as well? (Assuming yes since going to AOKP from CM7). Which ones should I do? Again, is this a simple flash in CWR? What's the install sequence?
Thanks.
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Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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Might sound like a cheesy question, but what radios are you running?
Thanks for your help.
jbreakfield said:
Get the Milestone 5 Glitched build found HERE
It includes the Glitch kernel, so no need to flash separately, and also has a few extra cherry picks thrown in. This is a Milestone build, so no real bugs, should run smooth as silk.
I'm not sure of the recommended radio for fascinate on ICS.
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QFT.
Get the Glitched build as it has fixes, extra available RAM, and much more not available in the AOKP official build.
Wifi, cam, and MMS all work fine. I can't honestly think of anything not working off the top of my head. NovaLauncher (Regular is free, Prime is $4 and well worth it for gestures) is recommended at this point since Apex has gotten a little slow.
Radio is recommended to be EH03 though I think ec09 and anything newer than eh03 work fine. I am running EH03 and no complaints.
I think I remember reading something about torch not working in ICS... is that the type of app that turns on the LED? Believe it or not I use that a lot and it would be a pain if it didn't work when I switch.
Also, is there any way to check what radio you're currently using before flashing? Tried looking that up but couldn't find it
Ah yes...torch doesn't work but you can use the tiny flashlight app to turn on the flash and achieve the same functionality.
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Ah yes...torch doesn't work but you can use the tiny flashlight app to turn on the flash and achieve the same functionality.
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The Tiny Flashlight + LED app? That's actually what I'm using now and if that works then I'm all set... I thought when people said 'torch' they just meant any app that turns on the LED
I flashed and ran into 1 problem. I had to flash Team Hacksungs Build 2 ROM first. Flashing glitched put me in an endless boot. Then I couldn't boot to recovery. I really was flipping out.
I had to Odin a new recovery in, wipe, then flash Team Hacksungs Build 2 ROM. For some reason, it booted into AOKP (?) then. I went back to recovery, wiped, reflashed AOKP and got it working.
I haven't searched yet, but anyone know where I can change the boot screen? It's really not a "wife friendly" boot screen.
As I understand it, torch refers to the built in flashlight feature in aokp called torch. Tiny flashlight plus the widget give similar functionality.
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I am kind of confused and not sure what to do now. I have rooted my Razr Max but I am a little timid and haven't jumped off the cliff yet into the world of Custom Roms.
I don't understand the difference between ICS and GB. I figure that they are like the OS of the phone (as in WIN XP or WIN 7 is for a computer).
I also don't understand why I would want to change to a ROM that has issues (i.e. front facing camera or video camera doesn't work).
I am looking for something simple to change the look and feel of my phone until I get some experience under my belt. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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I am kind of confused and not sure what to do now. I have rooted my Razr Max but I am a little timid and haven't jumped off the cliff yet into the world of Custom Roms.
I don't understand the difference between ICS and GB. I figure that they are like the OS of the phone (as in WIN XP or WIN 7 is for a computer).
I also don't understand why I would want to change to a ROM that has issues (i.e. front facing camera or video camera doesn't work).
I am looking for something simple to change the look and feel of my phone until I get some experience under my belt. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Roms give extras and a less bogged down system (debloated) which means all the useless apps are gone, I'm currently running eclipse because the custom roms that run ics have data issues since their a newer version of the os running on a older kernel. For a rom your going to want safe strap, there's usually install instructions on the first post of all roms.
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prsterero said:
Roms give extras and a less bogged down system (debloated) which means all the useless apps are gone, I'm currently running eclipse because the custom roms that run ics have data issues since their a newer version of the os running on a older kernel. For a rom your going to want safe strap, there's usually install instructions on the first post of all roms.
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So in you opinion eclipse would be a good Tom to check out for a first time flash. If I understand correctly eclipse is a gingerbread product. Is that right? So is gingerbread better than ICS? Have you ever tried CM9 or MIMU? (I might have spelled it wrong.)
There are a lot of options out there. READ, READ, READ. ASK QUESTIONS!!!! Pm me with any you have and I will do my best to help you out.
The one thing I can say is until you understand what you are found, stay away from leaks. Some you cannot return from. My best advice from the start is learn in this order:
1. Learn to use rsd lite and get the files to fast boot back to .173 or.181 so you can recover if anything goes wrong.
2. Look at the features of the available roms and pick one that appeals to you.
3. Research whether cwm or safe strap work better with the rom.
4. Rinse and repeat.
Just remember, read and ask questions and you will be fine.
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You're correct: Gingerbread and Ice Cream Sandwich are code names for different major versions of Android.
A ROM (not really a ROM, but that's another discussion) is based on a stock release, and modified to get rid of trash like the Blockbuster app, make performance changes, and generally provide a better experience.
For best results, you should use ROMs (grr) that are based on the same vendor release of Android as what you currently use. For 6.12.173 (aka 173), or 181, the Eclipse ROM (grr) works better than stock.
However, if all you want to do is explore different look/feel settings, try some of the free "launcher" apps on Google Play eg, "Go Launcher Ex", "ADW Launcher", "Launcher Pro". These will dramatically change the look/feel of your device, with no risk at all (aside from a lot of time spent re-re-re-laying out the icons).
Enjoy
First, an explanation of my situation:
I bought a Galaxy Note at the beginning of the summer. All-in-all, I was pretty happy with it. It was a much improved experience over my Atrix, which was in poor condition by the time I switched over.
I wasn't able to root at first as I only had access to a Mac, and there were innumerable issues in doing so - Odin was PC only, WINE ports of it failed to recognize the phone, the Mac equivalent of Odin (I am spacing on its name right now) didn't work with the Note, etc.
When ICS was officially released, I tried to update to it via Kies. Kies on Mac is a ****storm. It's incredibly buggy, toolbars and menus don't display correctly, it has trouble recognizing the device, etc. I was unable to get it to make a backup, but I eventually managed to load the ROM onto it...
... and that's when the real problems started.
My battery life has turned to crap. Everything runs incredibly slow. Everything's super buggy. Apps force-close all the time. My MicroSD card ended up getting corrupted - half of my music disappeared, of what was left only 1/3rd actually worked. I just reformatted my MicroSD, backing everything important up, etc.
I've been dealing with this for around a month now, as whenever I come to the forum I have no idea where to even start to fix this. I'm up for wiping everything and starting over, and I do have access to a Windows XP machine now so that may be easier... but I don't even know where to go from there.
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That's why I'm here - I need advice. I need advice as to how to clean up the current mess my phone has turned into and start over. I need advice as to what ROM to try and how to go about loading it. I need advice as to whether to root and how to do so. I need advice as to whether to install a CWM, which one to use and how to go about doing so.
Here is what I am looking for, ordered from most important to least:
Battery life is important to me. I loved how long the battery lasted before my attempted upgrade to ICS... now it lasts maybe 1/3 of the time.
I want something that will work - I want stability. No more constant force-quits of every freaking app.
A smooth, fast UI would be preferable.
Feature packed. I like the thought of cutting edge features of newer (or custom) versions of Android being incorporated - but this is far less important to me than battery life and stability.
My preferred method of installation would be using my Mac - but as I said, Windows XP is a very easy option for me as well. I could also install a newer version of Windows if need be, but would prefer not to go through that...
Thanks in advance for any help, advice and recommendations! ^_^
Get Odin and root your phone...
Download and flash TWRP... http://teamw.in/project/twrp
download a ROM of your choice
boot into the recovery ..wipe--->>cache/dalvik cache/ wipe ROM/factory reset..>then go to the install and flash your ROM...
These are very rudimentary instructions I hope they helped a bit...good luck
Do you have an idea for what ROM you like or want? Couple of great ROMs..for stockish check out flappjaxxx's for jellybean check out manelscout4life..stable and fast
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Techno is onto the correct answer, unless of course you are truly wanting the stock version back.
Kies and OTA updates are often flawed, and give the end user exactly the type of problems you are stating.
However, if you want a return to stock, the information can be found in the "note super everything thread" located as a sticky at the top of the general note section.
But I do agree with techno, that a root and flash of a quality custom rom is the way to go......g
Thanks a lot, both of you!
As to what ROM I want, honestly that's one of the reasons I have been procrastinating so much -- I have no idea whatsoever. There's such an overwhelming number of options out there, of basic flavors (ICS, JB, GB, CM7, etc.) and tens of derivatives of each one made by different people. I have no idea where to even start making such a decision.
I can tell you this much. On my Atrix, I started with the stock Motoblur-Froyo, flashed GingerBlur, disliked it's bugginess but dealt with it for almost a year, then flashed the CM7-based Neutrino. I wasn't very happy with how skimpy the ROM was but stuck with it until I got my Note. I was pretty satiated with the stock ROM, but decided to upgrade to ICS due to the promise of a better UI, increased functionality and especially a faster camera. While my experience with ICS was terrible, I could see myself enjoying a functional, non-buggy version...
Basically, I have no idea what ROM or even what base OS version I am looking for. That said, I do know the criteria that matter to me, as stated prior:
Battery Life
Stability
Smooth UI
Cutting-Edge Feature Packed
I can't really think of any features I am specifically looking for, other than under-the-radar tethering and top-notch camera speed & functionality .
As I have no attachment to any specific OS version, suppose that would mean that if battery life, stability and smoothness issues are equal amongst ROM variants, I would be looking for a Jellybean ROM - as it would be most packed with new features... right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
That is the best stockish ICS experience you can get and keeps all the functionality of your phone including the spen. He also offers a jellybean ROM but honestly to find the best JB rom for you just read through the threads read and REREAD THE OP of those ROMs..jellybean is fun and cool but not 101% stable yet..people still getting random reboots and some are losing there APN settings..so maybe just flashing ics and playing with those ROMs is best for you for now..FYI the above rom is smooth as silk and great battery life
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Again , I agree with Techno, and the rom he posted is the one I'm using to type this.
Flappjaxxx is a fine developer, and he has packed this UCLF6 build with full functionality , and much more.
He is , and will continue to be my top pick for quality builds and performance ...g
This is all really wonderful advice - thanks again!
I guess I have a few last questions:
What is the best way to root at this point? If I recall, there are multiple ways to root via Odin... is there a specific one you would recommend for my current situation (read: current buggy ICS firmware)? A link would be very much appreciated, as the roadmap thread is a bit... overwhelming with all of the options.
Are there any MODs you recommend I install after I have my new flappjaxxx ROM in place? Will tethering work off the bat? Will all of the Gapps (Gmail, Navigation, etc.) be there for me to use? Will I need to install anything else, or is there any recommendations that you have?
Thanks again a ton - you've both been enormously helpful!
Also, I just noticed that the recovery you linked me to (http://teamw.in/project/twrp) has no option for the Galaxy Note...
EDIT: It turns out you linked me to the wrong page - to TWPR 1. Here's the link to TWRP 2.2, for anyone else who comes across this thread: http://teamw.in/project/twrp2
Just my 2 cents. After you get straightened out, you may want to take a look here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29376779
Another stable rom with great battery life, and a super Dev a well. I have been running it since testing and find it to be the perfect rom and team for me.
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Okay ....
Please verify your carrier ....model ...and current software version ....then we can point you to the correct bits and pieces of the super thread.
I just want to make sure we are all on the same page ....g
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I'm away for a few hours ...
But I'm sure a few other helpful folks will chime in with the links ...g
phnord said:
Thanks a lot, both of you!
As to what ROM I want, honestly that's one of the reasons I have been procrastinating so much -- I have no idea whatsoever. There's such an overwhelming number of options out there, of basic flavors (ICS, JB, GB, CM7, etc.) and tens of derivatives of each one made by different people. I have no idea where to even start making such a decision.
I can tell you this much. On my Atrix, I started with the stock Motoblur-Froyo, flashed GingerBlur, disliked it's bugginess but dealt with it for almost a year, then flashed the CM7-based Neutrino. I wasn't very happy with how skimpy the ROM was but stuck with it until I got my Note. I was pretty satiated with the stock ROM, but decided to upgrade to ICS due to the promise of a better UI, increased functionality and especially a faster camera. While my experience with ICS was terrible, I could see myself enjoying a functional, non-buggy version...
Basically, I have no idea what ROM or even what base OS version I am looking for. That said, I do know the criteria that matter to me, as stated prior:
Battery Life
Stability
Smooth UI
Cutting-Edge Feature Packed
I can't really think of any features I am specifically looking for, other than under-the-radar tethering and top-notch camera speed & functionality .
As I have no attachment to any specific OS version, suppose that would mean that if battery life, stability and smoothness issues are equal amongst ROM variants, I would be looking for a Jellybean ROM - as it would be most packed with new features... right?
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Im using black star v flawless in my eyes..
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Hello Guys!
I am a little sick of all these custom roms that claim to be stable but have memory leaks and what not. rebooting my phone every day because my ram is getting low and I cant run navigation + spotify is a little bit too G1 for my taste. I didn't get THE top of the notch phone to have to decide wether to listen to music or get where i want in my car because the ram is too low.
So I wanna go back to kinda-stock but still keep root because it's needed for LBE privacy guard, my most beloved app to keep those private information suckkers away from my stuff.
I wanted to unroot, go back to stock and then root again, but for some reason Odin doesn't recognize my phone. Yes, drivers are installed but it just doesn't find it. might be a problem with win8+64bit or whatever, point is Odin ain't on the table anymore.
Now i figured, just get a custom rom that is based on the stock-rom but keeps my root. However all the devs are so trying to get JB to the ppl that there are barely any good solid roms left with "just" ICS. No offense, i love all the work the devs put in there to get JB running without the neccessary codework form samsung but it's nothing for me anymore. I wanna have a phone to do my everyday bidding with and if i feel like messing around with custom stuff I'll get my dev phone out of the drawer again.
So point of the story is, has anyone a rom in mind, that is based on stock + root and close to no changes after that? Would be greatly appreciated!
Use mobile odin to flash original firmware. It will keep your phone rooted.
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Keks1234 said:
Hello Guys!
I am a little sick of all these custom roms that claim to be stable but have memory leaks and what not. rebooting my phone every day because my ram is getting low and I cant run navigation + spotify is a little bit too G1 for my taste. I didn't get THE top of the notch phone to have to decide wether to listen to music or get where i want in my car because the ram is too low.
So I wanna go back to kinda-stock but still keep root because it's needed for LBE privacy guard, my most beloved app to keep those private information suckkers away from my stuff.
I wanted to unroot, go back to stock and then root again, but for some reason Odin doesn't recognize my phone. Yes, drivers are installed but it just doesn't find it. might be a problem with win8+64bit or whatever, point is Odin ain't on the table anymore.
Now i figured, just get a custom rom that is based on the stock-rom but keeps my root. However all the devs are so trying to get JB to the ppl that there are barely any good solid roms left with "just" ICS. No offense, i love all the work the devs put in there to get JB running without the neccessary codework form samsung but it's nothing for me anymore. I wanna have a phone to do my everyday bidding with and if i feel like messing around with custom stuff I'll get my dev phone out of the drawer again.
So point of the story is, has anyone a rom in mind, that is based on stock + root and close to no changes after that? Would be greatly appreciated!
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I know i am biased because it is my ROM, however i believe for my ROM to be stable and so far all of my users are happy with it
Maybe give it a try and see what you think , also the memory leak exists in all STOCK BASED Sammy ROMS
However i have built a fix into my ROM that i believe doesnt completely get rid of it however i think it works quite well .
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Arsaw said:
Use mobile odin to flash original firmware. It will keep your phone rooted.
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agree
once you've used mobile you'll never used desktop odin again. chainfire is legend
remember to download both files though for mobile odin the apk plus the apk specific for our phone.
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I know i am biased because it is my ROM, however i believe for my ROM to be stable and so far all of my users are happy with it
Maybe give it a try and see what you think , also the memory leak exists in all STOCK BASED Sammy ROMS
However i have built a fix into my ROM that i believe doesnt completely get rid of it however i think it works quite well .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811155
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How does this happen anyways, i mean why would there be a leak even with the stock based roms? is there a leak even with the stock one? because i never notices these behaviors before i switched to jelly bean. You're a dev so you probably know more than i am. all i do is mobile business app dev with js&html5, so i am not that deep into android and what makes it work the way it does.
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How does this happen anyways, i mean why would there be a leak even with the stock based roms? is there a leak even with the stock one? because i never notices these behaviors before i switched to jelly bean. You're a dev so you probably know more than i am. all i do is mobile business app dev with js&html5, so i am not that deep into android and what makes it work the way it does.
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This memory leak is mainly caused by the kies Applications that is running in the background on the phone. I have got a part of my flashing process that moves this process to another location therefore preventing it from starting and this has resolved the problems or mostly resolved the problems.
If i was you i would give my rom a try and see what you think
**** i just lost all my files on my internalSDcard -.- including all my easyMoney backups with all my transactionhistory. that really pisses me off...well at least odin mobile is good
Keks1234 said:
**** i just lost all my files on my internalSDcard -.- including all my easyMoney backups with all my transactionhistory. that really pisses me off...well at least odin mobile is good
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My rom shoukdnt wipe your internal memory card and in relation to yoyr apps use titanium backup and the restore again once on the new rom
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also the memory leak exists in all STOCK BASED Sammy ROMS
However i have built a fix into my ROM that i believe doesnt completely get rid of it however i think it works quite well .
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Not true at all, the memory leak is only present in aosp based ROMs, NOT stock Sammy ROMs.
That kiesexe or whatever in system/bin/ is not causing memory leaks, it is just using some ram, not using it all up such as a memory leak is described.
@OP stock sammy ROMs are just fine, even the latest JB leak is great, XXDLI5, I've been using it as a daily driver since it came out and I have no problems.
Use mobile Odin to flash whatever firmware you want, it will even keep your root.
"It's all in the game yo, all in the game..." - Omar Little
Keks1234 said:
Hello Guys!
I am a little sick of all these custom roms that claim to be stable but have memory leaks and what not. rebooting my phone every day because my ram is getting low and I cant run navigation + spotify is a little bit too G1 for my taste. I didn't get THE top of the notch phone to have to decide wether to listen to music or get where i want in my car because the ram is too low.
So I wanna go back to kinda-stock but still keep root because it's needed for LBE privacy guard, my most beloved app to keep those private information suckkers away from my stuff.
I wanted to unroot, go back to stock and then root again, but for some reason Odin doesn't recognize my phone. Yes, drivers are installed but it just doesn't find it. might be a problem with win8+64bit or whatever, point is Odin ain't on the table anymore.
Now i figured, just get a custom rom that is based on the stock-rom but keeps my root. However all the devs are so trying to get JB to the ppl that there are barely any good solid roms left with "just" ICS. No offense, i love all the work the devs put in there to get JB running without the neccessary codework form samsung but it's nothing for me anymore. I wanna have a phone to do my everyday bidding with and if i feel like messing around with custom stuff I'll get my dev phone out of the drawer again.
So point of the story is, has anyone a rom in mind, that is based on stock + root and close to no changes after that? Would be greatly appreciated!
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Sammy base, stable, Jelly bean, no lagg to date.
I have got ca. 350 apps from Google Play, and yet another ca. 200 system, they all work as if they were stock, no lagg, no great loading times, works brilliant (Except for Facebook, but that's a known problem...)
Give it a shot, you'll like it, if you want stock!
I bought my wife a Nook tablet 16g for Christmas (certified preowned) the stock ROM on the device is useless, aside from no access to google play interaction with the touchscreen is choppy and laggy, and sometimes you have to select items three times before they are selected, is this normal for a stock B&N tab?
I've spent the last three days scowering this forum gathering information, so far all I've done is loaded CM7 from this thread to SD card only, modifying it a bit to just do CM7. I chose CM7 because I figured it being an older ROM it would have most hardware working correctly and be the least buggy. Needless to say the device works great with this ROM none of the issues I experienced with the stock B&N ROM existed (great job devs. much appreciated) the only thing that struck me as odd with this ROM was it didn't seem optimized for a tablet and certainly not this tablet, as all the stock phone apps were still there, as well as camera and bluetooth. Is there a ROM out there that's more suited for the nook tablet is my next question, and can all these ROMs be put on SD card and booted from there rather than altering the internal software.
Next question is can the stock ROM be altered to make it usable? Rooting obviously, maybe a different kernel so things function smoothly, adding google play. This tablet is for my wife who is not very tech savy so the more simple I can make the device to use the better.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions that can be provided, this is only the second device I've worked with, the first being me and my wife's Samsung Infuse, so the more detailed the help the better, I am literate and not opposed to reading so good links to learning resources would be great, however I would like answers to my few questions.
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I've spent the last three days scowering this forum gathering information, so far all I've done is loaded CM7 from this thread to SD card only, modifying it a bit to just do CM7. I chose CM7 because I figured it being an older ROM it would have most hardware working correctly and be the least buggy. Needless to say the device works great with this ROM none of the issues I experienced with the stock B&N ROM existed (great job devs. much appreciated) the only thing that struck me as odd with this ROM was it didn't seem optimized for a tablet and certainly not this tablet, as all the stock phone apps were still there, as well as camera and bluetooth. Is there a ROM out there that's more suited for the nook tablet is my next question, and can all these ROMs be put on SD card and booted from there rather than altering the internal software.
Next question is can the stock ROM be altered to make it usable? Rooting obviously, maybe a different kernel so things function smoothly, adding google play. This tablet is for my wife who is not very tech savy so the more simple I can make the device to use the better.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions that can be provided, this is only the second device I've worked with, the first being me and my wife's Samsung Infuse, so the more detailed the help the better, I am literate and not opposed to reading so good links to learning resources would be great, however I would like answers to my few questions.
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I find rooted stock to be just marginally better than stock: many newer apps are not backward compatible with Android Gingerbread release (which stock ROM (as well as CM7) is based on), the co-habiting of the stock and CM10 interfaces quite awkward.
I'd suggest you first try running CM10 off an SD card, that way you can conveniently switch back and forth to stock and compare them, and flash it if you decide you like it.
And cm10 is well optimized for the tablet. Cm7 did seem to have the extra phone rudimentary stuff, but remember it was the first custom rom on the NT. Since then, the other roms are quite polished.
Excellent info thanks a lot guys I'm going to load a SD with CM10 and let my wife give it a whirl.
Is a class 10 micro SD too fast for this tablet? I thought in my reading I came across something about class 10 SD's being problematic, I may have mis-read though.
I just realized the thread I said I used to get the CM7 SD boot image, wasn't the one I actually used, so I though I already had an SD bootable .img of CM10 JB, but I guess I don't. What is the most problem free SD bootable version of CM10 JB (link if possible)? I really don't want to modify the internal storage of the unit till I'm 100% sure everything works good on the unit and I find the best ROM for it (which sounds like CM10 JB)
I don't have much to compare with, but I used this more or less fool proof guide: http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
I ran the 1208 build from sd until a few days ago when I put it internally. I can't say I noticed any improvements running it internally compared to from sd so it's really good option in my opinion. (My Tablet har no problem booting from sd-card. Others have more problem and for those internal is a better choice.)
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I don't have much to compare with, but I used this more or less fool proof guide: http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
I ran the 1208 build from sd until a few days ago when I put it internally. I can't say I noticed any improvements running it internally compared to from sd so it's really good option in my opinion. (My Tablet har no problem booting from sd-card. Others have more problem and for those internal is a better choice.)
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Thank you so much, just what i was looking for something simple and easy. I'm fine experimenting and learning on my own device but my wife just wants to use the dang thing. I noticed there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of SD images on the forums (unless I'm just not digging deep enough) i'm wondering why as booting from the SD seems like a great way to keep the device within warranty and get all the benifits of a rooted full android device.
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Thank you so much, just what i was looking for something simple and easy. I'm fine experimenting and learning on my own device but my wife just wants to use the dang thing. I noticed there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of SD images on the forums (unless I'm just not digging deep enough) i'm wondering why as booting from the SD seems like a great way to keep the device within warranty and get all the benifits of a rooted full android device.
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Many NTs will only boot into SD from power-off and on insertion of a powered-USB cable -- an inconvenience if/when the NT ever hangs or reboots and you don't have a usb cable and a power source (e.g., wall/car charger or powered usb hub).
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Many NTs will only boot into SD from power-off and on insertion of a powered-USB cable -- an inconvenience if/when the NT ever hangs or reboots and you don't have a usb cable and a power source (e.g., wall/car charger or powered usb hub).
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So is there any advantage to flashing to internal storage if booting into the SD card is not an issue?
asawl: thank you so much for the link, this ROM is awesome my wife will be Oh so happy.
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So is there any advantage to flashing to internal storage if booting into the SD card is not an issue?
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None, unless you want/need to swap sd cards for media storage.
On the other hand, few people who use CM would ever want to go back to stock, so keeping stock is mostly for convenience in the event of warranty claim (you can also just backup prior to flashing CM and restore stock when needed). Once the warranty expires, there is no reason to keep stock and waste space.