Hi,
I've read various guides on the net on the best way to charge an S3 (or any modern smartphone).
Some say charge when the battery is at 40% and take it off when it reaches 80%.
Some say to fully discharge it, then charge to 100%.
Can anyone give me advice on the best way to charge my phone (so the battery lasts longer).
Thanks.
skatlyup said:
Hi,
I've read various guides on the net on the best way to charge an S3 (or any modern smartphone).
Some say charge when the battery is at 40% and take it off when it reaches 80%.
Some say to fully discharge it, then charge to 100%.
Can anyone give me advice on the best way to charge my phone (so the battery lasts longer).
Thanks.
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Charge your phone when the phone says connect to charger and remove it when it says Fully charged.. this is the best way to charge your phone...
The battery is only supposed to last 50 charge cycles, before capacity is noticeably reduced. As above, don't leave it fully charged and don't let it go below 15%.
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It wont matter if you leave your phone on the charger when it says fully charged since they have a cut off point so when it reaches 100% it will not continue to put power into the battery. That's why I charge mine overnight because when I wake up the charger is cold so I know it hasn't been charging all night
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Point to note on the above reply .
We on XDA first found that users left phone on charge overnight where reporting a dead unit . After a number of these posts it was recognized as what became SDS or sudden death syndrome .
Leaving on charge overnight is not the actual cause of SDS but something i don't risk any more fixes or not .
SDS seems to manifest in 2 distinct ways.
1) Complete eMMC failure. This usually happens over night whilst on charge* - The LED may be lit but the phone will not wake. Subsequent removal of the battery will turn off the LED. You will never get the LED back on. The phone will never turn on again. It needs to go to a service centre and have the motherboard replaced
* Being on Charge is NOT the cause. This is a writing to memory issue and it is more likely to happen when teh device is awake rather than in deep sleep. When the S3 is on charge, it holds a wake lock (so remains awake) throughout the entire charging period, meaning SDS is more likely to occur when on charge This does not mean you should avoid charging your phone. If it's going to happen, it's going to happen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091045
boomboomer said:
The battery is only supposed to last 50 charge cycles, before capacity is noticeably reduced. As above, don't leave it fully charged and don't let it go below 15%.
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ya its a good thing to note, never to leave it charging even if the phone says charged, remove it as soon as phone says charged!!
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I'm going to start charging mine while I'm at work. I normally charge it overnight but it seems from what I've read here that it's counterproductive.
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Re: Battery Drain While Charging
Has anyone else experienced this?
This is the first time I've had this happen to me....
Sometimes while charging my phone....I'll leave it idle for maybe an hour, and when I go to check my messages, I notice I've lost 10% of my charge while the phones "charging."
Eugers22 said:
Has anyone else experienced this?
This is the first time I've had this happen to me....
Sometimes while charging my phone....I'll leave it idle for maybe an hour, and when I go to check my messages, I notice I've lost 10% of my charge while the phones "charging."
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Are you charging using the stock charger? USB cable?
That sure sounds like a bad charger... or you have some kind of hardware short? My phone only loses about 10% in 7-8 hours. I can't imagine it on a phone that is plugged in and charging.
I read somewhere that once the phone reaches 100% it discharges slightly in order to protect the battery. My phone drops down to 95% after it reaches 100% then charges back up to 100% again.
Robyna2010 said:
Are you charging using the stock charger? USB cable?
That sure sounds like a bad charger... or you have some kind of hardware short? My phone only loses about 10% in 7-8 hours. I can't imagine it on a phone that is plugged in and charging.
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I think it may be a bad charger.....Because if I leave my phone idle on the home charger (It's the oem one) it will eventually lose battery power.
But on a sidenote, I have my phone plugged into my usb right now and it is charging appropriately. But whenever I use the phone to text, or whatnot, it either stays charged at the current percentage, or it slowly loses power (albeit 1-2% every 10 minutes)
I've never had any of these problems before
ive experienced this a couple times. i charge it over night and when i wake up in the morning its at like 96%. when that happens i just unplug it, and plug it back in and eventually charges to full and it stays that way. i dont know why that happens, and it happens sporadically so i can't pinpoint the exact cause
rac1974 said:
I read somewhere that once the phone reaches 100% it discharges slightly in order to protect the battery. My phone drops down to 95% after it reaches 100% then charges back up to 100% again.
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This is the norm for me.
I am experiencing a worse version of this problem... I no matter whether I plug my phone into the wall charger that came in the box, or via usb, it actually loses charge while it is "charging". I have had it completely drain the battery while on charge. I've killed all applications, and the problem still exists. The only way around this is to turn the phone off completely while it is charging- which is something I feel I should not have to do. Not found a solution online yet...
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Getting my replacement today and my current phone has suffered from bad battery, so what is the best way to charge the new one please?
Thanks
I charge mine overnight most nights, and it gets better over time. It took a couple of weeks before I started to get really good life out of it.
Based on what I've read, you should charge for at least 3hrs and then drain it completely.
But I'm pretty sure you can still use it right out of the box
I don't think any extra/time specific charging is needed for Lithium batteries for the first charge. Just unplug it when charging completes. But if you calibrate the battery make sure you fully drain it before recharging it.
Regards.
It doesn't matter, there is no need to bother about how to charge modern li-io batteries.
I don't think modern batteries need any kind of special first charge routine....................but I still do it anyway
WastedJoker said:
I don't think modern batteries need any kind of special first charge routine....................but I still do it anyway
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Just read about this earlier on my local samsung officially site and yes ever since it is lithium battery its ok to charge anytime afor how long even it already 100% and still on the charging mode ots automatically cut off the power supply inside. But i do still charge like 4-6hours for the 1st time
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Just charge it to full, and then start using it, charging it overnight does nothing, the BMS will stop it from charging when the voltage coming from the battery is considered 100%.
Lithium batteries do not suffer memory effect like Nickel batteries.
The old charging practices cause more damage.
Lithium batteries should not be overcharged (Same as NiMh)
Lithium batteries prefer to be fully charged. If they stay on empty too long, they get damaged. Using the charge up before charging the battery can damage it, the optimal is to charge it before it gets low. Regardless how well you keep them, they have a predetermined life span, so they will stop working after a few years.
Thanks everyone I am going to charge it for about 6 hours, then calibrate then fully discharge and fully charge, Until o2 unlock it :'(
jameslfc5 said:
Thanks everyone I am going to charge it for about 6 hours, then calibrate then fully discharge and fully charge, Until o2 unlock it :'(
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Completely pointless....once it reaches 100% it stops charging.
Someone pointed out the same thing you all said i.e.modern li-ion batteries don't have a memory, they don't need to be formatted, however extreme conditions aren't healthy for them e.g. leave it completely depleted or completely charged for prolonged periods of time (days?).
i just charge mine to full the 1st time i get it while it is off and i am fitting screen protector etc
i then use it till its about 10% and charge to full
i then use it as normal and top up charge whenever
it may not be needed but batterys have always been good for me and its a little routine i seem to be stuck in lol
hope your new phone is decent and you enjoy
When I charge my phone it only charges to 99%. I'll leave it in for a while, come back and it's only at 99%. Either charging in the wall, or on the computer. It used to make it to 100% then all of a sudden it just stays at 99% regardless how long it charges. So the charging light always stays on and never lets me know when it's fully charged.
Any idea why?
Thanks.
Mine does that too once in a while, randomly.
But the Sensation would do that to randomly.
Dunno why.
Battery is strange...
I get that too. But eventually it will get to 100%. There has been times where it was charged to 100% then suddenly drop to 99% even though it still plugged in.
Did you get your phone recently? I'm thinking its because the battery needs to be conditioned.
Mines always does that, as soon as I unplug it it jumps to 98%. Im hoping ARHD fixes this
I've installed Battery Widget (from Market) and it reports 100%. I plug in every night and in the morning it reads 100%.
zellroot said:
Mines always does that, as soon as I unplug it it jumps to 98%. Im hoping ARHD fixes this
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ARHD, what is that?
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ARHD, what is that?
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New Amaze Android Revolution HD ROM by mike1986?
This happens with many devices. I have not seen this yet on my Amaze but I am sure at some point it will happen. Try turning the phone off and charging it to 100% then power it on also try running the battery all the way down and letting it charge to full UNINTERRUPTED over night. If those dont help you can always try another rom with better battery management or go into a t-mobile store and get a battery replacement if your battery is still under warranty. Hope this helps
HTC does this on a lot of phones. It is a safety default to keep the battery healthy and safe. I had this issue with the Evo. The only way to fully charge a battery is to have other a wall charger or a SBC kernel.
its the best sense rom known to man in my opinion.
daswahnsinn said:
HTC does this on a lot of phones. It is a safety default to keep the battery healthy and safe. I had this issue with the Evo. The only way to fully charge and battery is to have other a wall charger or a SBC kernel.
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My stock battery is 3.8v, and it only goes to 100% if I charge it in the phone. If I use my wall charger, it shows up at 99% when I put it back in my phone. I have two aftermarket batteries that show about 98% when charged from the wall. I am thinking that the phone charging circuit is set for 3.8v, and might possibly overheat the aftermarket batteries (3.7v). I saw one review that said these batteries melted the top of his SIM card. I'm not planning on trying that; I use the stock, charging every night, and swap the spares in if I run out of charge during the day.
I just remember hearing the same stories when I had my evo. You could charge for hours and unplug it and it would almost immediately drop to 99 or 98. So my previous statement may or may not help.
I charged mine over nite and woke up to it being 99%, left it for another hour or two and it hit 100%. I would say to leave it a little longer to get that last 1%.
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For anyone who is running quicksense, if you want better battery life, charge your phone completely and go into recovery > Advanced> wipe battery stats. And done!
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RZJZA80 said:
I charged mine over nite and woke up to it being 99%, left it for another hour or two and it hit 100%. I would say to leave it a little longer to get that last 1%.
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I find that if my phone its powered off while charging, it shows 100. If powered on, it shoes 99.
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this is normal for lithium ion batteries...it also depends how the manufacturer perceives the battery...some manufeacturers say that your phone is 100 percent but it might only be around 95-98...overcharging lithium ions are bad...also some manufacturers say you have 10 percent left while you might actually have 15 or maybe to percent left...this is a fail safe method to shut off the phone and keep the battery from draining completely WHICH IS REALLY REALLY BAD FOR LITHIUM IONS...OVER CHARGING THE BATTERY IS BAD TOO...perhaps htc's thresh holds are a little different and actual to the real battery life.
also not a good idea to use your phone or any lithium ion device while its charging
powering off your phone to charge it overnight is the best idea to give you lithium ion a long life but this is not practical. this is why it says 100 percent when you turn off the phone and 99 when you're phone is off....it confuses the phone: " A portable device must be turned off during charge. This allows the battery to reach the set threshold voltage unhindered, and enables terminating charge on low current. A parasitic load (which means using phone or turning screen on while its charging) confuses the charger by depressing the battery voltage and preventing the current in the saturation stage to drop low. A battery may be fully charged, but the prevailing conditions prompt a continued charge. This causes undue battery stress and compromises safety."
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a..._ion_batteries
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19651965&postcount=7
Any idea why the Xperia S only charges to 95% if you charge it whilst off but is happy to charge 100% when left on to charge.
It charges up to 100% then decharge down to 90% and so up again to 100% and it continues like this, to keep the battery as good as possible over a long time.
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I have the same problem. I turned off the phone at 23:00, put to charge, woke up at 07:00, removed from charge and turned on, it was %95. Actually it changes, sometimes %97 sometimes %98. But if i charge it when phone is on it charges to %100 and keep it like that..
On or not the battery will be jumping from ~95% to 100% when left on charge. If you use a battery monitoring app you can see that, even whilst on and charging at 100%, the voltage changes from about 4.2 to 4.1 volts and continually up and down again. This is to increase the battery life because lithium batterys do not like to be kept at 4.2 volts for exessive periods of time.
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Battery monitor clearly shows the phone charging to 95% or 100% dependent of its off or on state, there is none of this charging discharging you are on about.
MrBelter said:
Battery monitor clearly shows the phone charging to 95% or 100% dependent of its off or on state, there is none of this charging discharging you are on about.
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When the phone is on, some battery power is used to maintain the screen backlight and the SoC. Therefore the overall battery consumption is higher, thus the system will charge the battery more, but it will actually stay at the same voltage.
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The phone should charge to 100% when switched off and it clearly doesn't, you can give me all the charging mumbo jumbo you like but the handset should be at 100% when turned on but it never even achieves anything past 95%. Once the handset reaches 100% it should revert to a trickle charge not fanny about dipping 5% as is being suggested.
MrBelter said:
The phone should charge to 100% when switched off and it clearly doesn't, you can give me all the charging mumbo jumbo you like but the handset should be at 100% when turned on but it never even achieves anything past 95%. Once the handset reaches 100% it should revert to a trickle charge not fanny about dipping 5% as is being suggested.
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It works this way, whether you like it or not. If you don't, go modify it and enjoy killing your battery.
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MrBelter said:
The phone should charge to 100% when switched off and it clearly doesn't, you can give me all the charging mumbo jumbo you like but the handset should be at 100% when turned on but it never even achieves anything past 95%. Once the handset reaches 100% it should revert to a trickle charge not fanny about dipping 5% as is being suggested.
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Yes, but things use to work in an optimized way, not in the way you would like to... Sony prefers to optimize the phone and the battery life than to make people happy by keeping 100% while decreasing drastically battery life...
K900 said:
It works this way, whether you like it or not. If you don't, go modify it and enjoy killing your battery.
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But the point is it doesn't!
Jorgitosms said:
Yes, but things use to work in an optimized way, not in the way you would like to... Sony prefers to optimize the phone and the battery life than to make people happy by keeping 100% while decreasing drastically battery life...
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Right I'll try one more time.
Turned off the phone charges to 95%, no higher and no lower and battery monitor widget can confirm this.
Turned on the phone charges to 100% and remains at 100% without variation until unplugged from the charger and battery monitor can confirm this.
You can see variations in both voltage and current as the charge cycle maintains either the off state 95% charge or the on state 100% charge but in either case the actual level of charge is without fluctuation.
Just picked my phone up from the changer. 99% battery.
I put the phone to charge overnight without turning it off and everyday I wake up at 100%
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Not showing 100% even while left ON and charging
Tops out at 95% or 98%, but keeps varying from time to time ..... I have had the phone (XPS) for three days and not seen a 100% charge till now . Also one thing I have noticed is that the Notification light turns from Orange to Green. That's when I normally take the phone off charge.
Mine charges to 100% and stays at 100%.
mine SXS takes 20 minutes from 99 to 100%.
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Any idea why the Xperia S only charges to 95% if you charge it whilst off but is happy to charge 100% when left on to charge.
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Under UK generic .75 the phone charges all the way to 100% while off now
iamthad said:
Tops out at 95% or 98%, but keeps varying from time to time ..... I have had the phone (XPS) for three days and not seen a 100% charge till now . Also one thing I have noticed is that the Notification light turns from Orange to Green. That's when I normally take the phone off charge.
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The led turns green at 90%. That's when it slows down charging to protect the battery..
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I don't know why my phone can only charge to 99% of battery, this is my second charge already and the first charge also can charge to 99% only
Anyone have same problem ?
Just leave it on the charger. Once it reaches 99% charging reduces to a trickle only. This is by design and not a fault. If you charge overnight you should find it at 100% in the morning .
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This is renowned in the official samsung roms of the galaxy series. Do not concern yourself, there is nothing wrong with your phone.
so the best thing to do is to leave it like 1 hour on the charger? I find it annoying to .. If it says fully charged and remove the charger it should be 100% and not 99..
Thank you so much. But when my phone charge reach 100% and i leave it continue charge 2 hours more already and it still show 99% right after i unplug charger.
Don't worry about it at all. There is nothing you can do for it to say 100%. No matter how long you leave it on the charger, once the phone says it's at 100% and you disconnect it will drop to 99%. It isn't a fault, it's what samsung does.
If you want to be really nit picky, you could say that within a second of disconnecting the charger, the phone technically has used some of the battery to stay on, no matter how minimal, so 'technically' with some tiny tiny amount of battery used it is no longer at 100%
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Don't worry about it at all. There is nothing you can do for it to say 100%. No matter how long you leave it on the charger, once the phone says it's at 100% and you disconnect it will drop to 99%. It isn't a fault, it's what samsung does.
If you want to be really nit picky, you could say that within a second of disconnecting the charger, the phone technically has used some of the battery to stay on, no matter how minimal, so 'technically' with some tiny tiny amount of battery used it is no longer at 100%
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Thank you, acttually i came from ONE X, my ONE X take 1 hour to drop from 100% to 99%.
So there are no need to worry about it now. And my S3 battery was great. It can last from morning to night with heavy usage.
Wipe battery status in CWM
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Don't worry about it at all. There is nothing you can do for it to say 100%. No matter how long you leave it on the charger, once the phone says it's at 100% and you disconnect it will drop to 99%. It isn't a fault, it's what samsung does.
If you want to be really nit picky, you could say that within a second of disconnecting the charger, the phone technically has used some of the battery to stay on, no matter how minimal, so 'technically' with some tiny tiny amount of battery used it is no longer at 100%
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Leave your phone on charge, go to CWM wipe the battery then reboot. It should go back to 100% shortly. That's what I did and it worked!
Reason why it really doesn't charge 100% is to protect battery as li-ion batteries should never let completely empty or full as the battery can die.
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Mine charged to 100% and never have this problem with my S2
This is frustrating isnt it!
Also has anyone else found that it takes longer to charge than other phones? I.e. my S2?
Im presuming this is due to the bigger capacity battery
battery can only ever be 99.999999999999999999999999999% after you unplug the charger!!!!
not another one....
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Mine charges to 100%, dry wiping battery stats. Though to be honest. It drops to 99% the instant I unplug it.
To avoid my OCD, I just disabled the percentage/1% mods. LOL, it makes me too obsessive.
Mine charges to 100% but drops to 99% within 10 minutes. Need to disable percentage display as well asap lol
I have read much about it. It is probably intentional. to save battery or something like that. Do not be so angry about it 99% it the new 100% haha
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Read up on lithium ion batteries..
Marquesbrownlee on YouTube explains it. 'Top 3 Battery Myths'
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Battery only charges to about 95% when it is reading 100% anyway. This is for the health of the battery, can't remember the technical details though.
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Battery only charges to about 95% when it is reading 100% anyway. This is for the health of the battery, can't remember the technical details though.
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This.
Its a feature to preserve the longevity of the battery.
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