Hey guys how's it going? Just picked up a LG G2 on Verizon this week and its my first time using android since the Galaxy Nexus back on Ice Cream Sandwich. Android has come such a long way since its amazing. Just kind of thinking out loud here but I'm almost considering going back to iOS. By now I thought android would be much smoother than what I have seen running AOSP 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs, not necessarily lag and the phone stuttering but the frame rate of the phone and scrolling just doesn't match iOS which is really a bummer. Does anyone else feel this way? I feel like Android is such a beautiful OS, Google Now is absolutely amazing and android is way better looking and complex than iOS but there's still a couple things that I did like about it. The music app by Google on the phone is pretty laggy and is a little tough to navigate IMO. Does anyone recommend any music players that are better?
Does anyone else feel the frame drop I am experiencing though? Would love to get my hands on a Nexus 5 because I know they have the best optimization possible in most cases.
Also Verizon guys because I know buttons are kind of different, am I gonna get used to thesr buttons or will a case make it any better? They're driving me crazy especially when the phone is laying on a table and I have to pick the phone up to turn it off.
datsyuk said:
Hey guys how's it going? Just picked up a LG G2 on Verizon this week and its my first time using android since the Galaxy Nexus back on Ice Cream Sandwich. Android has come such a long way since its amazing. Just kind of thinking out loud here but I'm almost considering going back to iOS. By now I thought android would be much smoother than what I have seen running AOSP 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs, not necessarily lag and the phone stuttering but the frame rate of the phone and scrolling just doesn't match iOS which is really a bummer. Does anyone else feel this way? I feel like Android is such a beautiful OS, Google Now is absolutely amazing and android is way better looking and complex than iOS but there's still a couple things that I did like about it. The music app by Google on the phone is pretty laggy and is a little tough to navigate IMO. Does anyone recommend any music players that are better?
Does anyone else feel the frame drop I am experiencing though? Would love to get my hands on a Nexus 5 because I know they have the best optimization possible in most cases.
Also Verizon guys because I know buttons are kind of different, am I gonna get used to thesr buttons or will a case make it any better? They're driving me crazy especially when the phone is laying on a table and I have to pick the phone up to turn it off.
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I have tried several AOSP roms on the G2 and I find the LG stock rom to be quicker, stable and better battery life etc... at this present time then AOSP. While the stable version was just released yesterday it still needs time to work out the kinks.
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I have tried several AOSP roms on the G2 and I find the LG stock rom to be quicker, stable and better battery life etc... at this present time then AOSP. While the stable version was just released yesterday it still needs time to work out the kinks.
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Yeah just curious as to what's going on because it still seems pretty choppy to me and I am even trying out the new runtime ART. Maybe I'll flash a stock ROM like Clean ROM. Honestly I played with a friends Moto X week or two ago on Verizon on 4.4 and was very impressed!
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Yeah just curious as to what's going on because it still seems pretty choppy to me and I am even trying out the new runtime ART. Maybe I'll flash a stock ROM like Clean ROM. Honestly I played with a friends Moto X week or two ago on Verizon on 4.4 and was very impressed!
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I encourage you to try Clean Rom. And download the trial version of PowerAmp. If you go back to iOS after to listening to this phone running poweramp on a stock based rom, it just wasn't meant to be. I came to this phone after an iphone and I'm telling you with a decent pair of headphones, this phone sounds amazing.
Buttons are a getting used to thing.
I keep turning the phone over to make sure I have it on the right one.
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Also Verizon guys because I know buttons are kind of different, am I gonna get used to thesr buttons or will a case make it any better? They're driving me crazy especially when the phone is laying on a table and I have to pick the phone up to turn it off.
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Stop complaining use knock on and knock off
LG G2
I came from an iPhone5 went for an S4 then this. Never looking back.
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jiteshj said:
Stop complaining use knock on and knock off
LG G2
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No knock off on AOSP
you need to realize that KitKat for LG G2 is in Alpha stage...which means it is not 100% more like 70%...ART isnt even working.
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I encourage you to try Clean Rom. And download the trial version of PowerAmp. If you go back to iOS after to listening to this phone running poweramp on a stock based rom, it just wasn't meant to be. I came to this phone after an iphone and I'm telling you with a decent pair of headphones, this phone sounds amazing.
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THIS! How would you compare your iPhone and your G2? Which one has the better sound with headphones? I mean, both set at the best settings you did on them. It is very important for me, as I can't decide between a G2, a Z1 and an iPhone 5S. I already own an iPhone 5. Had a lot of iPhones before though. I will even run the portable amp way witht them, I love my C&C BH and I love my ZO. :good:
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you need to realize that KitKat for LG G2 is in Alpha stage...which means it is not 100% more like 70%...ART isnt even working.
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I'm running CM11 Rom not posted on this site (it was but the thread was closed) theres a newer version floating around on that other site that is really good, and ART works just fine. I've been running it for a week with no problems at all.
I can't from iOS as well and the scrolling took me a little while to get used to. I don't notice it much now. I think it's just a difference in scrolling mechanics I think. That being said iOS bored me and in loving my g2
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xian_online said:
I'm running CM11 Rom not posted on this site (it was but the thread was closed) theres a newer version floating around on that other site that is really good, and ART works just fine. I've been running it for a week with no problems at all.
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what site is that?
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what site is that?
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/109073-rom-wip-cm11-for-lg-g2-vs980/
Someone tell me if I'm breaking some rule by linking to this.
Anyway, this is a great rom. Really stable for this early on, been running it for over a week. Switched to the kernel posted in the non carrier G2 dev section a few days ago, running spectacularly considering how new it is. The only really bad problem I'm having is the kernel broke the camera. Not all the time, it works sometimes, but it craps out sometimes. It has the same problems as the other ASOP roms are having (low benchmarks, the stock camera app has only 8mp cam (13mp works in other cams,) sound quality suffers compared to stock, etc) but generally its fast, smooth, stable, and I love it. I can't go back from kitkat now. Give it a shot!
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/109073-rom-wip-cm11-for-lg-g2-vs980/
Someone tell me if I'm breaking some rule by linking to this.
Anyway, this is a great rom. Really stable for this early on, been running it for over a week. Switched to the kernel posted in the non carrier G2 dev section a few days ago, running spectacularly considering how new it is. The only really bad problem I'm having is the kernel broke the camera. Not all the time, it works sometimes, but it craps out sometimes. It has the same problems as the other ASOP roms are having (low benchmarks, the stock camera app has only 8mp cam (13mp works in other cams,) sound quality suffers compared to stock, etc) but generally its fast, smooth, stable, and I love it. I can't go back from kitkat now. Give it a shot!
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eh verizon....I'm running tmobile
Just give it a little more time. Cm11 is going to run very very well.
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cckeeler said:
I can't from iOS as well and the scrolling took me a little while to get used to. I don't notice it much now. I think it's just a difference in scrolling mechanics I think. That being said iOS bored me and in loving my g2
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Still having a little trouble typing it seems...
But I came from iOS. I just couldn't stand it anymore, and needed a new change of pace. I feel like I've missed so much by not being on Android for so long.
Thanks the input, hopefully Cyanogenmod 11 picks up quickly for the G2. It runs pretty well Android has come such a long way the thing that drives me crazy the most about this is the way the scrolling works in Android, iOS has absolutely wonderful scrolling, elastic, and consistent. Flicks on Android are choppy in apps at times and not consistent on how it scrolls. SMS and iMessages sent a little quicker and more consistent as well but that's not a big deal. Miss iTunes a bit for music management too idk how to get my Recently Added playlist onto my device which I locally store all of the songs on it.
Also blows my mind but Google images when you scroll through is extremely laggy! Probably the most lag I've seen anywhere on the phone. You would think being their own website and me using Chrome that wouldn't happen haha.
That said Android is a beautiful OS, way more entertaining and options than iOS. Let's see if I can get used to it I have until January 15th I can get a full refund if I want to.
Not long ago, I was cleaning out my garage and checking out some old PCs, trying to clean up the harddrives before recycling.
The damn Windows Me was sure running "fast like hell". ... simple OS does run faster .. even on crappy HW.
(one thought crossed my mind ... how crazily-fast it would run on my current kick-ass HW ?)
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By now I thought android would be much smoother than what I have seen running AOSP 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs, not necessarily lag and the phone stuttering but the frame rate of the phone and scrolling just doesn't match iOS which is really a bummer. Does anyone else feel this way?
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I agree... However, I cannot cope with the limits of iOS, so I keep picking android phones.
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im on a rooted phone. on accasion, i experience lags on my phone.. its annoying.. how do i eliminate them?
Well first you have to find what is causing the lag? What apps do you have running? Are you over clocked or undervolted?
Are there any specific situations that are lagging?
Well it depends on the parts of the phone. So many things cause lag.
First of all, your CPU could be too slow, in that case you could (almost always) overclock it, so it runs faster.
Secondly, the amount of RAM affects performance A LOT as well. As a fix you could try running less applications.
And last, but not the least, some things cause unneeded stress on the cpu. You should really check the source of the problems.
I would install an app to check how much of your memory is free. Sounds to me like you dont have much free memory so your phone has to kill processes to make room for anything you want to do. This takes time which could be causing your lag
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Well first you have to find what is causing the lag? What apps do you have running? Are you over clocked or undervolted?
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its not the apps. and yes, im underclocked. but that isnt the reason for the lags because i overclocked and i still get lags. also, i dont want to overclock too much for the sake of the battery.
the 1st gen iphone is less powerful than my current phone, which is the htc inspire.. but it DOES NOT lag at all.. why is it that a 5 year old phone outperforms a relatively new phone?
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i would say when i scroll through the home screen, it seems like the screens are struggling to scroll. and when i dial buttons on my dialer to move through the menu options on a specific call with those options. the proximity sensor takes a long time to light up my phone when i take it off my ear to dial on my dialer. the iphone, on the other hand, takes a split sec. again, why is a less powered phone smoother than a more powerful phone?
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First of all, your CPU could be too slow, in that case you could (almost always) overclock it, so it runs faster.
NOT !!! if i do that, my battery drains big time, i aint gonna do that.
Secondly, the amount of RAM affects performance A LOT as well. As a fix you could try running less applications.
this is exactly what i do. i kill apps in task manager. and i also got advanced task manager installed.
And last, but not the least, some things cause unneeded stress on the cpu. You should really check the source of the problems.
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i wish there was a way to check for that.
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I would install an app to check how much of your memory is free. Sounds to me like you dont have much free memory so your phone has to kill processes to make room for anything you want to do. This takes time which could be causing your lag
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i got lots of free memory. 326mb are used and 295mb are free.
also, i got to reiterate something i said before that deserves great attentiopn in the android community. why the hell is it that the iphone 1st gen outperforms my htc inspire which has a faster processor and more memory? this is really mindboggling. i have read many people complain about this issue before. and they use the old, 5 year old iphone as a benchmark. both phones are based on linux. i suspect that the filesystem of android is far different that that of the iphone. i think this is the problem. its not the phone, its the android o/s. its really sad that an old ass iphone kicks android in the ass when it comes to lags free and smooth scrolling.
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its not the apps. and yes, im underclocked. but that isnt the reason for the lags because i overclocked and i still get lags. also, i dont want to overclock too much for the sake of the battery.
the 1st gen iphone is less powerful than my current phone, which is the htc inspire.. but it DOES NOT lag at all.. why is it that a 5 year old phone outperforms a relatively new phone?
i would say when i scroll through the home screen, it seems like the screens are struggling to scroll. and when i dial buttons on my dialer to move through the menu options on a specific call with those options. the proximity sensor takes a long time to light up my phone when i take it off my ear to dial on my dialer. the iphone, on the other hand, takes a split sec. again, why is a less powered phone smoother than a more powerful phone?
i wish there was a way to check for that.
i got lots of free memory. 326mb are used and 295mb are free.
also, i got to reiterate something i said before that deserves great attentiopn in the android community. why the hell is it that the iphone 1st gen outperforms my htc inspire which has a faster processor and more memory? this is really mindboggling. i have read many people complain about this issue before. and they use the old, 5 year old iphone as a benchmark. both phones are based on linux. i suspect that the filesystem of android is far different that that of the iphone. i think this is the problem. its not the phone, its the android o/s. its really sad that an old ass iphone kicks android in the ass when it comes to lags free and smooth scrolling.
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First off how do you know its not the apps? What rom are you running? Many things effect how fast a phone runs.
As for the Icrap. IT is easy to make an OS run smooth on a single set of hardware. Not to mention there are is alot less going on inside IOS then there is on android. To be honest most dont really care how IOS runs. Every OS has its issues.
I have no lag on my phone what so ever
A less powerful phone with an old os should be faster than a new phone with the newest os because the new phone has better screen res and clarity, lots of new features that use more ram and cpu, more technological features, many have powerful gpu's that do 1080p hd video etcetera and all that makes a huge impact on performance.
If you need proof check out http://ipod.about.com/od/decidingwhichipodtobuy/a/iphone_chart.htm that compares og iphone with all others and see how the features and chips etc have changed...and that's in an iphone which is not as advanced as its similar priced android rivals yet iphone performance for newer handsets is worse than original even with faster cpu.
Another difference is the og iphone does not multitask but stops things when you interact with it which produces a smoother user experience whereas android does not work in the same way.
Dave
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Just read a post where you said in another thread that your phone got slower after installing a different kernel but here you didn't mention that.
If you are experimenting with kernels and those kernels made it slower its not fair to then act as if your phone is a stock rooted android as posters need to know if you've messed with such vital part of the os in order to better reply.
Given you yourself said your phone slowed after messing with the kernel, the heart of the phone, isn't it better to restore original kernel to improve performance again or at least mention that issue in your post here?
Dave
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Just read a post where you said in another thread that your phone got slower after installing a different kernel but here you didn't mention that.
If you are experimenting with kernels and those kernels made it slower its not fair to then act as if your phone is a stock rooted android as posters need to know if you've messed with such vital part of the os in order to better reply.
Given you yourself said your phone slowed after messing with the kernel, the heart of the phone, isn't it better to restore original kernel to improve performance again or at least mention that issue in your post here?
Dave
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Couldn't agree more
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zelendel said:
First off how do you know its not the apps? What rom are you running? Many things effect how fast a phone runs.
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its not the apps cuz i got few of them and theyre low memory. i'm running virtuous unity v2.39.
As for the Icrap. IT is easy to make an OS run smooth on a single set of hardware. To be honest most dont really care how IOS runs. Every OS has its issues.
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1st of all (and not to defend apple), the iphone is not crap. if that were the case, i wouldnt have made this thread comparing the lag-free iphone with the cantdroid. 2nd, people DO care about smoothness.. a flood of people have complained about the lagness in android. 3rd, its NOT easy to make an o/s smooth. if that were true, this thread and people's complaints wouldnt exist. also, its a fact that android in tablet and phone are very laggy.. especially when comparing ipad and iphone to it.
i also read that the file system of android has to be rebuilt from the ground up to make it as smooth as iphone.. this is very sad.
I have no lag on my phone what so ever
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no offense, but i dont believe you, unless you got a no-sense launcher like launcherpro or 3rd party programs that make your phone "lag-free". i quote this cuz all the android phones i tested have lags or at least shudder when you flip through the panels in the home screen. the iphone doesnt have this problem.
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A less powerful phone with an old os should be faster than a new phone with the newest os because the new phone has better screen res and clarity, lots of new features that use more ram and cpu, more technological features, many have powerful gpu's that do 1080p hd video etcetera and all that makes a huge impact on performance.
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thats not rue for at least 2 reasons. #1, the iphone 4 has a high resolution. and its smoothness is far greater than many android phones with lower resolution. and #2, its been discussed before from the devs that android is laggy cuz of its file system.
Another difference is the og iphone does not multitask but stops things when you interact with it which produces a smoother user experience whereas android does not work in the same way.
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exactly my point, which makes ios far smoother than the android despite the specs.
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Just read a post where you said in another thread that your phone got slower after installing a different kernel but here you didn't mention that.
If you are experimenting with kernels and those kernels made it slower its not fair to then act as if your phone is a stock rooted android as posters need to know if you've messed with such vital part of the os in order to better reply.
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i installed a unity v9 kernel and it slowed my phone big time. i removed it by restoring a backup. its now as smooth as before installing the kernel - thank god. but its not as perfectly smooth as an iphone, unfortunately, which i wish it was.
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its not the apps cuz i got few of them and theyre low memory. i'm running virtuous unity v2.39.
1st of all (and not to defend apple), the iphone is not crap. if that were the case, i wouldnt have made this thread comparing the lag-free iphone with the cantdroid. 2nd, people DO care about smoothness.. a flood of people have complained about the lagness in android. 3rd, its NOT easy to make an o/s smooth. if that were true, this thread and people's complaints wouldnt exist. also, its a fact that android in tablet and phone are very laggy.. especially when comparing ipad and iphone to it.
i also read that the file system of android has to be rebuilt from the ground up to make it as smooth as iphone.. this is very sad.
no offense, but i dont believe you, unless you got a no-sense launcher like launcherpro or 3rd party programs that make your phone "lag-free". i quote this cuz all the android phones i tested have lags or at least shudder when you flip through the panels in the home screen. the iphone doesnt have this problem.
thats not rue for at least 2 reasons. #1, the iphone 4 has a high resolution. and its smoothness is far greater than many android phones with lower resolution. and #2, its been discussed before from the devs that android is laggy cuz of its file system.
exactly my point, which makes ios far smoother than the android despite the specs.
i installed a unity v9 kernel and it slowed my phone big time. i removed it by restoring a backup. its now as smooth as before installing the kernel - thank god. but its not as perfectly smooth as an iphone, unfortunately, which i wish it was.
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OK first your running software that was not built for your phone. It was built for another then ported over. Sense has been known to lag. As for not many apps you are wrong as you are running sense so that in itself is using alot of resources. Second my thought on the iPhone is that it is crap. Nothing more then a beginners smartphone. You can say its not and your have the right to your opinion.
From all of your posts you maybe better off with an iPhone as that seems to be what you want. Remember android is mainly targeted to people like developers and phone geeks that know what is going on under the hood and know how to tweak their OS to fit them.
As for my set up yes I don't run Sense. I am running a custom ICS rom. And no it doesn't lag. But then it doesn't have sense eating up the resources for no good reason.
Try rebooting. Always helps.
I have to agree with the sense comment, its notoriously slow even on some devices its designed for so can only imagine how bad it is on a device its not intented for.
Before you put custom rom on was the phone very laggy? My lg is smooth and is stock gingerbread with a delay upon opening some apps or if I have many apps open it can take time for other apps to initially respond but other than that I haven't got issues like you describe.
The problem with many roms is they are a wip so you can get lots of issues with them. If you have same issue with a stock rom then I would say an app manager would be useful so you can configure the auto start permissions as maybe it could help you.
Dave
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zelendel said:
OK first your running software that was not built for your phone. It was built for another then ported over. Sense has been known to lag. As for not many apps you are wrong as you are running sense so that in itself is using alot of resources.
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i got to disagree with you cuz before i installed virtuous unity, the phone was still shuddering a bit as i flipped through the panels on the home screen. and no, you asked me about apps, not resources.
Second my thought on the iPhone is that it is crap. Nothing more then a beginners smartphone. You can say its not and your have the right to your opinion.
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its not..if the iphone were crap it wouldnt be smoother than android and it wouldnt be the best selling phone on the market now. also, complaints about android smoothness abound the net. i havent read about the same issue with iphone. and lastly, another person on this thread agrees with the lagness on the android.
From all of your posts you maybe better off with an iPhone as that seems to be what you want. Remember android is mainly targeted to people like developers and phone geeks that know what is going on under the hood and know how to tweak their OS to fit them.
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i think youre better off with a laggy phone cuz that what it seems you like for some unknown reason. remember that iphone is mostly targeted for people who dont want to be frustrated with issues and who dont fool themselves into thinking that their phone is perfect. and trust me, if the iphone didnt have a small screen i wouldve left android a LONG time ago.
As for my set up yes I don't run Sense. I am running a custom ICS rom. And no it doesn't lag. But then it doesn't have sense eating up the resources for no good reason.
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yeah youre probly on MIUI. its a good rom from what i seen. i'll try a launcher like launcherpro and forget about sense. and i was thinking about turning my phone into an android phone 7. but if i do that, i probly run the risk of draining battery.
i'm a bit interested in MIUI but from those roms ive seen, they look butt ugly.. maybe you can recommend some MIUI for my htc inspire and themes that look cool.
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really?? wowww.. you saved my life. anywayz..
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I have to agree with the sense comment, its notoriously slow even on some devices its designed for so can only imagine how bad it is on a device its not intented for.
Before you put custom rom on was the phone very laggy? My lg is smooth and is stock gingerbread with a delay upon opening some apps or if I have many apps open it can take time for other apps to initially respond but other than that I haven't got issues like you describe.
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yes my phone was laggy before i installed the cutom rom.
The problem with many roms is they are a wip so you can get lots of issues with them. If you have same issue with a stock rom then I would say an app manager would be useful so you can configure the auto start permissions as maybe it could help you.
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hi mistermantality.. thank you for the comments. can you recommend an app that kills the auto start permissions on apps like you mentioned?
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i got to disagree with you cuz before i installed virtuous unity, the phone was still shuddering a bit as i flipped through the panels on the home screen. and no, you asked me about apps, not resources.
its not..if the iphone were crap it wouldnt be smoother than android and it wouldnt be the best selling phone on the market now. also, complaints about android smoothness abound the net. i havent read about the same issue with iphone. and lastly, another person on this thread agrees with the lagness on the android.
i think youre better off with a laggy phone cuz that what it seems you like for some unknown reason. remember that iphone is mostly targeted for people who dont want to be frustrated with issues and who dont fool themselves into thinking that their phone is perfect. and trust me, if the iphone didnt have a small screen i wouldve left android a LONG time ago.
yeah youre probly on MIUI. its a good rom from what i seen. i'll try a launcher like launcherpro and forget about sense. and i was thinking about turning my phone into an android phone 7. but if i do that, i probly run the risk of draining battery.
i'm a bit interested in MIUI but from those roms ive seen, they look butt ugly.. maybe you can recommend some MIUI for my htc inspire and themes that look cool.
really?? wowww.. you saved my life. anywayz..
yes my phone was laggy before i installed the cutom rom.
hi mistermantality.. thank you for the comments. can you recommend an app that kills the auto start permissions on apps like you mentioned?
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Ok first no I am not on MIUI. I would never touch it. I dont support stealing someone elses work. I am running a version of a CM rom done up by my team. You may have seen some of the roms from the Collective.
The iphone is the best selling phone because it is simple. Most people dont want to mess with their phone. If you think My phone lags you are sadly mistaken.
You say MIUI is butt ugly but it looks just like the Iphone
Now there are many things that can be done to help your phone. First would be to look for what is starting up on boot. Android assistent is a good one. Could try OC. I know you said you UC to save battery and I understand that but what do you expect to happen when you try to run it like that. You UC the CPU and you should expect things to run slower.
Comparing Android to IOS is like comparing a Mustang (Android) to a Kia (IOS) One is meant to be tweaked and adjusted the other is just meant to be used.
As for IOS being smother what do you expect? IT has alot less going on. No widgets to update, no multi tasking and no apps updating in the background.
Now through all your posts you have come across rude out of the gate. Let me give you a bit of advice. Relax man its a phone. No need to be rude.
Android does have issues, it's not perfect but ios has less things to handle so it should always be smoother.
If someone's having lag just flicking between screens in a launcher then there's something very wrong.
A replacement launcher can help, and configuring apps so they won't autostart will mean they will not start automatically which leaves more ram free. Use an app like gemini app manager from android market to do that.
Some apps also start just because you change from wifi to 3G etc and again you can configure these apps in the same way.
A program like setcpu can come in handy to improve cpu responsiveness from sleep state to waking for example but if the original stock rom was laggy it may be a faulty phone as not had homescreen lag like that.
I love my android phone, I can watch a high def 3D movie on it while downloading isos or music and I can play games on it and do photo editing etcetera so I am biased toward it but ios isn't rubbish its just not as feature rich but that also makes it smoother and at times less complex and therefore for some is a better option.
Dave
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Ok first no I am not on MIUI. I would never touch it. I dont support stealing someone elses work. I am running a version of a CM rom done up by my team. You may have seen some of the roms from the Collective.
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how are you stealing someone's work by installing miui? i came across works by the collective.. its ok.
The iphone is the best selling phone because it is simple. Most people dont want to mess with their phone. If you think My phone lags you are sadly mistaken.
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no, the iphone is the best selling phone cuz of its originality that android has copied. youre phone doesnt lag cuz its not sense based.
You say MIUI is butt ugly but it looks just like the Iphone
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you didnt post any links to themes like i asked. i'm thinking about installing either miui or cryogen. here are my questions to you about this:
1) can you install launcherpro and desktop virtualizer on a miui and cyrogen?
2) can you also turn it into an android phone 7 with these o/s's?
3) can you install any android app?
4) hows the batt life and performance on both miui and cryogen?
5) can you list a few cryogen roms that are best for battery and performance?
6) what are the pros and cons of miui/cryogen compared to sense?
Now there are many things that can be done to help your phone. First would be to look for what is starting up on boot. Android assistent is a good one. Could try OC. I know you said you UC to save battery and I understand that but what do you expect to happen when you try to run it like that.
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no, i think the best thing now is to install miui or cryogen. i'd like to know which is better for battery and performance though.
Comparing Android to IOS is like comparing a Mustang (Android) to a Kia (IOS) One is meant to be tweaked and adjusted the other is just meant to be used.
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you making the comparison of an iphone (kia) to a mustang (android) makes you look like einstein's opposite. when you make comments like that it makes me question your credibility as a mod, with all due respect. everyone knows iphone is smoother and therefore faster than android. anyone can see that.
As for IOS being smother what do you expect? IT has alot less going on. No widgets to update, no multi tasking and no apps updating in the background.
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exactly my point. but no, thats not entirely why iphone is smoother. its the file system structure that android lacks that makes it smoother. but youre also correct in that theres less background noise on ios.. but again, the primary reason is the file system.
Now through all your posts you have come across rude out of the gate. Let me give you a bit of advice. Relax man its a phone. No need to be rude.
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i havent been rude. its just that when i correct you with proof about this issue, youre quick to dismiss them, despite the proof. within your comments, you embed subtle disrespect. chill out dude and understand that youre fighting over a piece of metal called a phone. there are more things in the world worth fighting over than a phone.
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Android does have issues, it's not perfect but ios has less things to handle so it should always be smoother.
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i agree and disagree. both o/s's are linux based. but the file structure of iphone is different from android. thats why there are lags in android.
If someone's having lag just flicking between screens in a launcher then there's something very wrong.
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and that something wrong is called android. just look at the lag of a tablet compared to the smoothnes of an ipad and see the difference.
A replacement launcher can help, and configuring apps so they won't autostart will mean they will not start automatically which leaves more ram free. Use an app like gemini app manager from android market to do that.
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i will use launcherpro and desktop virtualizer.. but only if they work on miui and cryogen - i'm thining about installing either o/s's. and i tried to install gemini app manager, but the market said my htc inspire isnt conmpatible with it, which makes no sense whatsoever.
A program like setcpu can come in handy to improve cpu responsiveness from sleep state to waking for example but if the original stock rom was laggy it may be a faulty phone as not had homescreen lag like that.
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its in no way a hardware issue since i've tested out other phones of the samemodel.
ios isn't rubbish its just not as feature rich but that also makes it smoother and at times less complex and therefore for some is a better option.
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i totally agree.
binlad said:
how are you stealing someone's work by installing miui? i came across works by the collective.. its ok.
no, the iphone is the best selling phone cuz of its originality that android has copied. youre phone doesnt lag cuz its not sense based.
you didnt post any links to themes like i asked. i'm thinking about installing either miui or cryogen. here are my questions to you about this:
1) can you install launcherpro and desktop virtualizer on a miui and cyrogen?
2) can you also turn it into an android phone 7 with these o/s's?
3) can you install any android app?
4) hows the batt life and performance on both miui and cryogen?
5) which is better? miui or cryogen?
6) what are the pros and cons of miui/cryogen compared to sense?
no, i think the best thing now is to install miui or cryogen. i'd like to know which is better for battery and performance though.
you making the comparison of an iphone (kia) to a mustang (android) makes you look like einstein's opposite. when you make comments like that it makes me question your credibility as a mod, with all due respect. everyone knows iphone is smoother and therefore faster than android. anyone can see that.
exactly my point. but no, thats not entirely why iphone is smoother. its the file system structure that android lacks that makes it smoother. but youre also correct in that theres less background noise on ios.. but again, the primary reason is the file system.
i havent been rude. its just that when i correct you with proof about this issue, youre quick to dismiss them, despite the proof. within your comments, you embed subtle disrespect. chill out dude and understand that youre fighting over a piece of metal called a phone. there are more things in the world worth fighting over than a phone.
i agree and disagree. both o/s's are linux based. but the file structure of iphone is different from android. thats why there are lags in android.
and that something wrong is called android. just look at the lag of a tablet compared to the smoothnes of an ipad and see the difference.
i will use launcherpro and desktop virtualizer.. but only if they work on miui and cryogen - i'm thining about installing either o/s's. and i tried to install gemini app manager, but the market said my htc inspire isnt conmpatible with it, which makes no sense whatsoever.
its in no way a hardware issue since i've tested out other phones of the samemodel.
i totally agree.
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Android copied IOS? Really please do tell me how? Mainly as IOS took things from android like the notifications system. As for MIUI I explained in your other thread about why. I really think you need to do a little bit more research on what your doing. The questions you are asking about installing apps is android 101.
Now After Selling cellphone and plans for the past 10 years I think I know what sells an OS and what doesnt.
You are not correcting me. You have shown me no proof about IOS. You can say its better and I can say its not. It is all about what someone wants and needs. Like I have an old 4G that my GF used as a starter smartphone that lags and sits in a drawer. No OS is perfect so there is no point in arguing about it.
Your right my phone doesnt lag due to being sense less. Not to mention over clocked to 1.2 with 30 hr battery life.
As for what are the pros and cons of each. There are many to each. Doing some research will give you all the info you know.
Now you really seem not to like Android and will never be happy with it. Nothing anyone can do or say will be able to make you happy.
Remember this is a development site so you are expected to put in a little work, like search and reading. No I will not link you to themes that are easy to find. We dont spoonfeed here.
As for me comparing the cars to the OS it is very accurate. Android is made to be tweaked and messed with. If you cant see the diff then I am sorry. Trying to insult people is really kinda pointless. Mainly when your the one asking for help. Let alone insulting someone that has been modding phones long before you knew what modding a phone was.
As for installing other OS on android. The simple answer is no. The only phone that can dual boot Different OS is the HD2 and other WM devices that can boot android.
So here is what I will say. Try them all out and make up your own mind. Now one will be able to tell you what you like and what will work best for you. Android is about tweaking and making it your own.
Buy an iPhone and stop playing dumb. You clearly do not understand, and do not want understand a single thing.
Just pre-ordered an HTC One X + from AT&T today. Comes with JB 4.1 I believe. Coming from iPhone (jailbroken of course.) I see there was also a recent announcement, something about 4.2 being released by Google to VOSD. Read some of the improvements in 4.2 and would love to have them. But frankly, I don't want to spend hours futzing with my phone or risk bricking it. On the other hand, I don't want to wait 6 months for HTC to release a 4.2 update.
Without any prior experience can someone throw me a bone. Will there be a 4.2 ROM here I can download that will be stable and how long do you estimate before it is available versus waiting for HTC?
I've heard good things about Sense, but if I consider myself to now be a lifelong Android user, isn't it better to get used to using a vanilla version of the OS instead of using some manufacturer-specific overlay like Sense? So should I install a custom ROM no matter what from that perspective or will I loose to many conveniences/features specific to the phone?
Finally, will I be able to go back to stock HTC ROM (whatever is the most recent version) for warranty/resale purposes if I don't wait for the HTC upgrades?
I believe the JB 4.2 was only released yesterday with the sale opening for the Nexus 4/10. I am not really bothered as there are only "cosmetic" updates anyway like this orb pic shooting cam setting and dop down notification.
I got my HOX+ yesterday, after being very happy with the HOX since it was releases in April. And I have to say, so far unlocking/rooting the HOX + is not really necessary or a thing that needs to be done as soon as the batterry has charged to full the very first time you have it in your hands.
HOX+ with HTCs Sense is running very well, smooth as hell. And while I don't like the Sense launcher as it is restricting too much my daily use, I find alternative launcher much better..they provide amazing eye candy. In particular the Apex launcher is worth to have a look at.
But the integration of Sense is the background is just great, Contacts/phone/social media integration is basically perfect, as is the Google calender and in particular Google Now.
There also is a noticable improvement with the sound quality, and sound is mind blowing with the alternative player PowerAmp.
Development will take off for the HOX+ soon, and devs are already on it. Once CWM is up and running I will also unlock/root, if only for for the adblock
I am not a fan of AOSP as it is too stripped down for me. But that is pure personal taste.
Give the development a few weeks, in my opinion the HOX+ is already coming out of the box an amazing piece of technology, and Sense together with JB 4.1.1 is a very good user experience!
So in a way, it seems you could consider Sense a package of apps/features, that you might otherwise install over the vanilla OS anyway? I suppose when I think about it, I spent hours to jailbreak and install Cydia apps on my iPhone to customize how the lock screen works, notification works, the spring board works, the wallpapers work, etc. So even though iOS interface is consistent from version to version, I always modify it to my liking - essentially building my own "Sense" for iPhone.
One thing I don't like is bloatware - apps installed that I don't need but can't install. And I'm sure the AT&T One X+ comes with plenty of it? (At least in Windows PC's you can uninstall the stuff.) So my gut is telling me I will still probably end up rooting and going with a custom ROM anyway. I'm mainly looking for stability and consistency for years to come, despite what device I own. Not that learning a new interface "flavor" has a steep learning curve, but it would be nice to "standardize" on one "flavor" be it Sense or CM10 + some specific launcher app, etc etc. To be honest I don't have hours and hours to experiment anymore so it may be best to take what HTC gives me and be done with it. But I know I will crave 4.2 when available just to see what's improved (I've read about it - not groundbreaking but better), so I guess I'll probably cave and give at least one custom ROM a try. Makes the phone more unique too, which is kind of a novelty. But ya, this stuff we are talking about is foreign to probably 90% of the smartphone users out there. So the devices wouldn't sell as well as they do if they had issues or were hard to use out of the box!
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I believe the JB 4.2 was only released yesterday with the sale opening for the Nexus 4/10. I am not really bothered as there are only "cosmetic" updates anyway like this orb pic shooting cam setting and dop down notification.
I got my HOX+ yesterday, after being very happy with the HOX since it was releases in April. And I have to say, so far unlocking/rooting the HOX + is not really necessary or a thing that needs to be done as soon as the batterry has charged to full the very first time you have it in your hands.
HOX+ with HTCs Sense is running very well, smooth as hell. And while I don't like the Sense launcher as it is restricting too much my daily use, I find alternative launcher much better..they provide amazing eye candy. In particular the Apex launcher is worth to have a look at.
But the integration of Sense is the background is just great, Contacts/phone/social media integration is basically perfect, as is the Google calender and in particular Google Now.
There also is a noticable improvement with the sound quality, and sound is mind blowing with the alternative player PowerAmp.
Development will take off for the HOX+ soon, and devs are already on it. Once CWM is up and running I will also unlock/root, if only for for the adblock
I am not a fan of AOSP as it is too stripped down for me. But that is pure personal taste.
Give the development a few weeks, in my opinion the HOX+ is already coming out of the box an amazing piece of technology, and Sense together with JB 4.1.1 is a very good user experience!
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Just to chime in. I'm coming from 4 years of iPhone (still have my 4S and from the day I turned on the X+, I was in wow factor! Device runs SMOOTH as heck, responsiveness is more than I expected, just overall Great experience overall. That being said, I still want to be able to customize it even more. My iPhone had all the tweaks, theming, etc that truly made it my experience. So, i'm new to the whole "rooting" for Android devices as I'm a Mac guy also, but have a PC on standby waiting for instructions.
I'm really excited to actually take the dive in Android and especially with this particular device!
sense UI is the best for me among all the launchers.
i don't mind 4.1.1 vs 4..2 i don't think there's much changes anyways.
I have Jellybean 4.2 on my Nexus 7 and my old GNex. It is really buggy and the UI changes suck. There is battery drain, slow charging, instability and BT is broken. I rather have a stable Jellybean 4.1 and get a stable 4.2 in a few months on my Hox+.
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Just to chime in. I'm coming from 4 years of iPhone (still have my 4S and from the day I turned on the X+, I was in wow factor! Device runs SMOOTH as heck, responsiveness is more than I expected, just overall Great experience overall. That being said, I still want to be able to customize it even more. My iPhone had all the tweaks, theming, etc that truly made it my experience. So, i'm new to the whole "rooting" for Android devices as I'm a Mac guy also, but have a PC on standby waiting for instructions.
I'm really excited to actually take the dive in Android and especially with this particular device!
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I had a 4S for a time. Customising it was a pain in the arse. I'll be glad if I never see cydia again . You can customise a lot of android without needing to root. But some things like taskbar icons, transparency effects for system apps, bootlogo's, system transition effects ect. You need to be rooted for.
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I had a 4S for a time. Customising it was a pain in the arse. I'll be glad if I never see cydia again . You can customise a lot of android without needing to root. But some things like taskbar icons, transparency effects for system apps, bootlogo's, system transition effects ect. You need to be rooted for.
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Is there a verified working root for us ATT users yet? Saw a lot of talk about one which is why I'm asking. If so, any moon steps on how to root? I need it mainly for titanium backup to backup data files too and more tweaks.
Also hope someone can fix the broken Steele headset controls for this dang phone. All u can do is pause and play tracks from your wired or Bluetooth headset. Can't change tracks nor adjust volume from your stereo headset, huge fail for me! At the gym 5 days a week for hours and nothing worse then pulling this link out of my pocket the whole workout to manually change tracks and adjust volume for certain songs.
Hi Guys,
Now that 4.4 Kit Kat has been announced, i see a mad rush of people asking when will we get it and stuff. My question is what are the changes you are looking forward from Kit Kat that makes your phone great. Is there any one single must have feature in Kitkat, that you want badly. Answer for me is NO.
4.2.2. is running absolutely fine on G2, it pretty much flies, gives a great battery life as well. I would rather have LG take 3-4 months and then deliver a good clean bug free version, rather then deliver half cooked ROM to just rush it. 4.3 was just an OK update, and so is 4.4.
So guess we should just enjoy our phone right now, and not worry too much about 4.4. It will come when it has to, for now there is not even one single thing that 4.4 can do but not 4.2.2.
Have fun and keep smiling.
A very happy G2 Owner.
It's the latest & greatest from Google.
We all want KitKat, trust me
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It's the latest & greatest from Google.
We all want KitKat, trust me
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Latest yes, but greatest, a question mark. Also i am not in denial that we don't want it, my question is what is the rush. It will def come, but what is the feature that you want from Kit Kat to work right now on your phone.
All you need to know
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Yes we all want KitKat!
The one and only reason for me....
Host Card Emulation! No for stupid secure elements for Google Wallet!
Because it's new. Nuff said
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because our G2 is not yet as smooth as it could/should be
There's Always that one guy that no matter how good the thing that everyone wants is he will without fail post up how he doesn't want it.....
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guys, to be fair, when jellybean came out, it absolutely 100 percent ruined the galaxy s3. who knows if LG has optimized their ui properly for kitkat yet.. Samsung sure didn't until pretty much recently.. and its still laggy. if any of you had an s3, youd probably remember how fast, smooth and zippy the phone was when it launched and had ics. it was the best phone I'd ever used. then jellybean came.. and it was awful. everything became laggy, slow, frame rate dropped horrendously.. it was just terrible. so yeah, i agree with this guy.. then again I'm rooted so i have a choice lol
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After running almost every release of ICS and JellyBean on my Gnex, I can say the "behind the scenes" improvements Google made in 4.3 made the phone a LOT smoother/faster. I know they did a lot of work in regards to memory usage, garbage collection, etc.
It also looks like they may have continued that work in 4.4, and if thats the case I would expect it to be another update that we would actually WANT, vs the original JellyBean releases.
There isnt really anything I *have* to have in KitKat, but once the third party ROMs mature Im sure Ill install it. I just find it funny that 4.3 nightlies JUST started a couple weeks ago, and now we're already looking at KitKat coming up.
Again as I said I absolutely want it, just that there is no rush or burning desire to have it today.
Let LG take sometime and give us a good rom, till then I am pretty good.
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Yes we all want KitKat!
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Host Card Emulation! No for stupid secure elements for Google Wallet!
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I am with you on that - thanks for making me aware of this feature of 4.4 !
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I am with you on that - thanks for making me aware of this feature of 4.4 !
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Did Google release the 3.10 kernel with Kitkat?
The full screen mode when using aps I would definitely love. Those nav buttons take up a lot of space when playing games and using some apps.
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I'm looking forward to the native IR Blaster support so we can get some really good remote control apps that work across all devices that have IR Blasters (ONE, G2, S4, Note3, etc...)
I agree with a previous post about how much smoother 4.3 was over 4.2 and how 4.4 looks even better. So I want that. G2 already has almost no lag in my experience so I am excited to see it on 4.3 or 4.4. Also I want to get this device above 4.3 for the Trim Support. Every Android Device and ROM I have used have been great for a few weeks then bit by bit t h e y s l o w down. So it will be good to not have that issue much longer.
But right now I am surprised by how much I like the LG Skin. I hope for 4.3 or 4.4 versions that they keep it at the current level, don't add more to compete with Sammie, and just refine what they have already.
The native IR support is what makes me want 4.4 the most. At first I thought it was kind of gimmicky until I realized that it has much more use to me than I could have imagined. I work in the AV industry and being able to control displays in the field from my phone is a huge help.
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I heard that Kitkat has better ram and also power management. Is it really that significant?
I'm more concern on the battery life though
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I'm pretty sure that LG had access to KitKat sources long ago, since July at least and steady working on porting to G2
The must have features are: OpenGL 3.0 ES support, and navbar customization and hiding. W/o these features G2 is like a large bit crippled
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Hi Guys,
Now that 4.4 Kit Kat has been announced, i see a mad rush of people asking when will we get it and stuff. My question is what are the changes you are looking forward from Kit Kat that makes your phone great. Is there any one single must have feature in Kitkat, that you want badly. Answer for me is NO.
4.2.2. is running absolutely fine on G2, it pretty much flies, gives a great battery life as well. I would rather have LG take 3-4 months and then deliver a good clean bug free version, rather then deliver half cooked ROM to just rush it. 4.3 was just an OK update, and so is 4.4.
So guess we should just enjoy our phone right now, and not worry too much about 4.4. It will come when it has to, for now there is not even one single thing that 4.4 can do but not 4.2.2.
Have fun and keep smiling.
A very happy G2 Owner.
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Open gl 3.0?
4.2.2 Very smal Lag...
beter Keyboard...
Beter Browser...
int itn
Android 4.4 is good for Lg G2
I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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No, you're, definitely, not insane and you're not alone on this! Exactly, my feelings. I've never thought that one day I'll start liking one manufacturer's skin/UI better than stock Android. But, it happened. And as a result, I've purchased the Xperia Z Ultra. Couldn't be happier more. It's the best phone I've ever owned.
I have to say/admit that I've faced more stability issues on CM more than Sony's firmwares. And for speed : Yes, it's definitely faster! IMHO, Sony's software engineers are done an excellent job for optimizing the software in the best possible way. There is zero lag, zero glitches etc. Just, very buttery smooth experience.
After the Mr. Kazuo Hirai's becoming the presiden and the CEO of Sony, many things have been changed fundamentally and noticeably. They got their innovation back as it was in 90s and 80s and one more time, started to make some unique products (QX10/QX100, first mirrorless Full-Frame camera except Leica : A7/A7r etc.) like walkman back in the day.
Hopefully, they'll keep this momentum and innovation as long as they can and we will benefit/enjoy of these great products.
Cheers,
Tarkan
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I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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No you're right, sony have done it right!
They've allowed you to keep the fluidity of stock android and have given you customization that dont slow the phone down
I couldnt be happier with my Z Ultra
It used to be that the smartphone SoC was very limited in terms of capability so a clean ROM is the better choice. But with rapid development and less bloat on Sony's UI (+cool design) and slower Android upgrade it is clearly better now. So yeah, not that much reason should i jump to CM ROM again (unlike previous RAZR MAXX of mine) for now Maybe if the Android 5.0 come out in the future i guess but for now no..
brashmadcap said:
I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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I Concur! I've had this device for about three months, & I really enjoy it also! I purchased it with the Sony UI in mind and sure enough it did not disappoint. I wasn't upset to see the Google edition released so soon after I bought this one. This is really the longest I've ever went without root also, as most prior phones did not make the 30 day mark.
I honestly would be happy with root access on the stock Sony Rom, however with all the confusion of root methods / model numbers / TA partitions / possibility of losing LTE, I'm just really trying to be patient. I kept in mind that buying such a large (under the radar phone) my slow my ability to tinker with it, but it's beginning to a bit of a hassle without root.
I recently accepted the 4.3 update, & the speed and mellow performance was noticed immediately. I was trying to stay on 4.2 as I had read different threads saying it was able to be rooted as oppose to 4.3 .290 but as of recently that seems to have changed now... This whole phone's process seems extremely confusing, and I'm tired of reading different contradicting threads .....and it's never a good idea to start playing with your phone when your frustrated & uninformed so I guess I'll just hang out a bit longer until things seem clearer....
I am with you guys.
Although on Note 2 I did not go with any AOSP except from the usual testing, but always came back to stock because of Spen features.
With the Ultra, this stock rom is so light, smooth and plus I keep the phone features plus it has been designed better to use the larger screen...I am VERY impressed with the Sony Rom so I dont see myself flashing anything but Sony based Roms.
I enjoy my phone now more than just using it to flash new stuff trying to get it to be better
Ah after I try a lot of custom ROM
monxDIFIED is my daily ROM
It is Sony base because I prefer stock app
FM Radio
Stock Camera
If I can install two stock app in CM base ROM like Carbon ROM
I may think using CM base ROM as my daily drive
That's common and you are not alone. I too am using the Stock 4.3 without any intention of flashing other ROMs (I do really love flashing as I had nearly flashed every Android phone I have ever owned)
I'm back on stock after a day on GPe. I love AOSP and the GPe ROM is amazing, but I tend to always end up back on stock again. Not sure what it is, but it's solid as a rock, and I know exactly how it works and what it does. No surprises. I feel safe using it, so I guess that's why? Xposed has also changed the way I use ROMs. No longer do I have to flash ROMs if I want a weird feature, I just install a module. I feel like I don't have to flash anything these days, except for when I want a different environment/UI.
In not that tired of Sony's UI quite yet (but I'm slowly getting there), but I'll probably migrate to the GPe full time down the road. BUT, official 4.4 is on its way, so it'll be really exciting to see how it'll be.
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I'm back on stock after a day on GPe. I love AOSP and the GPe ROM is amazing, but I tend to always end up back on stock again. Not sure what it is, but it's solid as a rock, and I know exactly how it works and what it does. No surprises. I feel safe using it, so I guess that's why? Xposed has also changed the way I use ROMs. No longer do I have to flash ROMs if I want a weird feature, I just install a module. I feel like I don't have to flash anything these days, except for when I want a different environment/UI.
In not that tired of Sony's UI quite yet (but I'm slowly getting there), but I'll probably migrate to the GPe full time down the road. BUT, official 4.4 is on its way, so it'll be really exciting to see how it'll be.
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Im back running stock UI as well (own rom with Dogg tweaks), and am more or less happy with it.
Cant wait for 4.4 stock (not here today yet)
I had a Nexus 7 and I ran AOKP, I had an Nexus 4 and I ran AOKP, I had a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and I ran CyanogenMod. Today I switched to Sony Xperia Z Ultra and I don't want to switch to AOSP. It never happened before, but I feel like Stock ROM is good
my galaxy tab is always on another rom, after that i had asus padfone, which had no development at all. and z ultra makes me not want to change to another rom at all. loving the stock, dunno why. I'm still on 4.2 and for me it's pretty smooth and fluid already i dont even need to upgrade.
Recently get an OTA for 4.3, but there's no way to root it in a simple way. tempting to root using jackie's way or flashing monx but im still too lazy to do it, still enjoyin my current 4.2 haha
I think sony did a good job here
I'm with you too dude. For me it's close enough to stock not to piss me off, their skin is simple and black base (better for battery), and I like some of the bloatware too.
I have deleted a lot, but that's another thing I like, I was able to delete or freeze most of what I didn't want without needing root. On touchwizz practically nothing could be deleted without root.
For me, Sony have worked it really well, bugs aside, and 290 is perfect IMHO except bluetooth.
I love cm, don't get me wrong, I just don't need it as much with Sony as I did with Samsung.
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Same here, actually i'm still on 4.2.2. Still amazed with stock rom, looks good and stays smooth and fast. I can endless opening apps, not any hick up. OOM works unnoticed, and don't need to restart device. On my old LG 3d i changed roms and kernels continously. My son his tab2 flashed a hour after purchase. My Acer A700 running CM10.1 unfortunately my daughter jumped on screen i need to order new screen/digitizer.
But i'm surpised with myself that i'm still on stock and don't want to flash. Only reason for me to flash would be working miracast with my LG 55LM750S.
I'm back on the GPe ROM I was bored yesterday, so the only thing to do when i'm bored is to install or flash something. I'm still amazed how everything is running so smooth and i have still to find a bug. I haven't found a single one. I find it funny that we went from AOSP ROMs that had their fair share of problems, to a AOSP ROM that is perfect like THAT.
I guess i'll keep using GPe for now, but i find some small things to be a little annoying. The volume is rather strange. It can be really quiet on one level, and be really loud on the next one, which makes it very annoying since i have to try to find the sweet spot. The stock ROM is much better at this. The quick toggles are also quite bad. Why do i have to press and HOLD to activate/deactivate a feature? Why can't i just tap a toggle like on CM? One tap on AOSP will open the settings for that feature, and someone at Google should be shot in the face. Well, that's about it really
I agree, been on and off Cm9-10 for years with some stints on Samsung's JB, but these ROMs rock. Only complaint is WIFI is a bit flakey. I don't even have a reason to root.
I have both a C6833 and Tablet Z.
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With my ex Galaxy S3 I went from stock to CM in like 4/6 months, and from there I just wanted to change phone like every day.
I guess I just want this to be my phone for a long time, therefore I'll wait to transform it to see if the stock rom satisfies me long enough to get to the official 4.4.2 update.
Which, I bet will be the last "quick" update.
After that I'm sure we will see 4.5, but at a super slow pace.
Anyway, I need time to install and backup everything to begin trying the GPe, and with a 6yo daughter and a 40days son I really don't have much left... XD
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With my ex Galaxy S3 I went from stock to CM in like 4/6 months, and from there I just wanted to change phone like every day.
I guess I just want this to be my phone for a long time, therefore I'll wait to transform it to see if the stock rom satisfies me long enough to get to the official 4.4.2 update.
Which, I bet will be the last "quick" update.
After that I'm sure we will see 4.5, but at a super slow pace.
Anyway, I need time to install and backup everything to begin trying the GPe, and with a 6yo daughter and a 40days son I really don't have much left... XD
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Congrats! I guess that's why we haven't really seen you around here that much lately, but you have a brand new boy in your house now so that's expected
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Congrats! I guess that's why we haven't really seen you around here that much lately, but you have a brand new boy in your house now so that's expected
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Thanks! I try to keep up with everything but now even Tapatalk is against me (meaning the new interface is fugly as hell).
Anyway, I'm curious, does the GPe support multiple users like on the Nexus 7? It is a fantastic feature as it keeps my daughter within the fence of her few apps...
That may be a feature I'd be interested in...
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Thanks! I try to keep up with everything but now even Tapatalk is against me (meaning the new interface is fugly as hell).
Anyway, I'm curious, does the GPe support multiple users like on the Nexus 7? It is a fantastic feature as it keeps my daughter within the fence of her few apps...
That may be a feature I'd be interested in...
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Hmm, i have no idea. I think it "pops up" when you activate tablet mode. I know that CM supports it though, but since GPe build is strictly made for the ZU, Sony may have removed the feature (i can't prove it though).
The Nexus 10 was the first 10" tablet I had and it was the most enjoyable tablet I had. Haptic feedback, camera flash, two decent sounding speakers, and the screen size were all pretty nice bonuses.
I'm looking to buy another tablet in the future. Ideally, I want 10" or larger, and the ability to use custom ROMs (does the N10 still have official Cyanogenmod support?) or even better, native Linux. The Nexus 10 seems pretty affordable nowadays, and as long as I can throw a clean ROM onto it (AOSP or CM), I'd be pretty good to go.
So, would a Nexus 10 be a good investment nowadays, or is there another tablet that would be a better choice?
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The Nexus 10 was the first 10" tablet I had and it was the most enjoyable tablet I had. Haptic feedback, camera flash, two decent sounding speakers, and the screen size were all pretty nice bonuses.
I'm looking to buy another tablet in the future. Ideally, I want 10" or larger, and the ability to use custom ROMs (does the N10 still have official Cyanogenmod support?) or even better, native Linux. The Nexus 10 seems pretty affordable nowadays, and as long as I can throw a clean ROM onto it (AOSP or CM), I'd be pretty good to go.
So, would a Nexus 10 be a good investment nowadays, or is there another tablet that would be a better choice?
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I bought mine in Dec. of 2012 and still use it every day. I've tried a lot of ROMs in the last 3 years, but I keep coming back to the rooted stock ROM (link below). It 's still getting regular security updates and just seems to run the best. I find no reason to go out and buy anything newer, this tab just keeps going and going. I say Go For It!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-10/development/rom-21-11-2014-t2948203
I think N10 is still a good tablet (I'm writing this on mine), especially if you don't intend to run modern games on it. For browsing , youtube and occasional simple productivity tasks - it's just great. Mine is 2 years old now and I think I'll keep it for another year at least. Will try putting marshmellow on it though, I'm just curious like that
As for alternatives, I'd say Sony xperia Z4 tablet is by far the best tablet out there right now. A friend got it recently and it's just great, really. Light, thin, great display (same resolution as N10) and battery life. And it has microsd slot. And you can even put AOSP on it, becase Sony provides binaries. Check it out, but it's probably like twice the price of N10.
My Nexus 10 is two years old and I still love it, although it's starting to chug a little more when switching between apps. I don't know that I would buy one today unless it's brand new (probably hard to find these days) and you got a decent deal on it.
I like my wife's Nexus 9, particularly the aspect ratio. I just wish it had that extra inch of screen space.
My N10 runs fast and smooth. I use stock rooted rom. It runs best on the stock rom.
I bought mine two months ago used. Running stock 5.1.1 and it's a bit slow but for what I use which is solely for media consumption it's great. Nice screen real estate and loud speakers.
Yes! I bought mine used aswell , and Running Marshmallow on it very well, very smooth and fast. Nothing to complaint.
I've had mine for a number of years now. Overall I've been pleased with it until recently. I'm having Wifi issues that drive me crazy. Also, it appears there's a major problem with YouTube that causes the tablet to reboot after only a few seconds of video. I get the feeling the device is just not getting the love from the Google developers that it needs.
My parents own one and have the known " yellow smudge" on the display. I would consider a different tablet.
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I've had mine for a number of years now. Overall I've been pleased with it until recently. I'm having Wifi issues that drive me crazy. Also, it appears there's a major problem with YouTube that causes the tablet to reboot after only a few seconds of video. I get the feeling the device is just not getting the love from the Google developers that it needs.
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I'm having the same YouTube problem and it's driving me crazy because that's all I use this tablet for anymore. It's basically useless now.
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I'm having the same YouTube problem and it's driving me crazy because that's all I use this tablet for anymore. It's basically useless now.
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I use mine 85% to view YouTube and over the holidays I finally ditched it and got the Nexus 9.
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Yes! I bought mine used aswell , and Running Marshmallow on it very well, very smooth and fast. Nothing to complaint.
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which M rom are you running ? and is there any big difference in performance on it from the stock 5.1.1?
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I'm having the same YouTube problem and it's driving me crazy because that's all I use this tablet for anymore. It's basically useless now.
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Have you tried clearing the YouTube app cache? This seems to work for me (at least for a good while).
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which M rom are you running ? and is there any big difference in performance on it from the stock 5.1.1?
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Hi, im using OmniRom from scanno, you can find it here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-10/orig-development/rom-t3045066)
There are nice differences yes, I find it smoother and with also better battery life. It works very good in every task I do. Although, I find stock 5.1.1 pretty good also but sometimes I had some crashes on youtube and slowing down performance when using it. If you have more specific questions I would be glad to answer if I can. You should try the ROM !!!
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I'm having the same YouTube problem and it's driving me crazy because that's all I use this tablet for anymore. It's basically useless now.
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In last stock 5.1.1 update I tried to watch 1440p on youtube and my nexus got freezed and rebooted every time I played that resolution. BUT then I flashed OmniRom 6.0.1 and now im able to play 1440p youtube vídeos without trouble!!! The difference onthis display is exquicite. You can find omni ROM here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-10/orig-development/rom-t3045066
I hope this can save your nexus.
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espionage724 said:
The Nexus 10 was the first 10" tablet I had and it was the most enjoyable tablet I had. Haptic feedback, camera flash, two decent sounding speakers, and the screen size were all pretty nice bonuses.
I'm looking to buy another tablet in the future. Ideally, I want 10" or larger, and the ability to use custom ROMs (does the N10 still have official Cyanogenmod support?) or even better, native Linux. The Nexus 10 seems pretty affordable nowadays, and as long as I can throw a clean ROM onto it (AOSP or CM), I'd be pretty good to go.
So, would a Nexus 10 be a good investment nowadays, or is there another tablet that would be a better choice?
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I aked that same question in cyanogenmod forums and they answered me they still support nexus 10 devices as the nightlies are still going out, so yes hehe this tablet is still getting support from cyanogen and also from developpers you can find here on xda forums.
Running my beloved N10 with Omnirom 5.1.1... Everythings perfect!
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Running my beloved N10 with Omnirom 5.1.1... Everythings perfect!
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Great! Could you see for us if you can play 1440p youtube videos on your Nexus 10 with Omni 5.1.1 without crushing please?
amiguielesl said:
Great! Could you see for us if you can play 1440p youtube videos on your Nexus 10 with Omni 5.1.1 without crushing please?
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It's crushing
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It's crushing
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Oh ! well if it isnt a trouble for you I recomend you continue using 5.1.1 , its a very good ROM on performance. But if you wish to try on watching 1440p youtube videos I would recomend you to try OmniRom 6.0.1 version! So you still get Omni features and stability and also with Marshmallow features and battery managment.
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There is also a new AICP build with Marshmallow 6.0.1 running well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-10/development/rom-aicp-11-manta-t3280678
So that you have other options to enjoy
Got mine as a Christmas gift from my wife three years ago. I still use it pretty regularly. The only issue I have is the battery isn't what it used to be (to be expected after 3 years).
Interestingly enough, I still use an AOKP PUB build (Android 4.3, I think - don't have it in front of me) because it was one of the last builds with the ability to have a true tablet UI (back/home/recent buttons on bottom left, status bar/notifications, etc. on bottom right).
I'll probably keep it until it's completely dead. But I'm not sure I have a real need for a tablet. If I'm ever in the market for something else, I'll almost certainly buy a Surface or some other laptop/tablet hybrid.
When I bought my N10 back in early 2013 I thought I wouldn't use it much.. The only thing I regret is getting the 16GB version. I don't think my Note 2 - launched approximately the same time - has been keeping the momentum equally good and it has been upgraded to a N4. But the N10 is aging like wine and I'm impressed to see mine still going after will these years. Would I get a "new" one today? Probably not. But I don't feel a need to upgrade either.
Also as rodeojones writes above.. Do I REALLY need a tablet? Probably not. My N4 is big enough when I'm not at home and when I'm home I usually use my desktop computer. But AICP 11 is working very well...