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I've posted this question on a few other forums over the weekend and came up with nothing. Thought I'd branch out even more and found this forum. I've searched this forum and the wiki and google for far too long to just find out if it is possible and if so how hard it would be.
I'm on a youtube channel trying to follow a 200 lesson series on Android development when all I want to know first is if my app idea is possible. I want to make an app for mass texting to a small group probably under 100 people at any given time. I don't need any of that short code stuff, actually I'd like to use my GV# since that's a free long code. Right now what I do is I use GV & the Gmail workaround (if you don't know what that is you can ask me or google it) but it is a long and tedious process due to the fluctuation of subscribers. I need the keywords capability too, which GV does not provide which led me to think about making an app. I would also like to have people added to the list automatically via keyword. I will be sending out 10-20 or so bursts a month from my AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II. I'm obviously getting pretty desperate... any help, questions, or advice?
lgmdp 1.5
http://sharemobile.ro/file/616562
lg united mobile drivers
http://
www.lgforum.com/resources
a very important sdk tool
http://
developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
Android
Development Tools (ADT)
[The ADT plugin
includes a variety of powerful
extensions that make creating,
running, and debugging Android
applications faster and easier.]
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Components-Libraries/Android-Development-Tools.shtml
Super one click [tool for rooting gb ]
http://shortfuse.org/?page_id=2
gingerbreak [tool for rooting froyo]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
Android kitchen [a great tool for ROM customization]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
terminal emulator [A great tool for linux commands]
http://www.papktop.com/android-terminal-emulator-1-0-32.html
z4root [tool for rooting 2.2.1 and 2.1]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/
showthread.php?t=833953
(by ibub)
kdz updator
http://www.2shared.com/file/QcnRcyua/KDZ_Updater.html
java development kit
http://software-files-a.cnet.com/u/test/jdk-7u10-windows-i586.exe
fastboot.exe
http://www.2shared.com/file/4l7HKE3O/fastboot.html
flash_image [if u use terminal emulator]
http://www.mediafire.com/?7pkcte8gcyn9pet
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below tools are taken from lycan thread all credit goes to him for the below ones
apktool : http://forum.xda-
developers.com/showthread.php?
t=640592
APK Multi Tool : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310151
StudioAndroid : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1541372
adb pusher : http://www.xda-developers.com/android/push-files-to-your-device-with-quick-adb-pusher/
Bootanimation Creator :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234611
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ROOT APPLICATION (tAKEN FROM I CLICK ROOT) (I WIlL ADD MINE SOON AND NEVER GONNA INCLUDE ROM MANAGER)
10) ShootMe – Screenshot app
Android has a lot of advantages over its
main competitor, Apple’s iOS. However,
unlike iOS, Android doesn’t give users the
ability to take screenshots of their
phones. Thanks to the ShootMe app
available on rooted phones, that problem
is a thing of the past. This app allows you
to set up a trigger for when the phone
should take a screenshot. For example, if
you want to take a screenshot every
time you shake your phone, you can easily
set that up.
9) Titanium Backup – Automatic backup
and recovery app
No electronic device is immune to
failures. If you’re like most people, you
keep some valuable information on your
Android device. From phone numbers to
pictures and everything in between,
losing access to that data could be
devastating. That’s why you need
Titanium Backup, an app which allows
rooted Android users to set automatic
backup options. All apps and other data
is saved, so if you screw up your phone
while trying to install a custom ROM, you
can easily restore it with the click of a
button.
8) Metamorph – Customize every single
aspect of your phone
After rooting an Android phone, one of
the first things that many users do is
customize their device. Thanks to the
Metamorph app, phone customization is
as easy as possible. Simply download the
app, then browse through a selection of
custom themes. If you want, you can
even make your own theme. Using
Metamorph, you can personalize your lock
screen, menus, app screens, and all
other aspects of your Android phone.
7) Adfree – Instant advertisement
blocking
Sick of seeing advertisements on your
phone? Aren’t we all! With the Adfree
app, you’ll never have to see another
advertisement again. The Adfree app
works in a unique way: instead of
actively scanning each app and webpage
for advertisements (which slows down
Android performance), Adfree simply
blocks the IP addresses of common
advertising agencies. This means that
advertisements will refuse to pop up
while using apps, browsing the internet,
or performing any other types of tasks
on your phone.
6) Busybox – Use Linux commands
Busybox might not appeal to the average
Android user, but it will certainly appeal
to tech geeks and Linux users. Busybox is
an app that adds Linux commands to your
Android device. To make the app as easy
as possible to use, Busybox even lists the
commands, making it easy to perform a
wide variety of functions that are
normally unavailable to users of non-
rooted Android devices.
5) Wireless Tether – Wireless hotspot app
Share your Android phone’s data
connection with any other wireless
device using the Wireless Tether app.
This is an ideal way to use your phone
data on your laptop while you’re in an
area with no internet connection,
although tethering can be used for a
wide variety of purposes. With the
Wireless Tether app, tethering can be
performed on any carrier and any
Android phone. Since some companies like
AT&T charge an additional $20 per
month for tethering, this makes the
Wireless Tether app an extremely
valuable tool.
4) Tasker – Automatic task app
Tasker is a smart app that will automate
all sorts of tasks on your phone. For
example, you can set a task to run every
day at 5pm, or perform plenty of other
useful functions. Although Tasker is
available from the Google Play store, it
won’t have root access on non-rooted
Android phones. When you give Tasker
root access, expect to see some
phenomenal results.
3) SSH Tunnel – Safeguard your internet
usage
Instead of letting anyone see what
you’re doing on the internet, the SSH
Tunnel encrypts your internet
connection using an SSH tunnel. When
you access a public Wi-Fi network
without an app like SSH Tunnel installed,
anybody with basic technical skills can
see what you’re doing over the internet,
which is most definitely a bad thing.
2) SetCPU – Overclock and monitor your
processor
The processor is at the heart of your
Android phone’s operations. On a normal
Android device, the user’s actions won’t
affect how the CPU functions. However,
thanks to the SetCPU app, that is no
longer a problem. SetCPU allows users to
customize the CPU to run at different
frequencies according to what the user
is currently doing. For example, you can
instantly reduce the CPU’s clock speed
when the screen is turned off, which
saves an enormous amount of battery
life. Ultimately, SetCPU allows you to
save battery power, speed up your
Android device, and monitor its
temperature.
1) Superuser – The first app to install on
a rooted Android device
MINE ROOTED APS
Hide my Root
Sure, CyanogenMod may be getting
more granular root settings, but
can you password protect them?
This app can.
--
Hide my Root lets you temporarily
hide the superuser binary and app
so that no applications or users can
get root access. You can even set a
password so that only you can
restore root access. On some roms
(usually rooted stock roms), Hide
my Root will allow you to use
Google Videos and similar apps on a
rooted phone. On custom roms
such as CyanogenMod, it will not
allow you to use Google Videos and
similar apps on a rooted phone.
Root Logger by Stericson
Root Logger is the only application
that can log all shell commands
that are sent to your phone,
including those from other rooted
applications. Root Logger can also
tell you who executed the
command, when it was executed,
and whether or not the command
was executed with root access. This
application will help you keep an
eye on what's being sent to the
shell on your phone and what those
applications are doing on your
phone. This Application requires
root access, busybox, and these
commands, which are usually
provided by Busybox, chmod, ln, ls,
cp, chattr, and rm.
Root Explorer
This is by far one of the most
comprehensive file managers out there.
This app gives you access to the whole of
android's file system and includes
features like an SQLite database viewer,
Text Editor, the ability to create and
extract zip or tar/gzip files, extract rar
archives, multi-select, execute scripts,
search, remount, permissions,
bookmarks, and lots more. There’s a free
version as well for you to try out.
Call Master
This advanced call and SMS blocker
gives you unique privacy features for
rooted users. With the app running
silently in the background, you can block
an MMS before it downloads, filter SMSs
by content and lots more.
MarketEnabler
You’ll notice that certain apps are
country specific and won’t show up in
the Play Store on your phone.
MarketEnabler helps you get around this
by tricking the Play Store into thinking
you are actually in that country or region
and allowing you to download the app.
You obviously won’t find this on the Play
Store, but a quick Google search will
help.
SD Maid
SD Maid will automatically clean up
unwanted files left behind when you
uninstall apps. Just like Windows,
sometimes certain files are not deleted
when you uninstall them and they can
clutter your file system over time. This
app helps remove those unwanted files.
StickMount
This app was designed to enable USB
On-the-go access on the Galaxy Nexus,
but there’s no reason why it shouldn’t
work on other handsets running ICS and
above. All you need is the cable and then
you can access data from your pen drives
easily, thus expanding your storage
Call Master
This advanced call and SMS blocker gives
you unique privacy features for rooted
users. With the app running silently in the
background, you can block an MMS
before it downloads, filter SMSs by
content and lots more.
Great Thread!!
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jerry7389 said:
Great Thread!!
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thanks
i have contacted one of the moderators to keep the thread on the first page waiting for their reply
and if u have more tell me i will add them as soon as possible
Honestly and no offense to you but this already exist as a sticky, a pretty well written thread by sweetnsour
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Jrhodes85 said:
Honestly and no offense to you but this already exist as a sticky, a pretty well written thread by sweetnsour
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if u can give me the thread link
Jrhodes85 said:
Honestly and no offense to you but this already exist as a sticky, a pretty well written thread by sweetnsour
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androidisfuture said:
if u can give me the thread link
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I think he is talking about this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256048
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Christian Nothing said:
I think he is talking about this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256048
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if he is talking abt this then my thread is not similar to sweetnsour as i am giving tools and i can only find android kitchen similar tell me if u agree
i have added 4 more :victory:
as sdk contains a varirty of tools like Dalvik Debug Monitor Server (ddms);dmtracedump etc my list is getting to an end but still no answer from the moderators
Jrhodes85 said:
Honestly and no offense to you but this already exist as a sticky, a pretty well written thread by sweetnsour
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To be honest, I feel that this kind of exists in Lycan's sticky:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247
specifically this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25489058&postcount=177
sweetnsour said:
To be honest, I feel that this kind of exists in Lycan's sticky:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247
specifically this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25489058&postcount=177
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now i feel that this is similar but i am trying to add more and more if u have some tell me
Could lycan be asked to link to this as an additional resource? The main difference that I see is that lycan's sticky is categorized and a lot of the tools are somewhat scattered in different branches . Yes, I know you specified the post for kernels, mods tweaks and TOOLS. But not all that is listed here, is listed there. Maybe a compromise is in order?
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ibub said:
Could lycan be asked to link to this as an additional resource? The main difference that I see is that lycan's sticky is categorized and a lot of the tools are somewhat scattered. Yes, I know you specified the post for kernels, mods tweaks and TOOLS. But not all that is listed here, is listed there. Maybe a compromise is in order?
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i have pm lykan but no response i think he missed my pm
ibub said:
Could lycan be asked to link to this as an additional resource? The main difference that I see is that lycan's sticky is categorized and a lot of the tools are somewhat scattered in different branches . Yes, I know you specified the post for kernels, mods tweaks and TOOLS. But not all that is listed here, is listed there. Maybe a compromise is in order?
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androidisfuture said:
i have pm lykan but no response i think he missed my pm
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I am not sure if a compromise is possible. By looking at Lycan's last post, it looks like he hasn't been on for several months now. The thing is, that thread was first started by Bytecode, who handed the thread over to Lycan, so if Lycan was still active on XDA, I would've requested ownership of the thread. But since he has been inactive, I think it would be alright to copy the tools from his thread to yours (since his thread is not just about tools and such while this thread is), and in the event that he does come back online and asks for the tools to be removed from this thread, maybe there can be some sort of a compromise then.
sweetnsour said:
I am not sure if a compromise is possible. By looking at Lycan's last post, it looks like he hasn't been on for several months now. The thing is, that thread was first started by Bytecode, who handed the thread over to Lycan, so if Lycan was still active on XDA, I would've requested ownership of the thread. But since he has been inactive, I think it would be alright to copy the tools from his thread to yours (since his thread is not just about tools and such while this thread is), and in the event that he does come back online and asks for the tools to be removed from this thread, maybe there can be some sort of a compromise then.
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ok i will see to it
if i can copy i will give credit to him
i have 5 more they are of lycan
the thread is now a sticky
Thanks !!!
hi there forgive me if i have posted this in wrong section,
i am looking for an app that will give me location history, i know there are plenty of apps out there like Google latitude, find my friend but what I was looking is, it will show me what locations they have been to because
i run a small leaflet business where i send people to distribute leaflets to doors but i think few of my employees are lying, as they take work phone with them i want to install such an app that will save their location and show me which area they have been to. i tried google latitude but it only shows where they are in real time. haven't found any app that will give me their location history which i can have look later in the day to check if they have done their job properly.
i hope someone understands me and advice me if there is any app that i can use.
thanks
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Hey,
When I turned on my phone the RAM it was taking was 300 MB, after a days use it is now 500MB (even after pressing 'clear RAM' button).
I've entered Settings->apps->running and it shows only two small things (the keyboard and some weather widget) which combined take only 20 MB.
So what is the rest of the memory is beign allocated for?
Thank you.
Does your rom have Usage Manager in the app drawer?
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Here is the path to all your applications.
Settings -> Apps --> Swipe left until the menu Running --> On top you see the description "Show cached processes", klick on it --> now you see the rest of the running applications
pc103 said:
Does your rom have Usage Manager in the app drawer?
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No, the closest I have is "Task Manager".
lenovoOwner said:
Here is the path to all your applications.
Settings -> Apps --> Swipe left until the menu Running --> On top you see the description "Show cached processes", klick on it --> now you see the rest of the running applications
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Thank you, indeed I see some more RAM guzzlers, but It seems like they make up most of the addition but not all of it ... plus funny thing, when I try to close everything (in 'running' and 'cache) and I reenter- here it is there again...
1) Can I see all of the elements that take up my ram (the system as well)?
2) Can I close them properly?
Thank you very much.
PS. Is there some comfortable way to jump between apps? Like in the Iphone where by pressing the 'Home' button will show you a bar with a row of icons of the currently active processes....
For your PS question, it's a long press on the Home button (below the GS3 screen).
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The closest app I'm running to that option is Android Tuner Free. I got it for its storage optimization functions.
The busy interface has a learning curve, but it is a comprehensive & poweful app. I recommend Advanced mode & the One Click home screen.
For what you want, see both the Tasks & Kill All tiles. The first is a Task Mgr., the second is a quick 1 click. The app can teach a lot about what runs & why. It also offers a lot of fine control.
I also use the root app Startup Manager which is self explanatory & efficient.
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pc103 said:
For your PS question, it's a long press on the Home button (below the GS3 screen).
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LOL {hit myself on the head}, didn't occur me to try...
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pc103 said:
The closest app I'm running to that option is Android Tuner Free. I got it for its storage optimization functions.
The busy interface has a learning curve, but it is a comprehensive & poweful app. I recommend Advanced mode & the One Click home screen.
For what you want, see both the Tasks & Kill All tiles. The first is a Task Mgr., the second is a quick 1 click. The app can teach a lot about what runs & why. It also offers a lot of fine control.
I also use the root app Startup Manager which is self explanatory & efficient.
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I was hoping there is a way to avoid using apps...
Ok, I suppose it opens another question which I thought about creating a new thread for, but if the opportunity already arose...
How do you actually know if you can trust an app?
I'm kinda new to android and I'm much more used to the opennes of windows, also I'm pretty paranoid (a cellphone contains information 100 times more sensitive than a PC (At least my PC is like that)). I look at the permissions every app want to have and I'm simply aghast, I know of the logic behind those requests (at least for most of those I've seen) but I have zero transparency over what actions the app takes.
That really stress me a great deal...
oy-ster said:
How do you actually know if you can trust an app?. . . (a cellphone contains information 100 times more sensitive than a PC (At least my PC is like that)). I look at the permissions every app want to have and I'm simply aghast, I know of the logic behind those requests (at least for most of those I've seen) but I have zero transparency over what actions the app takes.
That really stress me a great deal...
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Digital Privacy
Well it certainly stresses the last remaining fiber of your privacy. I just watched the latest "60 Minutes Overtime" piece on data brokers framing this as a lifestyle issue. Step back from the small screen & consider that your actions on board the PC have a ripple effect on your smartphone. "NAI Opt out" & "Disconnect software" are useful PC search words.
Where it Went
I rarely hear from a tech guru or even a lawyer who can decipher a EULA, TOS or Privacy agreement they didn't author themselves; yet online, we are steeped in the cumulative concessions we have accepted from them and the affiliates and partners they enable for.
The Biggest Brother?
Google is a data harvester, not a broker. They are the custodians of much of our imprint online across all platforms. check your settings accordingly; within each Google service / app/ platform you use and adjust them to taste. Know, for example, that persistent login to Gmail will append any collocated G-Search activity to your G profile if Web Data | Web History remains on. I read recently that simply joining Plus has a similar but more comprehensive effect by default, by unifying the G tracking across your entire electronic imprint.
Android Permissions
Yes. The most invasive part of Android is its permissions free for all. They are demands, not requests that each app poses. The logic is sometimes one sided and self serving to the developers at our disadvantage. What can we do?
1. Know something about your developer. XDA membership in an app developer helps define their role in a community. Check their website, reviews, accessibility, postings etc.
2. Consider lower permission alternative apps listed in the play store.
3. For each app you review in the Play Store, (have you checked play store settings yet?) assess its longevity in the marketplace to decide if you are willing to be an early adopter.
4. Resist resorting to apps to broker built-in functions your system already has. Learn your OS.
5. Weigh the logic of each permission demanded, based on risk / reward and your intended uses. Example: On my phone Google search leads the field with 59 permissions. App Permisssions by FSecure is in the low end group with zero. How do I know? App Permissions. What can I do? More on that later.
6. Debloat. I have frozen over 60 apps/services/processes using a combination of tools ranging from built in (no root) Application Management to Startup Manager and the App Quarantine app.
7. Don't be lazy about toggling settings as needed. One stock default has the GPS always enabled which may not be necessary for you.
8. Learn about the types of location services in your OS. Check location settings in affected apps and consider toggling location services as needed. Apps will prompt if the needed service is off when you use them.
9. Review your synch settings. Mine are off on the OS. I use a 3rd party mail app and manually back up contacts using Super Backup when needed.
10. Review background data settings. they are visible in Settings / Data usage, by selecting Mobile Data, and scrolling to the list of apps to tap through each and set Restrict background data if appropriate. It saves battery by reducing tower hunting and focuses you on which apps pose the highest demands.
I promised more. Learn about App Ops if you haven't. I have the luxury of running a 4.3 version that supports it so I can use a client app to filter and toggle various permissions on a per app basis. There are other, and perhaps more thorough approaches to this but I'm staying with this one for now.
pc103 said:
Digital Privacy
Well it certainly stresses the last remaining fiber of your privacy. I just watched the latest "60 Minutes Overtime" piece on data brokers framing this as a lifestyle issue. Step back from the small screen & consider that your actions on board the PC have a ripple effect on your smartphone. "NAI Opt out" & "Disconnect software" are useful PC search words.
Where it Went
I rarely hear from a tech guru or even a lawyer who can decipher a EULA, TOS or Privacy agreement they didn't author themselves; yet online, we are steeped in the cumulative concessions we have accepted from them and the affiliates and partners they enable for.
The Biggest Brother?
Google is a data harvester, not a broker. They are the custodians of much of our imprint online across all platforms. check your settings accordingly; within each Google service / app/ platform you use and adjust them to taste. Know, for example, that persistent login to Gmail will append any collocated G-Search activity to your G profile if Web Data | Web History remains on. I read recently that simply joining Plus has a similar but more comprehensive effect by default, by unifying the G tracking across your entire electronic imprint.
Android Permissions
Yes. The most invasive part of Android is its permissions free for all. They are demands, not requests that each app poses. The logic is sometimes one sided and self serving to the developers at our disadvantage. What can we do?
1. Know something about your developer. XDA membership in an app developer helps define their role in a community. Check their website, reviews, accessibility, postings etc.
2. Consider lower permission alternative apps listed in the play store.
3. For each app you review in the Play Store, (have you checked play store settings yet?) assess its longevity in the marketplace to decide if you are willing to be an early adopter.
4. Resist resorting to apps to broker built-in functions your system already has. Learn your OS.
5. Weigh the logic of each permission demanded, based on risk / reward and your intended uses. Example: On my phone Google search leads the field with 59 permissions. App Permisssions by FSecure is in the low end group with zero. How do I know? App Permissions. What can I do? More on that later.
6. Debloat. I have frozen over 60 apps/services/processes using a combination of tools ranging from built in (no root) Application Management to Startup Manager and the App Quarantine app.
7. Don't be lazy about toggling settings as needed. One stock default has the GPS always enabled which may not be necessary for you.
8. Learn about the types of location services in your OS. Check location settings in affected apps and consider toggling location services as needed. Apps will prompt if the needed service is off when you use them.
9. Review your synch settings. Mine are off on the OS. I use a 3rd party mail app and manually back up contacts using Super Backup when needed.
10. Review background data settings. they are visible in Settings / Data usage, by selecting Mobile Data, and scrolling to the list of apps to tap through each and set Restrict background data if appropriate. It saves battery by reducing tower hunting and focuses you on which apps pose the highest demands.
I promised more. Learn about App Ops if you haven't. I have the luxury of running a 4.3 version that supports it so I can use a client app to filter and toggle various permissions on a per app basis. There are other, and perhaps more thorough approaches to this but I'm staying with this one for now.
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Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply!
Indeed some of the things here are common sense but some were fairly new to me, like the close contact you are suggesting with the developer.
I have to ask though, what reviews are you reffering to? the ones in the app market or the ones on here? Also, from what I have seen in the play market, all of the reviews are about functionality but no one actualy checks the veracity of the code.
Like for instance some song recognition&download software that requires internet access permission (makes sense) and SD card access permission (also makes sense), but besides doing what it does (in a splendid manner, leaving tons of happy customers) it also steals your Whatsapp chat logs (just read an article about that breach 10 mins ago)...
How can people catch on that (otherwise the app will linger for 2 years, giving you the impression you're not an early adopter)?
Hrmph, you have given some very sound advice which I obviously intend to follow through and for that I thank you. However it seems to me like the underlying foundation is still trust in the publisher (not to abuse the permissions you had to enable for functionality sake), and the trust should stem from how well the author presents itself to the community. I suppose it is the nature of the beast, it is just that if I were to sneakily attack someone I would make sure to present myself in th best way possible .
thx.
PS. my version is 4.1 but I'll see what I can do about Appops.
P.P.S I just searched for "Tasks" on google market and all I see is an organizer. Did you mean "Task Killer"?
oy-ster said:
Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply!
Indeed some of the things here are common sense but some were fairly new to me, like the close contact you are suggesting with the developer.
I have to ask though, what reviews are you reffering to? the ones in the app market or the ones on here? Also, from what I have seen in the play market, all of the reviews are about functionality but no one actualy checks the veracity of the code.
Both sources really. There's no hard & fast divide as to what aspect reviewers might respond to at either venue. More often, Play Store reviews have alerted me when my device or my Android version gets poor results from an app. Granted code integrity issues are raised more frequently at XDA.
Like for instance some song recognition&download software that requires internet access permission (makes sense) and SD card access permission (also makes sense), but besides doing what it does (in a splendid manner, leaving tons of happy customers) it also steals your Whatsapp chat logs (just read an article about that breach 10 mins ago)...
How can people catch on that (otherwise the app will linger for 2 years, giving you the impression you're not an early adopter)?
Interesting example. I will look for the article. I wonder if the app declared that permission in their Play Store disclosure. If not, it challenged Google's policing system. I read somewhere that SELinux in newer ROMs, set to "Enforcing" brokers applicable policies from each host domain and also restricts apps from exceeding their declared permissions. (See also my note on 4.3+ below)
Hrmph, you have given some very sound advice which I obviously intend to follow through and for that I thank you. However it seems to me like the underlying foundation is still trust in the publisher (not to abuse the permissions you had to enable for functionality sake), and the trust should stem from how well the author presents itself to the community. I suppose it is the nature of the beast, it is just that if I were to sneakily attack someone I would make sure to present myself in th best way possible .
You're welcome! Placing that trust is ultimately a leap of faith, so we ask ourselves:
Does my configuration already offer this function at the OS or existing app level?
Can I justify each declared permission here?
Is there a less invasive equivalent to this app?
Have I gone over the settings thoroughly once installed?
What does my installed anti-virus say about this?
Do I need this to auto launch or only on demand?
Is it using excessive data or uptime as I monitor?
Am I getting all the Android security I could be with my current rom image?
You get the picture. Common sense, best practices & due diligence can go a long way toward closing the security gap.
PS. my version is 4.1 but I'll see what I can do about Appops.
Google only exposed it (to client apps like App Ops Starter) in 4.3 & 4.4.0, before & after that I believe an Xposed Framework module is the main alternative.
P.P.S I just searched for "Tasks" on google market and all I see is an organizer. Did you mean "Task Killer"?
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The "Tasks & Kill All tiles" I referred to appear on Android Tuner Free's One Click advanced mode home screen. BTW certain apps on my phone are "frozen" when not in use.
I forgot to mention. 4.3 I'm running is on the 4.1.2 bootloader, completely avoiding lopsided knox security. I hope I didn't appear to recommend the OTA update. That's a personal choice.
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Both sources really. There's no hard & fast divide as to what aspect reviewers might respond to at either venue. More often, Play Store reviews have alerted me when my device or my Android version gets poor results from an app. Granted code integrity issues are raised more frequently at XDA.
Interesting example. I will look for the article. I wonder if the app declared that permission in their Play Store disclosure. If not, it challenged Google's policing system. I read somewhere that SELinux in newer ROMs, set to "Enforcing" brokers applicable policies from each host domain and also restricts apps from exceeding their declared permissions. (See also my note on 4.3+ below)
You're welcome! Placing that trust is ultimately a leap of faith, so we ask ourselves:
Does my configuration already offer this function at the OS or existing app level?
Can I justify each declared permission here?
Is there a less invasive equivalent to this app?
Have I gone over the settings thoroughly once installed?
What does my installed anti-virus say about this?
Do I need this to auto launch or only on demand?
Is it using excessive data or uptime as I monitor?
Am I getting all the Android security I could be with my current rom image?
You get the picture. Common sense, best practices & due diligence can go a long way toward closing the security gap.
Google only exposed it (to client apps like App Ops Starter) in 4.3 & 4.4.0, before & after that I believe an Xposed Framework module is the main alternative.
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Thanks again!
I just wanted to note that after spending some time here in the forum( http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/ ) looking for some intresting picks, I haven't actually encountered much comments from people that actually went over the code... so I'm a bit bummed out. :silly: :laugh:
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The "Tasks & Kill All tiles" I referred to appear on Android Tuner Free's One Click advanced mode home screen. BTW certain apps on my phone are "frozen" when not in use.
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Oh. Got it.
Anyway, Thank you!!!
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Thanks again!
I just wanted to note that after spending some time here in the forum( http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/ ) looking for some intresting picks, I haven't actually encountered much comments from people that actually went over the code... so I'm a bit bummed out. :silly: :laugh:
...Anyway, Thank you!!!
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You're welcome. To be fair, most times I've seen postings by people who background checked code it was in rom threads, or over root exploits or security apps. In most other cases due diligence is our best defense.
Hi,
I've been assigned to set up my schools tablet system. I've got to somehow build a login system that can login the user, then send the login details to a network folder, and then after a set interval log the user out again and lock them out from logging in again that same day. I know a bit about android roms but not that much about apps. Anyone who want's to GUIDE me on how to do this? I'd really like to create something myself with the help of others and not get something prebuilt.
Thanks in advance,
Shadow
Do you have programming experience in general?
If you send info to a network folder how would you prevent a user from connecting to the network and changing the network folder manually?
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Do you have programming experience in general?
If you send info to a network folder how would you prevent a user from connecting to the network and changing the network folder manually?
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I don't really have any experience programming. I'm learning Java right now. And the system is for a primary school, so unless these kids are geniuses I don't think they'll change the network folder.
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I don't really have any experience programming. I'm learning Java right now. And the system is for a primary school, so unless these kids are geniuses I don't think they'll change the network folder.
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In that case, I think it's a pretty great project to learn Android development for a programmer. But since you're not a programmer, you will need to learn Java before...
But also, you'd be surprised what kids these days are doing.. With a simple download of Wireshark and the likes of it, snooping network traffic, etc... It really isn't rocket science anymore. But if it's not absolutely imperative that no student ever beats the system that really makes it a great learning project.
Unfortunately, I do not have time to properly and fully guide you through the whole process as I'd like, but for any direct question you have, I'll help as much as I can.
I assume you have some kind of deadline? How much time do you have for it?
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In that case, I think it's a pretty great project to learn Android development for a programmer. But since you're not a programmer, you will need to learn Java before...
But also, you'd be surprised what kids these days are doing.. With a simple download of Wireshark and the likes of it, snooping network traffic, etc... It really isn't rocket science anymore. But if it's not absolutely imperative that no student ever beats the system that really makes it a great learning project.
Unfortunately, I do not have time to properly and fully guide you through the whole process as I'd like, but for any direct question you have, I'll help as much as I can.
I assume you have some kind of deadline? How much time do you have for it?
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I have about a month for it.
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Well, that will definitely make you cut corners in your learning...
You'll either need lots of help from somoene experienced or use something prebuilt...
Hopefully there's someone here (or somewhere) who has the time and knowledge to help you. As I said, I can give you straight answers with a little bit of help, but guiding you through the whole project is unfortunately out of my available free time...
Another piece of helpful information for potential people to guide you though would be what exactly does "login" mean in the sense of will the tablet be unusable/locked while not logged in? While there be some apps locked? Will the tablet be "normal", but the login allows the user to access within the same login app some other stuff? Etc... This could potentially significantly change the weight of the project.
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Well, that will definitely make you cut corners in your learning...
You'll either need lots of help from somoene experienced or use something prebuilt...
Hopefully there's someone here (or somewhere) who has the time and knowledge to help you. As I said, I can give you straight answers with a little bit of help, but guiding you through the whole project is unfortunately out of my available free time...
Another piece of helpful information for potential people to guide you though would be what exactly does "login" mean in the sense of will the tablet be unusable/locked while not logged in? While there be some apps locked? Will the tablet be "normal", but the login allows the user to access within the same login app some other stuff? Etc... This could potentially significantly change the weight of the project.
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The login app basically needs to act as a launcher so that when people unlock the device they have to login to proceed to the homescreen.
In that case, I have no experience with developing custom launchers/lockscreens which would be the best solution. Hopefully someone who has experience and knowledge in that field will help you. You would also need to disable installation of custom launchers/lockscreen because that would easily override your lock so it makes the project actually not that basic and out of my domain, I'm sorry.
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In that case, I have no experience with developing custom launchers/lockscreens which would be the best solution. Hopefully someone who has experience and knowledge in that field will help you. You would also need to disable installation of custom launchers/lockscreen because that would easily override your lock so it makes the project actually not that basic and out of my domain, I'm sorry.
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It doesn't need to be a fully fledged launcher, it just needs to appear when pressing the home button
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But does the tablet need to be disabled if not logged in? If so, I'm not sure this could be achieved without a lockscreen/launcher and even then what if the user goes to apps and changes the default launcher... Hmmm...
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It just needs to be the default launcher, not really much else. Settings and other unnecessary apps will be disabled using the multi account feature
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It just needs to be the default launcher, not really much else. Settings and other unnecessary apps will be disabled using the multi account feature
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Hm, I'm reading up a bit on the multi account feature and it seems that users can still change some settings and install apps and also the feature itself seems to be available only on some devices so you might want to check for all this (installing apps might be a problem if a user can install another launcher instead of the current one). I don't have a multi-account capable device to check that out.
I'm guessing that whatever the case may be, the code for login would be the same so you might want to get started with a simple android app that just does the login (without actually logging in meaning anything) so you have that code ready. Until then, hopefully you, me or someone more experienced will think of what would be the easiest way to achieve the locking out and triggering the login and logout.
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Hm, I'm reading up a bit on the multi account feature and it seems that users can still change some settings and install apps and also the feature itself seems to be available only on some devices so you might want to check for all this (installing apps might be a problem if a user can install another launcher instead of the current one). I don't have a multi-account capable device to check that out.
I'm guessing that whatever the case may be, the code for login would be the same so you might want to get started with a simple android app that just does the login (without actually logging in meaning anything) so you have that code ready. Until then, hopefully you, me or someone more experienced will think of what would be the easiest way to achieve the locking out and triggering the login and logout.
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It works on the nexus 7, which is the tablet we're going to use
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