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i have a cellphone repair store and am addicted to new cellphones and trying them out. i currently have the i9300 and love it, but am wondering if there would be anyway to hack it to receive 3g/4g T-Mobile USA. I have switched over back to T-Mobile because they have the best speed for money and coverage ratio where i live. I also have the galaxy note sgh i717 and have it rooted and running ics with the blaze radio hack and it works beautifully on T-Mobile. So what im asking is, will there be a way to flash a radio the same way it was done on the note for the i9300? i really like the way my phone is and prefer the quad core over the dual core that will be coming out here in the us. I don't want to have to sell my international i9300 to get the USA T-Mobile version just so i can have working 3g/4g. Im Hoping for a answer yes you can flash a radio and someone can try to do it. I wish i had more time to play around with these things and be more knowledgable about what im saying, but with my job and two kids i try to learn as much as possible.
Nope. The hardware for the international version doesn't support LTE. Unless you're a superDev and manage mod the system on a chip support it, you'll have to use the US version to get 4G.
It's only the the main reason that the US version isn't getting the quad core. Not that the S4 + 2Gb of memory isn't just as good if not better than the exynos.
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What about the hspa+ or even 3g on T-Mobile. I can't see the note that has the same bands as the i9300 being able to do that why not the i9300?? I guess maybe I'm missing something?? Cause the only thing missing is the 1700 band. From both phones and they added it to the att note somehow
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Nope. The hardware for the international version doesn't support LTE. Unless you're a superDev and manage mod the system on a chip support it, you'll have to use the US version to get 4G.
It's only the the main reason that the US version isn't getting the quad core. Not that the S4 + 2Gb of memory isn't just as good if not better than the exynos.
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He's not asking about LTE, he's asking about getting T-Mobile 3G. I'd like to know if this is possible as well....
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What about the hspa+ or even 3g on T-Mobile. I can't see the note that has the same bands as the i9300 being able to do that why not the i9300?? I guess maybe I'm missing something?? Cause the only thing missing is the 1700 band. From both phones and they added it to the att note somehow
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No.
The AT&T Note has an SoC that has the 1700mhz band. It is the same SoC that is in the T-Mobile SGSII.
The international Note has the same SoC as the i9100 and i9300 and it does NOT have the 1700mhz band, and it never will.
The only way is when tmo start reusing the 1900 frequency for 3g later this year.
Apparently they are trying it out in some places already.
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The only way is when tmo start reusing the 1900 frequency for 3g later this year.
Apparently they are trying it out in some places already.
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A few scattered locations in California and the west coast as well as some on the east coast.
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A few scattered locations in California and the west coast as well as some on the east coast.
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I really hope they go widespread with it because I was in America two months ago and tmo was better than at&t for pricing etc. And I'll likely be going back again and wanna use my phone there on tmo preferably.
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I really hope they go widespread with it because I was in America two months ago and tmo was better than at&t for pricing etc. And I'll likely be going back again and wanna use my phone there on tmo preferably.
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Haha yeah it is much better. I have been using mine on T-Mobile and 2G isn't the worst thing in the world, especially when I'm around wifi all day long at school and home, and you can't even get the T-Mobile versions anywhere here.
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here is an interesting link showing these 1900 locations coming up http://www.airportal.de/
I don't think there is any hack or mods, just have to wait for T-Mobile to expand their 1900mhz coverage.
Luckily, I'm in the area where T-Mobile offers 1900mhz coverage and I can connect to hspa+ on my i9300. It's so much faster than what I'm used to when I was on AT&T. I was only getting 0.5-1.5mbps on AT&T but now 5-6mbps on T-Mobile. When I'm in area that lacks coverage, I do get only EDGE though which is pretty darn slow
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What's your data plan wight TMobile ?
2gb or the 200 Mb data package ?
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What's your data plan wight TMobile ?
2gb or the 200 Mb data package ?
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Unlimited 4G plan with no cap or throttle.
I'm probably going to switch i9300 to new tmobile branded note 2 or S3 though. There is no coverage of 1900mhz when I'm around home area. Using EDGE is so painful...
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Unlimited 4G plan with no cap or throttle.
I'm probably going to switch i9300 to new tmobile branded note 2 or S3 though. There is no coverage of 1900mhz when I'm around home area. Using EDGE is so painful...
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Yeah.. I'm using the 200 Mb data plan with my i9300. Since we only getting edge for now , it is a waste of paying 25 dollars a month for 4g if we can't use the speed.. I'm in New York Brooklyn , and still can't get any 3g signals...
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is the fastest i9300 can go on. Tmobile
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Brooklyn new york here . in nyc ATT is the fastest for mobile data no question about it. I get an average of 6 mbit/s . some times up to 11 mbit/s I tried t mobile and the best i got was edge. under 100 kbit/s could barely make calls. I dont know about other cities or regions but in nyc ATT is king even though they suck .
You'll never get more than 2G. Unless you're in one of the new areas where they have out their new towers. You'll get 2G most of the time... There isn't a "hack" and there never will be... Its a hardware limitation.
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Samsung devices don't have the best history with Radio quality. I am debating an upgrade and trying to decide between a DNA and N2 on Verizon. I know the S3 and a few other recent Samsung devices have had problems with dropped calls, weak signals in fringe areas, etc. The DNA uses a Qualcom radio so it's pretty stable. It looks like the GN2 is still using their own in house radio design?
My wife's iPhone5 and my N2 seem to get the same signal strength everywhere we go.
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After coming from the galaxy nexus anything would be an improvement. But, actually the radio has been great for me
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The radio pales to the quality in the DNA (which is likely more due to antenna), but is miles ahead of the galaxy nexus.
Personally working in a 4G fringe area, I had better handoff on my thunderbolt than the N2. Both devices forced into 3G I think the thunderbolt performed better on 3g, while the N2 does better on 4G.
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After coming from the galaxy nexus anything would be an improvement. But, actually the radio has been great for me
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Just want to repeat this. On the galaxy nexus I had to keep my phone in 3G just so I wouldn't constantly drop data. This phone however has been great! My wife has the S3 and she also has great reception and data reliability so they must have fixed something.
It's the first Samsung phone that gets reception similar to my old Thunderbolt. My Droid Charge, Galaxy Nexus, and Galaxy S3 all got poorer reception than my GN2 and TBolt (the Droid Charge and the GNex were tied for worst).
Thanks for all the feedback here. How would you say 3G connectivity compares to an old Motorola Droid X (Current Phone)
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(the Droid Charge and the GNex were tied for worst).
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LOL, no kidding (I have had both devices)
Personally, I think the GNEX was the biggest POS ever made.
I actually loved my Droid Charge (i still have it somewhere) and after a TON of mods and radio swaps etc it was way way better than I could ever get the GNEX to work.
That being said, the N2 radio is hands down better than either one although it is not as good as the Rezound I still use occasionally and about equal to or maybe slightly better than my Wife's Galaxy S3.
the N2 radio is hands down better than either one although it is not as good as the Rezound
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Funny, I've only had the Note 2 a few days and haven't been in any good 4G areas yet, but I find so far that it's much better than my Rezound. Where I live I only have 3G, with 4G being across the lake.. my Rezound would pick up 4g for 30 seconds at a time very rarely (like once a week), and never transmit data, but the Note 2 gets 4g from there off and on pretty regularly, at least in my house. It's 3G signal also seems more consistent, at least going by signal bars and how it "feels" to use (haven't actually compared dBm). The Rezound would routinely drop it's data, sign out of Google Talk, take forever to re-establish it's connection, etc. I HAD to use it on WiFi or it was basically unusable. The Note 2 so far has been great.
While I have Zero issues its the radio, if your coming from a Motorola Device, it's not as good. Motorola just has killer radios. That being said, I have had no problems with the Note 2
I'm in an LTE market in Maryland and my signal is horrible. I can be only a couple feet away from any building entrance and my signal goes out. No 4G, no 3G... just straight up no signal. And the thing that kills me is that the icon will say it's on LTE. I have to be literally standing OUTSIDE to get a good internet connection. And tethering?.. forget it! My connection is intermittent at best. Frequently drops out to the point where I can't even download from XDA via the phone's browser. Love the Note II, been onboard since the first Note but... this is making me think either I have a bad radio or my choice to switch to Verizon from ATT wasn't a smart one. I need PRL's people. NOW!
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my choice to switch to Verizon from ATT wasn't a smart one. I need PRL's people. NOW!
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I'd say this is the problem
Incredible signal in Chicago.... No dropped 4g and call quality is far better than my Galaxy nexus.
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I'd say this is the problem
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Agreed!
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Coming from the rezound and a inc4g for a week, this phone is just as good as those radios. I can get a 4g signal inside my work where the S3 can't. The exynos set is absolutely badass on this phone and the reason I didn't buy a S3.
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While I have Zero issues its the radio, if your coming from a Motorola Device, it's not as good. Motorola just has killer radios. That being said, I have had no problems with the Note 2
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I beg to differ. I had the Razr Maxx before my Note 2 (and Droid X before that) and so far I'm getting exactly the same amount of signal everywhere I go. Best radio on a Samsung phone yet. Very happy with it.
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I'm in an LTE market in Maryland and my signal is horrible. I can be only a couple feet away from any building entrance and my signal goes out. No 4G, no 3G... just straight up no signal. And the thing that kills me is that the icon will say it's on LTE. I have to be literally standing OUTSIDE to get a good internet connection. And tethering?.. forget it! My connection is intermittent at best. Frequently drops out to the point where I can't even download from XDA via the phone's browser. Love the Note II, been onboard since the first Note but... this is making me think either I have a bad radio or my choice to switch to Verizon from ATT wasn't a smart one. I need PRL's people. NOW!
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PRL only effects the 3g side of the radio from what I've read. I would try to get a replacement device
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The radio here is southern orange county has been very good.. better then my Gnex.
I personally came from the Galaxy S3 and the difference in service quality is astounding. Before I got the GS3 I had a RAZR and had excellent service, with the GS3 I couldnt even send texts without hitting resend 5 to 10 times. I had to get something different so I went with the Note 2 and this phone has as good if not better service that all the Moto phones I have compared it with and has way better servixe that the GS3.
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due to the globalocity of the Rez and my VZW contract ending in April, I have purchased a T-Mobile Monthly SIM card online and will be trying out the data/call quality/etc. The plan I am eyeballing is $30 a month for unlimited data/text and 100 minutes.
After much searching, I am expecting that when I put this sim card in, 2 things will happen:
1. the superior radio and leaked global rom will allow me to get HSPA+ speeds on TMO network, make calls, send SMS/MMS, dance, and be merry.
2. once I re-insert my Verizon SIM card, it will be as if I never put the TMO card in, and my plan (including unlimited data) will remain intact.
are these the proper assumptions?
That would be nice, but unfortunately the Rezound radios have (so far) been unable to utilize the tmobile frequencies. Until it is figured out (it has been deemed impossible as yet) you will only be able to use edge network. Calling, sms, mms, and data all work. But data will be stuck at edge network.
The stock global leak may take some tinkering to get all parts working. I recommend a gsm compatible rom, as that will prove the least amount of effort on your end to get up and running.
Fair warning: edge network is usable.. But going from 25mbps to 120kbps is not a fun transition. I'm doing it myself, presently. Awesome devs for the Rez are the only things keeping me from buying a new phone that I can't afford.
Also, just to elaborate on going backward, as long as you don't port your number over (as that would cancel your vzw plan), you will be able to clean flash a cdma rom (or restore a nandroid) to get back on the Verizon network. I have yet to find a rom that allows both modes with everything working just from swapping the sim.
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Gotta love TMo getting shafted, or rather shafting themselves, by operating on such an odd frequency in the US
You can get hspa on tmobile with a gsm rom
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Tmo works fine on a gsm ROM. I lent mine to a buddy for a few weeks he loved it just no 4g
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Tmo works fine on a gsm ROM. I lent mine to a buddy for a few weeks he loved it just no 4g
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What about 3G? I just ordered a gs3 and my gf is getting my rezound
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3g works on gsm roms
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You can get hspa on tmobile with a gsm rom
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3g works on gsm roms
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Not on T-Mobile. Edge only.
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I m using edge on GSM network , it not that bad for browsing , but yes for video streaming it sucks
I am hating Verizon right now because my coverage is below par (1 bar 3g for 4 years). I dont care about the size of the Note 2 or Spent (using AOSP ROM). Should I sell Note 2 now or wait. Should I sell it at all? Really need your input
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If you're gonna sell it, sell it now before the valye drops.
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True. Will probably do so. Can I sell my account too? It is unlimited data and I heard you can sell accounts.
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If you have bad coverage for Verizon, I wonder if/why you believe it would be better with another service provider. Before jumping the gun why not get someone with another Note 2 on Verizon and or another Verizon smartphone to your house to see if it's not your particular phone. Also why not try to have other people with other networks over to your house to see what their bars are like? If may be that if Verizon has bad coverage in your area that it might not be that much better with other service providers. Lastly, if you wanted to keep your Note 2, which in really the best smartphone out there, and your unlimited why not just invest into a cell phone signal enhancer for your house, which would help with signal for your Note 2 and other other smartphone you get in the future?
If you like the Note 2 then you could just use a new carrier.
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Get a signal booster?
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Where do you live to have bad Verizon coverage? They are claiming that by the end of this year everywhere 3g is will be covered in 4g. Dunno if this is important to you. It would just be hard for me to go to a phone that has poor battery.
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If you're gonna sell it, sell it now before the valye drops.
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That is going to be a long time. My guess is for the next better half of the year, you can easily get 400-500.
But no SD card is a no go for me.
Mom has droid 4
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Where do you live to have bad Verizon coverage? They are claiming that by the end of this year everywhere 3g is will be covered in 4g. Dunno if this is important to you. It would just be hard for me to go to a phone that has poor battery.
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I live in the middle of a 4g area. Coverage sucks
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I live in the middle of a 4g area. Coverage sucks
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I guess I'm spoiled where I live. It everywhere around me and I get great signal.
What are good carriers near you. I'm sure you could sell or trade that note 2 but you should go to T-Mobile and play with a nexus 4. All I hear is how bad the battery is for a top end device. If you can tough it out in a few months nicer phones will be dropping.
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If you have bad coverage for Verizon, I wonder if/why you believe it would be better with another service provider. Before jumping the gun why not get someone with another Note 2 on Verizon and or another Verizon smartphone to your house to see if it's not your particular phone. Also why not try to have other people with other networks over to your house to see what their bars are like? If may be that if Verizon has bad coverage in your area that it might not be that much better with other service providers. Lastly, if you wanted to keep your Note 2, which in really the best smartphone out there, and your unlimited why not just invest into a cell phone signal enhancer for your house, which would help with signal for your Note 2 and other other smartphone you get in the future?
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In Portland, where my parents live even though Sprint, tmo, and Verizon show 100% coverage you get no reception whatsoever in their area unless you have AT&T. If people in the OP's same area get better coverage witg another carrier then why not switch? Why own a phone and go with a carrier if you can't even use it at home?
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there is a town(Rochester, IN) 1 hr west of me that has absolutely no Verizon coverage...you can not even buy a Verizon phone there lol. that being said just switch carriers and keep the note 2.
Op, you always start some sort of "should I do this" thread. This is America bro you are free to think and make your own decisions...take advantage of this freedom because one day you will no longer have that choice.
Yes you can sell your unlimited vzw account. There are a few for sale on ebay right now (you can sell for about $200). It just takes a call to vzw from you and then the buyer. It's as easy as that. *You do lose you phone number though.
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there is a town(Rochester, IN) 1 hr west of me that has absolutely no Verizon coverage...you can not even buy a Verizon phone there lol. that being said just switch carriers and keep the note 2.
Op, you always start some sort of "should I do this" thread. This is America bro you are free to think and make your own decisions...take advantage of this freedom because one day you will no longer have that choice.
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Well said. Make your own decisions, bro. Time to man up!
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Well darn op after all the work you went through hustling Verizon and lying to get them to send your a note for your s3 and you're gonna sell it?
To Your question the nexus is far inferior to me so I'd sell the note and buy a note from whatever carrier you switch to.
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I had always read that Samsung phones had signal issues on cdma networks. This is my first Samsung device after several HTC. My wife and I are both dropping calls daily in front of our house. I cannot hold a call in my front entry way. Our previous rezound and thunderbolts did not have this problem and neither do our kids droid DNAs.
I called Verizon about getting a network extender because other than signal issues, we love the notes. They want 300 for it. I refused. They sent out techs to check signal in our location and say we have 3 towers blanketing our area so it's the phone. Still won't give us a free network extender. They agree it's a device problem. They say they have no phone comparable to the note to switch to and said there was nothing they could do. I told them to send another note to try. I guess I will keep going through notes until they other me the new Motorola's in a couple of months. They did offer me an upgrade, but I'm not giving up unlimited data.
I might hold out and try to get the next HTC phone that drops, either DNA 2 or one.
It really sucks because otherwise this phone is the best but dropping calls daily really sucks...
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You could get one from eBay
http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_k...RELESS+CDMA/EVDO+NETWORK+EXTENDER+FOR+VERIZON
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Just hang in there, after you get a few replacements from VZ they will offer you a different model.
I think I'm going to hold out. It might take awhile. I'll only take a phone with 32gb of storage and a big battery unless it comes with sd card slot
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You could get one from eBay
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Thanks for the link, but I shouldn't have to buy extra equipment because Samsung can't make good cdma radios.
Curious if anyone else has wifi drops regularly. Both my phone and tablet drop and reconnect wifi pretty often. You see a message that briefly pops up.
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Thanks for the link, but I shouldn't have to buy extra equipment because Samsung can't make good cdma radios.
Curious if anyone else has wifi drops regularly. Both my phone and tablet drop and reconnect wifi pretty often. You see a message that briefly pops up.
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My note does not have any issues with wifi. Check that its the phone and not the router.... really really sounds like its not the phone.
As for signal issues, My note did have issues with verizon. i switched to AT&T with the same phone and its 10x better. Probably more to do with my area than actual reception problems though.
Interesting my note gets far better signal strength than my 2 previous HTC devices I had. The only thing I don't think it matches up to is Motorola who I believe build the best radios period.
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My note does not have any issues with wifi. Check that its the phone and not the router.... really really sounds like its not the phone.
As for signal issues, My note did have issues with verizon. i switched to AT&T with the same phone and its 10x better. Probably more to do with my area than actual reception problems though.
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Don't think it's the router because it happens on both my note 2 and note 10.1
at home and at work. Sometimes it will kill downloads, sometimes it's fast enough not to matter.
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Interesting my note gets far better signal strength than my 2 previous HTC devices I had. The only thing I don't think it matches up to is Motorola who I believe build the best radios period.
The signal strengths match in setting between Samsung and HTC, but HTC phones seem to hold lower signal better where Samsung just gives up and you lose the call. Also, Samsung is quicker to jump over to 3g while HTC holds onto that one bar of lte better.
This has been reproducible for me on multiple Samsung and HTC devices (2 notes, 2 thunderbolts, rezound, 2 DNAs)
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i've always had better signal strength with my Samsung devices vs HTC, with absolute best signal from Motorola devices.
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Don't think it's the router because it happens on both my note 2 and note 10.1
at home and at work. Sometimes it will kill downloads, sometimes it's fast enough not to matter.
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Just curious - are you running stock or have you unlocked and rooted?
try flashing a different modem
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try flashing a different modem
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Might try that, but pretty sure I've already flashed all of them at some point.
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Just curious - are you running stock or have you unlocked and rooted?
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I'm rooted running custom and wife is stock
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Just to follow up, took kids to dentist yesterday which is in a small town, outside of San Antonio. My phone had 1x, kids dnas had a couple of bars of 3g.
Swapped mine for a new note 2 (refurb) and is still dropping calls. Think I might just have to buy the extender...
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