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Hello everyone!
Right, I bought my htc two days ago from o2 on PAYG off course, I did my own research about the phone and I was happy with the results soo, I bought it.
When I play a game like GTA 3 with a stock settings I get some sort of lag for some reasons, although I thought, because it had the Tegra 3 chip it should run any game without any problem.
The phone is 100% stock!
here is some info in my phone that might help;
Baseband: 3.1204.168.32
Build number: 1.17.206.1
Does anyone have similar problem with the HOX+?
Also, my signal drops sometimes and it does not regain for some reason unless I go to flight mode, ON then off, back to normal. I am with o2/giffgaff, any ideas?
Thanks for your help!:laugh:
AW: [Q] My htc one x+ is laggy while playing a game and signal drops?
There are some major discussions going on around the web regarding gaming performance of this device. Furthermore there are some gaming reviews foot it on you've and so on. They are easy to find if you really look. Just do another search.
But for now here s why:
Tegra 3 is a quite performant soc for a mobile device. But it does have some issues.
First is the bad optimization by game developers. Mostly it's Gameloft. They then to ignore the fact that they should optize their games for different platforms to get a enjoyable gaming experiance. Had been worse. ATM most games are playable.
Next problem is that the graphics processors clock speed is firmly linked to the clock the CPU is running. This means when games do demands little CPU performance GPU will also clock down leading to lags. This has been improved with custom kernel, game updates due to tegra optimizations and custom kernels and ROMs.
Last but not least is that the CPU tends to be running in single core. All in all this service does have a lot of power... Mostly a lot of still unused power but I'm confident devs will go on and improve the situation even more than they already have.
For GTA just lower the graphic settings a bit or try rennovate gaming fix.
For now the only games that are not running for me as they should are GTA iii with some minor lagging, nova 3 playable since latest updates but not enjoyable. And last but not least real racing 3 with most of the time 35+ fps but many drops below 20.
For signal drops: maybe it's bad reception in your area?
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Thanks for the answer, I did look around before asking this question but, all I was getting was answers that make no sense!
Soo, as far as I understood is the game developers plus the kernel but, that sounds like the device was not ready for the market yet htc released it!
One more question! do you think the phone is worth keeping?
THE_ said:
Thanks for the answer, I did look around before asking this question but, all I was getting was answers that make no sense!
Soo, as far as I understood is the game developers plus the kernel but, that sounds like the device was not ready for the market yet htc released it!
One more question! do you think the phone is worth keeping?
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no - send it to me
but you would be surprised what's possible if you use a different rom.
of course non-sense
the phone is good just HTC tends to cripple every device they release
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maxwen said:
no - send it to me
but you would be surprised what's possible if you use a different rom.
of course non-sense
the phone is good just HTC tends to cripple every device they release
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yeah I know but I dont want to risk anything yet! :crying:
all the android phones I had were a HTC like the desire, desire z, sensation xe and for now the one x +, I have rooted all of them without a problem but, this phone is still under warranty I would rather wait for an update then root the phone:silly:
THE_ said:
Thanks for the answer, I did look around before asking this question but, all I was getting was answers that make no sense!
Soo, as far as I understood is the game developers plus the kernel but, that sounds like the device was not ready for the market yet htc released it!
One more question! do you think the phone is worth keeping?
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I don't think you understood what he said. The main point was, the GPU base clock runs at a set frequency directly related to the current clock speed of the CPU. So games like GTA that require little resources from the CPU, do not utilize the GPU to it's fullest. There are some custom kernels that allow the GPU to run at it's max speed regardless of CPU useage.
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AndroHero said:
I don't think you understood what he said. The main point was, the GPU base clock runs at a set frequency directly related to the current clock speed of the CPU. So games like GTA that require little resources from the CPU, do not utilize the GPU to it's fullest. There are some custom kernels that allow the GPU to run at it's max speed regardless of CPU useage.
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Well, I did and thats why I rooted my phone to Viperx+. I am uing the Viber elitekernel but I am having a problem in setting up the max cpu frequency to 1700, its always stuck on 1150 for some reasons and yeah I am using venom tweaks, any idea?
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Well, I did and thats why I rooted my phone to Viperx+. I am uing the Viber elitekernel but I am having a problem in setting up the max cpu frequency to 1700, its always stuck on 1150 for some reasons and yeah I am using venom tweaks, any idea?
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The max Clock Speed is 1600mhz when using all 4 cores, you can only get to 1700mhz when running on a single core. Do you have power saver enabled? That limits CPU frequency.
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AndroHero said:
The max Clock Speed is 1600mhz when using all 4 cores, you can only get to 1700mhz when running on a single core. Do you have power saver enabled? That limits CPU frequency.
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I found out that the game was not fully optimized for the tigra 3 chip, soo I rooted the phone and used Viperx+ 1.06 rom so I can have more control then the stock rom. Now i can do alot of things like set min/max cpu clocks speeds and soo much more, buttery life is much better now (thanks to SetCPU!!:victory but yeah I knew in the end (after going throw alot of reviews) that phone will use 1.7GHz with the 5th core only!
Is there a way I can run 4 cores at 1.6GHz then running 1 core at 1.7GHz or, if I just set max cpu to 1.6GHz, then I will run the 4 cores?
I am using elitekernel for venom team.
No, I dont use power saver anymore!:laugh:
Hey guys am using HTC one V,but am not satisfied with that so i have an idea to buy a new phone HTC Desire X.
i have checked in many websites about the phones's user comments.
Most of them are saying that they have some random reboot problem without rooted & hangs while sharing in bluetooth & produce much heat while browsing and all.
please suggest me shall i buy Desire X or not...
please help me guys:crying:
udhayababu said:
Hey guys am using HTC one V,but am not satisfied with that so i have an idea to buy a new phone HTC Desire X.
i have checked in many websites about the phones's user comments.
Most of them are saying that they have some random reboot problem without rooted & hangs while sharing in bluetooth & produce much heat while browsing and all.
please suggest me shall i buy Desire X or not...
please help me guys:crying:
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Nah... Just buy a One S or a Nexus 4
The Android Manual said:
Nah... Just buy a One S or a Nexus 4
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tanx bro:laugh:
Nothing wrong with the Desire X at all.
Mine works fine with ICS. I am waiting for the latest JB to come out bugless:fingers-crossed:
I just had a LCD screen issue that the suppliers fixed under warranty.
The phone does everything that it is supposed to do.
If you look after your phone, it will look after you.
ORA
ORA 1 said:
Nothing wrong with the Desire X at all.
Mine works fine with ICS. I am waiting for the latest JB to come out bugless:fingers-crossed:
I just had a LCD screen issue that the suppliers fixed under warranty.
The phone does everything that it is supposed to do.
If you look after your phone, it will look after you.
ORA
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Is the jb update is conformed?:laugh:
yes, look at name of threads or google
and beware, there are some grammar nazis who would eat you alive for last post
btw if you have enough funding, get some nexus device (as much as I like my dx, I had to say that)
I can tell you that I am very happy with my Desire X, when running on a custom rom it is incredibly fast, especially for this price.
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knielen said:
I can tell you that I am very happy with my Desire X, when running on a custom rom it is incredibly fast, especially for this price.
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exactly, best price/performance ratio I have ever seen in smartphone area, but still, it isnt flagship, never was intended to be, never will be. If you want good phone for good price, go for it, I can only recomend. If you want really high-end phone, or just bigger screen, there are other options, but not DX.
if you have a low budget then buy this phone... its not that big and super fast for games and others...
if you can afford a more expensive phone then buy something better
but just to know that devs started working a lot on this phone and it will become a lot faster
Am looking phone for gaming without lags
which is best for tat?
not much costlier
I would say go for Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini . It's got 1GB RAM , more internal storage and a better graphic chipset .
It's just a little more expensive .
One of my friends has it and it just feels alot more polished and smooth . The extra-RAM are no big deal though . I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM , but on S3M it lags less . I guess the graphic chipset helps alot .
Uizz.UW said:
I would say go for Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini . It's got 1GB RAM , more internal storage and a better graphic chipset .
It's just a little more expensive .
One of my friends has it and it just feels alot more polished and smooth . The extra-RAM are no big deal though . I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM , but on S3M it lags less . I guess the graphic chipset helps alot .
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"Free ram" is windows bull****, android has nothing to do with windows or the way how they works or handle ram, since its basicaly a linux distro...
mindlesSheep said:
"Free ram" is windows bull****, android has nothing to do with windows or the way how they works or handle ram, since its basicaly a linux distro...
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Ok, why dont you try and open as many apps until the ram is full. Then try to use your phone, see what happens.
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angel.grin said:
Ok, why dont you try and open as many apps until the ram is full. Then try to use your phone, see what happens.
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Free RAM = Wasted RAM. Full RAM = Awesome Multitasking.
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Stereo8 said:
Free RAM = Wasted RAM. Full RAM = Awesome Multitasking.
Sent from my awesome, stock, Nexus7!
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Nope do some tests before you say that. In windows when the ram is full or already used or the program needs more the program crashes then you have to close/exit it manually. In android the system closes apps automatically to free up more ram for the app that you are currently using. More free ram= less lag. Ever wonder why there are so many scripts for ram/memory managment if free ram is useless. Anyway no use convincing you. Hehe just sharing what i understand. Cheers
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The Android Manual said:
Nah... Just buy a One S or a Nexus 4
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The Nexus 4 is nice yes, but still not the best, it has many problems and features that didn't work right and some bugs which Google didn't fix for many updates....
If you have enough money, I would choose the new HTC One
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Nothing wrong with the Desire X at all.
The phone does everything that it is supposed to do.
If you look after your phone, it will look after you.
ORA
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Yes that's the point ^^ The Desire X is not the very best High-End phone, but it is still a very nice and great working phone with good performance
I love it <3
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udhayababu said:
Am looking phone for gaming without lags
which is best for tat?
not much costlier
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desire x is a good device dont bother looking for galaxy s3 mini its not released nor will it release in india.The nexus 4 if released at the US price point is an excellent buy else if from what i have heard @500$ seems kindof pricey.
Look at LAVA XOLO Q800,Micromax Canvas HD, Spice Titanium s1 ,and all the other local brands if you aren't so hung up about custom roms(I for one am).
If you are willing to wait for say a month or so there is Xperia L(Available for preorder) ,Optimus L9 And ofcourse there is Galaxy Grand.
EDIT: #zen-mode-ON
the desire X is the true choice of Needs and Wants it is actually everything that you need(yes gaming is also very good eg Dead Trigger). But then what exactly you want a 10 inch screen 16 core processor 1TB ram the demands are endless so you have gotta make a choice a balance between needs and wants.
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Nope do some tests before you say that. In windows when the ram is full or already used or the program needs more the program crashes then you have to close/exit it manually. In android the system closes apps automatically to free up more ram for the app that you are currently using. More free ram= less lag. Ever wonder why there are so many scripts for ram/memory managment if free ram is useless. Anyway no use convincing you. Hehe just sharing what i understand. Cheers
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I am not saying that every last piece of ram is used by cache, after phone reboot, you have plenty of free ram, until you start acctualy use apps and fill cache a bit, but linux is working with ram not unlike windows, you said that yourself. I never said memory management is useless, ofc it is usefull, a lot, my point was that claiming "I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM" has same value as "I had pancakes yesterday" ... I could have, while playing nova 3 much more free ram if I am after phone reboot (and plenty of other ways), I can have less free ram if I used plenty of apps before, it still wont change quality of gameplay, smoothness or anything (unless you really try to make it laggy with anything you have got, which is possible ofc).
quick edit: I am multitasker, I have never met any lag apart from starting apps and other "regular ones" android is handling this pretty good
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I am not saying that every last piece of ram is used by cache, after phone reboot, you have plenty of free ram, until you start acctualy use apps and fill cache a bit, but linux is working with ram not unlike windows, you said that yourself. I never said memory management is useless, ofc it is usefull, a lot, my point was that claiming "I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM" has same value as "I had pancakes yesterday" ... I could have, while playing nova 3 much more free ram if I am after phone reboot (and plenty of other ways), I can have less free ram if I used plenty of apps before, it still wont change quality of gameplay, smoothness or anything (unless you really try to make it laggy with anything you have got, which is possible ofc).
quick edit: I am multitasker, I have never met any lag apart from starting apps and other "regular ones" android is handling this pretty good
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ok got your point.i have a different experience so maybe we have different opinions. no point in debating. cheers
to the ts. i really dont like the cpu and gpu combo in the dx.. gpu not that good.. if it had a better gpu maybe i would buy this. go find a device with a good gpu from mid to high. this is just low end gpu. adreno 203 < sgx 531 based on my experience and benchmarks. so better find a cellphone with a good gpu that how i choose a new phone though.
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I am not saying that every last piece of ram is used by cache, after phone reboot, you have plenty of free ram, until you start acctualy use apps and fill cache a bit, but linux is working with ram not unlike windows, you said that yourself. I never said memory management is useless, ofc it is usefull, a lot, my point was that claiming "I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM" has same value as "I had pancakes yesterday" ... I could have, while playing nova 3 much more free ram if I am after phone reboot (and plenty of other ways), I can have less free ram if I used plenty of apps before, it still wont change quality of gameplay, smoothness or anything (unless you really try to make it laggy with anything you have got, which is possible ofc).
quick edit: I am multitasker, I have never met any lag apart from starting apps and other "regular ones" android is handling this pretty good
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I didn't mean that having more free RAM is a bonus , I just wanted to point out that RAM is not something to take into consideration when gaming . Speciffically , that it's got more than enough for any high-end game . Having enough or more than enough are both better than NOT having enough at all .
Indeed I am a lot more familiar with Windows' way of dealing with RAM , however I've seen how Linux works as well , and even though you are right in saying that using more RAM grants you better multitasking , the way Android handles the RAM on the DX is far from perfect . From my experience , Samsung devices manage RAM A LOT better than any other brand I've tried so far (at least on low / middle end devices) . HTC doesn't do a bad job , but it's not to be praised either , at least not on the DX . Then again , look at an LG's RAM management and you'll most likely start crying xD !
Yes I am noob, but I would like to learn more, so here I am, long time looker, joining the ranks. I tried searching but all I found was 2-3 year old stuff or non specific answers.
*Edit* CRAP SORRY, saw that questions shouldn't be posted in general. Such a noob move sorry...
I am currently loading old school gaming roms on my phone and soon to be tablet. Years ago I had n64 roms and they were laggy, I figured years later they would run without a hitch, not so much.
Here is what I am running.
Verizon Droid RAZR HD
Micro SD (class 4) 32GB
Snapdragon S4 MSM8960
CPU 1.5 GHz dual-core Krait
GPU Adreno 225
Memory 1GB Dual-channel, 500 MHz LPDDR2 RAM
I am running the standard vanilla rom so it's stock with Verizons bloatware, so I now a bit of lag could rest there.
I am looking to buy a cheaper android tablet that will run Ps1/N64 games without a hitch if possible. I guess what I am wondering is what controls ROM's lag, is it the GPU? Memory? Processor? The ROM/Program itself? I am wondering what hardware (if any) runs these without major issues.
Thanks a ton guys, very happy to help join the ranks. If I missed a thread that covers this please point me in the right direction!
Bump please
Guess I'll try again
Millni6 said:
I guess what I am wondering is what controls ROM's lag, is it the GPU? Memory? Processor? The ROM/Program itself? I am wondering what hardware (if any) runs these without major issues.
Thanks a ton guys, very happy to help join the ranks. If I missed a thread that covers this please point me in the right direction!
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In all honesty it is a combination of all the factors you mentioned above. Because mobile processors work on a SoC (System on a Chip) design model if you have a weak CPU all the others components on the chip such as RAM and GPU will be weak as well, likewise a strong CPU will most often be coupled with powerful components increasing performance. That being said emulating games is mainly GPU and some CPU intensive of a task. Also the ROM app itself can be a major factor because the games are not being run on there native optimized hardware (Such as the N64) game performance can surfer, a poorly optimized game emulator will lead to poor playback of emulated games. As far as hardware that runs these without issue my Galaxy S3 and Nexus 10 have ran whatever emulator ROM I throw at them. Also keep in mind some game ROMs just don't work or are poorly optimized so no matter what emulator or hardware you have they will have problems with lag.
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shimp208 said:
In all honesty it is a combination of all the factors you mentioned above. Because mobile processors work on a SoC (System on a Chip) design model if you have a weak CPU all the others components on the chip such as RAM and GPU will be weak as well, likewise a strong CPU will most often be coupled with powerful components increasing performance. That being said emulating games is mainly GPU and some CPU intensive of a task. Also the ROM app itself can be a major factor because the games are not being run on there native optimized hardware (Such as the N64) game performance can surfer, a poorly optimized game emulator will lead to poor playback of emulated games. As far as hardware that runs these without issue my Galaxy S3 and Nexus 10 have ran whatever emulator ROM I throw at them. Also keep in mind some game ROMs just don't work or are poorly optimized so no matter what emulator or hardware you have they will have problems with lag.
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Wish I could give you more props for answering that, thanks a ton!!
A few follows ups. Isn't my Razr HD pretty close to the same specs as your S3 (short of yours has 2GB of ram) or now are we talking about the fact that I have the stock bloatware of Verizon?
So something like a Tegra 3 would work perfectly fine correct?
Your last sentence makes me worried. For instance it seems like Golden Eye, Super Smash Bros and Final Final Fantasy 7 all seem to hit small short lag spikes with audio and the N64s hit preformance spikes. It's subtle but enough to be annoying.
Millni6 said:
Wish I could give you more props for answering that, thanks a ton!!
A few follows ups. Isn't my Razr HD pretty close to the same specs as your S3 (short of yours has 2GB of ram) or now are we talking about the fact that I have the stock bloatware of Verizon?
So something like a Tegra 3 would work perfectly fine correct?
Your last sentence makes me worried. For instance it seems like Golden Eye, Super Smash Bros and Final Final Fantasy 7 all seem to hit small short lag spikes with audio and the N64s hit preformance spikes. It's subtle but enough to be annoying.
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You are correct the Razr HD is very close in specs to the US version of my Galaxy S3 apart from the 2GB or RAM, the 2GB of RAM can help performance but won't cause a massive difference in performance. Additionally the Verizon bloat will chew up resources and depending on what other applications you have running the background can take away resources from the emulator. In general carrier bloatware will slow down the entire device making it seem sluggish. Since you mentioned you were looking to get a cheaper Android tablet to play emulated games on I would definitely check out the Nexus 7, it has good gaming performance for emulated games and gaming performance in general. And like I said previously some games will always just lag or have jumps in the audio and can be annoying unfortunately that part of the problem with playing emulated games.
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You are correct the Razr HD is very close in specs to the US version of my Galaxy S3 apart from the 2GB or RAM, the 2GB of RAM can help performance but won't cause a massive difference in performance. Additionally the Verizon bloat will chew up resources and depending on what other applications you have running the background can take away resources from the emulator. In general carrier bloatware will slow down the entire device making it seem sluggish. Since you mentioned you were looking to get a cheaper Android tablet to play emulated games on I would definitely check out the Nexus 7, it has good gaming performance for emulated games and gaming performance in general. And like I said previously some games will always just lag or have jumps in the audio and can be annoying unfortunately that part of the problem with playing emulated games.
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You sir are a pro, I think I am going to buy the Acer Iconia 7 A110, it has a Tergra 3 just like the Nexus and is on sale refurbed at Walmart for 140.0
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Icon...an-Operating-System-Gray-Refurbished/23662167
Millni6 said:
You sir are a pro, I think I am going to buy the Acer Iconia 10.1 A210, it has a Tergra 3 just like the Nexus and is on sale refurbed at Walmart for 180.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Icon...13700444333861315661&affillinktype=10&veh=aff
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Thank you for the compliment and that is defiantly a good choice, my only piece of advice when buying devices refurbished is ask them if you can try the exact device your gonna buy before you pay for it. I have known several people who have bought refurbished electronics from stores where the guarantee said the device was fully working but when they got home it either didn't power on or something else didn't function properly.
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Thank you for the compliment and that is defiantly a good choice, my only piece of advice when buying devices refurbished is ask them if you can try the exact device your gonna buy before you pay for it. I have known several people who have bought refurbished electronics from stores where the guarantee said the device was fully working but when they got home it either didn't power on or something else didn't function properly.
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Yup for sure, they have a 15 day return period, so for whatever reason it does not work, I'll return it. I also saw an Amazon review where they were talking about n64/ps1 roms seems to me like the guy got them to work without any lag issues.
Hi Folks,
I would like to start new thread regarding my question so that I can get replies based on latest phones out there. I am looking for an Android phone for my wife and I have few things on my mind.
Existing phone - HTC Explorer. Pretty good phone and the fact that it runs on Gingerbread makes it quite fast and responsive even with mediocre hardware. Only drawback is internal storage (150 mb) which is why I am now looking for new phone.
Expected new phone - (Atleast) 1Ghz dual core, 1GB RAM, >1500 mAh battery, Internal storage 4GB. Display, OS version and other things not so much important. Budget - 15K-18K INR. Also need ambient light sensor mandatory so that I can set "Auto Brightness" ON which makes huge difference on battery.
Usage - Common apps like Facebook, Gmail, Whatsapp and few lightweight games and nothing heavy.
There are a quite a few phones which matches above config in that budget but I tried to did extensive research on reviews by GSMArena, Engadget etc and I couldn't shortlist one proper phone which will give all round performance. What I am really looking for is phone that will not start lagging after usage of couple of months and should provide decent battery backup.
Also I do not understand myth around actual RAM that is available for phone. I thought HTC Desire X could be good phone but I am not quite sure how much RAM out 768MB will be actually user available. I had HTC One V and it said 512 RAM but it showed only 350MB on phone. And HTC phones comes with heavier Sense and it kills lot of RAM. Also I noticed that JellyBean (although butter smooth) tends to lag on phones with lesser RAM. I had rooted my HTC One V and tried CM10 PrimoU on it but still it started lagging after few days. Thus 350MB RAM was never enough for Jellybean. Hence I am not sure how will HTC Desire X turns out.
Good thing about HTC Explorer Gingerbread was that it was lightweight and runs super fast even on ordinary config. I was even tempted to go for Gingerbread out of box phone with better config and never update OS but I am not sure if that will be good decision based on app supports in future. Currently I am using Nexus 4 and no other phone can match its performance with 2GB RAM without additional customization like Sense, Touchwiz etc. But I have some budget constraint buying this new phone and besides, wife not being heavy user and doesn't prefer too large screen phone, I am looking for something else.
Any ideas, suggestion will be helpful.
-Abhijit
Guys i've been wanting to buy HOX+ .. but i heard a lot of talk about the device overheating and also lagging cuz of the lack of RAM !!
plz i'm really confused here .. i like the stock sense interface a lot .. i got used to it and have been using it since i bought my HTC Incredible S even after trying a lot of different ROMS i came back to stock ...
I need HONEST opinions plz ... i'm a student and so far getting money is really hard for me ... i don't wanna buy something that i might regret buying later, or having to stick with it while i'm not satisfied... my questions are :
1. Does the HOX+ feel laggy when using the stock sense ?
2. What's with the overheating problem ? usually they say that it starts overheating and reaching temps of 55 and highier sometimes when gaming .. is that true ?!
3. Does it really lack RAM ? or is it the sense consuming a lot which makes it lag ? and will the sense 5 be lighter on the device than sense 4+ ?
4. and ofc .. should i buy or not ?
To anyone who will answer .. your help is much appreciated !! thanx a bunch in advance !!
Happy one x+ owner since february (would have bought the One but that 32gb think is definitely a no go, and i never bought anything but htc since 2007, but had the opportunity to play around with loads of gs2 and 3s...)
Enough with the intro, in everyday use its perfect, 1gig of ram is plenty for normal use, itll always sit between 680 and 870 with the stock rom. If you use it heavily, youll get no more lag than with any other android phone with 1gig of ram (example, try and launch skype, youtube, real racing, a heavy webpage and switch between them a lot and real quick with a gs3, same result.. worst case scenario, the phone will not respond for 20secs max and happens to me 1-2times/month tops).
Heats a lot, theres no denying that, while on heavy games (again, real racing, shadowgun, nfs, asphalt and drains battery pretty quick with those apps).
On a gps app (tomtom, navigon,...) It also heats a lot but then, the problem is that it also will stop charging (ex, with a car kit-charger) because of high voltage and will wait until its cooled down to go further with charging.
It feels just a tiny bit less snappier than a gs3 but nothing really noticeable.
Again, 64gb it something to own, all my music (10gigs) my game roms (15 gigs) and my apps and games (25gigs) still allow me some room to take loads pf pics and shoot videos.
Im on stock 4.1.2, still havent felt the need to flash anything on it and reports say that ot feels even snappier with sense 5, which appearently will use 100mb of ram less, says another xda fellow on the update post.
I have a german phone in belgium (same region) so i can update as soon as i get my update.
One tip though, since we cant remove the battery, i have planned on killing it to send it sometime close the the end of my warranty period for htc to replace it.
Last think i really appreciate, is that the case of this phone os made of rubber, which makes it very resistant to dropping and shocks (already fell 5times on concrete and the screen is intact - lucky me maybe?)
Sorry for the long post, i hope i could help bring the light on your interrogations.
Got mine brand new on ebay for 440€ btw.
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Thanx a lot for the detailed review mate .. I couldn't hope for anything better !! I guess if those things don't bother you that much .. then they shouldn't bother me either !!
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Guys i've been wanting to buy HOX+ .. but i heard a lot of talk about the device overheating and also lagging cuz of the lack of RAM !!
plz i'm really confused here .. i like the stock sense interface a lot .. i got used to it and have been using it since i bought my HTC Incredible S even after trying a lot of different ROMS i came back to stock ...
I need HONEST opinions plz ... i'm a student and so far getting money is really hard for me ... i don't wanna buy something that i might regret buying later, or having to stick with it while i'm not satisfied... my questions are :
1. Does the HOX+ feel laggy when using the stock sense ?
Not during normal use. The only time I've seen it lag is when an app is misbehaving, which doesn't happen often
2. What's with the overheating problem ? usually they say that it starts overheating and reaching temps of 55 and highier sometimes when gaming .. is that true ?!
It does get pretty toasty. I hit the thermal cut-off (where the phone turns off on its own) once. If you see the green/red light flashing, stop doing what it is that you're doing and let it cool down.
OR you can download SU Root Tools from the market (it's free) and set a CPU temp status in the notification bar so you know what it's at. You can also have it sound an alarm when it goes above a certain temp. (It repeats "CPU temperature hot" over and over till it goes below the threshold you set)
3. Does it really lack RAM ? or is it the sense consuming a lot which makes it lag ? and will the sense 5 be lighter on the device than sense 4+ ?
Not in my opinion.
4. and ofc .. should i buy or not ?
No. You should send me the money and I'll buy another one. :highfive: lol
To anyone who will answer .. your help is much appreciated !! thanx a bunch in advance !!
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Thank u sir !! Much appreciated .. this overheating thingy .. it can get pretty nasty I see .. that's bad :/ well i don't play games that much .. not the heavy ones atleast .. anyway thanx again mate !
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No problem. Not sure when the flashing warning lights come on, but I have the cpu temp in the notification bar like I said and the alarm set to 60. Anything over that, IMO, is too much.
And honestly, you'll feel it. You can feel it on the back and on the screen itself (at the top half).
Wahhh 60 ? The highest battery temp i hv got so far is 45.
I seldom play heavy games and i use my hox+ for whatsapping and chatting, listening to music and some internet browsing only, may sometimes play casual games, so the phone is really snappy on me.
In my opinion it really depends on ur usage, if u take photos/listen to music a lot HOX+ is definitely ur choice, but if u r going to flash ROMs/ doing a lot of multitasking maybe Nexus 4 suits u better
PS I'm on stock 4.1 rom, Sense 5 update hvnt reached my CID_622 yet
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Hiken_Ace said:
Guys i've been wanting to buy HOX+ .. but i heard a lot of talk about the device overheating and also lagging cuz of the lack of RAM !!
plz i'm really confused here .. i like the stock sense interface a lot .. i got used to it and have been using it since i bought my HTC Incredible S even after trying a lot of different ROMS i came back to stock ...
I need HONEST opinions plz ... i'm a student and so far getting money is really hard for me ... i don't wanna buy something that i might regret buying later, or having to stick with it while i'm not satisfied... my questions are :
1. Does the HOX+ feel laggy when using the stock sense ?
2. What's with the overheating problem ? usually they say that it starts overheating and reaching temps of 55 and highier sometimes when gaming .. is that true ?!
3. Does it really lack RAM ? or is it the sense consuming a lot which makes it lag ? and will the sense 5 be lighter on the device than sense 4+ ?
4. and ofc .. should i buy or not ?
To anyone who will answer .. your help is much appreciated !! thanx a bunch in advance !!
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HTC One X+ is a great phone! Only if you want to play heavy demanding games, it maybe isn't the phone you're looking for. Don't get me wrong, performance of tegra 3 SoC is really good, but it is not the best for games anymore. But as far as i found our, the (most of times) small lags are related to GPU performance. And the "overheating problem" only occurs when playing really hardware demanding games.
But if gaming is only aminor matter to you, i think it is still a good choice! It has everything you need: more than enough cpu power for daily tasks, 64GB of memory and 1GB of ram, which is also enough for everything you could normally do.
And Thanks to the devs here there is still room for improvements, if you like to flash custom kernels and roms!
I use mine for gps a lot to track my runs with Endomondo and I've never had any heat from my HOX+, with some games yeah it gets hot but I'm in Vietnam so everything gets hot here anyway. Ive never had any freezes or shut downs due to heat. On average I get 2 days on the battery with light gaming, alot of sms, viber, Facebook and some browsing when I'm outside along with music. Overall I'm quite happy with this phone.
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Thanx a lot everybody .... Ur feedback was really helpful ! I guess I'm buying the phone !!
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Actually heating has pretty much been fixed due to undervolting, cpu quiet governor an gpu decoupling, the gpu can run at full speed and the cpu can run at a lower frequency and voltage with more cores active. With sense 5, many of these tweaks aren`t even necessary as it uses a two stage ondemand which gives great idle and light usage batterylife and good performance when needed in games. Ram problems are also gone with sense 5, unreal engine 3 games used to reload the launcher in 4+ but in 5, even the animations remain smooth with the app in the background. The already great One X+ got even better with the sense 5 update.
ryanjsoo said:
Actually heating has pretty much been fixed due to undervolting, cpu quiet governor an gpu decoupling, the gpu can run at full speed and the cpu can run at a lower frequency and voltage with more cores active. With sense 5, many of these tweaks aren`t even necessary as it uses a two stage ondemand which gives great idle and light usage batterylife and good performance when needed in games. Ram problems are also gone with sense 5, unreal engine 3 games used to reload the launcher in 4+ but in 5, even the animations remain smooth with the app in the background. The already great One X+ got even better with the sense 5 update.
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Thanx a lot bro !! U just made my day with these news !! I'm definitely buying it
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Hiken_Ace said:
Thanx a lot bro !! U just made my day with these news !! I'm definitely buying it
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You should also buy it because Justin Bieber approves of this phone :thumbup:
ryanjsoo said:
. With sense 5, many of these tweaks aren`t even necessary as it uses a two stage ondemand which gives great idle and light usage batterylife and good performance when needed in games. Ram problems are also gone with sense 5, unreal engine 3 games used to reload the launcher in 4+ but in 5, even the animations remain smooth with the app in the background. The already great One X+ got even better with the sense 5 update.
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True story ( the one x plus became the ( ! Iron man plus ! :victory: )
JustinBieber said:
You should also buy it because Justin Bieber approves of this phone :thumbup:
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Why .. why why ????
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hi
i have my hox+ for 1yr and i haven't experience any problem it does get hot when the cpu is at full capacity but is not a problem for me i get 1 1/2 to 2 days of moderate use.this is my gps my router my laptop my media player and it have never let me down so this is a phone that you will not regret buying trust me on this one. my wife have the gs3 and my brother in law have the iphone 5 and my phone is kicking ass......
The device does not lack ram. End of the day it has double the min requirements to run windows 7.....
Also on overheating .... It's a myth... Yeah the device does get hot. But what do you expect? When you put a fairly powerful quad core soc in a device with no cooling and little ventilation. It's gunna get hot. But all the overheating hype is cause by people who don't actually know what safe temps are. They feel the outside of there case get hot and start to worry, but they don't get that the phone has to dissipate heat some how.....
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AndroHero said:
The device does not lack ram. End of the day it has double the min requirements to run windows 7.....
Also on overheating .... It's a myth... Yeah the device does get hot. But what do you expect? When you put a fairly powerful quad core soc in a device with no cooling and little ventilation. It's gunna get hot. But all the overheating hype is cause by people who don't actually know what safe temps are. They feel the outside of there case get hot and start to worry, but they don't get that the phone has to dissipate heat some how.....
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Which temperatures are considered as overheating?
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jizang said:
Which temperatures are considered as overheating?
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The cpu will throttle down before reaching unhealthy temperatures (I don't know the exact value). The only critical problem is the battery, which shouldn't be exposed to too high temperatures over longer periods of time.
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but if you are a heavy user like me, you will have to brought a charger with you... and charge it twice a day