Hi guys,
As the title says, I'm looking for some custom Jelly Bean 4.3 Roms based on official Samsung Rom for my i9100, so it would have Touchwiz also.
Currently i keep switching between CM10.2 (4.3.1) and Wanamlite 14.7 (4.1.2).
I like Wanamlite just because it uses the Samsung Touchwiz interface i like so much. Other than that, any other stock Rom, rooted and debloated would do just about the same.
What i like about CM10.2 and cyanogenmod in general is the speed and stability the Rom feels like. Also, the latest 4.3 Roms gave me infinitely great battery lives compared to any other JB Rom i tried since. And judging from other posts and reviews on the internet, Google worked their magic on 4.3 to help small batteries run through the day (almost double the life of 4.1.2 or even worst 4.2.x).
So it seems the perfect combo for me would be a 4.3 custom with TW.
Is there such a Rom, because it seems i can't find it.
Thanks.
There is no such thing. TouchWiz is more than a launcher. It`s a full system framework integrated in pretty much everything. For example, TW ads the speed dial and video call in phone app, the swipe to quick call or message in contacts app, SNS integration, FM Radio. And of course all the other "smart" features, like smart display.
If however, you don't need any of the features mentioned above, you can find custom launchers with skins that look exactly like TW and use them on any custom rom.
Thank you for your reply.
I realize i can install some Launcher apps to get some of the TW "feel", as i already tried Apex and Nova launchers. But they don't come even close to the real TW experience. As you said, TW is more than an icon set or interface color set. It's also about built-in apps and features. I know nothing about coding and programming on Android, so i thought one could implement TW along all those apps into some custom ROM like CM10.2 (4.3).
So, i guess i was wrong.
If so, this thread can be closed.
Thank you.
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Would it be possible to have a few of TouchWiz's features, such as S-Beam, the Motion Gestures, the Camera App, the Pop-up player, etc but running on stock Android?
I like the features TouchWiz has, but I prefer the look and performance of stock Android.
Would it be possible to either theme the entire UI to make it look like stock Jelly Bean, while keeping the TouchWiz features?
I'm currently on CM10. I've already seen various threads on whether it is possible to port TouchWiz features on CM10.
I'm willing to remain on stock Samsung Jelly Bean, but I want the appearance of the phone to look similar to that of pure android.
I'm using Nova Launcher to theme my homescreen, and various widgets, however, if you are on TouchWiz when you open settings or the notification bar, the UI is not very attractive, and it's not very functional either - stock Jelly bean is far better in that respect, but TouchWiz's few killer features are absolutely amazing!
Thanks!
You can't have your cake and eat it too
So, is that a no? Because I'd love the same thing. The look of JB Vanilla but with some of the Samsung apps like S Planner and S Memo which I think are fantastic. Would love to get those .apks to use on another ROM.
Yeah, doesn't seem like it's possible!
Although sidthegreatest's point was good.
I'm going to try and set up a dual boot setup instead - with stock TouchWiz operating as my secondary ROM, and CyanogenMod10 running as primary.
Already have Siyah kernel installed!
Ive been messing around with root privileges for a while now, an think its nearly time to flash a new rom to get rid of all the crappy bloatware that comes preinstalled, and just generally get a few more features
What features will i lose if i chose to flash an AOKP rom rather than a modified touchwiz rom? i dont want to be losing NFC, Wifi Direct, Quick toggles or anything like that really if i can help it
Is there any benefit to an AOKP rom other than its an unaltered android experience?
Thanks
DUBS73P said:
Ive been messing around with root privileges for a while now, an think its nearly time to flash a new rom to get rid of all the crappy bloatware that comes preinstalled, and just generally get a few more features
What features will i lose if i chose to flash an AOKP rom rather than a modified touchwiz rom? i dont want to be losing NFC, Wifi Direct, Quick toggles or anything like that really if i can help it
Is there any benefit to an AOKP rom other than its an unaltered android experience?
Thanks
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From my experience AOKP roms are usually noticeably faster to switch between apps, to launch apps, multitask, and the home button lag is almost inexistent so they are really quick doing most of the stuff, there is a NFC fix somewhere around here in XDA I think most of the fixes you can find them on the Paranoid Android rom or the Super Nexus rom. On the other side... With the sammy roms you get all the cool extra features AND the camera! That they really come in handy most of the time!
Touchwiz is a ... Samsung ROM (sammy) launcher , AOKP is a ROM series based on CM anyway we've got and above description is more then enough . You better visit those threads to complete your doubts instead opening a new thread . AOKP = android open kang project
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I have been using SuperNexus Build 5 for a few months now: great ROM, very light and super stable.
But obviously, being AOSP-based, I miss the Samsung proprietary features (radio, better camera, etc.)
I'm wondering if there is any ROM based on Samsung stock (and therefore incorporating all the Samsung features) providing plain vanilla Android experience, just like on Google's Nexus devices, as SuperNexus does.
I've tried CodecROM, but it is still too heavily themed for my taste.
Try installing those mods on InsertCoin
Customized ROM Cleaner
4.2 Apps
JB Domination
Tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005845 ?
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Tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005845 ?
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I'll definitely give it a try.
Thanks!
FoxHound 1.6
degiovab said:
I have been using SuperNexus Build 5 for a few months now: great ROM, very light and super stable.
But obviously, being AOSP-based, I miss the Samsung proprietary features (radio, better camera, etc.)
I'm wondering if there is any ROM based on Samsung stock (and therefore incorporating all the Samsung features) providing plain vanilla Android experience, just like on Google's Nexus devices, as SuperNexus does.
I've tried CodecROM, but it is still too heavily themed for my taste.
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I'm using FoxHound Rising 1.6 right now since last friday and I have to say that It's really nice, provide Aroma Installer a lot o tweaks and a nice Original Android look and feel. I can use the FM radio, it brings updated google apps and all the Sammy's features that I tried until now works.
The only bug that I've found is when I tried to add an event for a contact like a birthday, the contact app got a FC.
All the rest are fine until now.
Here you can read about the features http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1708371
If you want to try it you can get it from here http://www.gearengine.it/?dl_name=http://www.gearengine.it/wordpress/FoxHound/GSIII/FoxHound_Rising_1.6_Full-Essential_JellyBean.zip.
Best Reagards
degiovab said:
I have been using SuperNexus Build 5 for a few months now: great ROM, very light and super stable.
But obviously, being AOSP-based, I miss the Samsung proprietary features (radio, better camera, etc.)
I'm wondering if there is any ROM based on Samsung stock (and therefore incorporating all the Samsung features) providing plain vanilla Android experience, just like on Google's Nexus devices, as SuperNexus does.
I've tried CodecROM, but it is still too heavily themed for my taste.
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You should try ultimarom. It exactly what you are looking for. On flashing you can select which app you want and which you don't.
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Try using any of the Sammy based roms and use holo locker and holo launcher. That's what I do and I haven't looked back.
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xmrenegade7 said:
Try using any of the Sammy based roms and use holo locker and holo launcher. That's what I do and I haven't looked back.
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but it won't change settings and other apps
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You should try ultimarom. It exactly what you are looking for. On flashing you can select which app you want and which you don't.
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Wow! Tried UltimaROM v8.0 and I love it!
Thanks a lot for the suggestion! :good:
degiovab said:
Wow! Tried UltimaROM v8.0 and I love it!
Thanks a lot for the suggestion! :good:
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I had been using UltimaROM for the same reason you are.
Before UltimaROM, I tried almost all roms here but I could not find anyone that close. It's a great rom.
Right now I am trying SuperNexus 2 rom from last 2-3 days. It's very light and feels very smooth. You might want to try it if you are romholic.
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Right now I am trying SuperNexus 2 rom from last 2-3 days. It's very light and feels very smooth. You might want to try it if you are romholic.
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Indeed I tried SuperNexus 2 (since I've been using SuperNexus Build 5 for months I'm a huge fan of Faryaab's work), but the way Android 4.2.1 manages the sdcard is awful (I do not really believe multiuser is needed for a smartphone... maybe it's useful for tablets).
Overall I could not find any significant improvement with 4.2.1 so I decided to stay with 4.1.2 and UltimaROM seems to me the best 4.1.2 Samsung-stock based rom with possibility to get AOSP look and feel (and now I have radio, working camera, voice recorder, etc.).
Thanks again!
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(and now I have radio, working camera, voice recorder, etc.).
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Yep, I miss that too.
I will be re-flashing Ultima this weekend.
alternative to stock rom
I really don't like the stock look of the phone. The lockscreen is the only exception. So, I'm exactly looking to go as much as possible away from stock Samsung appearances.
I recently used UltimaRom, which I believe is one of the best I've tried so far, but the stock dialer, contacts etc menus made me go back to Resurrection Remix or ReVOLT tipe of roms. Now, because I'm new at this whole customization thing I'll put some possibly silly questions below.
Here we go:
1. Can I put stock samsung apps like radio, s memos etc, etc. on a random rom? That way to avoid changing the whole rom.
2. What is a AOKP based rom and is that the type of rom I should look for? RRemix and Revolt both are AOKP based roms and their appearance is nice, but i experience fc's with them. There two roms have different dialer, contacts and during call look that I like better that any stock rom.
3. It is possible to use Sammy-based rom and just somehow replace the terrible menus with the menus from like RR and Revolt, but keep their custom looks.
I am struggling already few weeks to find working, lite, fast rom, that will be as far as possible from samsung-based roms, but at the same time stable and reliable daily driver.
I'm am not so much into experimenting with roms, more into finding one and sticking with it from that point on. I tried a lot of roms already - RR,Revolt, MIUI, UltimaRom and others. They are all either stock but stable or pretty customized but experimental. Please give me some advice.
Thanks.
Samsung Galaxy S3 I9300
xmrenegade7 said:
Try using any of the Sammy based roms and use holo locker and holo launcher. That's what I do and I haven't looked back.
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That's not the same thing at all...
gneus said:
2. What is a AOKP based rom and is that the type of rom I should look for? RRemix and Revolt both are AOKP based roms and their appearance is nice, but i experience fc's with them. There two roms have different dialer, contacts and during call look that I like better that any stock rom.
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AOKP (android open kang project)/AOSP (android open sorce project) is base android platform. And AOKP/AOSP based roms means they use base Android platform and add some additional features from their own like adding some apps or some theme/styling. If you like vanilla android look then you should try CM10.1 because that's base of most AOSP based roms.
gneus said:
1. Can I put stock samsung apps like radio, s memos etc, etc. on a random rom? That way to avoid changing the whole rom.
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Samsung phone apps will only work on samsung based roms. They will not work on other roms because samsung based apps only work with touchwiz framework (by samsung) and unless you add touchwiz framework support in other roms, apps simply will not work and you will experience FC. But there are always alternative apps available, so I don't think it's a big deal.
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3. It is possible to use Sammy-based rom and just somehow replace the terrible menus with the menus from like RR and Revolt, but keep their custom looks.
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There is also a themeing platform for Samsung based roms, it's JB DOMINATION if I am not wrong. This framework styles some general elements in samsung rom to provide feeling of AOSP platform. Rom developers used this framework and styled their rom to develop a good balance between samsung features with AOSP looks.
If you are a developer, you can try modifying any rom but if you are looking for a existing samsung rom to completely look like AOSP then you are out of luck. I don't think there is one.
As I mentioned above, if you are fond of AOSP looks then you might want to try CM10.1 rom. You will get clean android system.
I have tried many roms in past 3 months and I can only vouch for CM10.1 and SuperNexus 2. Both of these are good roms and do not include any unnecessary apps or styling. But give you great Android experience.
I've had my Note 2 for a few weeks. This is the first phone I haven't rooted and put on a custom ROM. I came from a Galaxy Nexus where I tried many flavors of ROM. The one thing I really miss from 4.2.2 is the ability to put widgets on the lock screen. (I use pattern lock).
Let me say that I'm not annoyed by TouchWiz so that's not the incentive to put on a custom ROM. And I definitely don't want "pure Google" as I'd choose AOKP over AOSP any day.
I'm tempted to put on a 4.2.2 ROM on the Note 2 but I'd like to know what I'd lose by doing so. The ROM threads talk about the features of their rom but don't tell me about what I'll lose. So, here are some questions.
Do all of the unique features of the phone work properly?
Does the Spen work properly?
Are the Spen apps that Samsung supplies available?
Does Multi-Window still work?
Can I have a floating video player?
Do the capabilities of AllShare go away?
I'm especially dependent upon Samsung Motion: Palm touch to mute, quick glance,
Does Smart Stay work? (Screen stays on while looking at it)
Is there a bullet list of things that go away?
Thanks for any help given. I like to be informed before I jump in.
As long as it's a TouchWiz ROM everything works. On AOSP, it's trickier. S-Pen works as a stylus, but you need third party apps to get some of the features back, and you have no multi-window, and all the motion, smart stay, and similar features go away.
But, stick to TouchWiz ROMs and it all works fine.
Edit: I just noticed that you referred to AOKP and AOSP separately, but they aren't. AOSP is the Google open source drop, and many ROMs from CM to AOKP to PAC and more are based on AOSP. So, AOKP *is* AOSP.
If you use a non-touchwiz rom, all the things that make the Note a Note, go away. All the Samsung features, multi window, s-pen, smart everything, s-pen preview, pop-up browser, s-planner, everything goes away.
You can use a third party note taking app, there are other floating browsers, s-pen works as a stylus only, not cut & paste or pop-up notes.
Stick with MeanBeans or CleanROM if you want full functionality.
Thanks for the quick replies. Very helpful information. It begs new questions.
1. Is there a TouchWiz ROM that is running 4.2?
2. If not, what's the benefit of installing a 4.1 TouchWiz ROM?
3. Can I easily tell if a rom is TouchWiz? Do they state it in their description?
TabGuy said:
Thanks for the quick replies. Very helpful information. It begs new questions.
1. Is there a TouchWiz ROM that is running 4.2?
2. If not, what's the benefit of installing a 4.1 TouchWiz ROM?
3. Can I easily tell if a rom is TouchWiz? Do they state it in their description?
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1. None of the TW ROMs are 4.2 at this point.
2. The advantages of the custom ROMs are that they combine lots of individual mods to improve overall functionality. Things like adding all apps to multi-window, editing the APN information to use another carrier's sim for data, changing the toggles in the notification window, etc.
3. The ROM description will tell you if the ROM is touchwiz based. Take a look at the dev forum...they are all listed there http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1888
There are no 4.2 TW ROMs. There are 4.1.2 ROMs, but they are not based on Verizon software. Whether or not that matters depends on whether or not you use Verizon apps. My Verizon works fine, but Visual Voicemail, NFL Mobile, etc will not work. All the Samsung stuff still works fine.
As for benefit, they are leaner, usually quicker, and have more features and customizations available. You can choose what stock apps you want to install and which you want to leave out, and generally give you more control over your phone. Possibly of particular interest to you since you mentioned multi-window specifically, all the TW ROMs I've tried allow any app to be added to the multi-window toolbar, and not just the few that Samsung decided to put in there.
Look for one that isn't AOSP, CM, AOKP, etc. Also, if it's 4.2, it's not TW. Generally, you're going to find TW ROMs in normal development, and non-TW in original development.
Clean ROM 1.5 is based on Verizon ll4 code base. Almost everything should work. You can pick and choose what stock apps you want to install when you flash it.
This is the closest to stock experience while still getting the benefits of a custom ROM.
Link to all the features
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2073390
Note 2 - Nexus 7 - Charge - Player 5.0 - Fascinate
Read twice, flash once
Is there any way to port the Touchwiz apps from stock jb to CM10 or CM10.1, because i feel the CM10.1 smoother than stock JB, but, i note the TW Camera App better than the default CM 10.1 camera app, and others apps like, message, phone, keyboard, s-note, paper artist...and so on...
i ask because i want to keep the essence of the note, and the speed/performance of CM...
niikko said:
Is there any way to port the Touchwiz apps from stock jb to CM10 or CM10.1, because i feel the CM10.1 smoother than stock JB, but, i note the TW Camera App better than the default CM 10.1 camera app, and others apps like, message, phone, keyboard, s-note, paper artist...and so on...
i ask because i want to keep the essence of the note, and the speed/performance of CM...
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cant have GOOD without EVIL my friend
is there any way we can get a REPUBLICAN to think like a DEMOCRAT???
not that I am either. it just seems as if we don't vote for who we want anymore, its voting for the lesser evil
good luck
No you cant port the TW apps to a non TW ROM. The reason is due to the framework. TouchWiz, while Android, uses a specific framework to run those apps. Such framework is not present in CM or any other ROM. So there is no way to port the apps.