Hi Looking for a bit more information after reading for a few days on rooting and unlocking and best rom for telus i717d.
Ok 1st off ROOTing, do i really need todo a nocount root on the telus i717d? as a JIG will reset count anyways? i know its easier todo now. on 4.0.4 now so can use the nocount method. Just wondering if the need for odin, or can use sd card to root.
As for unlocking, is there a way for free, I know i can download from marketplace apps for samsung unlocks ( mostly galaxy, some say works others say no--really don;t wanna waste 2 hours than finding out have to buy ) but 90% plus posts here all point to provider or a reseller of unlocking codes......Anything Bell/Telus seems to be around $20 on ebay.....
Also, what is the best ROM to use, CM seems like standard for any android phone, looking for performance and most tweaks.
I also read that the i717d from telus has issues when unlocked keeping APN settings for certain providers ( koodoo for example ) ( is there a known solution for this ? )
Thanks in advance.
You do need odin to root. As far as nocount....it is up to you. But Canadian phones usually require another step in getting the custom recovery to stick. Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775263
If you want to sim unlock your phone for free then look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124544
Best ROM is whatever works for you. Could be stock, CM, or whatever. 10 people will give you 10 different answers. Best to experience for yourself.
If you want to not have issues with your APN then write it down and you can enter it into the new ROM if not included.
Agoattamer said:
You do need odin to root. As far as nocount....it is up to you. But Canadian phones usually require another step in getting the custom recovery to stick. Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775263
If you want to sim unlock your phone for free then look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124544
Best ROM is whatever works for you. Could be stock, CM, or whatever. 10 people will give you 10 different answers. Best to experience for yourself.
If you want to not have issues with your APN then write it down and you can enter it into the new ROM if not included.
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Thanks for the info, didn't see custom recovery to stick issue in my previous research so will read up more on it.
The unlock linked looks easy enough.
I know what you mean about ROM's but seeing as so many out there I guess I will have to play with them each for a while.
Can you flash I717 ROMs on the Telus I717D? I'm having a hard time finding any ROMS to flash on my buddy;s phone. I use Nexus devices, myself so this is never an issue. So far I have rooted his phone, added CWM recovery and SIM unlocked it. I also flashed a baseband from the TMO S2. (Someone in another thread said it works really well for them, and it seems to get good 4G signal, though it also seems to have wifi issues now lol.. but I'll come back to that when I see him again)
Anyway, if you can't flash these ROMS on the Telus variant, can someone point me to any that you CAN flash on it? Thanks!
I must tell him to stick with Nexus phones lol
Hello there, how are you?
My problem is, I received an Y300 as a gift, haven't yet received it but I want to prepare the necessary things to root it and install custom roms on it. No, this isn't the first phone I install a custom rom to, as I have already played with an Optimus L5 of a friend. Could you please answer this questions?
a) How do I root the phone and install CWM or other recovery? I have found many tutorials but they are confusing, and require waiting for 2-3 days for the code to unlock the bootloader. In case you need to know, it probably is the normal Y300, the international one, so no Asian Model
b) How many ROMS are there for this phone? I like Cyanogenmod and stock roms the most, I can barely stand the stock rom in the phone, so I would like to install a new ROM on it ASAP.
c) By flashing the new ROM, do I lose IMEI or something like that (EFS Folder in Samsung phones)? If so, how can I back it up?
Thanks for your help
louis9916 said:
Hello there, how are you?
My problem is, I received an Y300 as a gift, haven't yet received it but I want to prepare the necessary things to root it and install custom roms on it. No, this isn't the first phone I install a custom rom to, as I have already played with an Optimus L5 of a friend. Could you please answer this questions?
a) How do I root the phone and install CWM or other recovery? I have found many tutorials but they are confusing, and require waiting for 2-3 days for the code to unlock the bootloader. In case you need to know, it probably is the normal Y300, the international one, so no Asian Model
b) How many ROMS are there for this phone? I like Cyanogenmod and stock roms the most, I can barely stand the stock rom in the phone, so I would like to install a new ROM on it ASAP.
c) By flashing the new ROM, do I lose IMEI or something like that (EFS Folder in Samsung phones)? If so, how can I back it up?
Thanks for your help
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Here is a GUIDE to unlock the bootloader and root your phone
Thanks, LS.xD
This was all I needed, I've found a CM11 Rom in the Modaco forums, hope it works well. Just got to wait until I get the phone
Okay, so I downloaded the latest nighly of the ROM, but it appears that CM11 is not very stable and has many problems with SystemUI (statusbar) and other things. Aren't there any ROMS for the Y300 on XDA? Also, will I lose my network connectivity if I do the wipes (data,cache, dalvik cache)?
Again, thanks for all your help, I appreciate it
EDIT: Found CM10.1 here in XDA but it redirected me to Modaco, however it is quite stable, downloading now. So which wipes do I have to do, in order to get everything smooth? Also, as I said will I lose my network connectivity or IMEI if I do these wipes, or I can do this without worrying
I have stock rom from nandroid backup that i've downloaded. android 4.4.2.
So the question goes like that, AT&T release the OTA 4.4.4 yet?
If so, why can't i see the OTA?
I have stock root does it a problem ? should i remove root? if so how i do that?
I need to make stock bootloader and all that stuff?
Last question, when AT&T will release the android lolipop 5 ?
ben33891471 said:
I have stock rom from nandroid backup that i've downloaded. android 4.4.2.
So the question goes like that, AT&T release the OTA 4.4.4 yet?
If so, why can't i see the OTA?
I have stock root does it a problem ? should i remove root? if so how i do that?
I need to make stock bootloader and all that stuff?
Last question, when AT&T will release the android lolipop 5 ?
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I hesitate to answer this because so much is already in posts and threads....
1. AT&T has released the 4.4.4 OTA already
2. I don't know why you can't see it. Are you using an AT&T SIM card? Are you logged onto the AT&T network?
3. Root doesn't matter, but a stock recovery is required to actually install the update (but not to download it)
4. Stock bootloader isn't required. I don't know if it needs to be locked or not (probably not - just guessing).
5. Please contact AT&T for the answer to your version 5 update question.
DanGeorges said:
I hesitate to answer this because so much is already in posts and threads....
1. AT&T has released the 4.4.4 OTA already
2. I don't know why you can't see it. Are you using an AT&T SIM card? Are you logged onto the AT&T network?
3. Root doesn't matter, but a stock recovery is required to actually install the update (but not to download it)
4. Stock bootloader isn't required. I don't know if it needs to be locked or not (probably not - just guessing).
5. Please contact AT&T for the answer to your version 5 update question.
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about 2, i dont think..
about 3, how i flash or whatever it called, the stock recovery?
ben33891471 said:
about 2, i dont think..
about 3, how i flash or whatever it called, the stock recovery?
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If you're not using an AT&T SIM card or on the AT&T network, you will not be able to receive an update from AT&T. I'm not sure how you thought that might happen.
Please search this XDA forum on how to install a recovery (stock or otherwise). There are LOTS of threads on this. And if you don't know what it is, you probably shouldn't be mucking around with your phone yet. Read as much as possible first - If you don't, you'll be asking how to unbrick your phone.
DanGeorges said:
If you're not using an AT&T SIM card or on the AT&T network, you will not be able to receive an update from AT&T. I'm not sure how you thought that might happen.
Please search this XDA forum on how to install a recovery (stock or otherwise). There are LOTS of threads on this. And if you don't know what it is, you probably shouldn't be mucking around with your phone yet. Read as much as possible first - If you don't, you'll be asking how to unbrick your phone.
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I'm from Israel so i dont think i connected to AT&T network.. My phone is from at&t but my carrer newtork is Orange(Israel)
So that means i can't update my phone ever?
kinda weird, my brother have m8 but T- Mobile and he is already have recived the OTA 4.44 a long time ago.
ben33891471 said:
I'm from Israel so i dont think i connected to AT&T network.. My phone is from at&t but my carrer newtork is Orange(Israel)
So that means i can't update my phone ever?
kinda weird, my brother have m8 but T- Mobile and he is already have recived the OTA 4.44 a long time ago.
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OK - here's the scoop:
1. If you've put an Orange SIM card into your unlocked HTC One M8 (AT&T branded), it is an Orange device now. AT&T is just a label on the phone (logo on the lower back of the device).
2. If Orange Israel releases an update, you will most likely get it. Both T-Mobile and AT&T released updates about a month ago, which is why your brother got the update on T-Mobile.
3. You can still update your M8 to version 4.4.4 - but you'll need to ensure you have the proper firmware installed or you'll have problems. Version 4.4.4 has a different data structure than 4.4.2.
Again - read up on the general and Q/A threads on this forum. You can get your device updated to whatever version you want, it's just a matter of reading.
DanGeorges said:
OK - here's the scoop:
1. If you've put an Orange SIM card into your unlocked HTC One M8 (AT&T branded), it is an Orange device now. AT&T is just a label on the phone (logo on the lower back of the device).
2. If Orange Israel releases an update, you will most likely get it. Both T-Mobile and AT&T released updates about a month ago, which is why your brother got the update on T-Mobile.
3. You can still update your M8 to version 4.4.4 - but you'll need to ensure you have the proper firmware installed or you'll have problems. Version 4.4.4 has a different data structure than 4.4.2.
Again - read up on the general and Q/A threads on this forum. You can get your device updated to whatever version you want, it's just a matter of reading.
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That's such a headache .. I'll just stay with the nandrid backup i guess.. i almost bricked my phone a month ago, but fixed it somehow..
This whole thing is complicated.. was so much easier on the galaxy 4 to flash roms and what not..
ben33891471 said:
That's such a headache .. I'll just stay with the nandrid backup i guess.. i almost bricked my phone a month ago, but fixed it somehow..
This whole thing is complicated.. was so much easier on the galaxy 4 to flash roms and what not..
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Question - is the ROM on your phone from AT&T or from Orange, or was it flashed from some other source? The ROM is specific to a device, not a carrier, so you SHOULD be able to flash the ROM of your choice, as long as it works with the device (but keep in mind the fact that you will need a ROM for the GSM version of the M8, as opposed to, say, a Verizon or Sprint variant).
If it's from AT&T, you may be able to apply the updates from saved OTA file (not sure how to apply, but it can be done).
DanGeorges said:
Question - is the ROM on your phone from AT&T or from Orange, or was it flashed from some other source? The ROM is specific to a device, not a carrier, so you SHOULD be able to flash the ROM of your choice, as long as it works with the device (but keep in mind the fact that you will need a ROM for the GSM version of the M8, as opposed to, say, a Verizon or Sprint variant).
If it's from AT&T, you may be able to apply the updates from saved OTA file (not sure how to apply, but it can be done).
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This is a nandroid backup and yes this one is AT&T rom.
I want to flash the ViperOne 3.2.1. i've been with 1.7.1 version but didn't really like it. a lot of bugs..
I want something with lollipop 5. and a STRONG battery , of course a smoothly rom with no bugs.
ben33891471 said:
This is a nandroid backup and yes this one is AT&T rom.
I want to flash the ViperOne 3.2.1. i've been with 1.7.1 version but didn't really like it. a lot of bugs..
I want something with lollipop 5. and a STRONG battery , of course a smoothly rom with no bugs.
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I flashed Viper 3.2.1, and it worked nicely. Make sure to update your firmware before installing.
I also tried an L version 5 ROM, but didn't like the fact that it didn't work with Xposed modules, which I like and use.
DanGeorges said:
OK - here's the scoop:
1. If you've put an Orange SIM card into your unlocked HTC One M8 (AT&T branded), it is an Orange device now. AT&T is just a label on the phone (logo on the lower back of the device).
2. If Orange Israel releases an update, you will most likely get it. Both T-Mobile and AT&T released updates about a month ago, which is why your brother got the update on T-Mobile.
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These points are not correct. Yes, the phone is being run on the OP's local network Orange (not AT&T). But the phone will only receive and be able to install an Orange OTA if its on Orange software and Orange CID/MID. If its running AT&T software, it will not receive OTA is most foreign countries. AT&T is the oddball here, as most other variants will still update on other networks. AT&T devices must be connected to the AT&T network to get official OTA.
The way to update the device by official means (when not on AT&T's network) would be the AT&T RUU.
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ben33891471 said:
That's such a headache ...
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If you don't want such headaches, don't buy carrier branded US devices for use in other countries. I strongly believe this.
ben33891471 said:
I'll just stay with the nandrid backup i guess.. i almost bricked my phone a month ago, but fixed it somehow..
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You didn't "almost brick" the device. A brick means that you phone is totally inoperable to the point the screen doesn't even power on; and the only way to recover is by opening the phone and JTAG or replacing the mainboard.
You probably just put the phone in a condition where it would not boot; which is a fairly common issue that crops up for just about anyone modding phones, at one time or another. And how to recover from such conditions is pretty basic info; and something anyone who is modding phones should now how to do.
I'm sorry if any of this seems harsh. But I believe the above to be more FACT than opinion, and for your own good. I agree with the former notions that you (and anyone who want to mod the hone) should always research thoroughly and understand before messing with the phone.
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ben33891471 said:
Last question, when AT&T will release the android lolipop 5 ?
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God knows. There is never any firm release date for AT&T (one of the many reasons to avoid US carrier branded devices if you are in another country). They just released 4.4.4 a couple weeks ago. It was delayed for months due to issues implementing Voice Over LTE. Hopefully, the LP update won't suffer the same length of delay.
redpoint73 said:
These points are not correct. Yes, the phone is being run on the OP's local network Orange (not AT&T). But the phone will only receive and be able to install an Orange OTA if its on Orange software and Orange CID/MID. If its running AT&T software, it will not receive OTA is most foreign countries. AT&T is the oddball here, as most other variants will still update on other networks. AT&T devices must be connected to the AT&T network to get official OTA.
The way to update the device by official means (when not on AT&T's network) would be the AT&T RUU.
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If you don't want such headaches, don't buy carrier branded US devices for use in other countries. I strongly believe this.
You didn't "almost brick" the device. A brick means that you phone is totally inoperable to the point the screen doesn't even power on; and the only way to recover is by opening the phone and JTAG or replacing the mainboard.
You probably just put the phone in a condition where it would not boot; which is a fairly common issue that crops up for just about anyone modding phones, at one time or another. And how to recover from such conditions is pretty basic info; and something anyone who is modding phones should now how to do.
I'm sorry if any of this seems harsh. But I believe the above to be more FACT than opinion, and for your own good. I agree with the former notions that you (and anyone who want to mod the hone) should always research thoroughly and understand before messing with the phone.
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Correct. I updated my responses - I thought that the OP had an Orange M8 ROM installed.
ben33891471 said:
I want something with lollipop 5. and a STRONG battery , of course a smoothly rom with no bugs.
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Since there is no LP stock ROM or "official" firmware for AT&T, you won't be able to run Sense LP at this time unless you have s-off (and can then update the firmware by "unofficial" means).
You can however flash a Lollipop GPE or AOSP ROM, but you will still likely need to update to at least Android 4.4.4 to get a firmware and/or hboot that supports the specific ROM.
Battery and performance are always going to vary from one user to the next. Variables such as how one uses the phones; and especially your local reception will greatly impact battery life. There is never going to be one ROM that has "strong" battery for every user in every situation. Your best bet is to try the ROMs out, and see what works best for your situation.
DanGeorges said:
I flashed Viper 3.2.1, and it worked nicely. Make sure to update your firmware before installing.
I also tried an L version 5 ROM, but didn't like the fact that it didn't work with Xposed modules, which I like and use.
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Alright , there is a nandroid backup 4.4.4? i think this is the only way i can update my phone, if this possible.
redpoint73 said:
These points are not correct. Yes, the phone is being run on the OP's local network Orange (not AT&T). But the phone will only receive and be able to install an Orange OTA if its on Orange software and Orange CID/MID. If its running AT&T software, it will not receive OTA is most foreign countries. AT&T is the oddball here, as most other variants will still update on other networks. AT&T devices must be connected to the AT&T network to get official OTA.
The way to update the device by official means (when not on AT&T's network) would be the AT&T RUU.
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If you don't want such headaches, don't buy carrier branded US devices for use in other countries. I strongly believe this.
You didn't "almost brick" the device. A brick means that you phone is totally inoperable to the point the screen doesn't even power on; and the only way to recover is by opening the phone and JTAG or replacing the mainboard.
You probably just put the phone in a condition where it would not boot; which is a fairly common issue that crops up for just about anyone modding phones, at one time or another. And how to recover from such conditions is pretty basic info; and something anyone who is modding phones should now how to do.
I'm sorry if any of this seems harsh. But I believe the above to be more FACT than opinion, and for your own good. I agree with the former notions that you (and anyone who want to mod the hone) should always research thoroughly and understand before messing with the phone.
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God knows. There is never any firm release date for AT&T (one of the many reasons to avoid US carrier branded devices if you are in another country). They just released 4.4.4 a couple weeks ago. It was delayed for months due to issues implementing Voice Over LTE. Hopefully, the LP update won't suffer the same length of delay.
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I don't know what RUU means.. There is a simple way to update to 4.4.4 ?
redpoint73 said:
Since there is no LP stock ROM or "official" firmware for AT&T, you won't be able to run Sense LP at this time unless you have s-off (and can then update the firmware by "unofficial" means).
You can however flash a Lollipop GPE or AOSP ROM, but you will still likely need to update to at least Android 4.4.4 to get a firmware and/or hboot that supports the specific ROM.
Battery and performance are always going to vary from one user to the next. Variables such as how one uses the phones; and especially your local reception will greatly impact battery life. There is never going to be one ROM that has "strong" battery for every user in every situation. Your best bet is to try the ROMs out, and see what works best for your situation.
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ben33891471 said:
I don't know what RUU means.. There is a simple way to update to 4.4.4 ?
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RUU = ROM update utility. Its an official .exe (Windows PC required) that completely re-images the phone, including stock ROM, stock recovery and all firmware.
If this is the path you choose, its pretty simple:
Download the RUU to your PC.
Backup any personal data, as the phone will be wiped by RUU.
Connect the phone to PC in fastboot mode.
Relock the bootloader with command fastboot oem lock (not required with s-off).
Simply run the RUU .exe, and it will do the rest (you click a few confirmations dialogs, but that is it).
RUU and more detailed instructions at the following link, under "Manual system update instructions": http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m8-att/news/
As RUU installs stock recovery, you will need to unlock the bootloader again, and flash custom recovery again if you want to root or flash custom ROMs.
redpoint73 said:
RUU = ROM update utility. Its an official .exe (Windows PC required) that completely re-images the phone, including stock ROM, stock recovery and all firmware.
If this is the path you choose, its pretty simple:
Download the RUU to your PC.
Backup any personal data, as the phone will be wiped by RUU.
Connect the phone to PC in fastboot mode.
Relock the bootloader with command fastboot oem lock (not required with s-off).
Simply run the RUU .exe, and it will do the rest (you click a few confirmations dialogs, but that is it).
RUU and more detailed instructions at the following link, under "Manual system update instructions": http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m8-att/news/
As RUU installs stock recovery, you will need to unlock the bootloader again, and flash custom recovery again if you want to root or flash custom ROMs.
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Which ROM do you think the best. I'm thinking about ViperOne 3.2.1 , Android Revolution hd 34.0 or CM 12 .
I really like the design of the CM12 but i heard that the boomsound ain't works, is that true? that's means the quality of the speakers will be very bad?
ben33891471 said:
Which ROM do you think the best. I'm thinking about ViperOne 3.2.1 , Android Revolution hd 34.0 or CM 12 .
I really like the design of the CM12 but i heard that the boomsound ain't works, is that true? that's means the quality of the speakers will be very bad?
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I don't believe in recommending "best" ROMs. What's best for me, may no be the best for you. Especially since our network requirements are very different. And the choice of ROM is also largely a matter of personal preference and taste. In fact, until recently the XDA rules did not allow posting of "best ROM" threads as the discussions are largely irrelevant, and just resulted in fanboy pissing contests.
You really can't go wrong with any of the mentioned ROMs.
Although be aware that current ARHD is based on Android 5.0. So you need to update to Lollipop firmware or else suffer major bugs (broken WiFi is the most common). For the AT&T version of this phone, you can only update to LP firmware if you have s-off (until a LP is released by AT&T, for you by RUU).
Yes, any features that require Sense framework will not be present on CM12, including Boomsound and dual camera. Whether the sound is "bad" or not, I can't say. I'm not a CM12 user. But remember that Boomsound is just a software enhancement. The high quality of the speakers (for a smartphone) is largely a factor in the sound quality. If you like CM12 design, why not flash it (once on the proper hboot) and see for yourself what you think?
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I don't believe in recommending "best" ROMs. What's best for me, may no be the best for you. Especially since our network requirements are very different. And the choice of ROM is also largely a matter of personal preference and taste. In fact, until recently the XDA rules did not allow posting of "best ROM" threads as the discussions are largely irrelevant, and just resulted in fanboy pissing contests.
You really can't go wrong with any of the mentioned ROMs.
Although be aware that current ARHD is based on Android 5.0. So you need to update to Lollipop firmware or else suffer major bugs (broken WiFi is the most common). For the AT&T version of this phone, you can only update to LP firmware if you have s-off (until a LP is released by AT&T, for you by RUU).
Yes, any features that require Sense framework will not be present on CM12, including Boomsound and dual camera. Whether the sound is "bad" or not, I can't say. I'm not a CM12 user. But remember that Boomsound is just a software enhancement. The high quality of the speakers (for a smartphone) is largely a factor in the sound quality. If you like CM12 design, why not flash it (once on the proper hboot) and see for yourself what you think?
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The RUU file isn't open. I boot into bootloader and type the command but then this says something failed and reboot my device. Then i boot into fastboot again and i saw its says relocked so i guess that's ok.
Fine, tried to plug into my PC while the phone is awake and open, the file can't seems to open, not even when i plug it while im in the bootloader.
did i do something wrong?
ben33891471 said:
The RUU file isn't open. I boot into bootloader and type the command but then this says something failed and reboot my device. Then i boot into fastboot again and i saw its says relocked so i guess that's ok.
Fine, tried to plug into my PC while the phone is awake and open, the file can't seems to open, not even when i plug it while im in the bootloader.
did i do something wrong?
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Make sure you have HTC drivers installed on your PC. Phone should be connected in in fastboot mode.
If the RUU application doesn't even open, it doesn't sound like an issue with the phone. Even if there was an issue with the phone (wrong RUU , unlocked bootloader, etc.) the RUU would still open and start to run, but it would just give you an error message telling you what was wrong. Maybe just a bad download, try to download again.
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Make sure you have HTC drivers installed on your PC. Phone should be connected in in fastboot mode.
If the RUU application doesn't even open, it doesn't sound like an issue with the phone. Even if there was an issue with the phone (wrong RUU , unlocked bootloader, etc.) the RUU would still open and start to run, but it would just give you an error message telling you what was wrong. Maybe just a bad download, try to download again.
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Bro, i managed to upgrade to 4.4.4 . I flashed ViperOne 3.2.1 at first, didn't like it, so i tried android revolution hd 34.0 and this ROM is amazing, love the design love it!
Have only 2 problems so far, first, the TV app , just got every 1-2 min a message: TV stopped .. so i kinda deleted this, but fine i can live without it.
But the problem that actually do me a troubles, is the screenshot, when i try to take a shot of my screen it's says. couldn't take a screenshot, not remaining space or program does not support..
Sorry about my English if you can't understand what i say..
Hi,
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S4 i545 (Verizon) that has the locked bootloader, and therefore has limited ROMs available. I am considering picking up a used LG G3 and would like to know if there are any "gotchas" to be aware of? Has Verizon & AT&T locked the bootloaders to the G3 as well, or is root and custom recovery a go for all versions?
Appreciate your feedback!
Short answer: You can root and "Bump" the boot-loader;
Longer answer (obviously there is a MUCH longer and complete answer, but this should get you started): Depending on who you talk to, the Boot-loader is quasi/unlocked. You may need to restore an older firmware in order to root and Bump though. I am still not 100% clear on the specifics, but I believe there was a work-around for the boot-loader to get a custom recovery installed - this is the Bump. From there, all kernel's and Rom's need to be "Bumped" in order to flash. Every kernel/ROM I've seen on XDA is already Bumped, so you shouldn't have any issues flashing anything.
Hope that makes sense. For more info on which firmware will allow you to do what, http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/verizon-lg-g3-one-toolkit-vs985-root-t3124846
In order to be able to install and get into TWRP or any custom recovery, you have to use the 12B (KitKat) bootloader or below (10C KitKat, 11C KitKat). It's easiest to root on 10B with the Stump app. You can downgrade from every official stock version, although from 35B and higher, the only way to downgrade is to flash the 10B TOT file from Windows using the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ (even if you're downgrading from 46A or 47A).
Rooting gets more complicated after 10B, and putting TWRP on gets more complicated after 12B.
Thanks guys! Since I'd be buying used it would be a crap-shoot which boot-loader I get...but it still seems more promising than my current S4.
I'm in no hurry but I'll start looking for a deal.
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Thanks guys! Since I'd be buying used it would be a crap-shoot which boot-loader I get...but it still seems more promising than my current S4.
I'm in no hurry but I'll start looking for a deal.
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You're welcome, good luck!
Just got a refub.ed G3 VS985 off ebay for $109 last week (saw a $99 deal a few days ago). It came with 35B version ... easy to downgraded back to 10B, then rooted (stump apk) , then added TWRP 3.0.0.0 (TWRP apk), then flashed 35B bootstack + stock47A.
Had quite a bit of issues (going back to 10B) due to a corrupted TOT file causing "Failed Previous Load" for LGFlashTool.
@ hyperxguy - So despite your troubles everything worked out OK? Have you flashed any ROMs yet? I'm a bit eager to jump in sooner than later at thought of being able to use different ROMs.
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@ hyperxguy - So despite your troubles everything worked out OK? Have you flashed any ROMs yet? I'm a bit eager to jump in sooner than later at thought of being able to use different ROMs.
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It took me awhile to realize the corrupted TOT file was causing the downgrade problem ... otherwise, the process was painless. I'm having no issue with the stock-rooted47A. Will start playing with other ROMs soon.
This G3 is about the same as my old G2, regarding root & ROMs. So I'm feeling pretty comfortable.
Note: I've been using the G4 for the last year ... but it has no root solution ... so I'm getting the G3 just to have some fun (kinda miss my old G2).
Hey fellows, I too am thinking of getting a G3 to replace my S3 that died a while back. I'm using an old moto x2 now. After posting in another thread elsewhere and describing what I'm looking for in a New(used) phone, someone recommended the G3 and after some reading I see that it fits the bill perfectly. (Ext SD, Replaceable battery, 5" or larger display) I had been thinking about a new moto or a note but root and ext sd are a must. I also need a phone with decent reception. My S3 was terrible compared to my old Droid X and X2, and since signal at home is hit or miss (95db/m on my dx2 now) I want a phone that pulls in signal well.
What do those of you who own this phone think about signal / reception compared to other devices?
I think I can get any Verizon version downgraded to install root and TWRP correct?
Without me reading through all the custom rom posts, do all features of the phone work as good or better on a custom rom as on a stock rom? What I'm mean here is for example, on my DX, DX2, and S3, some features do not work on custom roms due to the closed source of the original software / drivers I believe. On the DX and X2 for example the HDMI out port won't work on AOSP roms because the driver isn't available. Performance suffers on AOSP roms on the X2 past GB because of the closed nature of the Nvidia Tegra 2 drivers I think. I think I'm explaining this correctly.
I'm pretty sure that's everything I can find out how to do everything once I acquire the device. The link in the first reply above is most helpful.
Would anyone recommend any other device for the price range between 100-200 US dollars? Again, I've been considering a note, nexus 6 (because I know I'll have beaucoup kernels and roms to choose from)
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Hey fellows, I too am thinking of getting a G3 to replace my S3 that died a while back.
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Hi! I too, came from the S3, albeit the Sprint version. I loved that phone, by the way. I think overall I was most satisfied on the S3 but the G3 definitely has some great specifications in comparison.
What do those of you who own this phone think about signal / reception compared to other devices?
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I can't comment regarding this. I've moved too many times in the past 6 years and had four different Android phones in that time.
I think I can get any Verizon version downgraded to install root and TWRP correct?
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Yes. The overall wisest way is to flash the 10B (KitKat) TOT using the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B (Lollipop 5.1.1) KDZ from a Windows PC, then use the Stump app to root it using the brute force method.
Google for:
Code:
XDA Stump
and then use TWRP Manager from the Play Store to install TWRP. Rooting gets more complicated after 10B and installing TWRP gets more complicated after 12B.
To flash a ROM - the order you flash things in matters if you end up dealing with JasmineROM 9.x or SkyDragon 6.x. After flashing either of those two ROMs, flash either the 24B or 35B Bootstack that you can find in @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0 ROM thread in the Development section. Depending on which Bootstack you flashed, if you flashed it before flashing either of those two ROMs, you'll brick your phone. Recoverable but no sense doing it if you can avoid it.
I recommend just getting used to flashing the appropriate Bootstack after flashing any ROM, that way you don't have to remember that with those two ROMs you can brick if you flash the Bootstack first. There's more details and exceptions but there's no use overloading you. If you always flash the Bootstack after, there's nothing else to worry about.
Without me reading through all the custom rom posts, do all features of the phone work as good or better on a custom rom as on a stock rom? What I'm mean here is for example, on my DX, DX2, and S3, some features do not work on custom roms due to the closed source of the original software / drivers I believe. On the DX and X2 for example the HDMI out port won't work on AOSP roms because the driver isn't available. Performance suffers on AOSP roms on the X2 past GB because of the closed nature of the Nvidia Tegra 2 drivers I think. I think I'm explaining this correctly.
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No. For what it's worth in my opinion, I don't bother fooling with non-stock Verizon LG ROMs any more. CyanogenMod/AOSP and ports of international stock ROMs often end up not working quite 100%, and you won't get all the features you will on stock. You can't use laser focus on CyanogenMod no matter what camera app you use, there are workarounds that at least used to work to get QuickRemote working on non-stock ROMs, but I haven't fooled with them in over a year so I have no idea if the same way works on newer ROMs.
I can get the most important to me features of non-stock ROMs by using Xposed and modules like G3TweaksBox.
All too often, after a user has flashed a handful of non-stock ROMs, sometimes they end up not being able to get Mobile Data working, even if they flash a stock rooted ROM. Only flashing the TOT or a KDZ will fix such a situation. TOT is recommended, it flashes more partitions than KDZs and can fix issues KDZs can't.
Would anyone recommend any other device for the price range between 100-200 US dollars? Again, I've been considering a note, nexus 6 (because I know I'll have beaucoup kernels and roms to choose from)
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I can't really speak to this either. Every time I'm tempted to go Nexus the price and/or the no MicroSD card or lack of as good a camera etc sways me away. I'm going to keep my eye on the HTC 10 in half a year when I may be in the market again, but it won't be that cheap that soon.
Congratulations, you just absorbed 1 1/2 years of experience with LG devices that I got by reading nearly every post in nearly every thread in the G3 sections since that time, and flashing both my VS985s and my VK810 many dozens of times.
P.S. If you go with the VS985, although I've been on @xdabbeb 's as pure stock while rooted 47A Marshmallow (although heavily debloated) for several months now, his custom ROM based on 35B is my overall favorite. You probably won't go wrong with either one of those, in my opinion.
Edit: By the way, it's a common enough occurence on the G3 that when flashing TOTs or KDZs, and maybe other situations, some people have gotten their IMEI wiped and have to go through some headache to put it back in, and you need to know what it was to begin with.
So if you flash back to 10B, root and install TWRP, the first thing you should back up in TWRP is "EFS" which includes your IMEI. Then save that somewhere like on Google Drive. It'll save you a lot of headache if you lose your IMEI. That said, I haven't lost mine once in several dozen flashes on my wife's and my G3s.
If you're still thinking of getting a G3, I was looking at Ebay last night and noticed they are selling refurbished G3's for $100.00 - I think with free shipping.
Just FYI