Help with root? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

Soo im new with this rooting stuff and my friend was telling me that I need to "install a recovery" with clockwordmod. Im trying to get 4.4 on my phone. can someone explain this to me without sounding to confusing? I am rooted, i have rom manager and super user. But thats as far as I've gotten. Any help would be great, thanks!!
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You got SU permission? Download the CAM loki zip that's is in another forum here. Instructions are there for ya. Super simple and easy as long as you have root permission
unless you on another bootloader than MDK. Only MDK can install recoveries. All others use safestrap
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NicoleS4 said:
Soo im new with this rooting stuff and my friend was telling me that I need to "install a recovery" with clockwordmod. Im trying to get 4.4 on my phone. can someone explain this to me without sounding to confusing? I am rooted, i have rom manager and super user. But thats as far as I've gotten. Any help would be great, thanks!!
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I suggest you do some serious reading here in XDA and there are a number of youtube videos also. Unless you have a S4 that came with MDK base, you can not load any custom recovery out there like phiz or twrp or Cwm and you limited to safestrap and the roms that are specifically compatible with safestrap. Good luck to you.

Yes I definitely agree with reading a lot.... borderline till your eyes bleed. Lol
Joking aside I've been working with android development for a few years now and the s4 can be difficult to understand for someone new to it.
If your on a build that allows you install a recovery then your in luck (mdk). However if you're like the rest of us on a locked bootloader then you need to use the safe strap process.
It's not hard just need to do your research.
Good luck
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Thats me
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Ok, so your on mj7 which means you need to get root if you don't already have it, install safe strap 3.7 and then load a custom rom to one of its rom slots.
I would read the safe strap thread to get more info before you jump into it.
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NicoleS4 said:
Thats me
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Verizon Galaxy S4
SafeStrap 3.71
Hyperdrive 12

So it is possible!!? Im gonna look into safe strap now!!
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NicoleS4 said:
So it is possible!!? Im gonna look into safe strap now!!
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You can flash some custom ROMs, but no custom recovery, no CM (until someone ports it to the Touchwiz kernel), and no AOSP (ditto).
For rooting, go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Read the Safestrap thread in that forum for more info on what you can do to boot custom ROMs.

My phone is already rooted, but I'll read over the thread for more info!!
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Related

New to the GS4

So im coming from the HTC DNA, just got my S4 today. Rooted and unlocked already. Is there a process to achieve s-off on galaxy devices like htc devices, or is it not needed for flashing radios, splash screens, etc...?
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Verizon has it locked down if you're on ME7. No workaround yet.
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howetechnical said:
Verizon has it locked down if you're on ME7. No workaround yet.
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Interesting. He said he was already rooted & "unlocked". I guess that means he has MDK & has Lokied. So first he needs to be cautioned to not take the ME7 update. As for S-off, would a custom rom /kernel not take care of it?
Edit : if he can install custom recovery & is rooted it should already be taken care of.
If you truly have a locked down ME7 the only current option is developer Hashcode's safestrap method to flash roms.
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What happened to the ME7 root awards?

Does this mean that it is safe to update to me7 and then root per the instructions?
When I look at the software update choice on the phone it says that settings failed??
pego99 said:
Does this mean that it is safe to update to me7 and then root per the instructions?
When I look at the software update choice on the phone it says that settings failed??
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Not only, NO! But HELL NO! If you're on MDK do not take update to ME7. You can, however, flash roms based upon ME7 - - like Hyperdrive.
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wtherrell said:
Not only, NO! But HELL NO! If you're on MDK do not take update to ME7. You can, however, flash roms based upon ME7 - - like Hyperdrive.
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I did and the root worked. Why was this a bad idea? I want to be able to move apps to the external SD card.
pego99 said:
I did and the root worked. Why was this a bad idea? I want to be able to move apps to the external SD card.
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Because ME7 has a locked bootloader
Luke
pego99 said:
I did and the root worked. Why was this a bad idea? I want to be able to move apps to the external SD card.
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Now, you cannot flash a custom recovery nor custom roms. I hope you gain much by moving perhaps a gig of apps to your SD card - - you have paid a very high price to do so. Now your only option for custom roms is safestrap. I wish you the best of luck.
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I will not be running other Roms. Just would like a nandroid backup. Is safestrap safe for this?
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Look at the general questions area.... I think somebody talks about ss and nandroid... they said that it can backup roms, but not stock.
This sounds plausible because HashCode, the SS Dev, said that he bas to work more on SS before you can do anything with stock rom... even backup
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lukesdiesel said:
Because ME7 has a locked bootloader
Luke
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Wrong, VZW never had an unlocked bootloader...both MDK and ME7 are locked.
Why are so many people misinformed?
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richii0207 said:
Wrong, VZW never had an unlocked bootloader...both MDK and ME7 are locked.
Why are so many people misinformed?
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Because people think as long as they can flash ROMs, it's unlocked. You and I know it's only a workaround, but most users don't.
I'd much rather have to use Loki than SS, as cool as SS sounds.
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Safest way to root S4 MDK build running 4.2.2?

Im asking if there's any fool proof ways to root this configuration because i just bought the phone and dont wont to brick it like my s3 hard bricked. Any help or comments appreciated, thinking about just updating to 4.3 and waiting for a root method with that.
Read this. Used this guide for both my gs4's with zero issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798
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Scott792 said:
Im asking if there's any fool proof ways to root this configuration because i just bought the phone and dont wont to brick it like my s3 hard bricked. Any help or comments appreciated, thinking about just updating to 4.3 and waiting for a root method with that.
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Don't update. You'll lose your ability to have a real custom recovery. Just stay on MDK and root. Then you can go ahead and flash a 4.3 ROM.
Toddricks said:
Read this. Used this guide for both my gs4's with zero issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798
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Should i factory reset and root before activating the phone with verizon?
I personally would just root, install custom recovery then wipe. After that pick a rom as most have ota updates disabled. Or install titanium backup pro and freeze the update apk's (I forget the file names)
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Toddricks said:
I personally would just root, install custom recovery then wipe. After that pick a rom as most have ota updates disabled. Or install titanium backup pro and freeze the update apk's (I forget the file names)
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Ok, is it safe to activate and root as long as i stop the OTA update?or just root and then activate? thanks for the replies by the way
Either way you do it just do not take the ota. I always root first and install custom recovery
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[Q] how do i update to latest update from rooted me7?

I'm a long time lurker and I use the search function for everything. Can't seem to find what I need.
I have a rooted me7 with safe strap..
I'd like to know what proper steps to take to got to mj7,which I believe is the last update.
Any information is much appreciated thank you.
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dsmendiola said:
I'm a long time lurker and I use the search function for everything. Can't seem to find what I need.
I have a rooted me7 with safe strap..
I'd like to know what proper steps to take to got to mj7,which I believe is the last update.
Any information is much appreciated thank you.
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Remove safestrap using the directions in the Safestrap thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441)
Then follow the "Update to VRUEMJ7 and Keep Root" thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408)
dsmendiola said:
I'm a long time lurker and I use the search function for everything. Can't seem to find what I need.
I have a rooted me7 with safe strap..
I'd like to know what proper steps to take to got to mj7,which I believe is the last update.
Any information is much appreciated thank you.
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Don't do it.
Get something that you can flash based on the newer firmware.
If you have safestrap and you like the ability, don't update to MJ7.
k1mu said:
Remove safestrap using the directions in the Safestrap thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441)
Then follow the "Update to VRUEMJ7 and Keep Root" thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408)
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Thank you! Much appreciated.
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tech_head said:
Don't do it.
Get something that you can flash based on the newer firmware.
If you have safestrap and you like the ability, don't update to MJ7.
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I did enjoy the ability, but then I started messing with xposed framework and noticed those tweaks are what I cared for. Touchwiz doesn't bother me and with the touchwiz tweaks it makes it similar to custom rom.
I do however will only go to mj7 if there is root method, which I've read there is..
Thanks for your input.
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Yea, but the root is an installer from China......
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tech_head said:
Yea, but the root is an installer from China......
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No, using that method to retain root through the OTA does not use Vroot. I used that method successfully and am on mj7 and have root.
No Chinese stuff
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# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
Mistertac said:
No, using that method to retain root through the OTA does not use Vroot. I used that method successfully and am on mj7 and have root.
No Chinese stuff
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
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You can keep root through the upgrade.
What happens if you need to flash your device??????
THen you need vRoot.
I'm just saying, I won't move to a new OTA unless there is a reliable root method.
With my luck something goes south and I need to re-root after a flash.
tech_head said:
You can keep root through the upgrade.
What happens if you need to flash your device??????
THen you need vRoot.
I'm just saying, I won't move to a new OTA unless there is a reliable root method.
With my luck something goes south and I need to re-root after a flash.
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Yes if you were on one of the previous basebands you could take the mj7 OTA and keep root. Like shown here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408
And yea.. As soon as you're on mj7 you're stuck there, no going back. If you had to flash mj7 for some reason after all that, then you would be left with the choice of using those Chinese root methods. But that guide that was already mentioned above by another poster worked prefect for me.
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ALL Knoxed Up!

On ME7 - what's the "best" I can do in terms of getting to stock Android?

A lot of development since I first browsed here awhile ago. I'm on 4.2.2 and have no idea what to do.
I think the Eclipse ROM is compatible with SS for AOSP UI. Haven't used it myself though. I think you'd have to update to 4.3 for it though. Don't quote me on that.
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What do you mean by you are on ME7.... are you on an ME7 based ROM? or are you on the official ME7 stock verizon build?
If you are rooted and not on an MDK bootloader then you will have to use safestrap and flash a safestrap safe ROM which there are a bunch now.
confusedman112 said:
A lot of development since I first browsed here awhile ago. I'm on 4.2.2 and have no idea what to do.
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Do some reading...There are stickies in general section you need to read.
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confusedman112 said:
A lot of development since I first browsed here awhile ago. I'm on 4.2.2 and have no idea what to do.
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At this point if your not on an MDK s4 and are on the me7 stock firmware I'd suggest looking into updating your phone to MK2 then root it and install SafeStrap.
There are a lot of ROM options out now for that setup. Not really anymore being made for ME7 I don't believe.
Like they said though read up 1st so you know what you're getting into. And if you do decide to go that route just Odin MK2 on your phone... Nice an easy. This of course if you're NOT on an MDK based phone running an ME7 ROM
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