Guy's the HDX is a fairly new device, the complete line has not even begun shipping yet & development is in it's infancy.
Currently, you can root your device, but it is HIGHLY recommended that you WAIT.
Currently, there are NO, ZERO, NONE, utilities or consistent fixes for soft bricked devices. This is not good, as currently there are several things that can soft brick this device.
In no circumstances should you do any of the following:
Remove apps or any files from the system folder or any sub-directory.
Restore previous veersions of Kindle apps from a Fire HD.
Make any modifications to any of the build.prop settings, or add any lines to the build.prop
Working but not advised at this time:
Adding any files or apks to the system partition or any sub-directory
There are numerous instances of modifications causing bootloops, soft bricks & KILLING ADB access. To my knowledge, I am the only person that has successfully recovered ADB access & for all the money in the world, I could not tell you how.
If you are not extremely proficient with reverse engineering software, or you don't know all the relevant ADB commands because you have been hacking devices for years, I STRONGLY suggest you wait to even root until further development progress has been made.
If you ignore this warning, you are likely going to be on your own in trying fix it, or you may be waiting months for a consistent fix to be found.
If you like taking risk & tinkering & you like to burn hundred dollar bills just for the pretty orange flame, well, by all means, go right ahead. Just realize right now, there may not ever be a recovery for your particular dilemma & in all likelihood by ignoring this warning, you've already made your warranty null & void.
Well said buddy.
I consider myself a fairly advanced android and linux user and I've customised the heck out of my n4 but I'm leaving my hdx as it is for now.
Good advise there.
Now if only mayday had a pro feature to help with rooting... haha
Can we set jcase up with a webcam? Lol
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
GSLEON3 said:
Currently, you can root your device, but it is HIGHLY recommended that you WAIT.
Currently, there are NO, ZERO, NONE, utilities or consistent fixes for soft bricked devices. This is not good, as currently there are several things that can soft brick this device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Safestrap! Safestrap!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556677
Firstly, this was posted before SafeStrap. Plus, I highly doubt even Hashcode would recommend new users mess with SafeStrap right now. I'm by no means a master developer, but I've been around a long time & I've participated in some pretty cool low level hacking with some of the old timers & I'll be the first to say that there is some funky stuff going on in the HDX. Amazon has not exactly gone out of their way to make modding safe or easy. Plus there's not a whole lot out there yet that requires an custom recovery. It may be fine for you or I, but it can open a whole other host of issues if used improperly.
Sent from my KFJWA using XDA Premium HD app
Hey there I am new to this forums! Got a kindle yesterday (as a gift) and moved straight to xda to see what's cooking unfortunately I was a bit disappointed because there is no "cooking" at all. I hope this has to do with the fact that it's a new device and nobody has tried to make some roms for it yet... Nevertheless I am quite happy with it, although this fire os is a pretty pain in the eyes. Thank God I have managed to get the YouTube app sync with my Google account, plus some other gapps like drive. Well that's it for the moment, I just didn't want to make a new thread so I posted in here. So what do you think, will there be some good roms for this device? And/or maybe we could use those for the kindle fire hd?
Sent from beneath my cloak of magic
Thanks for the info I'm super new at this but was thinking buying one of these. But now that I am acquainted with Flashing ROMs and stuff it's sort of a deal breaker if it's not being done. If I can't modify it, whats the point?
HDX rooting?
I bought a Fire HDX 7" to replace a Nook HD+ for better HW. I thought I read you could root it or at least get the google play store on it, but it appears that is not the case. I guess I misunderstood what I read. Really disappointed now.
Any new news on rooting these things?
blackfox003 said:
I bought a Fire HDX 7" to replace a Nook HD+ for better HW. I thought I read you could root it or at least get the google play store on it, but it appears that is not the case. I guess I misunderstood what I read. Really disappointed now.
Any new news on rooting these things?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Patience good people. Each day a few qualified devs get a little closer ... all on their own free time. A crack might be right around the corner.
Well, it's almost June and development for the Kindle tablets seem to still be very slow, what's the story?
blackfox003 said:
I bought a Fire HDX 7" to replace a Nook HD+ for better HW. I thought I read you could root it or at least get the google play store on it, but it appears that is not the case. I guess I misunderstood what I read. Really disappointed now.
Any new news on rooting these things?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can get root and the Google Play Store on an older firmware, just not any of the newest couple. Yet (I hope).
Good to go: I was able to use hdx-toolkit with my router blocking
Hey everyone.
In case this helps, I was able to ensure that my kindle didn't update by blocking all Internet access at my firewall (Verizon FiOS router) for the device. I looked up its MAC address under "Wireless" -> "Wi-Fi" and configured a rule to block all access.
I confirmed my device version via Apps -> Settings -> System Updates -> Current Version: 13.3.1.0 (factory fresh!)
Then, using my PC I ran the hdx-toolkit 0.94 and after resolving an initial snag (the toolkit couldn't access my device) I was able to do steps 1 (driver), 5 (check if rooted which also checks connectivity), 8 (towelroot), 2 (SuperSU), 5 (confirm root), 4 (block OTA) from the toolkit menu.
Note, the toolkit doesn't want to run from a network share. I copied it down onto my computer's local hard disk first.
My specific issue preventing the ADB setup was I didn't realize the Microsoft driver (to make the device show up as a USB phone device) was blocking the ADB driver from coming up. After uninstalling the Microsoft driver (under device manager - Portable devices for the device "kindle") and installing the device driver for Android Composite ADB Interface, I was able to get the ADB driver to install without error. Symptom of the driver conflict was the end of the installer sequence said "driver not installed correctly or need to reboot".
I am using Windows 8 on a Dell desktop
sabasc said:
Hey everyone.
In case this helps, I was able to ensure that my kindle didn't update by blocking all Internet access at my firewall (Verizon FiOS router) for the device. I looked up its MAC address under "Wireless" -> "Wi-Fi" and configured a rule to block all access.
I confirmed my device version via Apps -> Settings -> System Updates -> Current Version: 13.3.1.0 (factory fresh!)
Then, using my PC I ran the hdx-toolkit 0.94 and after resolving an initial snag (the toolkit couldn't access my device) I was able to do steps 1 (driver), 5 (check if rooted which also checks connectivity), 8 (towelroot), 2 (SuperSU), 5 (confirm root), 4 (block OTA) from the toolkit menu.
Note, the toolkit doesn't want to run from a network share. I copied it down onto my computer's local hard disk first.
My specific issue preventing the ADB setup was I didn't realize the Microsoft driver (to make the device show up as a USB phone device) was blocking the ADB driver from coming up. After uninstalling the Microsoft driver (under device manager - Portable devices for the device "kindle") and installing the device driver for Android Composite ADB Interface, I was able to get the ADB driver to install without error. Symptom of the driver conflict was the end of the installer sequence said "driver not installed correctly or need to reboot".
I am using Windows 8 on a Dell desktop
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sorry I missed this. Great advise though.
A default Microsoft driver was blocking the Amazon ADB driver from coming up. After uninstalling the Microsoft driver (under device manager - Portable devices for the device "kindle") and installing the device driver for Android Composite ADB Interface, I was able to get the ADB driver to install. --Win8/Win8.1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The toolkit needs to be run locally because well the adb connection won't go through your share to your computer.
GSLEON3 said:
Guy's the HDX is a fairly new device, the complete line has not even begun shipping yet & development is in it's infancy.
Currently, you can root your device, but it is HIGHLY recommended that you WAIT.
Currently, there are NO, ZERO, NONE, utilities or consistent fixes for soft bricked devices. This is not good, as currently there are several things that can soft brick this device.
In no circumstances should you do any of the following:
Remove apps or any files from the system folder or any sub-directory.
Restore previous veersions of Kindle apps from a Fire HD.
Make any modifications to any of the build.prop settings, or add any lines to the build.prop
Working but not advised at this time:
Adding any files or apks to the system partition or any sub-directory
There are numerous instances of modifications causing bootloops, soft bricks & KILLING ADB access. To my knowledge, I am the only person that has successfully recovered ADB access & for all the money in the world, I could not tell you how.
If you are not extremely proficient with reverse engineering software, or you don't know all the relevant ADB commands because you have been hacking devices for years, I STRONGLY suggest you wait to even root until further development progress has been made.
If you ignore this warning, you are likely going to be on your own in trying fix it, or you may be waiting months for a consistent fix to be found.
If you like taking risk & tinkering & you like to burn hundred dollar bills just for the pretty orange flame, well, by all means, go right ahead. Just realize right now, there may not ever be a recovery for your particular dilemma & in all likelihood by ignoring this warning, you've already made your warranty null & void.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is this still the case? Just wondering if this thread needs to be updated because some of what's written here seem to contradict what I've read people are doing with their hdx.
my 8.9HD ver. 8.5.1
Is my kindle an HDX?
ant17 said:
Is my kindle an HDX?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, you can find anything related to your kindle here
Hello,
Just to make sure I understood all the info published around:
A Kindle Fire HDX running FireOS 4.5.2 cannot be brought to a state where it can be jailbroken and and alternate ROM installed.
Even the downgrade performed by Amazon operators is to a version too high to allow jailbreaking and installing other ROM.
Am I correct with this assessment?
hfpop said:
Hello,
Just to make sure I understood all the info published around:
A Kindle Fire HDX running FireOS 4.5.2 cannot be brought to a state where it can be jailbroken and and alternate ROM installed.
Even the downgrade performed by Amazon operators is to a version too high to allow jailbreaking and installing other ROM.
Am I correct with this assessment?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
to an extent yes,most custom roms cannot be installed but if you rolled back you can still root and instal the hdx nexus 2.0.2 rom which is pretty much most of what the device needs
@Davengerr: I understand that I can rollback to 3.2.8 and need at most 3.2.6 to install nexus 2.0.2. No?
hfpop said:
@Davengerr: I understand that I can rollback to 3.2.8 and need at most 3.2.6 to install nexus 2.0.2. No?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i have it on 3.2.7 on my device and this here lists what you can do with a 3.2.8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...o-13-3-2-7-t2993089/post58150015#post58150015
@Davengerr: Thank you. All worked out greatly.
Related
A friend of mine picked up a Proscan PLT7044k. Great cheap tablet from BigLots they wanted to gift me as a late birthday present. Sure it's cheap, but cheap can be good right? Especially if it's a backup device or something to tinker with.
Trouble is we're running into some issues. Fine. Great it's a cheap Chinese tablet. We both get that we're not expecting nexus or ipad mini or even kindle fire quality. However GetJar is, apparently, not working correctly, Amazon Marketplace (which it was linked to in the device) will not let you change settings, and My friend isn't wanting to try rooting to get google play working just yet because we're not sure if the Thread found on the matter has all the bugs worked out.
This Thread seems to be closest to what 'we' want but the model number is different (it's supposed t obe the same device save for the one we're working with included a hardware keyboard/case, but one never knows.)
Of Note when queried my friend only saw a one gig internal storage device instead of the four gig advertised and described the external media slot as a SD slot instead of a micro-sd.
So, since I am, for the moment, treating this device as different and not wanting to risk bricking before info can be gained on if it's worht keeping or taken back, trying to figure out the following:
Very minimum how does one get google play on this gizmo.
Is there anything that can be done about the touch screen lag?
Is there a CyanogenMod port that will work or other custom rom that might help with the issues of lag?
Any advice would be welcome/useful. Even 'RTFM' with links to other threads.
Edit: Be Aware my 'primary' computer is running linux (peppermint OS3, ubuntu 12.04 based distro.)
I just got this tablet. You have root accesses out of the box. There are 2 ways I have installed play store. Through root explorer and through adb push. google gapps for jellybean. here is the manual and firmware proscanvideo.com/item.asp?itemnmbr=PLT7044K . I can make a tute anyone needs.
I ended up taking mine back and getting a Nook Touch. Sure I'll still need to root the thing to get much use out of it beyond being an e-reader but even with it not-rooted it's still actually a pretty good experiance.
Sorry Icouldn't be a trailblazer to anyone getting a proscan and wanting to improve on it.
a noob, but I honestly have tried...
Tearran said:
I just got this tablet. You have root accesses out of the box. There are 2 ways I have installed play store. Through root explorer and through adb push. google gapps for jellybean. here is the manual and firmware proscanvideo.com/item.asp?itemnmbr=PLT7044K . I can make a tute anyone needs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok, I have tried very VERY hard to find out how to root my proscan plt7044k. I've tried following the few links that I have found, and have found them to be broken. Or the items just won't download onto my computer or just flat don't work. It appears that what I have to do is to find a driver for this thing so that my computer can recognize it, and the Curtis website doesn't give any driver information. Yes, I did download their manuals and tech material, and they DON'T WORK. All they provide is a powerpoint thing that says to "find program x, do y, etc", without providing that program. I cannot find a driver for this p.o.s. ANYWHERE, nor any that would work for an earlier model and then also "might" work for mine.
I really want to get rid of the "getjar" crap, as well as all of the bloatware that google puts into these things!
Tearran said:
I just got this tablet. You have root accesses out of the box. There are 2 ways I have installed play store. Through root explorer and through adb push. google gapps for jellybean. here is the manual and firmware proscanvideo.com/item.asp?itemnmbr=PLT7044K . I can make a tute anyone needs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have checked device for root it is not rooted out of the box. If you have a tutorial to actually get root it would be appreciated.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda premium
musicafe said:
I have checked device for root it is not rooted out of the box. If you have a tutorial to actually get root it would be appreciated.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The tablet is semi rooted out of the box it only needs supersu (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053). You need to adb push this file.
[HOW-TO] Install & Use ADB tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1474956)
How to push files through ADB (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642437)
Basic adb/shell commands for noobs (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3820215)
Tearran said:
The tablet is semi rooted out of the box it only needs supersu (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053). You need to adb push this file.
[HOW-TO] Install & Use ADB tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1474956)
How to push files through ADB (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642437)
Basic adb/shell commands for noobs (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3820215)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've looked everywhere including the links you provided, and adb don't find this device, oh well, bout to give up on this
side load
Goggles2114 said:
A friend of mine picked up a Proscan PLT7044k. Great cheap tablet from BigLots they wanted to gift me as a late birthday present. Sure it's cheap, but cheap can be good right? Especially if it's a backup device or something to tinker with.
Trouble is we're running into some issues. Fine. Great it's a cheap Chinese tablet. We both get that we're not expecting nexus or ipad mini or even kindle fire quality. However GetJar is, apparently, not working correctly, Amazon Marketplace (which it was linked to in the device) will not let you change settings, and My friend isn't wanting to try rooting to get google play working just yet because we're not sure if the Thread found on the matter has all the bugs worked out.
This Thread seems to be closest to what 'we' want but the model number is different (it's supposed t obe the same device save for the one we're working with included a hardware keyboard/case, but one never knows.)
Of Note when queried my friend only saw a one gig internal storage device instead of the four gig advertised and described the external media slot as a SD slot instead of a micro-sd.
So, since I am, for the moment, treating this device as different and not wanting to risk bricking before info can be gained on if it's worht keeping or taken back, trying to figure out the following:
Very minimum how does one get google play on this gizmo.
Is there anything that can be done about the touch screen lag?
Is there a CyanogenMod port that will work or other custom rom that might help with the issues of lag?
Any advice would be welcome/useful. Even 'RTFM' with links to other threads.
Edit: Be Aware my 'primary' computer is running linux (peppermint OS3, ubuntu 12.04 based distro.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can side load the Play Store, also, what version of Android is the tablet running?
IRIE4IPIER said:
I've looked everywhere including the links you provided, and adb don't find this device, oh well, bout to give up on this
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You probably have a driver problem. I use ADB Konnect (wireless ADB) To push over wifi.
Is there any possible way to flash a custom ROM to it the factory ROM has too much crap on it memory wise?
JayMax03 said:
Is there any possible way to flash a custom ROM to it the factory ROM has too much crap on it memory wise?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I Titanium backup to uninstall the bloat. You also can use Root explorer or adb to rename the apk extension of the bloat to get rid of the eyesore
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
proscan 7" tablet.
you kngoo root, make sure your using windows...anything past vista.
i used wkindows 7 or 8 from an internet cafe and my proscan is plt7602g and it worked fine...i even reset from the android service menu (green dead dude) and it worked but make sure most of all that you have the verify apps off so you can root it. because it will still be a danger to ur tablet. there is always a bricking chance, one you instakll kingoo root and run the program plug in ur tablet press root and the app takes care of it all. and if you google kingoo app or kingoo root it will show a main website and go from there
i got my proscan PLT1077G and i haven't found a **** yet i want to change my tablet android OS but don't have a developer who can help us with this one i think proscan is not that popular
Tearran said:
The tablet is semi rooted out of the box it only needs supersu (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053). You need to adb push this file.
[HOW-TO] Install & Use ADB tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1474956)
How to push files through ADB (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642437)
Basic adb/shell commands for noobs (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3820215)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Going to try this on the PLT7650G
Need firmware file for plt7223g
prepaidguy9081 said:
Going to try this on the PLT7650G
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so much for this method - I used kingo root for windows, slow but works. just go grab a beer and come back in ten.
Does anyone have any information on rooting the AZPEN A701 Tablet (ICS OS)?
All my searches keep popping up for the Acer Iconia A701.
drivers
I found the correct address for the drivers for this tablet, and 2 others from Azpen.
www.mediafire.com/azpensupport
The links on their webpage incorrectly spell mediafire and also include .com in the last part of the link.
Note: I recently got an email from Azpen telling me the exact same url that I had already figured out. Their email is about week to a week and a half after I sent them a request for the proper address. Also, as of the time I am posting this update, they have not corrected the address on their website.
Tried methods
I have tried SuperOneClick which reports that the system is rooted, but ADB Wireless says it is not.
I have tried Bin4ry's Root Many Android! (options 1, 3, and G) and briefly got temp root on option 3 but I lose wireless functionality (I get one or the other message from ADB Wireless (no root or no wireless), verified that Wireless connection has been turned off and won't turn back on until reboot which loses me the root again).
Retries
Ok, finally rooted the Azpen A701.
What I did:
First, I went back to SuperOneClick, and choose Unroot to reverse anything it did.
Retried Bin4ry's Root Many Android! v31, option 1 (new standard method), test, failed, unroot, 3 (old method), test, failed, unroot, then G (Google Glass method), test, WORKED this time.
Verified by using a root browser (can see files/folders(subdirectories) in /data after giving permission), a root checker (note: do not turn on SuperUser's Autoanswer, gives false information from some checkers), and ADB Wireless works while in range of a wireless router/source.
I am guessing that somehow the leftovers from SuperOneClick were affecting my results with Bin4ry's collected scripts.
Props to all that developed each of those programs and scripts.
I don't know if anyone will be seeing this but I hope it helps anyone needing the info.
Just curious to know if there is a rom available in case this method bricks the tablet? I bought this tablet a couple of weeks ago because I wanted to mess with one and I didn't have a lot of cash to spend. I use it daily and my kids play games on it. I can't afford to get another anytime soon, however I'd like to have it rooted so that I can remove factory installed apps that I don't want or need.
no idea
BizarreMan said:
Just curious to know if there is a rom available in case this method bricks the tablet? I bought this tablet a couple of weeks ago because I wanted to mess with one and I didn't have a lot of cash to spend. I use it daily and my kids play games on it. I can't afford to get another anytime soon, however I'd like to have it rooted so that I can remove factory installed apps that I don't want or need.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have absolutely no idea. The only additional rom I have seen ANYWHERE is the Jellybean update for it (see driver link above). This seems to not be a very popular tablet to work with, going by the fact I received no help from anyone here. All research on this so far has been done by me. I stumbled on to Bin4ry's rooting method by accident. I'm not a ROMer, I don't know how to build one. Also I don't know which ROM backup method to use on it/will work with it.
Alright
I'll give it a shot during the weekend, I've grabbed the jelly bean update (thanks for the link). Hopefully all goes well. I figured there would be little to no support for this device, however due to a tight budget I chose to get this tablet.
I don't really mind the lack of support, however I'd like to have root because like on my old phone I had a few programs I used that required root.
Thanks again.
*Edit*
I attempted last night as I had free time to do the root method and unfortunately it did not work on my device. Not sure why it did not work. I'll try it again at a later time when I can. I also attempted to upgrade to 4.2 but it seems as though I am having issues with it as well.
Maybe I'm just stuck with the tablet as is
trying again...
BizarreMan said:
I'll give it a shot during the weekend, I've grabbed the jelly bean update (thanks for the link). Hopefully all goes well. I figured there would be little to no support for this device, however due to a tight budget I chose to get this tablet.
I don't really mind the lack of support, however I'd like to have root because like on my old phone I had a few programs I used that required root.
Thanks again.
*Edit*
I attempted last night as I had free time to do the root method and unfortunately it did not work on my device. Not sure why it did not work. I'll try it again at a later time when I can. I also attempted to upgrade to 4.2 but it seems as though I am having issues with it as well.
Maybe I'm just stuck with the tablet as is
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It may have been the sequence I used. Tried SuperOneClick several times (as above it said tablet was rooted but several apps said it wasn't) which installed su, busybox, and superuser. Then found Bin4ry's method, got temp root (tryied 1, 3, and Glass). Then went back to SuperOneClick and unrooted, returned to Bin4ry's and finally got it with Glass method.
Don't know if that helps
Well
After several attempts via Bin4ry and SuperOneClick I have obtained root on this tablet.
Not quite sure which actually did it though as with super one click it froze on me during both times I used it and each time I tried Bin4ry's method I kept getting messages about connecting my device (which was connected fro the get go).
After several tries with these programs yesterday and finally saying screw it I decided to add some apps that required root. I don't know why I did it I just figured it was worth a shot. I added Super User which told me I was rooted, then I added Titanium Backup and was able to use it as it is intended. For added measure I also installed and ran root checker which as well as super user verified that the tablet had been rooted.
Good to see that your were able to root.
BizarreMan said:
After several attempts via Bin4ry and SuperOneClick I have obtained root on this tablet.
Not quite sure which actually did it though as with super one click it froze on me during both times I used it and each time I tried Bin4ry's method I kept getting messages about connecting my device (which was connected fro the get go).
After several tries with these programs yesterday and finally saying screw it I decided to add some apps that required root. I don't know why I did it I just figured it was worth a shot. I added Super User which told me I was rooted, then I added Titanium Backup and was able to use it as it is intended. For added measure I also installed and ran root checker which as well as super user verified that the tablet had been rooted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So I think we can safely say that using both methods together + patience will root this tablet (don't know why one or the other wouldn't do it).
Not having any luck
CyberSpiderPrime said:
Does anyone have any information on rooting the AZPEN A701 Tablet (ICS OS)?
All my searches keep popping up for the Acer Iconia A701.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have been trying to root AZPEN A701 for the past week, I have tried everything written on this forum. Any help PLEASE!
clean slate
Are you willing to do a full restart on the tablet (factory reset)? I had to do that before my root took, as I found on other systems that I have rooted some programs you load can interfer with rooting. Save any personal data before you do this, programs can be reinstalled from Google Play or (hopefully you saved them if you downloaded them) your computer
Factory reset:
Press and hold up volume button then press and hold power button. The screen will remain black (no backlight)
Wait 4 seconds then release both buttons (backlight will come on). Shortly the android on it's back with the open torso (the sick android) will be displayed.
Press the down volume button. You should see 5 options available- You are now in the System Recovery program.
Using the up or down volume button to highlight an option then press power to select the option.
1) select Wipe Cache Partition
let the unit reboot, then turn it completely off
reenter System Recovery again.
2) select Wipe data/factory reset
let the unit reboot, then turn it completely off
The system is as clean as it is going to get now.
On your pc (don't know for MAC's) download the drivers, Android programs needed (Android Debug Bridge -ADB- is part of the Android Development kit and some Java Development Kits), and both SuperOneClick and Bin4ry's root software. Install all software and drivers as per their instructions. Run SuperOneClick and Bin4ry's root programs. Busybox and SuperUser will be added automatically by these root programs.
While having wifi and internet access (McDonalds anyone?), re-sign up for Google Play (sorry, but the settings got wiped earler). Go to Google Play and let all the programs update. Update Busybox and SuperUser if needed/possible.
Download any root enabled file system browser (FSB) (permission will have to be granted in program to use root functions) - I used Ghost Commander for mine. It may take a bit to find it in the directory structure for the FSB you downloaded but you need to get to the root system folder.
Ghost Commander has a Local Storage option press it and an new list of folders/files will be displayed, move to the previous folder level (double dots at the top) and give permission to move to a system folder, move to the previous folder again to get to root directory, "/mnt" is the directory you just came out of and is highlighted but you will be at the root of the file system.
Enter the "/data" directory. If you can see files listed there, you have root; if not rooting attempt failed.
Once rooted, doing a system cleaning and Factory reset will not remove root but will remove SuperUser and Busybox (re-run one of the root programs to re-install then update the next time you are on the internet/web). Updating/upgrading the rom will remove root if the rom does not have root activated - I don't know of any custom roms for this tablet (there is a Jellybean upgrade in the Azpen website, if they haven't updated to the correct web address then use the one I listed on the front page, mediafire is spelled wrong in the address). Nandroid level system backup is not available yet for this tablet to my knowledge.
For several reasons, do not turn on SuperUser's automatically give permission option (the one that affects all programs), except on a one for one basis: 1) some root testing programs will fail if this option is turned on, 2) security: turning this on will allow ALL programs - including some malicious ones - to have super-user rights, 3) you will get to know which programs are asking for root permissions beforehand not after, you may want some to have automatic access (like DroidWall in my case, a firewall) and not others.
Also other information that can be useful:
/sdcard does not refer to the removeable SDCard but to the internal user data area. All programs that can be moved to a SDCard (like by Apps2SD) will be moved to this directory by default (some may allow re-assignment of the destination location) instead of the removeable SDCard (blame Azpen, it was their decision to use the directory and name that way). On most other systems /sdcard is the removeable SDCard.
/extsd is the removeable SDCard, when installed, maximum size is 32Gb.
/usbhost1 is for any usb flashdrive connected by a USB-OTG cable (OTG means On-The-Go, special usb cable that puts the tablet into host mode, similar to connecting a flashdrive to a computer, the cable is not a standard Data Connect/transfer cable, one USB-OTG comes with this tablet). Note about USB-OTG cables: if one is connected you can connect either a flashdrive, usb keyboard, usb mouse, combo keyboard/mouse unit, or a powered usb 2.0 hub. Only one flashdrive can be connected at a time (anyone know of downloadable software that would allow 2 or more? I know some modified kernels can allow more than one) so with a hub you can connect a flashdrive + keyboard + mouse (I use the RII wireless combo keyboard and mouse with mine). Maximum size appears to be 8GB, format must be FAT32; will be testing with a 16GB key shortly.
Azpen A701 and Jelly Bean
Shortly after I wrote the above I had to re-flash my tablet, but Azpen had deleted the ICS image (after a request it was restored to the site, get it while you can) and had to flash Jelly Bean. I found there were troubles with this image.
First: I could not write to either the external SDCard (called extsd) nor an attached USB flash key; reading was unaffected. I found this out when I attempted to reassign my backup location to the external sdcard and it was unable to create the directories.
Second: I couldn't find a rooting program.
After a little research, I found that the external media had not been given R/W permission in the platform.xml file - I could actually navigate the FS and read the file even without root.
Also I finally found after 2 days of searching a root program, VROOT, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2434453, that would work. Be prepared to deal with Chinese for a little bit and follow the instructions on that page (press the buttons to see screenshots). The superuser app needed to fix/replace the Chinese app is SuperSU (Google Play) which supposedly fixes problems found with other superuser apps. Once you have downloaded SuperSU, had it download/update its binaries and have rebooted, you will have to disable the Chinese Superuser app as you are unable to uninstall it using the app manager: I located it by its icon (shield with cog) in /system/app and appened '.old' to the name: "Superuser.apk" => "Superuser.apk.old'. I didn't use Titanium Backup as suggested because I am not a fan of the program .
platform.xml is located in /system/ext/permissions. After you have root, open platform.xml in what ever text processor you want locally or transfer it to your computer and work with it. You will have to add '<group gid="media_rw">' to the 'WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE' group, on the line after '<group gid="sdcard_rw">' (don't type the single quotes but the double quotes are needed) and write the file back to its location (need root for that, adb pull/push may be possible to fix this). Remember on this tablet, sdcard refers to the internal user storage, media_rw will give permissions to the extsd (external sdcard) and USBHost1 (using included USB-OTG cable and a flash drive). I rebooted the tablet and tested the RW state of extsd, and voila, it now is write capable.
I wish there was more aid on this tablet but since it is not mainstream (not made by a big manufacturer like LG, Motorola, Samsung, etc.) I doubt that it is coming (I am not a ROMmer but have been using computers since the 80's, so I know a few tricks and am always learning). I will keep adding info as I find or fix it.
I will probably go back to ICS as some of my programs are not working right, and JB is sluggish.
I just picked up the A700 from Microcenter, and this is the ONLY reference to rooting the device I could find. The Azpen website doesn't even acknowledge the device's existence. I just came across this yesterday: Azpen A700 - Cyanogenmod forums. I used the Kingo method without a hitch.
Hopefully, all the other folks who get that tablet for the pre-Black Friday sale who found this link will benefit.
johncro13 said:
I just picked up the A700 from Microcenter, and this is the ONLY reference to rooting the device I could find. The Azpen website doesn't even acknowledge the device's existence. I just came across this yesterday: Azpen A700 - Cyanogenmod forums. I used the Kingo method without a hitch.
Hopefully, all the other folks who get that tablet for the pre-Black Friday sale who found this link will benefit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I picked up this tablet also. Not bad for $40. I used this method to root http://www.cydiaimpactor.com/ It worked the first time. I just had to do it on an old XP machine. Windows 8 would not load the right android drivers. Now I'm working on getting Titanium backup to see my external SD card.
comstar said:
I picked up this tablet also. Not bad for $40. I used this method to root http://www.cydiaimpactor.com/ It worked the first time. I just had to do it on an old XP machine. Windows 8 would not load the right android drivers. Now I'm working on getting Titanium backup to see my external SD card.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was going to return it as no rooting procedure would work....(I only bought it so I could have a android tab to fool with...i'm windows tablet all the way)...and once I tried out that rooter it worked...thanks alot for the info!
cheeb said:
I was going to return it as no rooting procedure would work....(I only bought it so I could have a android tab to fool with...i'm windows tablet all the way)...and once I tried out that rooter it worked...thanks alot for the info!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Glad it worked for you! I started this thread for the A700 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532464 - No activity in it yet. But if you come across anything good post it over there.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium HD app
Update
I am glad to see that others are taking an interest in this tablet.
I found 2 methods that worked and am glad that others are finding more.
Now if I can get the boot loader cracked I could finally make a nandroid copy and save myself 4+ hours restoring everything when it goes wonky. This has happened twice- OS partition fills up (and don't know why) and the device resets to near factory reset level (even some of the factory apps are missing) and won't install anything but the smallest of apps which are deleted on the next reboot; the only solution is to re-flash the tablet. Note that I have gone back to using ICS as JB has other problems (external media including its own sdcard partition is not rw enabled for one).
I want to share the screen from my unrooted and updated HDX to Windows 7. Going about my due diligence, I have tried several apps to handle this, including Teamviewer, which works on my rooted Samsung phone, and Fuze, which I haven't verified works in other Android versions. Obviously Amazon themselves is capable of this for support reasons, so I know it's doable. Via wifi or USB is acceptable.
Thanks in advance!
check this out
evilgrin98 said:
I want to share the screen from my unrooted and updated HDX to Windows 7. Going about my due diligence, I have tried several apps to handle this, including Teamviewer, which works on my rooted Samsung phone, and Fuze, which I haven't verified works in other Android versions. Obviously Amazon themselves is capable of this for support reasons, so I know it's doable. Via wifi or USB is acceptable.
Thanks in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello
I found this for you mate, enjoy, and best of all, no root required.
Forget a paste?
ferrouskid said:
Hello
I found this for you mate, enjoy, and best of all, no root required.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi ferrouskid! Thanks for helping, but I think you might have forgot to paste what you found.
evilgrin98 said:
I want to share the screen from my unrooted and updated HDX to Windows 7. ...!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This works for me:
http://droid-at-screen.ribomation.com/
[email protected] for HDX
tl3 said:
This works for me:
http://droid-at-screen.ribomation.com/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I found [email protected] after I made this post yesterday but am having some trouble setting it up. I didn't know in the end whether the issue might have been an Android version issue. If you can confirm that [email protected] works for your HDX, would you mind also PMing me and helping me walk through the setup? These were the steps I took:
Requirements:
Java v7 u51
[email protected] v1.0.2
1) Download and install SDK manager including Platform Tools.
2) Create an (user) environment variable ANDROID_HOME pointing to the "installation directory". (I used "C:\Users\[redact]\Downloads\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20131030\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20131030\sdk\", which contains the "platform-tools" subfolder.)
3) Add "C:\Users\[redact]\Downloads\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20131030\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20131030\sdk\platform-tools\" and "C:\Users\[redact]\Downloads\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20131030\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20131030\sdk\tools\" to the system variable Path, separated by semicolons.
4) Enable USB debugging enabled on the HDX and on a Samsung i777 running OmniROM (Android 4.4.2).
[email protected] does NOT prompt me for the location of adb.exe and reports success in restarting ADB, which makes me think I set the user enrivonment variable ANDROID_HOME correctly. But neither the HDX nor the i777 show up in the device list for [email protected]
After this frustration, I also turned to ASM with similar results (no devices listed).
In case it matters, I ran both programs by double-clicking their .jar through Windows Explorer rather than via command prompt.
Sorry to be a scrubby noob. I'm trying my best to do this without help, but I just can't seem to swing it.
Did you install the ADB drivers for your devices? The KFHDX drivers can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31641230&postcount=1
KFHDX drivers
tl3 said:
Did you install the ADB drivers for your devices? The KFHDX drivers can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31641230&postcount=1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks! I went through slightly more roundabout steps that got me to the same place, which steps can be found here:
Setting Up Your Development Environment
Setting Up Your Kindle Fire Tablet for Testing
Both [email protected] and ASM are working for me now, albeit with a pretty awful delay (and no control over the device, which I would appreciate but understand is out of the question for now). It's possible that all that was needed was the Fire ADB driver, but I now have the Java Development Kit and a few other things to boot. Maybe it will enable me to dirty my hands in the root-testing grounds, which will probably be my next tackle, pending GSLEON getting some more time on his hands.
Thanks, all, again. Very helpful!
evilgrin98 said:
I want to share the screen from my unrooted and updated HDX to Windows 7. Going about my due diligence, I have tried several apps to handle this, including Teamviewer, which works on my rooted Samsung phone, and Fuze, which I haven't verified works in other Android versions. Obviously Amazon themselves is capable of this for support reasons, so I know it's doable. Via wifi or USB is acceptable.
Thanks in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried j5Create's AndroidMirror, no luck. They claim it works with KindleFire, but apparently not Fire HD or Fire HDX.
I have been doing a lot of indepth reading regarding the whole process of loading Lollipop on a Kindle Fire HDX 7.
I thought I had the process understood but have realised I might have a problem. It seems that there is a loop where you need to ROOT the Kindle in order to rollback the ROM, but all the rooting methods seem to rely on having a 13.3.2 or earlier ROM in order to ROOT it.
It seems that the vulnerabilities which allowed the zergRush root method have been fixed, as have the TowelRoot vulnerabilities. These are the only two methods I have found so far after extensive searching.
I am not certain which ROM my Kindle will have since I have ordered it as present for my wife off of Ebay. It maybe that its got an old ROM and all will be OK, but I would rather not waste my time and possibly brick the Kindle by trying outdated fixes.
I have loaded Android-SDK and Android-Tools onto my Opensuse system, but I understand that I can only "adb push" a rollback ROM if I have already ROOTed the Kindle.
Any guidance to avoid a horrible mistake would be much appreciated.
Stephen
What version of FireOS are you on?
EncryptedCurse said:
What version of FireOS are you on?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wont know until it arrives at the weekend. Will post details then.
Looking at Kingroot as a possible option.
Stephen
Shoog03 said:
Wont know until it arrives at the weekend. Will post details then.
Looking at Kingroot as a possible option.
Stephen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Make sure that you don't connect to WiFi.
Your tablet may very well come with an older firmware that'll allow you to unlock the bootloader and install TWRP (allowing access to Lollipop or Marshmallow ROMs).
EncryptedCurse said:
Make sure that you don't connect to WiFi.
Your tablet may very well come with an older firmware that'll allow you to unlock the bootloader and install TWRP (allowing access to Lollipop or Marshmallow ROMs).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, will switch off WIFI first thing and then try pushing out the mod-update-kindle-thor-13.3.2.8_user_713328020.bin rollback ROM using adb or gMTP (a Linux utility).
Definately want to go down the TWRP route. Am I to assume that if its a later ROM then accessing the bootloader and installing TWRP is permanently blocked ?
Fingers crossed that this has been sat lingering in a cupboard for the last year and a half.
Stephen
Shoog03 said:
Yep, will switch off WIFI first thing and then try pushing out the mod-update-kindle-thor-13.3.2.8_user_713328020.bin rollback ROM using adb or gMTP (a Linux utility).
Definately want to go down the TWRP route. Am I to assume that if its a later ROM then accessing the bootloader and installing TWRP is permanently blocked ?
Fingers crossed that this has been sat lingering in a cupboard for the last year and a half.
Stephen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't get ahead of yourself. You should check what firmware it comes with first, and only then evaluate your options; you shouldn't just blindly push the 3.2.8 update.
In order to unlock the bootloader, you'll need FireOS 3.2.3.2 or below. With the more recent versions, Amazon has included anti-rollback protection, which will permanently brick your device if you try to downgrade to anything past 3.2.8. Logically, this means that you'll be out of luck should your device come with FireOS 4 — at most, you'll be able to run a Kit Kat ROM on Safestrap, and others options will be, unfortunately, out of reach.
EncryptedCurse said:
Don't get ahead of yourself. You should check what firmware it comes with first, and only then evaluate your options; you shouldn't just blindly push the 3.2.8 update.
In order to unlock the bootloader, you'll need FireOS 3.2.3.2 or below. With the more recent versions, Amazon has included anti-rollback protection, which will permanently brick your device if you try to downgrade to anything past 3.2.8. Logically, this means that you'll be out of luck should your device come with FireOS 4 — at most, you'll be able to run a Kit Kat ROM on Safestrap, and others options will be, unfortunately, out of reach.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats good to know.
There are so many redundant instruction sets out there that it is very confusing.
Will post the OS when I get it and hopefully get a good pointer to the right strategy.
Stephen
EncryptedCurse said:
Don't get ahead of yourself. You should check what firmware it comes with first, and only then evaluate your options; you shouldn't just blindly push the 3.2.8 update.
In order to unlock the bootloader, you'll need FireOS 3.2.3.2 or below. With the more recent versions, Amazon has included anti-rollback protection, which will permanently brick your device if you try to downgrade to anything past 3.2.8. Logically, this means that you'll be out of luck should your device come with FireOS 4 — at most, you'll be able to run a Kit Kat ROM on Safestrap, and others options will be, unfortunately, out of reach.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Further elaboration: If the device arrives with FireOS 3.2.6 or lower you can rollback and unlock the bootloader. The exact path depends which version is on the device. 3.2.7 (rare) is effectively the same as 3.2.8. As noted keep WiFi off (or airplane/flight mode engaged) as an OTA can push and unwanted update and further restrict your options.
Davey126 said:
Further elaboration: If the device arrives with FireOS 3.2.6 or lower you can rollback and unlock the bootloader. The exact path depends which version is on the device. 3.2.7 (rare) is effectively the same as 3.2.8. As noted keep WiFi off (or airplane/flight mode engaged) as an OTA can push and unwanted update and further restrict your options.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Great.
Is the OTA switch off method where you delete the DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk file still working ?
Stephen
Shoog03 said:
Great.
Is the OTA switch off method where you delete the DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk file still working ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Depends on FireOS version. Renaming (don't delete) DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk works fine on v4. FireOS v3 seemed to have a more elaborate mechanism. Best use HDX Toolbox to kill OTA and related services.
You may not need to kill OTA at all if your intent is to root, rollback, unlock and flash a custom ROM. Depends on the version of FireOS on the device.
Davey126 said:
Depends on FireOS version. Renaming (don't delete) DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk works fine on v4. FireOS v3 seemed to have a more elaborate mechanism. Best use HDX Toolbox to kill OTA and related services.
You may not need to kill OTA at all if your intent is to root, rollback, unlock and flash a custom ROM. Depends on the version of FireOS on the device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is another one of those Catch 22 situations going on here. Assuming I cannot start by rolling back the first thing I will need to do is load up a version of ES File Manager. However this is available through the Amazon App store, but in order to install it I will have to enable the WIFI to download it - which runs the risk of a OTA kicking in at the same time. So I would rather use adb to push the APK of ES File manager out to the Kindle - but here is the second catch I need a file manager to install the pushed APK. I have been digging into using adb install but what I have found so far suggests that it wont install the ES File Manager. See this for a person asking a similar question (and not getting an answer):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...help-installing-es-file-explorer-adb-t3018469
It seems the only way to get started is to engage WIFI, and that runs the distinct risk of taking me to a bad place through OTA.
Stephen
Shoog03 said:
There is another one of those Catch 22 situations going on here. Assuming I cannot start by rolling back the first thing I will need to do is load up a version of ES File Manager. However this is available through the Amazon App store, but in order to install it I will have to enable the WIFI to download it - which runs the risk of a OTA kicking in at the same time. So I would rather use adb to push the APK of ES File manager out to the Kindle - but here is the second catch I need a file manager to install the pushed APK. I have been digging into using adb install but what I have found so far suggests that it wont install the ES File Manager. See this for a person asking a similar question (and not getting an answer):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...help-installing-es-file-explorer-adb-t3018469
It seems the only way to get started is to engage WIFI, and that runs the distinct risk of taking me to a bad place through OTA.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No catch 22 - "adb install app.apk" works fine for ES File Explorer. Skip the Amazon store; grab a copy from here.
Bigger challenge will be rooting if it arrives with FireOS v4 as the most popular tool (Kingroot) requires a brief internet connection to perform its magic. But the process is manageable if carefully monitored; dozens/hundreds have done it.
Again - let's see what version of FireOS is on the device. That will determine next steps and clarify any obstacles you may face.
Davey126 said:
No catch 22 - "adb install app.apk" works fine for ES File Explorer. Skip the Amazon store; grab a copy from here.
Bigger challenge will be rooting if it arrives with FireOS v4 as the most popular tool (Kingroot) requires a brief internet connection to perform its magic. But the process is manageable if carefully monitored; dozens/hundreds have done it.
Again - let's see what version of FireOS is on the device. That will determine next steps and clarify any obstacles you may face.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK thanks, so all I have to do is
adb install <path to app on kindle>app.apk
In my specific case the full instructions will go:
adb kill-server
adb start-server
adb devices <confirm kindle present>
adb push /home/stephen/Desktop/Fire_HDX_7/ES-File-Explorer-4.0.4.1.apk /sdcard/Download/
adb install /sdcard/Download/ES-File_Explorer-4.0.4.1.apk
adb kill-server
Cheers
Stephen
Shoog03 said:
OK thanks, so all I have to do is
adb install <path to app on kindle>app.apk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
adb install <path to app on PC>app.apk
I find it easier to copy the apk into the directory where minimal adb and fastboot lives. Streamlines installs/pushes as no path is needed. (I actually employ symlinks to an apk repository but that's another topic).
Davey126 said:
adb install <path to app on PC>app.apk
I find it easier to copy the apk into the directory where minimal adb and fastboot lives. Streamlines installs/pushes as no path is needed. (I actually employ symlinks to an apk repository but that's another topic).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So it finally arrived (only took about 3 weeks thanks to Ebays ****ty GSP delivery fraud).
It looks brand new, so might be a reconditioned unit. Its a third generation Thor running OS 4.5.5.1 with a Build date of 13 November 2015 (which seems very late and may present an issue in itself).
The roll back thread seems to indicate that it is possible to roll-back the 4.5.5.1 using the mod-update-kindle-thor-13.3.2.8_user_713328020.bin image. I have plugged the Kindle into my Linux box and it appears as an android device, and I dragged and dropped the rollback image to the Download folder. However it will not allow me to check for updates since it requires a working Internet connection to proceed.
I have attempted to place the bin file straight into the sd card next to the Internal Storage folder, but this is root privileged and I have not yet rooted the device.
So its seems it back to the situation that the first step has to be rooting - which means switching on the WIFI to run Kingroot.
So wanting to be extremely cautious at this stage is there any advice as to how to proceed.
I also pushed out a copy of ES_File manager and tried to install using adb install but got this
[email protected]:~> adb devices
List of devices attached
D0FBA0A034530BHD unauthorized
[email protected]:~> adb install /sdcard/Download/ES-File-Explorer-4.0.4.1.apk
Invalid APK file: /sdcard/Download/ES-File-Explorer-4.0.4.1.apk
[email protected]:~> adb install /Internal storage/Download/ES-File-Explorer-4.0.4.1.apk
Invalid APK file: storage/Download/ES-File-Explorer-4.0.4.1.apk
[email protected]:~> adb install /Download/ES-File-Explorer-4.0.4.1.apk
Invalid APK file: /Download/ES-File-Explorer-4.0.4.1.apk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stephen
OK, I didn't follow the instructions for the rollback precisely. I placed the rollback file into the internal storage folder and it found it straight away and is currently installing and doing its first reboot.
Stephen
So i am now running the rollback 13.3.2.8
What next ?
Best root method and then install safestrap and Kitkat and call it a day ?
Stephen
Managed to sideload ES_File_explorer by copying the file into my adb folder and running adb install.
Now I am downloading the update ROM 4.5.2
Will then sideload cve20147911.apk
Stephen
Successful upgraded to 4.5.2
So I installed Superuser and unlocked the root, but when I try to use ES_File_explorer to access the root it prompts with needs ES-permissions manager plugin. It offers to download it but that means switching on WIFI. I have tried to get the .apk file but don't find a good candidate, does anyone have any pointers.
Don't want to switch on the WIFI until OTA is disabled for which I need the permissions manger plugin.
Stephen
Shoog03 said:
Successful upgraded to 4.5.2
So I installed Superuser and unlocked the root, but when I try to use ES_File_explorer to access the root it prompts with needs ES-permissions manager plugin. It offers to download it but that means switching on WIFI. I have tried to get the .apk file but don't find a good candidate, does anyone have any pointers.
Don't want to switch on the WIFI until OTA is disabled for which I need the permissions manger plugin.
Stephen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Took the long rollback/upgrade road - 4.5.5.1 can be directly rooted with Kingroot. Assuming you secured root there is no need to tweak permissions. Simply rename DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk (details).
I am furious. I did not realized that Fire HDX 8,9, (3rd generation) v4.5.5.1 is totally different OS from "normal Android OS" and now I wonder what can I do about it.
How can I uninstall Amazon Android OS and replace it with normal Android OS.
Can that be done? If yes HOW?
I have been searching and reading here, but I am even more confused (yes I am Fire HDX newbie). I would really appreciate if I can get clear and logical instructions HOW can I do that for my unit.
I managed to install Kingroot and was able to login to my Google Play account as I have 2 Android phones (Samsung S2 and Leagoo Lead 1), but when I login and tried to download RootChecker, Google Play does NOT show (recognize) my FireHDX, it only shows my other 2 phones. So that's not good for me.....
Any help will be greatly appreciated as the way is my Fire now is useless.
TIA
Ivone said:
I am furious. I did not realized that Fire HDX 8,9, (3rd generation) v4.5.5.1 is totally different OS from "normal Android OS" and now I wonder what can I do about it.
How can I uninstall Amazon Android OS and replace it with normal Android OS.
Can that be done? If yes HOW?
I have been searching and reading here, but I am even more confused (yes I am Fire HDX newbie). I would really appreciate if I can get clear and logical instructions HOW can I do that for my unit.
I managed to install Kingroot and was able to login to my Google Play account as I have 2 Android phones (Samsung S2 and Leagoo Lead 1), but when I login and tried to download RootChecker, Google Play does NOT show (recognize) my FireHDX, it only shows my other 2 phones. So that's not good for me.....
Any help will be greatly appreciated as the way is my Fire now is useless.
TIA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Likely find what you need in the following thread (one of several btw). Read, go slow, reread to confirm understanding, ask if unsure, ignore internet/youtube guidance from 'experts' not familiar with this device. HDX devices are easy to brick and tough/impossible to recover if you stray off the beaten trail.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...artially-fire-os-to-proper-rom-t3421623/page4
fwiw - I am penning this on a 3rd gen HDX thor (7") running Fire Nexus which is my primary device (3-4 hours per day) despite having access to numerous other computing gizmos with far better headlines. Yep, lowly kitkat on a 2+ year old (unlocked) tablet. Go figure. You can duplicate that 98% of that config with minimal effort.
Thanks Davey, I am reading all the post in that thread you posted. Looks like I am on the right path.
I have 4.5.5.1 and Kingroot installed already on my Fire and working. Installed ES File Explorer and tested. I am rooted. !
Next step is to install Safestrap 4.0.1 - right?
After that I will go with HDX Nexus ROM v4 (as I red it's the best for my Fire HDX)
Then will proceed with HDX Nexus ROM installation ...
Installation
- Install the app
- Grant root access if needed
- Read user agreement and accept to proceed
- Then click install recovery
- When recovery is installed click reboot to recovery (HOW do I do that?)
- You should eventually end up in safestrap recovery
Once I do that the instruction is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/development/recovery-safestrap-v4-0-1-t3137840
Download
*** Please do NOT create any mirrors ***
- Safestrap for THOR
- Safestrap for APOLLO
Which one do I download THOR or APOLLO? (little confused here)
Also, should I delete any or all aplications that I downloaded and installed from Amazon?
Will everything work normal such as: Wifi, AGPS etc? Any known issues with my FireHDX?
TIA
Ivone said:
Thanks Davey, I am reading all the post in that thread you posted. Looks like I am on the right path.
I have 4.5.5.1 and Kingroot installed already on my Fire and working. Installed ES File Explorer and tested. I am rooted. !
Next step is to install Safestrap 4.0.1 - right?
After that I will go with HDX Nexus ROM v4 (as I red it's the best for my Fire HDX)
Then will proceed with HDX Nexus ROM installation ...
Installation
- Install the app
- Grant root access if needed
- Read user agreement and accept to proceed
- Then click install recovery
- When recovery is installed click reboot to recovery (HOW do I do that?)
- You should eventually end up in safestrap recovery
Once I do that the instruction is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/development/recovery-safestrap-v4-0-1-t3137840
Download
*** Please do NOT create any mirrors ***
- Safestrap for THOR
- Safestrap for APOLLO
Which one do I download THOR or APOLLO? (little confused here)
Also, should I delete any or all aplications that I downloaded and installed from Amazon?
Will everything work normal such as: Wifi, AGPS etc? Any known issues with my FireHDX?
TIA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Response to questions:
- HDX 7" = Thor; HDX 8.9" = Apollo (you want Apollo)
- reboot to recovery: you will be prompted (or just shutdown & restart)
- no need to delete existing applications
- everything works in Nexus - WiFi, Bluetooth, location services (no GPS unless you have LTE model), Play Store, etc. No significant issues.
Davey126 said:
Response to questions:
- HDX 7" = Thor; HDX 8.9" = Apollo (you want Apollo)
- reboot to recovery: you will be prompted (or just shutdown & restart)
- no need to delete existing applications
- everything works in Nexus - WiFi, Bluetooth, location services (no GPS unless you have LTE model), Play Store, etc. No significant issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Davey, I have not abandon the OS changing process, I am just VERY scared. Since my post, I have been reading and reading like crazy hundreds pages trying to understand between all the info what exactly is related to only my FireHDX, but did NOT found exact instruction. A lot for HD, HDX 7 etc. It looks like that my Fire is not very popular
I will write again my setup.
Fire HDX 8,9, 4.5.5.1, (3rd generation), 16GB, 4G/LTE, free space left 6.86GB, all stock. Only extra apps I installed are: Opera, GPS Test, KingRoot that I used to Root (working), ES File Explorer that I used to change the permissions like this > Root Explorer>Mount R/W>changed permission to RW in: /system and /mnt/sqfs
I have Windows 7, 32
I am a complete chicken to proceed further.
I imagine next step is to install Safestrap but I am not sure what is the latest version for my Fire HDX 8,9, 4.5.5.1, 16GB, 4G/LTE
(it looks like Safestrap 4.0.1 is the one I should use - correct?) If yes should I follow your instruction BELLOW from other thread?
Next step is to install Safestrap 4.0.1 which provides a pseudo recovery environment that supports the installation of custom roms. You can snag the app from here (got the URL - np), be sure to select the appropriate format (APOLLO). Once installed launch the app and install Safestrap recovery which is the component that does the heavy lifting.
Now reboot. You'll notice a new screen that has a couple options at the bottom. Select the option that launches Safestrap recovery. From home screen go into the backup section. Take a backup of your current FireOS installation (selection all partitions). You will want this should you every want to restore you device to it's current configuration. The resulting files will be quite large and should be copied to another device for safe keeping (will transfer to my PC.). Exit Safestrap and reboot into FireOS. Tether your device and copy the files to a suitable host. You seem to be familiar with ES File Explorer so should have no problem finding them. Should be in the TWRP directory located within sdcard (or just browse internal storage from the host machine).
What is the correct slot that I should use? I just found the answer = Stock slot!
Do I have to download some drivers to my PC for my Fire HDX 8,9, 4.5.5.1, 16GB, 4G/LTE and transfer them to Fire directory? If yes, what drivers and where should I place them. (found the answer - installation zip from here. GAaps and SuperSU are built in so it's the only file you will need. Transfer that to a safe location on your device, preferably in a folder you create directly under sdcard)
Apollo Nexus ROM will be my prefer choice, but wonder if everything will work.
I know that you answer that, but then you mention 4G/LTE, is that mean it will work as well or my SIM/phone/data will not work.
Is there any known issue (what will NOT work) on my Fire HDX 8,9, 4.5.5.1, 16GB, 4G/LTE once I change to Apollo Nexus ROM?
Also I like to ask you if CM11 will have any advantage over Nexus on MY Fire HDX. Just wonder (as you said it has nice GUI etc.)
I red tons and tons of yours and other people posts and I am VERY great full for all your time and help you offer to newbie like me. Your dedication is awesome.
UPDATE
I took the plunge and installed Safestrap and all is fine (checked few times)
I downloaded Nexus Apollo and placed it into folder that I created in the FireHDX Internal Storage. I don't see or know how I can create folder in the root directory in
my Fire sdcard.
I am trying to follow your instructions from your other post:
Nexus Apollo installation zip. GAaps and SuperSU are built in so it's the only file you will need. Transfer that to a safe location on your device, preferably in a folder you create directly under sdcard. (HOW) It is important this file (or it's successors) remain on your device at all times for emergency recovery. Putting it in the suggested location reduces the chance of accidental removal when wiping the (user) data partition. You can also place the folder directly under root (/) but be aware some file managers and tethers restrict access to high level directories.
Important: Unlike TWRP Safestrap v4.0.1 recovery has no ability to communicate with the outside world. Not by tether, wifi, bluetooth, adb, etc. It is fully isolated environment. If your rom becomes unstable (rare...but it does happen) your only recovery is using a previously created backup or a flashable rom image (as discussed above) resident on the device.
That's exactly my concern - will my Apollo Nexus folder get deleted when I install it Nexus on the Stock Slot. Does it wipe ALL the folders in the Internal Storage?
Can I/ should I move the ApolloNexus folder using ES File Explorer 3.0.5 in to Fire Device directory or Root and will I be able to access it after the wipe.?
I am stuck..................!
TIA
Attaching image where is the folder now - is it safe there?
Ivone said:
Davey, I have not abandon the OS changing process, I am just VERY scared. Since my post, I have been reading and reading like crazy hundreds pages trying to understand between all the info what exactly is related to only my FireHDX, but did NOT found exact instruction. A lot for HD, HDX 7 etc. It looks like that my Fire is not very popular
I will write again my setup.
Fire HDX 8,9, 4.5.5.1, (3rd generation), 16GB, 4G/LTE, free space left 6.86GB, all stock. Only extra apps I installed are: Opera, GPS Test, KingRoot that I used to Root (working), ES File Explorer that I used to change the permissions like this > Root Explorer>Mount R/W>changed permission to RW in: /system and /mnt/sqfs
I have Windows 7, 32
I am a complete chicken to proceed further.
I imagine next step is to install Safestrap but I am not sure what is the latest version for my Fire HDX 8,9, 4.5.5.1, 16GB, 4G/LTE
(it looks like Safestrap 4.0.1 is the one I should use - correct?) If yes should I follow your instruction BELLOW from other thread?
Next step is to install Safestrap 4.0.1 which provides a pseudo recovery environment that supports the installation of custom roms. You can snag the app from here (got the URL - np), be sure to select the appropriate format (APOLLO). Once installed launch the app and install Safestrap recovery which is the component that does the heavy lifting.
Now reboot. You'll notice a new screen that has a couple options at the bottom. Select the option that launches Safestrap recovery. From home screen go into the backup section. Take a backup of your current FireOS installation (selection all partitions). You will want this should you every want to restore you device to it's current configuration. The resulting files will be quite large and should be copied to another device for safe keeping (will transfer to my PC.). Exit Safestrap and reboot into FireOS. Tether your device and copy the files to a suitable host. You seem to be familiar with ES File Explorer so should have no problem finding them. Should be in the TWRP directory located within sdcard (or just browse internal storage from the host machine).
What is the correct slot that I should use? I just found the answer = Stock slot!
Do I have to download some drivers to my PC for my Fire HDX 8,9, 4.5.5.1, 16GB, 4G/LTE and transfer them to Fire directory? If yes, what drivers and where should I place them. (found the answer - installation zip from here. GAaps and SuperSU are built in so it's the only file you will need. Transfer that to a safe location on your device, preferably in a folder you create directly under sdcard)
Apollo Nexus ROM will be my prefer choice, but wonder if everything will work.
I know that you answer that, but then you mention 4G/LTE, is that mean it will work as well or my SIM/phone/data will not work.
Is there any known issue (what will NOT work) on my Fire HDX 8,9, 4.5.5.1, 16GB, 4G/LTE once I change to Apollo Nexus ROM?
Also I like to ask you if CM11 will have any advantage over Nexus on MY Fire HDX. Just wonder (as you said it has nice GUI etc.)
I red tons and tons of yours and other people posts and I am VERY great full for all your time and help you offer to newbie like me. Your dedication is awesome.
UPDATE
I took the plunge and installed Safestrap and all is fine (checked few times)
I downloaded Nexus Apollo and placed it into folder that I created in the FireHDX Internal Storage. I don't see or know how I can create folder in the root directory in
my Fire sdcard.
I am trying to follow your instructions from your other post:
Nexus Apollo installation zip. GAaps and SuperSU are built in so it's the only file you will need. Transfer that to a safe location on your device, preferably in a folder you create directly under sdcard. (HOW) It is important this file (or it's successors) remain on your device at all times for emergency recovery. Putting it in the suggested location reduces the chance of accidental removal when wiping the (user) data partition. You can also place the folder directly under root (/) but be aware some file managers and tethers restrict access to high level directories.
Important: Unlike TWRP Safestrap v4.0.1 recovery has no ability to communicate with the outside world. Not by tether, wifi, bluetooth, adb, etc. It is fully isolated environment. If your rom becomes unstable (rare...but it does happen) your only recovery is using a previously created backup or a flashable rom image (as discussed above) resident on the device.
That's exactly my concern - will my Apollo Nexus folder get deleted when I install it Nexus on the Stock Slot. Does it wipe ALL the folders in the Internal Storage?
Can I/ should I move the ApolloNexus folder using ES File Explorer 3.0.5 in to Fire Device directory or Root and will I be able to access it after the wipe.?
I am stuck..................!
TIA
Attaching image where is the folder now - is it safe there?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks like you made some progress (good!) but have the following questions/concerns:
>> Nexus zip location: fine where it is (as shown in your screen shot)
>>Compatibility: no rom is perfect including FireOS. While Fire Nexus is time proven and stable some issues remain:
- 4G/LTE voice does not work
- 4G/LTE data can be finicky; depends on your carrier
- Some Play Store apps (especially games and social media) show as 'incompatible' but typically can be sideloaded without further issue
- Some apps rotate screen 90/180 degrees from 'features' orientation; easily fixed using one of several methods
- Native spell checker crashes foreground application if a replacement word is selected (keyboard spell checkers work fine)
- some browsers/sites mistake big, beautiful, high-res HDX for desktop and do not automatically present mobile version (not a big deal)
- no OTG (external dongle/storage) support...nor is there on FireOS or any other rom for this device; hardware limitation
- GPS is slow and can not be used for driving guidance or games like Pokémon. Same with FireOS. However, static mapping apps are fine.
Yikes - seems like a long list!! Yet an equivalent FireOS manifest would consist of dozens of bullets and take up multiple pages. My wonderful mobile 'issue' list is 3-4x longer. Pick your poison.
Davey126 said:
Looks like you made some progress (good!) but have the following questions/concerns:
>> Nexus zip location: fine where it is (as shown in your screen shot)
>>Compatibility: no rom is perfect including FireOS. While Fire Nexus is time proven and stable some issues remain:
- 4G/LTE voice does not work
- 4G/LTE data can be finicky; depends on your carrier
- Some Play Store apps (especially games and social media) show as 'incompatible' but typically can be sideloaded without further issue
- Some apps rotate screen 90/180 degrees from 'features' orientation; easily fixed using one of several methods
- Native spell checker crashes foreground application if a replacement word is selected (keyboard spell checkers work fine)
- some browsers/sites mistake big, beautiful, high-res HDX for desktop and do not automatically present mobile version (not a big deal)
- no OTG (external dongle/storage) support...nor is there on FireOS or any other rom for this device; hardware limitation
- GPS is slow and can not be used for driving guidance or games like Pokémon. Same with FireOS. However, static mapping apps are fine.
Yikes - seems like a long list!! Yet an equivalent FireOS manifest would consist of dozens of bullets and take up multiple pages. My wonderful mobile 'issue' list is 3-4x longer. Pick your poison.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you Davey for the detail explication.
Wow, what a disappointment with all the Nexus rom issues. Oh well, that will scrap my Vodafone appointment today. In that case I will research alternatives (if they exist). Basically I was going to use it MAINLY for Waze or Sygic navigation and calls. I am not in to games, music, movies etc.
Co you have any idea how is CM11 behave with my type of Fire? Or what would you suggest?
Thanks again for your time and help.
One more time my apologies rambling about the setup request. I have read about so many problems and bricking that put me in the panic mode.
Ivone said:
Thank you Davey for the detail explication.
Wow, what a disappointment with all the Nexus rom issues. Oh well, that will scrap my Vodafone appointment today. In that case I will research alternatives (if they exist). Basically I was going to use it MAINLY for Waze or Sygic navigation and calls. I am not in to games, music, movies etc.
Co you have any idea how is CM11 behave with my type of Fire? Or what would you suggest?
Thanks again for your time and help.
One more time my apologies rambling about the setup request. I have read about so many problems and bricking that put me in the panic mode.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will not be able to use a HDX for dynamic navigation regardless of app or rom - including FireOS. The integrated GPS 'chip' is has proven unreliable and is too slow to keep up with rapidly changing locations. It is also slow to acquire satellites (minutes) and often needs a reboot if the GPS appears unresponsive. Works fine for static location apps/maps using Google's fused location services. Static mapping/location apps are less reliable on FireOS; many will not work at all. Sorry for the bad news ...
Davey126 said:
You will not be able to use a HDX for dynamic navigation regardless of app or rom - including FireOS. The integrated GPS 'chip' is has proven unreliable and is too slow to keep up with rapidly changing locations. It is also slow to acquire satellites (minutes) and often needs a reboot if the GPS appears unresponsive. Works fine for static location apps/maps using Google's fused location services. Static mapping/location apps are less reliable on FireOS; many will not work at all. Sorry for the bad news ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What can I say, big disappointment and dumb decision to buy Kindle.
I may try to sell my Kindle that I used once or twice (just playing around ) and buy something else.
BIG thanks again Davey and sorry wasting your time.
Ivone said:
What can I say, big disappointment and dumb decision to buy Kindle.
I may try to sell my Kindle that I used once or twice (just playing around ) and buy something else.
BIG thanks again Davey and sorry wasting your time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not a waste of time if useful knowledge was exchanged. Despite the disappointment HDX tablets are wonderful devices that can perform many tasks better than contemporary high-end alternatives. Unfortunately, navigation is not one of them.
Davey126 said:
Not a waste of time if useful knowledge was exchanged. Despite the disappointment HDX tablets are wonderful devices that can perform many tasks better than contemporary high-end alternatives. Unfortunately, navigation is not one of them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh well, your right. I am also believer that everything is good for something....
BTW: is it complicated to bring my KF back to stock with out any negative consequences?
Can I just delete Safestrap?
Ivone said:
Oh well, your right. I am also believer that everything is good for something....
BTW: is it complicated to bring my KF back to stock with out any negative consequences?
Can I just delete Safestrap?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Assuming you have not installed a custom rom simply uninstall Safestrap recovery from the within Safestrap app and then close and uninstall the Safestrap app itself.
Davey126 said:
Assuming you have not installed a custom rom simply uninstall Safestrap recovery from the within Safestrap app and then close and uninstall the Safestrap app itself.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, thanks a lot... (no rom installed)
Just checking if there is any news on that matter. Or maybe any new stable Android I can install. As of now I'm just using my HDX 8.9 to watch movies when travelling. Thx!
antonioroc said:
Just checking if there is any news on that matter. Or maybe any new stable Android I can install. As of now I'm just using my HDX 8.9 to watch movies when travelling. Thx!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your question is not entirely clear but it is now possible to install a wide array of high quality custom ROMs on any 3rd (not 4th) gen HDX representing Android 4.4 (KitKat) to 7.1 (Nougat). All offer full access to Google Play along with the amenities that come with native Android and a well stocked app store. That said, if you are only using your HDX to watch movies FireOS remains a solid choice
Thanks for replying. Do you have a tutorial on how to install 7.1 (Nougat) into 8.9 3rd Thor?
antonioroc said:
Thanks for replying. Do you have a tutorial on how to install 7.1 (Nougat) into 8.9 3rd Thor?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have to root FireOS (or pursue a somewhat more complex alternative) and then unlock the bootloader to enable installation of Android 7.x based ROMs on this device. The prep work can be a bit daunting for those new to tinkering with Android devices. The following thread is a good starting point.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/thor-4-5-5-2-easy-to-root-unlock-t3571240
I'm just not getting there
I've been following this post for some time trying to do the same with my 3rd Gen fire HDX 8.9. I'm on OS version 4.5.5.3 and can't seem to get into the system by doing any of the turn-on procedures (turn-on, wait then hold power button, power and volume up, etc.). Has Amazon locked us out with the latest update? Did I buy this and get stuck with a useless (nearly) box of rocks? I have ES File manager, Safestrap 4.01 and Kingroot installed and I'm able to get to the root directory, but I'm lost after that.
Bobkuwait said:
I've been following this post for some time trying to do the same with my 3rd Gen fire HDX 8.9. I'm on OS version 4.5.5.3 and can't seem to get into the system by doing any of the turn-on procedures (turn-on, wait then hold power button, power and volume up, etc.). Has Amazon locked us out with the latest update? Did I buy this and get stuck with a useless (nearly) box of rocks? I have ES File manager, Safestrap 4.01 and Kingroot installed and I'm able to get to the root directory, but I'm lost after that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure what you are trying to do but sounds like the wrong procedure. You can follow along in this thread as I assist another Apollo user with a similar configuration unlock the bootloader in preparation for installation of a custom ROM. Please note you will NOT be able to use this device for dynamic navigation regardless of ROM.
Just not getting there
Davey126 said:
Not sure what you are trying to do but sounds like the wrong procedure. You can follow along in this thread as I assist another Apollo user with a similar configuration unlock the bootloader in preparation for installation of a custom ROM. Please note you will NOT be able to use this device for dynamic navigation regardless of ROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I want to put a full version of Android on my Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 3rd generation. I've followed along on the website. and cannot seem to get a bootloader to open on my Kindle. Running OS 4.5.5.3. I have downloaded several ROMs (CM 12.1, CM 14.1 KK Nexus for fire, but cant get to the bootloader to run any of them. Is there a step-by-step guide anywhere? I was able to get my Nook to the CM 12 platform quite easily.