I can't tap on the menu button and back button with the s-pen on GN2.
Is there a way to get the s-pen to take you back to the home screen ?
I read some thread (from 2011 and 2012) about "menu button" and "return button" of GN2 and I wanted to know if definitively it was impossible to use these two buttons with s-pen.
Today I'm on custom Rom Android 4.3 DN3.
For the moment I use "GMD Spen Control.apk" who is a good substitut.
Maybe There's a way to make these keys work with the s-pen
Your advice is welcome
The circuit that generates the magnetic field which allows the s pen to operate, is only behind the screen. You can use the pen button and draw a gesture commands. Drawing an up arrow is menu and a back arrow like a less than sign is back.
MunkinDrunky said:
The circuit that generates the magnetic field which allows the s pen to operate, is only behind the screen. You can use the pen button and draw a gesture commands. Drawing an up arrow is menu and a back arrow like a less than sign is back.
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OK
So it's a physical impossibility.
In that case, i think "GMD Spen Control" is the best way to simulate "menu button" and "return button" for me, because without this app i can't do anything
Many thanks for quick reply and explanation
claude974 said:
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So it's a physical impossibility.
In that case, i think "GMD Spen Control" is the best way to simulate "menu button" and "return button" for me, because without this app i can't do anything
Many thanks for quick reply and explanation
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Yup for us impossible. The note 3's digitizer does extend to the menu and back keys so it will work.
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This isn't a too much of a big deal, but curiosity kills me. Since the SGS 2 looks like it lacks a dedicated search button, I wonder if it has a substitute?
What I appreciated on my Nexus One is the search button which is excellent to Google something on the fly and to activate Voice Search. So I'm just wondering if the SGS 2 will have something to generate a quick search or if the U.S. variants will have search buttons?
like the first galaxy S i9000 , you will be able to long press the menu button to simulate the search button
And for the voice search double pressing the home button will do the trick as seen on the vids floating the web
Search seems like the biggest waste of.a button ever. Never missed it on the i9000 at all.
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touness69 said:
like the first galaxy S i9000 , you will be able to long press the menu button to simulate the search button
And for the voice search double pressing the home button will do the trick as seen on the vids floating the web
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I never used my search-button as it is now, but if the menu-button long-press is assigned to search, how do you switch on and off the on-screen keyboard?
On other android-devices a long-press of the menu-button will activate/deactivate the on-screen keyboard.
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I never used my search-button as it is now, but if the menu-button long-press is assigned to search, how do you switch on and off the on-screen keyboard?
On other android-devices a long-press of the menu-button will activate/deactivate the on-screen keyboard.
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I have a Hero, never ever have I had to long press the menu button to get the keyboard up/down. It comes up when it's needed, it disappears with a press of the "hide keyboard" button or the back button!
Ayrlupine said:
I have a Hero, never ever have I had to long press the menu button to get the keyboard up/down. It comes up when it's needed, it disappears with a press of the "hide keyboard" button or the back button!
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The hide keyboard button is only on HTCs Sense keyboard no? It's certainly not there on the stock android keyboard.
I've had instances where the keyboard blocked part of the screen and if I had pressed the back button the program would've closed/gone to a previous screen and I wouldn't have been able to do what I wanted without pulling down the keyboard with a long press of the menu-button.
It might not be a big problem or something that occurs often, but it can be annoying and that's why I ask.
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I never used my search-button as it is now, but if the menu-button long-press is assigned to search, how do you switch on and off the on-screen keyboard?
On other android-devices a long-press of the menu-button will activate/deactivate the on-screen keyboard.
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You just hit the "Back" button to hide the keyboard
As he just explained, in certain programs (very few) pressing the "back" button to switch off the on-screen keyboard can quit the progrmam you are actually using. But samsung made a very neat trick for that since the first version of the Galaxy S i9000, just swipe down from the upper part of the keyboard to the bottom and the keyboard will disappear, no need for a specific button. I find it very intuitive personnaly, and in the same situation you can also swipe left or right in the keyboard area to switch from letters to numbers view back and forth.
That is an excellent feature. Do any other phones do this?
I don t know any other phone that do so natively, but there is some third party keyboards that copied that (just like CyanogenMod and everyone else copied the wifi, bluetooth etc toggles in the notification bar) "smart keyboard" or "better keyboard" I think.
Meh, I love the design but I love my search button; using Vlingo, I can hold the button and tell my phone to do whatever I want, much better than tgr default Google voice command app.
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That's no big deal, you can easily fix it with a third party app.
And btw it's a matter of time for Android 2.4 Ice cream to come.. and there are rumors that it won't need buttons at all...
d3sm0nd said:
That's no big deal, you can easily fix it with a third party app.
And btw it's a matter of time for Android 2.4 Ice cream to come.. and there are rumors that it won't need buttons at all...
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Doubtful... Why would I want screen real estate taken up with buttons? It works on a tablet, It would be nonsensical on a phone.
samsung hasn't actually officially confirmed if there will be a 2.4 update...
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I don t know any other phone that do so natively, but there is some third party keyboards that copied that (just like CyanogenMod and everyone else copied the wifi, bluetooth etc toggles in the notification bar) "smart keyboard" or "better keyboard" I think.
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They haven't confirmed that the SGS will get Gingerbread either yet I'm running XXJVK which is Android 2.3.3.
Hi guys,
Does anybody knows where is the menu button in ICS... it looks it has 3 button, back, home and multitask...
I hope that the menu won't be in each app becasude that will mean no old app until huge upgrade...
They said the buttons change as you need then I'm sure a menu button will pop up if needed.
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odst0016 said:
They said the buttons change as you need then I'm sure a menu button will pop up if needed.
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Yes but I saw all the videos and sometimes 3 dots appear next to the multitask button but is not clear if that is the menu button or what it does. I think they should have left multitask to the longpress home and give us a menu button always there... It will be a pain in the ass for older apps and for cooking. For now this is a fail as for the absence of smart dialing
my questions is this -> will it be able to remove the on screen buttons and use the hardware ones for older phones?
I had the ask loaded and built am ICS emulator, I'll test on one of my apps this morning and report back.
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I would hope so...that would take up some much needed screen real estate on a smaller screen.
Just tried in the emulator and I had no buttons, I will have to look into updating my app for ICS.
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So my fears are real... no menu button for third party apps... that is so wrong
Right, a have to update the apps to show the buttons.
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So my fears are real... no menu button for third party apps... that is so wrong
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Nonono, the way it works (based on my understanding and playing with the 4.0 emulator) is this:
On a device with no hardware buttons (Galaxy Nexus):
Menu button shows up if the app has a menu (makes sense)
On a device with hardware buttons (most devices):
Soft keys don't show up, multitasking comes up by long-pressing home button (confirmed in emulator)
That's how it works I believe
The soft-keys don't show up in the emulator because it's emulating a device with hardware keys
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The one big UI change you could make to your apps to really take advantage of 4.0 is adding an Action Bar to your app (they demonstrated this in the Gmail app I believe).
No action would be needed to support regular menus though
What about the search button? I always use it. sigh.
And I'm guessing on older phones, they can access the multitask menu by holding down home?
Question - I installed the ICS SDK and was trying to tinker with it to make the soft buttons appear, but it's not happening. What settings do you use for an instance of the emulator to force the soft buttons to exist?
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Just tried in the emulator and I had no buttons, I will have to look into updating my app for ICS.
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How'd you get the emulator to show the soft buttons?
I have not figured out how to get the soft buttons to appear, the emulator still shows the hard buttons from previous versions.
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Yes but I saw all the videos and sometimes 3 dots appear next to the multitask button but is not clear if that is the menu button or what it does. I think they should have left multitask to the longpress home and give us a menu button always there... It will be a pain in the ass for older apps and for cooking. For now this is a fail as for the absence of smart dialing
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How? if older apps have Menu button functionality, the Menu button will appear. Not really that hard to understand.
they should do away with the menu button. i've personally found the best apps don't utilize it or utilize it very little. the more you have to dig into menus and settings the worse it is for user experience. if i recall, the new native google apps have the equivalent menu function in the top right corner. iOS apps essentially have the settings button in the same spot too. if ICS is all about UI and user experience, we need to see some consistency. for non-native android users, the menu button is not intuitive.
long press
does the soft keys have long press ?? if yes may be long press on multi task button gives u menus
Hey guys,
I guess this question is answered with this video ...
dipito31 said:
Hey guys,
I guess this question is answered with this video ...
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And what video might that be?
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substance12 said:
they should do away with the menu button. i've personally found the best apps don't utilize it or utilize it very little. the more you have to dig into menus and settings the worse it is for user experience. if i recall, the new native google apps have the equivalent menu function in the top right corner. iOS apps essentially have the settings button in the same spot too. if ICS is all about UI and user experience, we need to see some consistency. for non-native android users, the menu button is not intuitive.
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Why should they do away with the menu button? Who cares if it's not intuitive for non-native Android users? Why take the menu button and all of the options that come with it away from the people who are smart enough to use it because some people aren't smart enough to use it? The people who don't know it's there wouldn't know any difference in the first place if it was done away with. The rest of us would.
Has anyone figured anything else out about this now that there are videos everywhere? I still haven't seen any evidence that the menu button exists. Google added the menu button to all of their apps, are all the other apps left out?
AT&T Galaxy Note Tips,Tricks, and Tweaks
Overview
I decided that I would make a simple tweak thread for our AT&T Galaxy Note so they're easy to find and all in one place to reduce clutter. I will post simple tweaks that I find that may be useful to other users. I encourage everyone to also help the development of this thread and to post any tweaks they know of or find. I will update the OP as these new tweaks come in, I will post them as links with descriptions. Also I will organize and shorten/ simplify descriptions as needed.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for anything that may happen to your device when using any of these tweaks nor is anyone that has posted them we did not force you to perform them on your device, the only person responsible is You.
Credits: Will go here for the finder/ creator of tweak.
First credit to SysAdmNj for giving me the idea to create this thread.
Thank you Irishwake83 for Screenshot methods and quick changing of brightness also for ideas to expand thread.
And don't forget the thanks button for the discoverer/ creator of the tweaks you use. I only want thanked for thing I post or if you're thanking me for the organization of the information. I want credit, where credit is due.
My Contributions: Soft Button Remapping
I am open to ideas to make this thread better. Please PM me with any you may have.
Tweaks
Soft Button Remapping
This is the first tweak that I see many people complaining about the soft button search key should be swapped for the Menu key so it would be easier to press. This is a very simple and safe tweak. First you'll need root and rootexplorer application. Next open rootexplorer and go to /system/usr/keylayout/sec_touchkey.kl. Before long pressing the file in the top make sure you have it set to read write. Then long press the file and go to open in text editor. Then simply replace the word "search" with any of the others. Mix and match all you want. Then save and reboot. Done you have now remapped your touch keys.
Tricks/Tips
3 methods to take a screen shot
1) Take out the S-pen, then push the S-Pen button and hold the S-pen on the screen. This will also pull the image up into an editor.
2) Using the pinky side of your hand start at either edge of your screen and slide your hand across the screen. This works either direction.
3) Hold down the Home and Power Button then release them.
Quickly Change Brightness
Simply place any finger or your thumb on the task bar and slide left to decrease brightness, right to increase.
Quick Access to recent apps and Task Manager
Hold down the home button and it will pull up in an overlay.
S-Memo Lite
Can be accessed by Holding the S-Pen Button and Double Tapping the screen rapidly. It will then pull up no matter where you are in the OS. Then a cool function while in S-Memo Lite is putting the S-Pen above S-Memo Lite hides it allowing you to see what is on the screen.
S-Pen and soft keys
By now many of you have found out that you cannot use the pen on the soft keys such as Home, Back, and Menu. But with the S-Pen Button you can use these functions. While Holding the button simply swiping up along the screen is the menu function, swiping down is the Home function, and Finally swiping right to left is the Back Function.
S-Pen writing off of actual position
When drawing/ writing in some positions the S-Pen will write above the actual pens position this is fixed by holding the S-Pen back at an angle to the Bottom Right corner and for the left handed the bottom Left. It takes some getting used to for some depending on how you write/ draw but does solve the issue.
And one more...
sweet
Is it possible to create an action for the long press of menu or back button?
I was considering a similar thread, but we need to consolidate all the things that people keep repeatedly asking or projecting as new information like the 3 different ways to take screen captures, the quick way to dim the screen.... This might be a good thread for all of that.
BigBison420 said:
sweet
Is it possible to create an action for the long press of menu or back button?
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I'm not sure I'll have to look into it tonight I'll update if I find a way.
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I was considering a similar thread, but we need to consolidate all the things that people keep repeatedly asking or projecting as new information like the 3 different ways to take screen captures, the quick way to dim the screen.... This might be a good thread for all of that.
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Awesome Idea thank you! I added it in. I would love the help to hopefully get this stickied and become a big help to users.
Holding the home button for me brings up the most recent apps and task manager.
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Dear Developers,
I got a quick question:
is it possible to change the function of the menu button to the muti tasking function instead?
if so is it possible to be a APK file format and installation for it to work on a stock phone?
if no, then i guess it has to be rooted? if thats the case, does that mean most applications will lose the menu button? cant be the same as the Nexus phone where all applications has a on screen menu button?
OR just do a swap between the two functions? holding down the home key gives the menu function whereas the menu function gives the muti tasking function.
thanks in advance,
Best Regards,
E
It's possible, but I don't know how the menu button will show up then, and having that ugly HTC-esque navbar with one button is not the way it should be...
sorry, it i just me or anyone else finds the menu button pretty useless.
holding down the home button to bring the multi tasking up is too slow in my opinion.
would be great if someone can just switch the two functions of menu and multi.
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thanks tho
LitoNi said:
sorry, it i just me or anyone else finds the menu button pretty useless.
holding down the home button to bring the multi tasking up is too slow in my opinion.
would be great if someone can just switch the two functions of menu and multi.
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thanks tho
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I dont find is useless.
What i find useless is you can get the same menu just by pressing on your homescreens or longpress there, so 3 ways to get that menu up.
On the matter on what button brings up the task manager, i really dont care. After a few days i got used to it being behind the home button.
I didn't have this phone for very long before rooting and unlocking it, but I thought the S-Pen worked with the capacitative back and menu buttons when I first got the phone.
The S-Pen doesn't work with the capacitative buttons today. So am I remembering wrong, or does the S-Pen not work with the capacitative buttons?
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I didn't have this phone for very long before rooting and unlocking it, but I thought the S-Pen worked with the capacitative back and menu buttons when I first got the phone.
The S-Pen doesn't work with the capacitative buttons today. So am I remembering wrong, or does the S-Pen not work with the capacitative buttons?
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I'm still fully stock and it doesn't work on the buttons.
The s pen doesn't work with the capacitive buttons. There are gestures you can use to activate them, though. If you hold the button and draw an upwards arrow ^ it will bring up the menu. If you hold the button and draw a left facing arrow < it will go back.
imnuts said:
I'm still fully stock and it doesn't work on the buttons.
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The s pen doesn't work with the capacitive buttons. There are gestures you can use to activate them, though. If you hold the button and draw an upwards arrow ^ it will bring up the menu. If you hold the button and draw a left facing arrow < it will go back.
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Good deal. I thought I was going crazy for a minute. Thanks for the quick replies!