Now from what I understand there is no root method for this device just as yet now my question is how different is the Sony branded Z Ultra from the GPE version besides android version. I all's know that root is needed to back up the TA partition so is there a work around for your our device.
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The GPe version doesn't have the same type of TA partition as the Xperia model AFAIK, but you still have to unlock the boot loader of the GPe to root it.
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The GPe version doesn't have the same type of TA partition as the Xperia model AFAIK, but you still have to unlock the boot loader of the GPe to root it.
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That I understand but how is the back up of the ta partition made is root is required to relock the boot loader
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You can't backup TA. You root, you lose.
Or you can downgrade (the Xperia model if that's the one you have) to 532, root it, backup TA, update to 290 and lose root, unlock the bootloader and root it again. The difference this time is that you'll have the TA backup. It's a helluva way of doing it, but it's your only option right now.
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You can't backup TA. You root, you lose.
Or you can downgrade (the Xperia model if that's the one you have) to 532, root it, backup TA, update to 290 and lose root, unlock the bootloader and root it again. The difference this time is that you'll have the TA backup. It's a helluva way of doing it, but it's your only option right now.
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Not an option for the guys that have the GPe though is it? As Lord Man said unlockit and lose it
blueether said:
Not an option for the guys that have the GPe though is it? As Lord Man said unlockit and lose it
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Nope, you can't do that with the GPe. Root it and lose it. It's as simple as that (for now).
Thanks for the info but I don't think the recovery is stable for the GPE its still testing and I'm not looking for a brick right now can afford another device right now so I'll just wait
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So I I finally rooted, backed up my TA partition, unlocked the bootloader, and flashed CWM/TWRP. Took me forever to do on windows 8, but finally figured it out.
My question is, what effect does flashing OTA updates and/or ftf's have? Will I just lose root? Or will I lose custom recovery as well? Just want to make sure since i'm sure the B.2.257 ftf will be posted shortly and I will want to flash it!
Similarly, if I were to change the CDA to get B.2.257 OTA, would I just lose root? or would I lose recovery as well?
I don't know about ota but flashing a ftf makes you recovery and root go bye bye.
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I don't know about ota but flashing a ftf makes you recovery and root go bye bye.
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Thanks for the reply. Bootloader remains unlocked correct? So just re-root and reflash?
cholepuree1 said:
Thanks for the reply. Bootloader remains unlocked correct? So just re-root and reflash?
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Yes. Only way to relock is by restoring your probably backed up TA partition.
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hello everyone
I root my c6802 with this guid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2687549
unlocked bootloader is pre-required for rooting!!
is my phone lose DRM keys and Bravia engine? i never backed up TA Partition..
pi2in3 said:
hello everyone
I root my c6802 with this guid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2687549
unlocked bootloader is pre-required for rooting!!
is my phone lose DRM keys and Bravia engine? i never backed up TA Partition..
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If you wanna root without loosing drm you need to follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904
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pi2in3 said:
hello everyone
I root my c6802 with this guid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2687549
unlocked bootloader is pre-required for rooting!!
is my phone lose DRM keys and Bravia engine? i never backed up TA Partition..
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Yes you will have lost the DRM keys, but from 4.4 on we dont need them for xreality (bravia) to work.
blueether said:
Yes you will have lost the DRM keys, but from 4.4 on we dont need them for xreality (bravia) to work.
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Do you know that for a fact ? What will we lose then?
Thanks
coolmingli said:
Do you know that for a fact ? What will we lose then?
Thanks
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I think Netflix needs the DRM keys, don't know what else does
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I think Netflix needs the DRM keys, don't know what else does
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Confirmed for Netflix. Warranty is the other consideration. I'd say it's worth doing the downgrade and backing up TA.
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Confirmed for Netflix. Warranty is the other consideration. I'd say it's worth doing the downgrade and backing up TA.
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i think i didnt lose DRM and Xreality(Bravia) , because i downgrade to 4.3 and xreality works fine...
also before downgrade i successfully backed up TA on 4.4.2 rooted frimware.
What about OTA, will you get a notification when there is an update ?
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i think i didnt lose DRM and Xreality(Bravia) , because i downgrade to 4.3 and xreality works fine...
also before downgrade i successfully backed up TA on 4.4.2 rooted frimware.
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As stated previously, on 4.4.2 unlocking bootloader doesn't affect xreality, but your ta will now be null so you have lost your drm keys.
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As stated previously, on 4.4.2 unlocking bootloader doesn't affect xreality, but your ta will now be null so you have lost your drm keys.
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ok but why it works on 4.3??
also is there any way to check TA partition is NULL or not?
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What about OTA, will you get a notification when there is an update ?
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yes when it was on 4.3 version there was a notificatation aboute 50mb to upgarade up frimware version but not to 4.4.2 ...
and now on 4.4.2 there is an update for a software,Tasks.
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yes when it was on 4.3 version there was a notificatation aboute 50mb to upgarade up frimware version but not to 4.4.2 ...
and now on 4.4.2 there is an update for a software,Tasks.
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You will probably get a notification but updates via OTA or pcc will fail with unlocked bootloader, you'll need to flash ftf's.
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the updates just perform when i relock bootloader but what aboute my TA partition?is it null? if i have xreality and can recieve and perform updates via OTA with my.
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the updates just perform when i relock bootloader but what aboute my TA partition?is it null? if i have xreality and can recieve and perform updates via OTA with my.
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Updates don't need ta, only locked bootloader. Your ta will be null as you didn't back it up before unlocking.
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Updates don't need ta, only locked bootloader. Your ta will be null as you didn't back it up before unlocking.
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Tnx for your respondes.
Hello, I want to root my XPERIA Z2 but I have never done this before, so I have some questions.
1) If I flash the Recovery used to root, will the stock ROM be affected?
2) After root, will I continue receiving the official updates? If not, how can I update it manually?
3) Can I save the stock ROM to an image for future unroot? How?
4) What do I will lose with root?
To root your Z2 you need to unlock your bootloader and flash a kernel with recovery included of which within you can flash a root zip
Kernel and system are seperate so your rom wont be affected but they do depend on eachother
Root doesent affect anything at all and neither does unlocking your bootloader, you lose nothing at all
You can backup your rom in cwm and restore later, you can also unroot from within the root management app
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Hello, I want to root my XPERIA Z2 but I have never done this before, so I have some questions.
1) If I flash the Recovery used to root, will the stock ROM be affected?
2) After root, will I continue receiving the official updates? If not, how can I update it manually?
3) Can I save the stock ROM to an image for future unroot? How?
4) What do I will lose with root?
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1.absolutely nope.
2.yes, if you haven't unlocked bootloader,
But in this case NOPE..
3.just flash ftf ...available in general section..
by flashing it will automatically unroot your device.
4.rules kept on device...[emoji6][emoji6][emoji6]
but if you unlocked bootloader.. then 1.warranty 2.official updates..3. Vulnerability security..
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RootLord said:
1.absolutely nope.
2.yes, if you haven't unlocked bootloader,
But in this case NOPE..
3.just flash ftf ...available in general section..
by flashing it will automatically unroot your device.
4.rules kept on device...[emoji6][emoji6][emoji6]
but if you unlocked bootloader.. then 1.warranty 2.official updates..3. Vulnerability security..
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Thanks, is there any way to root my Z2 without unlock the bootloader? I will not flash any custom ROM to my device, I just want to root it to allow access to SD, get better perfomance and use some apps
Envious_Data said:
To root your Z2 you need to unlock your bootloader and flash a kernel with recovery included of which within you can flash a root zip
Kernel and system are seperate so your rom wont be affected but they do depend on eachother
Root doesent affect anything at all and neither does unlocking your bootloader, you lose nothing at all
You can backup your rom in cwm and restore later, you can also unroot from within the root management app
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Thanks, where can I get everything needed to root my device?
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Does rooting screw up DRM keys or whatever like it did on other sony devices in the past?
I am REALLY thinking about this as my next device, and if I can't root without screwing up the device, I'll be put off.
TIA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2702001
Here is a link to all you need
Nothing is lost besides your warrenty
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Envious_Data said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2702001
Here is a link to all you need
Nothing is lost besides your warrenty
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I want to backup my DRM keys but it requires root, how do I root the device before unlocking bootloader?
jahmcr said:
I want to backup my DRM keys but it requires root, how do I root the device before unlocking bootloader?
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You cant with xperia Z2 at the moment
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Envious_Data said:
You cant with xperia Z2 at the moment
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but the bootloader can be unlocked officially, right? Without losing DRM keys?
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but the bootloader can be unlocked officially, right? Without losing DRM keys?
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I am not sure, I don't want to lose the Keys.
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but the bootloader can be unlocked officially, right? Without losing DRM keys?
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Think of it like this, your drm keys with Z2 are currently uselss, losing your drm keys breaks nothing, (ive tested this)
(in simple words = almost 0 drawbacks of unlocking your bootloader)
What you should be more worried about is your warrenty/garentee , it is voided when you unlock your bootloader
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Think of it like this, your drm keys with Z2 are currently uselss, losing your drm keys breaks nothing, (ive tested this)
(in simple words = almost 0 drawbacks of unlocking your bootloader)
What you should be more worried about is your warrenty/garentee , it is voided when you unlock your bootloader
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But restoring TA relocks the bootloader and the phone gets its default stock state (I saw that on a forum and some webpages)
jahmcr said:
But restoring TA relocks the bootloader and the phone gets its default stock state (I saw that on a forum and some webpages)
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Unlocking or relocking your bootloader resets your device so you cant realy win
And you cant relock on a custom kernel, it has to be totaly stock
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Envious_Data said:
Unlocking or relocking your bootloader resets your device so you cant realy win
And you cant relock on a custom kernel, it has to be totaly stock
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Ok, but is there any way to root the device without installing the custom recovery and unlocking bootloader? Is your's rooted?
Envious_Data said:
Think of it like this, your drm keys with Z2 are currently uselss, losing your drm keys breaks nothing, (ive tested this)
(in simple words = almost 0 drawbacks of unlocking your bootloader)
What you should be more worried about is your warrenty/garentee , it is voided when you unlock your bootloader
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I care more about the DRM keys, only because I assumed they added functionality that woudl be lost wtihout them, as they did in previous Sony devices.
Are you saying that, with the Z2, this is not the case and that the DRM keys don't matter at all?
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Ok, but is there any way to root the device without installing the custom recovery and unlocking bootloader? Is your's rooted?
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No way at all, and mine isnt rooted or unlocked because im sending it back for a replacement
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I care more about the DRM keys, only because I assumed they added functionality that woudl be lost wtihout them, as they did in previous Sony devices.
Are you saying that, with the Z2, this is not the case and that the DRM keys don't matter at all?
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Yes, DRM keys do nothing, doomlord has mentioned on his twitter and i have proven
Even sony has said your xperia services are still all avaliable after a bootloader unlock
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No way at all, and mine isnt rooted or unlocked because im sending it back for a replacement
Yes, DRM keys do nothing, doomlord has mentioned on his twitter and i have proven
Even sony has said your xperia services are still all avaliable after a bootloader unlock
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Thanks, then I will root my phone now, why will you send it for replacement? Whats wrong?
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jahmcr said:
Thanks, then I will root my phone now, why will you send it for replacement? Whats wrong?
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I have a defective unit with very anoying issues
-gap at the top right
Light leaking through
Big enough to fit a card
-Extreme heat
Not even gaming
Not even use camera
-vibration works on and off
Stops when it wants
-Many others
Too lazy to tell
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I have a defective unit with very anoying issues
-gap at the top right
Light leaking through
Big enough to fit a card
-Extreme heat
Not even gaming
Not even use camera
-vibration works on and off
Stops when it wants
-Many others
Too lazy to tell
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Seeing issues like is making me want to wait until Sony fixes these issues before I pick one up.
Hi,
Just wondering is it possible to restore to stock for warranty claims?
If you haven't unlock the bootloader. There is some chance.
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If you haven't unlock the bootloader. There is some chance.
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But there is no way to root without unlocking the bootloader... right?
Exactly. So if have unlocked already. There is no way to get warrenty again.
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If you didn't backup your ta partition before you unlock bootloader there's no hope
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Exactly. So if have unlocked already. There is no way to get warrenty again.
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Ah means rooting is a one way street? =/..
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If you didn't backup your ta partition before you unlock bootloader there's no hope
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I'm confused. So it is possible if I back it up?
Have you backed it up? If so there is chance. But for me it's sounds like you've rooted your phone already?
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Have you backed it up? If so there is chance. But for me it's sounds like you've rooted your phone already?
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Nope not yet. But I just did some searching it seems that there is no way to root a z2 without unlocking the bootloader. And the ta partition cannot be backedup. Which hence I will lose the warranty. Am I.. right?
For now. Yes. Maybe near future some genius will find the way rooting w/o unlock the bootloader. Wait for it if you don't want lose your warrenty. But it's worth lose it and have fun. Up to you. Think Carefully.
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There is currently no way to backup your TA partition as there is no rooting method for locked bootloaders yet.
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For now. Yes. Maybe near future some genius will find the way rooting w/o unlock the bootloader. Wait for it if you don't want lose your warrenty. But it's worth lose it and have fun. Up to you. Think Carefully.
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Guess I will wait then thanks for the verification! :laugh:
Good decision. Hope you'll get root very soon.
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Ah means rooting is a one way street? =/..
I'm confused. So it is possible if I back it up?
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Yes! To root your phone, first, you need to downgrade to rootable firmware which is jb 4.1.2, (there's so many rooting methods that works in that version) then after rooting you can backup ta partition. Search for the procedures and read carefully and follow the instructions, it's all here in xda forum
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Yes! To root your phone, first, you need to downgrade to rootable firmware which is jb 4.1.2, (there's so many rooting methods that works in that version) then after rooting you can backup ta partition. Search for the procedures and read carefully and follow the instructions, it's all here in xda forum
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Hey mate. Z2 can't be downgraded to 4.1.2 as box open firmware is kitkat ...... Aren't you confusing it with Xperia Z or something like that? It is Z2 forum.... not for other. And 4.4 is still rootable no need to downgrade. It just requires you to unlock bootloader.
Sorry! You're right. I just check out. My mistake.
Hey,
I know there are surely many threads about the bootloader but I never had a Sony so I want to now is: I don't lose any features if I unlock my bootloader right? I know I can backup the Trimm Area so I can get the DRM Keys back if I lose them. In a thread I saw that bootloader unlocking even does not erease the DRM Keys on a Z2, is this right? I just want to know if I lose features by unlocking the bootloader and if I keep the DRM Keys on a Z2.
Thanks
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Hey,
I know there are surely many threads about the bootloader but I never had a Sony so I want to now is: I don't lose any features if I unlock my bootloader right? I know I can backup the Trimm Area so I can get the DRM Keys back if I lose them. In a thread I saw that bootloader unlocking even does not erease the DRM Keys on a Z2, is this right? I just want to know if I lose features by unlocking the bootloader and if I keep the DRM Keys on a Z2.
Thanks
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Unlocking your bootloader formats the TA partition where your drm keys are kept
You can backup your TA partition and unlock your bootloader
Restore your TA on a STOCK kernel to un-void your warrenty
Restoring your TA will relock your bootloader hence only restore on a stock kernel
You can install a stock kernel by using flashtool >www.flashtool.net< to flash a FTF> there is a thread at the top of the general section
So if I unlock my z2 bootloader I won't lose any feature like X-reality or break the camera Like Z1?
Thx
Bumblecito said:
So if I unlock my z2 bootloader I won't lose any feature like X-reality or break the camera Like Z1?
Thx
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Sony Mobile has said no Xperia Service will be lost at all
X-Reality has never worked for me from the day i got this unit but everything else has persisted to continue working
What about OTA Updates? Or App Updates?
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Well I'll give it a try and comment later. Thanks
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What about OTA Updates? Or App Updates?
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They only stop with a modded firmware, if your on stock totaly unmodified then you can get updates
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Well I'll give it a try and comment later. Thanks
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Bootloader unlocking wipes your device
Backup first
Thank you for your help that helped a lot!
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