Stock + Xposed vs Custom ROMs - G2 General

Just wanted to get everyone's option on this. I'm currently stock with gravity box and g2 settings plus other random xposed modules, and I'm quite happy. Are there any benefits to the custom ROMs?
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I feel like custom roms are needed for the heavy theming. Coming from Samsung devices for my last three phones I don't feel like I need a custom rom with my G2 BC of Xposed and G2 settings. I can debloat all I want with TiBu. I'm looking forward to the new kernels for possibly even better battery life.
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After using various roms the last couple years on several devices to gain features and to keep device up to date, I think keeping stock and using xposed on the g2 is the best solution. Nearly all the benefits of a custom rom, but with all the stability of stock.
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I couldnt help myself and flashed paranoid android on my phone today. This thing is just blazing fast and I am spoiled once again and won't be visiting stock anytime soon unless battery is that horrible.
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I am a custom ROM addict but when I got the LG G2 all changed for me. Suddenly my urge to change ROMS has ended thanks to the great G2 experience combined with x-posed framework.
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Rayan said:
I am a custom ROM addict but when I got the LG G2 all changed for me. Suddenly my urge to change ROMS has ended thanks to the great G2 experience combined with x-posed framework.
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I'm in the same boat. I'm having flash withdrawals. After enabling themes on my AT&T phone, I'm loving this thing. I've read even some of the Stock ROM variants on here have echoing issues and other problems. I want to flash so badly but for the first time I don't think I will
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But what about app compatibility?
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I couldnt help myself and flashed paranoid android on my phone today. This thing is just blazing fast and I am spoiled once again and won't be visiting stock anytime soon unless battery is that horrible.
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How's the app compatibility? I have read over xda that many apps don't work on g2 aosp.
Games like temple run, Nfs etc.?

Markyzz said:
Just wanted to get everyone's option on this. I'm currently stock with gravity box and g2 settings plus other random xposed modules, and I'm quite happy. Are there any benefits to the custom ROMs?
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My friend THIS is my biggest issue currently!
I'm gonna be THOROUGH so BEWARE
I come from many phones history (see signature) where I always flashed PA or CM especially on touchwiz phones.
However on the G2, I liked stock at first and kept using it for around 2 months.
Then, having ORD decease ( see signature again) I kept my eye on PA and tried it on Christmas vacation. It caused me such a big confusion to the extent where I went between stock and PA like 5 times confused on which is BETTER and which I LIKE most.
Currently I returned 2 days ago to stock but still thinking about PA...
Yes stock is nice with all features and stability, but I just HATE the nonconformity in design (even when using Xposed heavily to stabilize things and theme others).
-Also PA gave me such a smooth experience (much faster) with a lot more RAM and great simple looks. About RAM I greenified most system and installed apps that hogs RAM and still barely have about 500mb of free RAM while I have around 900mb on AOSP roms without any greenifying.
-Most importantly I had crazy battery life on PA while it's lower on stock even when nearly disabling every feature (except knock on of course).
-The thing that made me return to stock, believe it or not, was mainly camera (I know there's a mod for stock camera on AOSP but it's not that functional) and non-intrusive call notification which is a life saver when playing games. I tried "call heads", "call popout" from playstore but none worked nicely all the time.
Even when Omni gives that feature, I cannot install Halo (via Xhalo xposed module) on this ROM bcz it conflicts heavily with multiwindow feature in their rom which I cannot care less about it.
-I hate stock lockscreen and I love AOSP lockscreen.
-I hate AOSP camera and I like stock camera.
-I love AOSP calendar which options of colouring the events but hate its lack of features. I love stock calendar and its widget and snooze option while I hate its lack of colouring events feature.
-Although stock launcher is great it keeps redrawing (reloading) when quitting apps (heavy ones) which is annoying. AOSP laucher doesn't but lack features.
-Sound quality TILL NOW is better on stock.
-Immersive mode and the ability to always see notification bar even when in heavy games is awesome on AOSP.
-Quick memo is awesome for screenshots and editing on the run and sharing. I still couldn't find an app that does all that, that simple and quick on AOSP.
-Call voice recorder (G2 tweakbox) gives amazing sound and recording quality while call recorders on AOSP suck.
-NO FM radio on AOSP till now (maybe spirit fm will change that eventually).
Although most times I think that I don't need all those "useless" features on stock and that I need the quickness, smoothness of AOSP. I end up thinking that I did not pay 650$ (yes in my country) for a 32GB G2 to dump all those and run AOSP on it. If so, it would have been smarter ( and cheaper) if I kept my nexus 4 (or get a cheaper nexus 5 rather a G2). However I really like the feel and looks of AOSP. However :silly: it's those small/silly/gimmick/nice cool features that stock ROM gives you that make you feel that you own a SMARTphone and not any simple phone. It's the fact that you know that they are THERE when you need them that makes you feel satisfied even when you really rarely use them.
As you can see, it's a REALLY very TOUGH decision which always makes me feel confused. One day I wanna use AOSP, the other stock.
I really hate that phone for that. On samsung phones I really didn't give a thought about it.
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Rayan said:
I am a custom ROM addict but when I got the LG G2 all changed for me. Suddenly my urge to change ROMS has ended thanks to the great G2 experience combined with x-posed framework.
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This. After using this stock I started to love the stock features and what not. Now I think AOSP is just a little too plain for me. G2 Xposed and Xposed framework really took the cake. I got my phone almost perfectly the way I want.
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Thanks @Life Engineer for the insightful description.
I say and I mean it, because I feel exactly the same: stock and AOSP ROMs both have ups and downs, making it a very hard to choose.
At the time being I'm trying - as you are - to keep stock and enhance it with Xposed modules, with a good success so far.
The thing that I miss most from AOSP is the clean UI of statusbar icons and settings pages; nothing so crucial, but it would be nice to have a "stock android" theme to choose from.
Thanks to OP for opening this interesting thread.

Markyzz said:
Just wanted to get everyone's option on this. I'm currently stock with gravity box and g2 settings plus other random xposed modules, and I'm quite happy. Are there any benefits to the custom ROMs?
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Maybe could be nice to add a Poll .
Anyway I am stock + xposed ... . Long time CM, PA user, but am getting maybe old and wanna use my phone instead of tinkering too much with custom, should maybe xplain am not much of a CM stable release guy, always Nightly

For the 1st time ever since owning my 1st android phone (first one was the HTC Evo4G) I've loved a (tweaked) stock ROM much more than any custom ROM. After I started messing around with the features on the stock ROM, AND installed xposed tweaks...I just dont see how anyone could want to load a custom ROM on this phone. Especially since custom ROMs are still experiencing bugs and random issues. On the stock ROM everything works, perfectly...incredible battery, I average over 7hrs of screen time which is just unreal IMO. The ONLY thing I liked more about AOSP ROMs than the stock ROM is the quick settings tiles. That's honesty IT...in every othe way stock>>>>>AOSP.

I use a custom rom, but based on stock. I've used AOSP roms and they're all good, but stock just seems to have a few more feature that make it better for me. Plus, I find battery is always better on a stock based rom.
I do flash custom roms based on stock, though, and am currently running a Flex rom. Sometimes you get bugs or weird graphic issues (black text on grey background) but the Flex roms seem to run smoother than the regular stock rom. Maybe LG did some fine tuning to their software to keep it smoother on the Flex?

Stock plus xposed. It's hard not to use it this way. There is no customization I don't have that I want, plus the stability of stock. Phone feels perfect to me this way.
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Markyzz said:
Just wanted to get everyone's option on this. I'm currently stock with gravity box and g2 settings plus other random xposed modules, and I'm quite happy. Are there any benefits to the custom ROMs?
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Please create a poll just including those 4 choices:
-Stock
-Stock + Xposed
-Custom Rom based on stock
-Custom Rom based on AOSP
I can imagine 20, 40, 30, 10% respectively.

Life Engineer said:
Please create a poll just including those 4 choices:
-Stock
-Stock + Xposed
-Custom Rom based on stock
-Custom Rom based on AOSP
I can imagine 20, 40, 30, 10% respectively.
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done! great idea! ive been on xda for a few years but this is my first poll!

Ive Seen a few of you on this thread say stock has better battery. How come in my case on pa it is the other way around ??
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shadehh said:
Ive Seen a few of you on this thread say stock has better battery. How come in my case on pa it is the other way around ??
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Thats decent and all...but on stock ROM I easily get over 7hrs of screen time, on average. Thats with pretty decent usage like web surfing, a lil bit of game play, and watching videos. A couple times I've come really close to 9hrs of screen time. I just dont see anyway how an AOSP ROM could beat that. Especially since I dont think I've ever got better battery life on any AOSP ROM, with any phone I've ever had.

decent? I find it quite good. Honestly I always find it quite questionable what people do when they say they reach 7-9hours of screen time. Just like a few nexus 4users (as always, a minority) reported getting 5-7 screen on time. To me something about that is fabricated. And if you are just using your phone as a form of eBook then it to me also explains why the sot is so high.
For the most part I don't really even take wireless man into consideration because then it would be quite realistic for me to get 7-9 hours of sot as well. It is just a bit strange because when I use my phone and compare results I'm usually nearly exclusively trying 3g because I intend to use it as a mobile phone and as such try to get the most realistic statistics play possible. Maybe this is a rant I don't know. Haha
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How's the app compatibility? I have read over xda that many apps don't work on g2 aosp.
Games like temple run, Nfs etc.?
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It's mediocre, a lot of games don't work and the list keeps growing. I ask devs if they can look into it and get no reply. So to me it seems like they don't care, so I don't care to use aosp. I stick to stock w/ xposed and its beast.
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Aosp Vs TouchWiz

First off I just need to know the difference of the 2 I've flashed roms for several years now but I've really ever had this ? Answered for me we all known touchwiz roms are much bigger than Aosp roms so is the space that's not being used by Aosp roms is it available to the user Like almost 600mb that's not being used by this rom ?
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Basically it doesnt have the touchwiz skin at all. Its plain android. It also means no s-pen support (its implemented now in the official nightlies however rudementary).
As far as the usuable space, thats a good question. It may not necessarily use it but I dont think its available to the user.
At one point AOSP was about speed and fluidity (albeit still that way) but with the power of this phone its pretty fluid on Touchwiz or AOSP.
For me its always boiled down to whether or not ill be using the pen. I dont use it often, I flash to AOSP and find myself missing features of touchwiz and flashing back. My best suggestion is to go through that exercise and make the decision for yourself.
Yeah beans 17 gives you just the look of Aosp but the Guts of Touchwiz it would be nice to have a Rom that had the mixture of the 2
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My concern is the camera app. Samsung does an awesome job with the camera software. I've always heard, and also confirmed this during my brief fling with the Galaxy Nexus. How are photos on the N2 using the AOSP software?
Beans is a good mixture and hes an awesome dev to boot. He listens to users and includes features they want to see.
The camera app in AOSP quite frankly is s**t. Its finicky, doesnt like low light conditions and is prone to force closing (no fault to the devs as they have been given zero information to build from, its incredible theyve even gotten it to where it is). I dont use my camera alot so I forgot about that.
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Basically it doesnt have the touchwiz skin at all. Its plain android. It also means no s-pen support (its implemented now in the official nightlies however rudementary).
As far as the usuable space, thats a good question. It may not necessarily use it but I dont think its available to the user.
At one point AOSP was about speed and fluidity (albeit still that way) but with the power of this phone its pretty fluid on Touchwiz or AOSP.
For me its always boiled down to whether or not ill be using the pen. I dont use it often, I flash to AOSP and find myself missing features of touchwiz and flashing back. My best suggestion is to go through that exercise and make the decision for yourself.
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While there is very little S-pen support in AOSP roms people can always get GMD Spen Control from the Play Store and that will give them a lot of the S-pen functionality back.
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AOSP: pure, straight, unmolested raw Google code. What goes on a Nexus.
TW: Samsung's proprietary skin/software that they build on top of stock android. Hence the size difference. Sense is HTC's version.
Littleguevara is spot on about the camera. That's why I stick with TW. And my battery, GPS and overall stability is better. Now if I had a Nexus 4....
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4.4 KitKat officially confirmed!

The 4.4 update has been confirmed by Morten Aagaard, manager for LG Denmark at a summit in Copenhagen!
Source (in Danish). Translation goes as follows:
"We're bringing an update plan for LG G2 for Android 4.4 KitKat by the end of the year or the start of the next year. But of course there will be an update for G2"
This is great news, guys! That French carrier "report" (which was slightly shady at best) was actually telling the truth!
How does that make you guys feel?
Did we ever doubt that it would get kitkat? We dont need confirmation to know this
And in my opinion the date doesnt matter unless its like supersoon to be excited about or superlate to be dissapointed, but this was expected.
infexis said:
Did we ever doubt that it would get kitkat? We dont need confirmation to know this
And in my opinion the date doesnt matter unless its like supersoon to be excited about or superlate to be dissapointed, but this was expected.
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Yes, I actually did. LG, you know
Thanks for the effort. Was kind is obvious it's cuming though.
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Kitkat or not, the real update is getting the UI improved.
I look forward to updates
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Kitkat or not, the real update is getting the UI improved.
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I absolutely love what LG has done with Android. It's fast, customizable, beautiful and very, very stable. Not a single crash, and I've been using the phone a lot for six days now. However, transparency for 3rd party launchers and ability to hide the navigation bar would be cool. Otherwise I have no complaints. Best non-AOSP experience for me.
LG has impressed me so far, with the only problem being some of the performance problems (probably due to LG choosing a conservative scheduler and the aggressive throttling). This is with no doubt the best phone I've had. Samsung can go into a corner and adore their blue-screen-tech.
Nice nice, looking forward to it!
Well it's not very common for mfg's to skip an android iteration entirely. They usually roll them out incrementally. So yes, color me surprised they are jumping 4.3 and going straight to 4.4.
However, we should probably have some 4.4 lovin' before that in the form of some aosp rom.
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actually i think we really do need an update, but it doesn't have to be 4.4 or whatever. we just need some issues to be fixed or removed in some places like low camera performance at low light in the camera, some stutterings and lags which are preventing the smoothness of the UI and etc. Unless lg get these done, i don't even care if they give android 5 or 6.
I come from TouchWiz so I don't understand what's all the gripe about. Samsung enabled notification bar toggle removal with 4.3 (not sooner) and LG's UI allows me to tweak and add and customize pretty much everything I want.
Case in point: when I plug in my headset, I can edit the apps in the bottom mini-drawer instead of using the preset.
All I'm waiting for from 4.4 are TRIM and ART.
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I absolutely love what LG has done with Android. It's fast, customizable, beautiful and very, very stable. Not a single crash, and I've been using the phone a lot for six days now. However, transparency for 3rd party launchers and ability to hide the navigation bar would be cool. Otherwise I have no complaints. Best non-AOSP experience for me.
LG has impressed me so far, with the only problem being some of the performance problems (probably due to LG choosing a conservative scheduler and the aggressive throttling). This is with no doubt the best phone I've had. Samsung can go into a corner and adore their blue-screen-tech.
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Have you tried G2 Xposed?
A few updates before kit Kat 2016 should be nice, but great news
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lakaw said:
Have you tried G2 Xposed?
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No, I want to stay stock until I feel like I'm missing out on too many features
robogo1982 said:
I come from TouchWiz so I don't understand what's all the gripe about. Samsung enabled notification bar toggle removal with 4.3 (not sooner) and LG's UI allows me to tweak and add and customize pretty much everything I want.
Case in point: when I plug in my headset, I can edit the apps in the bottom mini-drawer instead of using the preset.
All I'm waiting for from 4.4 are TRIM and ART.
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And OpenGL ES 3.0 (from 4.3 but still new on G2)!
Contrary to popular belief, it's not all that uncommon for companies to skip updates. I had the Sony Ericsson xperia x10 which was updated straight from eclair to gingerbread, skipping froyo. It happens, and excitedly believable in this case simply because the phone was launched behind an update. I expect that lg will go through 4.3 and straight to 4.4.
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And OpenGL ES 3.0 (from 4.3 but still new on G2)!
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Cm10.2...... latest nightly has zero bugs for me. Zero.
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On cm 10.2...if u charging ur device in off mode does it will turn on mode it self ???around 5-10 minute the device turn on it self...
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[Discuss] AOSP ROMs vs G2 special features.

LG G2 has many special features integrated in the stock ROM or in the hardware. How many of them can be ported / used, or ALREADY BE USED in AOSP roms?
Here's what I am interested in, you can add more:
[*]System-integrated knock off -- double tap on status bar or double tap on desktop without any widgets
[*]Screen memory to buffer contents which improves battery life
[*]IR-remote feature
Update:
Pop up feature described in #11 and #12.
Screen memory to buffer contents may not be used in AOSP roms, as described in #13, and I have similar feeling.
#4 APT-X for bluetooth connection.
#5 & #8 confirm that IR works.
#8 also mentioned there are more ways about knock off.
Knock off can be done with gestures.
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Knock off can be done with gestures.
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Actually I'm OK with that -- I am currently using CM11 and its notification drawer quick toolbar ~
can APT-X for bluetooth connection be port?
IR blaster works on aosp too
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Knock off also Works With aosp roms, i dont see any advantages in stock rom
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Stability and guaranteed experience, this is the first rom stock rom I've felt OK with while Patiently waiting for kit kat ota
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IR Blaster works. Gummy has ported adding multiple nav keys, one of which is to turn off the screen.
You can also install the LG camera apk since the AOSP one is absolute garbage. Overall, this is one of the best close to AOSP ROMs I've run, and without Nova to boot!
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Stability and guaranteed experience, this is the first rom stock rom I've felt OK with while Patiently waiting for kit kat ota
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I second this!
I love what the devs do, but I really am worried that some of the better G2 features will get left behind because the devs don't feel they are important enough to warrant any extra effort.
Namely, the sounds hardware in the G2 is phenomenal. I have a lot of 24/96 and higher material and listen on headphones. I have seen nothing from AOSP stating that they have ported the driver from the source that Wolfson or LG provide, so...
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IR Blaster works. Gummy has ported adding multiple nav keys, one of which is to turn off the screen.
You can also install the LG camera apk since the AOSP one is absolute garbage. Overall, this is one of the best close to AOSP ROMs I've run, and without Nova to boot!
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Thanks~ Which rom are you running?
And, any info about the screen memory?
I like the pop up feature, no matter what app you're in if you get a phone call you get a little pop up instead of the whole screen turning to dialler.
Same
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I like the pop up feature, no matter what app you're in if you get a phone call you get a little pop up instead of the whole screen turning to dialler.
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This is a deal breaker for me. I just tried almost all ROM's and revert back to stock cause of this pop up feature.
I tried call pop up app from Play store but it is not handy and have some issues.
I feel like the screen buffer memory/GRAM isn't being utilised in any of the AOSP ROMS.
I say this because I've noticed that even though there is less boat taking up the battery; it is still less than what I got out of the stock ROM. And if you see the battery drained due to screen usage on a AOSP ROM, it is almost always above 50 %. On the stock LG ROM it was never above 40-45 %. As far as I know, this has reduced the screen-on time by almost 1 and a half hours.
It'd be great if a developer could chime in since I could be just talking out of my ass.
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I feel like the screen buffer memory/GRAM isn't being utilised in any of the AOSP ROMS.
I say this because I've noticed that even though there is less boat taking up the battery; it is still less than what I got out of the stock ROM. And if you see the battery drained due to screen usage on a AOSP ROM, it is almost always above 50 %. On the stock LG ROM it was never above 40-45 %. As far as I know, this has reduced the screen-on time by almost 1 and a half hours.
It'd be great if a developer could chime in since I could be just talking out of my ass.
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Actually during the days when I used Stock rom, the screen was never #1 in the battery consumption list. For about 30 hours on battery and nearly 3 hours SOT, the screen just took 20% to 30% of total battery consumption, which ranked #2 or #3 in the list; and Android System, which contains a lot of LG services, was always the No.1.
When I switched to @[vertigo] 's CM11 alpha build 2, with almost the same usage pattern, the screen started to take about 40% of total battery consumption -- always #1 in the list.
That's why I am curious about the screen buffer. My usage pattern should be the typical one that benefits from the screen buffer -- reading feeds, browsing social network via apps, chat with friends in IM apps via text -- and no gaming.

			
				
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Nice video! Glad to see that we can get the remote control app working.
Currently using unofficial CM11, and the message app is way better than stock LG's.
In the LG rom, if one wants to choose multiple receivers of text message from contacts in the message app, the popup contact list will not exclude the contacts without phone number -- the "show contacts with phone number only" option in the contact app doesn't take effect here. And same with Samsung i9500's ROM as my friend confirmed, and same with the Samsung i9000 ROM back to the Android 2.2 era!!!
BTW, which 4.4 rom are you using? CM11 or PA4.0? Does it have Google Now quick launch ring?
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Nice video! Glad to see that we ......e Google Now quick launch ring?
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PA 4.4 and yes I have the google now quick launch ring at the bottom from the nav bar.
Guys but what about gram? Is it same on aosp rom as on stock or not?
AOSP!
smooth, lower ram consumption, and fast!
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PA 4.4 and yes I have the google now quick launch ring at the bottom from the nav bar.
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Hey what camera mod were you using cause I see 3 threads?
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confessions of a flashaholic

Hi my name is Rob and I'm a flashaholic I have to admit with every new phone I get I probably flash every custom ROM made for it I'm not much for stock based roms but I got my lg g2 about a month ago and have flashed to try out just about every ROM built for it so far and I can't wait to see more kitkat ROMs
I pretty much like to flash the latest versions of android to just waiting on more kit kat ROMs
Over the past two days I've flashed 6 different ROMs but keep coming back to ose even though it's not that stable it has all the features I'm looking for
What about you
Figured I'd start a thread for fun let's hear your confessions
am afraid its a completely normal condition bought on by a very complicated organism designated lgg2 i'm afraid the prognosis is not good as the disease is very fast and progressive with episodes of high euphoria followed by intervals of extreme anxiousness- we can only hope that the research into this worrying condition will be continued
and that maybe in the distant future there may be a cure.
I myself find I've been able to avoid the flashaholism by knowing how I like my phone
I'm on pa currently awaiting cm to finish fixing the lte issues.
But I my self know I like a build of the latest cm, stripped down, debloated to it's bare minimum, with a good kernel, and a few tweaks
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I wanna flash g flex Rom but I'm afraid to **** **** up
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Hello, flashaholic here as well.
Love the g2, Flashed cm, PA rom, slimkat and others. Unfortunately I'm soft-bricked at the moment. Hoping to find a resolution.
However with that being said I love the flexibility and the customization.
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I am in the same boat. Always looking to see if my circle or ROMS have updated versions. At this point I cannot go back to stock I think I like the latest 4.4.2 performance. Stock just feels slow to me though it's been a while. Maybe ill check out the Flex..
Using PA Houstonn's 4.4.2, Beanstalk 4.4.2, PacMan 4.3 nightlies, and 4.4.2 SlimKat weeklies.
Good luck with your addiction.
Robshr said:
Hi my name is Rob and I'm a flashaholic I have to admit with every new phone I get I probably flash every custom ROM made for it I'm not much for stock based roms but I got my lg g2 about a month ago and have flashed to try out just about every ROM built for it so far and I can't wait to see more kitkat ROMs
I pretty much like to flash the latest versions of android to just waiting on more kit kat ROMs
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Figured I'd start a thread for fun let's hear your confessions
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me too, this week i flash my first stock rom, and no good, aosp is way faster, if you think in test more there is carbom rom now!
I've always been a flashaholic. This is the first phone I've been completely satisfied with just root. I couldn't care less about flashing now, and its pretty sweet not having to set my accounts up and restore backups once a day.
Yes I like this subject since it reflects my internal war
I'm gonna copy a reply I wrote due days ago on similar topic to avoid writing the whole essay :
"My friend THIS is my biggest issue currently!
I'm gonna be THOROUGH so BEWARE 
I come from many phones history (see signature) where I always flashed PA or CM especially on touchwiz phones.
However on the G2, I liked stock at first and kept using it for around 2 months.
Then, having ORD decease (  see signature again) I kept my eye on PA and tried it on Christmas vacation. It caused me such a big confusion to the extent where I went between stock and PA like 5 times confused on which is BETTER and which I LIKE most.
Currently I returned 2 days ago to stock but still thinking about PA... 
Yes stock is nice with all features and stability, but I just HATE the nonconformity in design (even when using Xposed heavily to stabilize things and theme others).
-Also PA gave me such a smooth experience (much faster) with a lot more RAM and great simple looks. About RAM I greenified most system and installed apps that hogs RAM and still barely have about 500mb of free RAM while I have around 900mb on AOSP roms without any greenifying.
-Most importantly I had crazy battery life on PA while it's lower on stock even when nearly disabling every feature (except knock on of course).
-The thing that made me return to stock, believe it or not, was mainly camera (I know there's a mod for stock camera on AOSP but it's not that functional) and non-intrusive call notification which is a life saver when playing games. I tried "call heads", "call popout" from playstore but none worked nicely all the time.
Even when Omni gives that feature, I cannot install Halo (via Xhalo xposed module) on this ROM bcz it conflicts heavily with multiwindow feature in their rom which I cannot care less about it.
-I hate stock lockscreen and I love AOSP lockscreen.
-I hate AOSP camera and I like stock camera.
-I love AOSP calendar which options of colouring the events but hate its lack of features. I love stock calendar and its widget and snooze option while I hate its lack of colouring events feature.
-Although stock launcher is great it keeps redrawing (reloading) when quitting apps (heavy ones) which is annoying. AOSP laucher doesn't but lack features.
-Sound quality TILL NOW is better on stock.
-Immersive mode and the ability to always see notification bar even when in heavy games is awesome on AOSP.
-Quick memo is awesome for screenshots and editing on the run and sharing. I still couldn't find an app that does all that, that simple and quick on AOSP.
-Call voice recorder (G2 tweakbox) gives amazing sound and recording quality while call recorders on AOSP suck.
-NO FM radio on AOSP till now (maybe spirit fm will change that eventually).
Although most times I think that I don't need all those "useless" features on stock and that I need the quickness, smoothness of AOSP. I end up thinking that I did not pay 650$ (yes in my country) for a 32GB G2 to dump all those and run AOSP on it. If so, it would have been smarter ( and cheaper) if I kept my nexus 4 (or get a cheaper nexus 5 rather a G2). However I really like the feel and looks of AOSP. However  it's those small/silly/gimmick/nice cool features that stock ROM gives you that make you feel that you own a SMARTphone and not any simple phone. It's the fact that you know that they are THERE when you need them that makes you feel satisfied even when you really rarely use them.
As you can see, it's a REALLY very TOUGH decision which always makes me feel confused. One day I wanna use AOSP, the other stock.
I really hate that phone for that.  On samsung phones I really didn't give a thought about it.
Regards,"
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damn found another rom
Well found another ROM that looks interesting downloading and flashing now beanstalk 4.4.2
Update: right now I'm torn between beanstalk and slimkat have them both on my phone and I keep switching back and fourth but I think beanstalk is winning so many customizations think in gonna stick with it for awhile
Well found my new ROM beanstalk ROM has just about everything you'll want
App Compatibility?
All those on AOSP ROMs, What about apps. I have read that most of the apps specially games don't work on AOSP on lg g2. You have that problem?

I like Sony ROM better than CM? WTF is wrong with me?

I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
brashmadcap said:
I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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No, you're, definitely, not insane and you're not alone on this! Exactly, my feelings. I've never thought that one day I'll start liking one manufacturer's skin/UI better than stock Android. But, it happened. And as a result, I've purchased the Xperia Z Ultra. Couldn't be happier more. It's the best phone I've ever owned.
I have to say/admit that I've faced more stability issues on CM more than Sony's firmwares. And for speed : Yes, it's definitely faster! IMHO, Sony's software engineers are done an excellent job for optimizing the software in the best possible way. There is zero lag, zero glitches etc. Just, very buttery smooth experience.
After the Mr. Kazuo Hirai's becoming the presiden and the CEO of Sony, many things have been changed fundamentally and noticeably. They got their innovation back as it was in 90s and 80s and one more time, started to make some unique products (QX10/QX100, first mirrorless Full-Frame camera except Leica : A7/A7r etc.) like walkman back in the day.
Hopefully, they'll keep this momentum and innovation as long as they can and we will benefit/enjoy of these great products.
Cheers,
Tarkan
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I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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No you're right, sony have done it right!
They've allowed you to keep the fluidity of stock android and have given you customization that dont slow the phone down
I couldnt be happier with my Z Ultra
It used to be that the smartphone SoC was very limited in terms of capability so a clean ROM is the better choice. But with rapid development and less bloat on Sony's UI (+cool design) and slower Android upgrade it is clearly better now. So yeah, not that much reason should i jump to CM ROM again (unlike previous RAZR MAXX of mine) for now Maybe if the Android 5.0 come out in the future i guess but for now no..
brashmadcap said:
I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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I Concur! I've had this device for about three months, & I really enjoy it also! I purchased it with the Sony UI in mind and sure enough it did not disappoint. I wasn't upset to see the Google edition released so soon after I bought this one. This is really the longest I've ever went without root also, as most prior phones did not make the 30 day mark.
I honestly would be happy with root access on the stock Sony Rom, however with all the confusion of root methods / model numbers / TA partitions / possibility of losing LTE, I'm just really trying to be patient. I kept in mind that buying such a large (under the radar phone) my slow my ability to tinker with it, but it's beginning to a bit of a hassle without root.
I recently accepted the 4.3 update, & the speed and mellow performance was noticed immediately. I was trying to stay on 4.2 as I had read different threads saying it was able to be rooted as oppose to 4.3 .290 but as of recently that seems to have changed now... This whole phone's process seems extremely confusing, and I'm tired of reading different contradicting threads .....and it's never a good idea to start playing with your phone when your frustrated & uninformed so I guess I'll just hang out a bit longer until things seem clearer....
I am with you guys.
Although on Note 2 I did not go with any AOSP except from the usual testing, but always came back to stock because of Spen features.
With the Ultra, this stock rom is so light, smooth and plus I keep the phone features plus it has been designed better to use the larger screen...I am VERY impressed with the Sony Rom so I dont see myself flashing anything but Sony based Roms.
I enjoy my phone now more than just using it to flash new stuff trying to get it to be better
Ah after I try a lot of custom ROM
monxDIFIED is my daily ROM
It is Sony base because I prefer stock app
FM Radio
Stock Camera
If I can install two stock app in CM base ROM like Carbon ROM
I may think using CM base ROM as my daily drive
That's common and you are not alone. I too am using the Stock 4.3 without any intention of flashing other ROMs (I do really love flashing as I had nearly flashed every Android phone I have ever owned)
I'm back on stock after a day on GPe. I love AOSP and the GPe ROM is amazing, but I tend to always end up back on stock again. Not sure what it is, but it's solid as a rock, and I know exactly how it works and what it does. No surprises. I feel safe using it, so I guess that's why? Xposed has also changed the way I use ROMs. No longer do I have to flash ROMs if I want a weird feature, I just install a module. I feel like I don't have to flash anything these days, except for when I want a different environment/UI.
In not that tired of Sony's UI quite yet (but I'm slowly getting there), but I'll probably migrate to the GPe full time down the road. BUT, official 4.4 is on its way, so it'll be really exciting to see how it'll be.
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I'm back on stock after a day on GPe. I love AOSP and the GPe ROM is amazing, but I tend to always end up back on stock again. Not sure what it is, but it's solid as a rock, and I know exactly how it works and what it does. No surprises. I feel safe using it, so I guess that's why? Xposed has also changed the way I use ROMs. No longer do I have to flash ROMs if I want a weird feature, I just install a module. I feel like I don't have to flash anything these days, except for when I want a different environment/UI.
In not that tired of Sony's UI quite yet (but I'm slowly getting there), but I'll probably migrate to the GPe full time down the road. BUT, official 4.4 is on its way, so it'll be really exciting to see how it'll be.
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Im back running stock UI as well (own rom with Dogg tweaks), and am more or less happy with it.
Cant wait for 4.4 stock (not here today yet)
I had a Nexus 7 and I ran AOKP, I had an Nexus 4 and I ran AOKP, I had a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and I ran CyanogenMod. Today I switched to Sony Xperia Z Ultra and I don't want to switch to AOSP. It never happened before, but I feel like Stock ROM is good
my galaxy tab is always on another rom, after that i had asus padfone, which had no development at all. and z ultra makes me not want to change to another rom at all. loving the stock, dunno why. I'm still on 4.2 and for me it's pretty smooth and fluid already i dont even need to upgrade.
Recently get an OTA for 4.3, but there's no way to root it in a simple way. tempting to root using jackie's way or flashing monx but im still too lazy to do it, still enjoyin my current 4.2 haha
I think sony did a good job here
I'm with you too dude. For me it's close enough to stock not to piss me off, their skin is simple and black base (better for battery), and I like some of the bloatware too.
I have deleted a lot, but that's another thing I like, I was able to delete or freeze most of what I didn't want without needing root. On touchwizz practically nothing could be deleted without root.
For me, Sony have worked it really well, bugs aside, and 290 is perfect IMHO except bluetooth.
I love cm, don't get me wrong, I just don't need it as much with Sony as I did with Samsung.
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Same here, actually i'm still on 4.2.2. Still amazed with stock rom, looks good and stays smooth and fast. I can endless opening apps, not any hick up. OOM works unnoticed, and don't need to restart device. On my old LG 3d i changed roms and kernels continously. My son his tab2 flashed a hour after purchase. My Acer A700 running CM10.1 unfortunately my daughter jumped on screen i need to order new screen/digitizer.
But i'm surpised with myself that i'm still on stock and don't want to flash. Only reason for me to flash would be working miracast with my LG 55LM750S.
I'm back on the GPe ROM I was bored yesterday, so the only thing to do when i'm bored is to install or flash something. I'm still amazed how everything is running so smooth and i have still to find a bug. I haven't found a single one. I find it funny that we went from AOSP ROMs that had their fair share of problems, to a AOSP ROM that is perfect like THAT.
I guess i'll keep using GPe for now, but i find some small things to be a little annoying. The volume is rather strange. It can be really quiet on one level, and be really loud on the next one, which makes it very annoying since i have to try to find the sweet spot. The stock ROM is much better at this. The quick toggles are also quite bad. Why do i have to press and HOLD to activate/deactivate a feature? Why can't i just tap a toggle like on CM? One tap on AOSP will open the settings for that feature, and someone at Google should be shot in the face. Well, that's about it really
I agree, been on and off Cm9-10 for years with some stints on Samsung's JB, but these ROMs rock. Only complaint is WIFI is a bit flakey. I don't even have a reason to root.
I have both a C6833 and Tablet Z.
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With my ex Galaxy S3 I went from stock to CM in like 4/6 months, and from there I just wanted to change phone like every day.
I guess I just want this to be my phone for a long time, therefore I'll wait to transform it to see if the stock rom satisfies me long enough to get to the official 4.4.2 update.
Which, I bet will be the last "quick" update.
After that I'm sure we will see 4.5, but at a super slow pace.
Anyway, I need time to install and backup everything to begin trying the GPe, and with a 6yo daughter and a 40days son I really don't have much left... XD
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fastest83 said:
With my ex Galaxy S3 I went from stock to CM in like 4/6 months, and from there I just wanted to change phone like every day.
I guess I just want this to be my phone for a long time, therefore I'll wait to transform it to see if the stock rom satisfies me long enough to get to the official 4.4.2 update.
Which, I bet will be the last "quick" update.
After that I'm sure we will see 4.5, but at a super slow pace.
Anyway, I need time to install and backup everything to begin trying the GPe, and with a 6yo daughter and a 40days son I really don't have much left... XD
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Congrats! I guess that's why we haven't really seen you around here that much lately, but you have a brand new boy in your house now so that's expected
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LordManhattan said:
Congrats! I guess that's why we haven't really seen you around here that much lately, but you have a brand new boy in your house now so that's expected
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Thanks! I try to keep up with everything but now even Tapatalk is against me (meaning the new interface is fugly as hell).
Anyway, I'm curious, does the GPe support multiple users like on the Nexus 7? It is a fantastic feature as it keeps my daughter within the fence of her few apps...
That may be a feature I'd be interested in...
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fastest83 said:
Thanks! I try to keep up with everything but now even Tapatalk is against me (meaning the new interface is fugly as hell).
Anyway, I'm curious, does the GPe support multiple users like on the Nexus 7? It is a fantastic feature as it keeps my daughter within the fence of her few apps...
That may be a feature I'd be interested in...
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Hmm, i have no idea. I think it "pops up" when you activate tablet mode. I know that CM supports it though, but since GPe build is strictly made for the ZU, Sony may have removed the feature (i can't prove it though).

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